Which male idols do you think are gay?

[annetamiau]

3 hours ago, Ssalsa said:

This is what I had thought of initially but I don't think this case can be implied. To relate, I would say being closeted in the kpop industry is like being closeted in the society. Many LGBT+ individuals from what I had seen from "acted" straight in fear of being ousted to the public and what more in the kpop scene. They cant simply blame it on fanservice everytime as there will always be a chance of slipping up when they are too indulgent with their acts. Not only that, speculations from shippers & eyes of the public will definitely progressively arise and being closeted will definitely not give that sense of security where you will not be ousted and hence, there will definitely be a change of behavior, fanservice/skinship which results in restricted movements. Not to mention the presence of s*s*engs too. Hence, let me reiterate that being closeted in the kpop scene is definitely not as seemingly easy as they look as it doesn't give a form of security where you would not be ousted to the public easily.

I think I oversimplified my thoughts when I was writing my answer. I completely agree that being closeted is always harmful in a way, even in a accepting environment (been there, done that), and for some idols it must be frustrating not being able to freely express that part of themselves. Plus, the 'what ifs' are always there, idol or not (what if something gets leaked, etc.), and idols are 'famous', so they face way more exposure than the average citizen. But I still feel that idols have more of a security blanket, so to speak, than the general population, meaning that it's more difficult for them to be perceived as gay than for, say, an office worker. I stumbled upon this video when I was trying to understand cultural differences (I'm from Spain, so it's not a matter of being touchy or showing affection, everyone is super touchy here too, especially teenagers and young adults, regardless of gender):

As a disclaimer, I know that you can't 'tell' sexual orientation by physical appearance, make up or fashion choices, that it's offensive and that there are plenty of people who do not fit the stereotypes, but the part of the video that caught my eye and the reason why I link it is at 5:25. He was talking about things that are stereotypically perceived as gay in Korea, but then he said 'idols can do everything'. While being famous has its downsides (more exposure, antis...), I really feel that idols are not judged by the same standards as the rest of the Korean population and can get away with a lot more, which in a convoluted way might give some of them a sense of protection. Because let's be real, shippers have zero credibility, and I don't know about all Korean antis, but at least the BTS ones do not try to claim they aren't straight (or not that I know of) and instead go for things like smoking, dating, physical appearance... Plus, the fact that there are fans who genuinely believe that Jo Know is straight speaks for itself.

[baekhyunee]

On 8/28/2020 at 10:13 PM, gayobersever said:

A bit random but how soon do you think an idol will come out? International idols have their countries they can escape to if everything turns to shit

idols that are not..well

or i can see an idol coming out when they're 45 and no one cares about them

or an idol that completely leaves the idol scene and opts for regular life coming out

i just do not see an active idol coming out

it is career suicide 

tbh i’ve always thought shinee’s key would come out after his military and he gets discharged in september. 

[flowflow]

I kinda agree with the notion that idols can do everything. There are only like 3 or 4 idols (jo kwon, key, daehwi) that the general korean public believes they might be actually gay. Literally everyone else has legions of fangirls ready to defend their "heterosexuality". Hundreds of idols and barely any gay rumors, almost like they are invisible even to sasaengs.

[lighterxx]

1 hour ago, flowflow said:

I kinda agree with the notion that idols can do everything. There are only like 3 or 4 idols (jo kwon, key, daehwi) that the general korean public believes they might be actually gay. Literally everyone else has legions of fangirls ready to defend their "heterosexuality". Hundreds of idols and barely any gay rumors, almost like they are invisible even to sasaengs.

Sasaengs enjoy keeping most crucial infos to themselves

Like dating? They spread. Marriage? You won't be able to find any info about that.

[blurrr]

Idk why people in this thread like labling lgbtq in some really weird logic... like I know closeted gays who are shy and inconfident and keep their head down all the time. I know closeted gays who are super extrovert and constantly do gay shit. I also know gays who are somewhere in the middle. It so much depends on the personality, so making conclusions on such criteria simply has no sense. 

And now I'm talking about lgbtq people from quite homophobic countries like Korea, since I live in such a country.

[Josaline]

the lil bow he drew, cute^^

 

[raspberry84]

8 hours ago, baekhyunee said:

tbh i’ve always thought shinee’s key would come out after his military and he gets discharged in september. 

I've really curious what will happen once he leaves the military.

For a long time I saw him as coming out but honestly, I'm not sure now.

With the songs, his note and the way he talks about Jonghyun...if Key came out, it would also be outing Jonghyun in a way because it would be hard to see their relationship as anything but romantic. Right now there is some plausible denial.

Edit: I find it curious why this is getting downvotes because I said I could see him not publicly coming out because it could indirectly out another individual who now no longer has any say.

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[Chika Chika]

On 7/22/2020 at 9:33 PM, Chika Chika said:

Stray Kids on a whole are very hard to read. Ngl. All of them are supportive and sometimes them showing support can be read in the wrong way.

Lee know is the only one who has always strongly pinged me can't exactly say he is gay, he could be Bi with a male preference. I'm too lazy to find it now but in one 'Two Kids Room' Lee Know had mentioned something like 'I like younger boys' I would actually be very surprised if he would be straight. Also the time he asked Jisung if he likes him in that way or something like that and Jisung was genuinely confused and asked him 'In which way Hyung?'

The rest are very on and off to me.

The second person who pings me is Hyunjin. He used to ping me the most but my opinion has changed since a lot of people think he is straight, that made me reconsider my decisions. There was a person on this thread mentioning how friend circles can be important to determine sexuality indirectly since they live in a very homophobic environment and for idols it can be way worse. The person mentioned that Soobin being a part of the LGBTQ+ is probably one reason why he must've gotten close to Daehwi and made me think that Hyunjin too is very close to Daehwi. Now I'm not saying anyone friends with Daehwi are compulsorily gay, maybe he is just very friendly person but to me it's really suspicious that everyone who he is close to Daehwi is mentioned time and again in this thread. Also notice Hyunjin's body language. He is super clingy but that could just be him being affectionate. So, overall i'm confused about Hyunjin.

I've seen people mention Seungmin a lot but to me he is hard to read and comes off as very quiet reserved, also he seems very passive since he does not talk a lot. To me, he is straight. If anyone thinks otherwise then please feel free to tell me why.

Jisung to me is very straight, since we don't have hard receipts except for him being shipped with Lee Know a lot. There is no hiding that Jisung is attracted to women. Also I might be reading too much into it and I don't know what their friendship dimension is in real life [off camera] but it looks like Lee Know is more invested and attached to Jisung that Jisung is wih Lee Know. Now I'm not saying Jisung is not close to Lee Know, I just think it's one of those friendships where one best friend is super social with others while the other bestfriend is not that social and always clings to that one person, but Lee Know does talk with the other members only seems very touchy with Jisung, but all the touchiness could be fan service. The reason I say this is because in an interview all the members had to pick a best friend and Lee Know picked Jisung but Jisung ended up picking someone else and Lee know thought Jisung would choose him. 

Chan is straight but at the very same time he looks like a very broad minded person who is ready to try stuff out, also makes me think that if there is a time that he is alone with a boy and the time and environment is right and the boy makes a move on him he would just go along with it. 

Changbin is confusion to me. 3Racha on a whole gives me very straight men vibes [because some of their lyrics are like--- yeah. makes it very hard for me to see them as anything but straight] but in 3Racha if there was someone who could be Bi or Gay it would definitely be Changbin. Apart from his hardcore rapper image his off stage persona is very soft in comparison.

Everyone says I.N is straight. What I do think is that we can't determine cause he has said a few things that makes me think he is really being pressurized to keep up with that youthful baby image. In their music videos not so much but if you watch their 'Finding Stray Kids' some things he says makes me feel like he really needs to protect that image and is being made to. When in a recent episode he said 'Don't take the call because my omma told me not to pick up strangers calls' it kinda made me-- ??.. So anything he says or does is either baby or neutral. I know this is a dumb explanation but something tells me he is not free to express himself. If he ends up rapping or singing anything close to what 3Racha does the fandom would go mad. I.N to me looks like he is not interested in anyone like that, like he either doesn't see gender or is very uncomfortable with almost everyone. It's weird I can't explain. Seen very few interactions of him with girls but it just makes me feel he is very aloof, like physically. Hates touchy behavior, no skinship. I'm just sharing what I saw in him, if anyone wants to say or add anything in please do.

Now FELIX, He is confusion to me. In the beginning I said that Stray Kids are extremely hard to read cause they are very supportive and that support can be read in the wrong way. Felix to me is Bi. The things that the above thread mentions are just very subtle. Him recommending songs are not a hardcore sign, it just only shows that he supports, There were people who said he recommended a TV Show 'Please like me' [That has a Gay character as a lead role] but later it turned out that it was actually the fan that recommended the show to him not the other way around. The videos of him crushing over Changbin and the kiss [sorry but] it means nothing to me. The only real signs he's shown that he is Bi is with cuffed Jeans, that even I didn't know were a thing, even though I am Bi myself but that could be taken as a major sign, also that famous time when he asked that fan "girl or boy?" when he was being asked about his ideal type (and imo, if you hear the audio the fan looked genuinely stumped) but as someone in this thread mentioned it kind of felt shippy when he literally said 'Changbin' but then again it was really brave of him to literally take the name of a member and maybe he just likes emo boys. But still it kind of felt very shippy when he said Changbin outrightly but I'll still take that as a sign.

 

On 7/23/2020 at 3:05 AM, Lollitta said:

I have seen a lot of stays on twitter calling Jeongin gay, is there a special reason for it or is it just for fun? I just wanna know cuz I don't want to overlook something.

Hyunjin is interesting. Didn't he say something like a M/V about a gay teenager gave him hope? 

Felix is either a very enthusiastic ally or LGBT himself, so basically he just confuses me as much as Doyoung from NCT lmao. The way he reacted to that fan telling him about his LGBT fans was so genuine....I love him for that.

Minho is not straight, like at all imo. I've seen some fans joking about how Minho fell for a straight guy (Jisung) cuz he is so much more invested in their friendship as you already mentioned. I genuinely hope that's not the case cuz falling for straight people sucks (speaking from experience)

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And since I'm talking about Minsung....have y'all seen this? It made me so sad cuz it made me realize once again how homophobic Korea is (and a lot of other places in this world are.)

 

The LGBT members in Nct are Taeyong, Yuta, Ten, Hendery, Jeno and maaaaaaybe Chenle, Jaehyun and Doyoung in my opinion.

Can anybody show me some 'receipts' of Jungwoo? Some receipts outside of fanservice? I really wanna know why there are so many people that are sure he is gay. I'm genuinely curious.

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Sorry if there are any grammar mistakes and sorry if I worded things weirdly. My first language is not english and it's pretty late in my country rn.

 

 

On 8/11/2020 at 8:09 PM, Melany said:

i think it's one sided from minho side, yeah honestly those videos " X member expose X ship" i see a load of them, "Jhope exposing Rosekook", "Jhope exposing tzukook" which looks suspicious then "Jhope exposing Jikook" which also looks suspicious. There is always one members who  is used for people's ship. 

I don't trust them so much. it's literally just a members smiling as always, not something to looks at. But minho and hyunjin are still hella gay.

I think Jisung is straight and like minho a lot as a hyung. 

 

On 8/11/2020 at 9:23 PM, citroneuse said:

Honestly I'd disregard any "main ships" in groups a majority of the time, especially in a group like Stray Kids where they've shown over and over again that they keep up with their fandom pretty closely. These two and Changbin/Felix were super pushed by the company and the members for a while so you're gonna be able to find a bunch of "sus" moments but that's true for every manufactured ship. 

When it comes to all the members of Stray Kids themselves, I wouldn't be surprised if any mix of Minho, Hyunjin, or Jisung were gay/bi. I wouldn't necessarily be surprised by any of them but those three really give me vibes.  

 

On 8/4/2020 at 12:34 PM, zakizo said:

As a gay person, Hyunjin from Stray Kids is super gay imo. When I first started getting to know Stray Kids he never pinged me but the more I watch him interact with other people and just how he acts and the things he says it feels like it becomes more obvious. 

Things like him accidentally saying "boyfriend" when singing a line that was supposed to be "girlfriend" even though he's basically fluent in English and has repeatedly talked about how this is one of his favorite songs is interesting. 

Also him recommending Logic's song 1-800 where the music video is about a gay boy struggling with his sexuality and Hyunjin said he cried while watching the music video and how it "gives hope".

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There's also smaller things like a vlive with him and another member (Changbin) where Hyunjin talks about really admiring someone in a drama he's watching and Changbin mentions something about the actress and Hyunjin just goes "ah no, I mean the actor".

In the same vlive he also talked for a long time about a boy he knew in his trainee days who was obsessed with him there's a weird amount of emphasis on the person being a boy.

There's also another vlive where one of the members (Chan) begins talking about an actress (Jessica Alba) really excitedly and Hyunjin looks visibly uncomfortable and immediately changes the subject.

This is all besides his very obvious crush on GOT7's Jinyoung who he really likes and has called a "god" before on a few occasions. Hyunjin always seems on edge around Jinyoung in a way that goes beyond a boy getting to meet his idol.

Also not to sound any sort of way but he and Daehwi have been best friends since their trainee days and usually birds of a feather flock together if yknow what I mean.

(This is also super minor and stereotypical, but he's said before how his favorite movies are things like The Notebook and The Devil Wears Prada which is interesting. He also constantly acts in a rather super effeminate way, again not to sound bad I'm also gay).

 

12 hours ago, kikiw said:

From opinions that I have read here it seems most people think that gay/bi members in Stray Kids are Lee Know, Felix, Hyunjin, and Changbin. Is there any receipt or moment that makes you think Changbin is gay/bi? Or is it because his vibes? I'm new to Stray Kids

These are some opinions what I and a few others had about Stray Kids.

[shineestan]

I really don't think key is coming out anytime soon and i respect that bc like it could still end his career 

[Open Mind]

pretty sure wonho is openly pansexual, well at least as open as an idol can be. he has said enough things, given enough hints to suggest that

actually a lot of my biases give me not straight vibes but i don't want to speculate with their sexuality since they don't talk about it unlike mister onehoe here

[3/4illustrator]

On 8/28/2020 at 9:38 PM, gayobersever said:

this thread is self explanatory

i think jn is queer and both rn and jm are straight

literally look the way jn interacts with them is SO obvious he literally looks in love???????

and no i do not ship them before you neg me 

On 8/29/2020 at 12:17 AM, poeticbeauty said:

My friend likes nomin but mostly because they look adorable together but she thinks JM is straight, just comfotable being touchy with his members (pretty similar to what people have said in this thread). With JN, his constant heart eyes at the members makes it looks like he's soooo in love with them and he just loves holding hand, I guess? I saw a lot of videos where he just "accidentally" held hands with the others. 

Edit: Woa, I just watched the videos from the thread and JN is obvious  (just thought it'd be videos of over-analyzing but it wasn't).

Personally I think the twitter thread is kinda shippy and over-analyzing on noren (this could be one of the reasons you got negged), although JN remains highly sus  However the clips are more focused on 2018-19 moments, I wonder if JN was this touchy and into hand holding in earlier days when they were promoting as with MK and HC? Also is JN touchy or having heart eyes with CL and JS, or mostly RJ and JM only?

I asked this because JN reminded me of my younger self - I was like 19/20, started questioning my interest in girls (I'm cis-female and a late bloomer) and was really into one of my female friends, so I constantly wanted to interact/hug/flirt with her "as a friend" because I didn't want to ruin the friendship. But then guys tend to recognize their sexuality at a younger age so nevermind and I'm just projecting myself onto JN lol

 

On 8/29/2020 at 9:34 AM, Lollitta said:

And now my opinion on the whole norenmin discourse:
I still think Jaemin and Renjun are straight (with Renjun being an ally) and Jeno is the only sus one. I think neither nomin nor noren is real in a romantic way.

Ditto. But do you think it's a one-sided crush from JN, or he's doing it for fanservice?

 

Edited August 31, 2020 by 3/4illustrator

[Exo-l since 2015]

I read somewhere where a lot of armies believe that Suga was in a relationship 2016-2017. I believe that it was zhoumi because tbh to me it’s pretty telling when two guys are like “the best of friends” and then all of a sudden don’t hang out anymore ex: taehyung and bogum

[gayobersever]

6 hours ago, 3/4illustrator said:

Personally I think the twitter thread is kinda shippy and over-analyzing on noren (this could be one of the reasons you got negged), although JN remains highly sus  However the clips are more focused on 2018-19 moments, I wonder if JN was this touchy and into hand holding in earlier days when they were promoting as with MK and HC? Also is JN touchy or having heart eyes with CL and JS, or mostly RJ and JM only?

 

People neg the truth anyways I post twitter threads made by a shipper because they have all the sus moments on their account

It makes it easier for me to prove a point 

Yes during mfal promotions he would act like this to both 

he is clingy to cl and js as well but it is WAY different he does not give them heart eyes

 

Ditto. But do you think it's a one-sided crush from JN, or he's doing it for fanservice?

one sided crush for both imo

everytime he gets clingy renjun looks like he does not like or maybe he is tsundere lol

sometimes when jn is being touchy rn looks tense so maybe he knows he has a crush 

but then again rn looks like this to other members when they get too touchy (ex jaemin)

noren is not real okay

and for jaemin i think it one sided too

i do not think jn is doing fanservice or he is being an extremely good actor

sure you can say that about nomin as sm makes them do a lot public work together but i still think they are genuine friendship

he is clingy to jaemin but also the same to renjun and the noren ship is not pushed by sm

but that is all i want to say on noren and nomin for now

 

 

 

 

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i just want to say an lgbtq person can get away a lot in kpop because wont really be questioning their actions as its a part of their culture

 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2020 by gayobersever
none of your business

[gayobersever]

what your guys opinion on monsta x minhyuk 

 

[gayobersever]

Opinion on daewhi from ab6ix/wanna one

 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2020 by gayobersever
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[gayobersever]

do you guys think zico is possibly gay/bi ?

outing taeil and trying to humiliate was so shitty

 

[Koko22]

1 hour ago, gayobersever said:

do you guys think zico is possibly gay/bi ?

outing taeil and trying to humiliate was so shitty

 

Whattt????

[Kpop_fan178]

In the recent time this thread became like one of those messy kpop forums from Allkpop.

It's like 5% actual interesting information or talk and 95% shit that has been discussed 1000 times, trolls, shippers, just basically useless comments.

[Thatoneuser]

18 minutes ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

In the recent time this thread became like one of those messy kpop forums from Allkpop.

It's like 5% actual interesting information or talk and 95% shit that has been discussed 1000 times, trolls, shippers, just basically useless comments.

EXACTLY, like I think this person is gay, or they're too young to analyze even though they're 20 lmao, or I think Jaemin x Jeno is a thing. etc. 

[kikiw]

On 8/31/2020 at 12:57 AM, Chika Chika said:

These are some opinions what I and a few others had about Stray Kids.

Oh thank you so much!

[TerBik]

6 hours ago, gayobersever said:

what your guys opinion on monsta x minhyuk 

 

gay or at least bi...

wonho as well

 

[TerBik]

still on the minhyuk subject:

this video, specially after the 15:26 mark is  just VERY VERY SUS TO ME: https://www.vlive.tv/video/85201

The way the members react, the way wonho overreacts, the way changkyun asks "with a blanket?" and THE LOOK HE GIVES SHOWNU and smiles after is so SO telling. he goes as far as saying he actually has an ideal type for men, that he likes them big, i....i can't with him, I JUST CAN'T!!!!!!!

there's actually so many minhyuk receipts is a wonder how he isn't frequently mentioned here...

 

 

[zhili]

Speaking of Minhyuk and Wonho, here is an interesting moment at 4:41 in this 2015 clip:

 

[Hikari005]

7 hours ago, Abiskkum said:

still on the minhyuk subject:

this video, specially after the 15:26 mark is  just VERY VERY SUS TO ME: https://www.vlive.tv/video/85201

The way the members react, the way wonho overreacts, the way changkyun asks "with a blanket?" and THE LOOK HE GIVES SHOWNU and smiles after is so SO telling. he goes as far as saying he actually has an ideal type for men, that he likes them big, i....i can't with him, I JUST CAN'T!!!!!!!

there's actually so many minhyuk receipts is a wonder how he isn't frequently mentioned here...

 

 

after that jooheon makes shownus heart flutter! jooheons reaction

[Lollitta]

Hongjoong from Ateez being openly supportive of his LGBT fans.
 

 

Edited September 1, 2020 by Lollitta