Which male idols do you think are gay?

[plutto]

Keep in mind these are concert clothes, so there is a chance he didn't have a choice on this outfit (and it is not a strong evidence to anything), but still I thought it would be nice to post about it here:

 

[zagala]

4 minutes ago, Josaline said:

lmao If you can't answer the questions, why do you send unfounded claims here and then get angry when we ask questions?

you didn't ask to begin with, as isaid, you came discrediting what i was saying...

 i will answer to people who asked me nicely, thanks

[Josaline]

3 minutes ago, zagala said:

you didn't ask to begin with, as isaid, you came discrediting what i was saying...

 i will answer to people who asked me nicely, thanks

[Josaline]

Anyway...

 

[raspberry84]

30 minutes ago, zagala said:

well, i am free to post it here if i want, the same that i am free to send a pm to whoever asks about it if i want.

i am quoting messages from other users, it not like i am posting statements one by one...

If you wouldn't mind, send it to me as well.

With that said, if it was an officially released video I don't really understand why you feel uncomfortable posting it here

[zagala]

7 minutes ago, raspberry84 said:

If you wouldn't mind, send it to me as well.

With that said, if it was an officially released video I don't really understand why you feel uncomfortable posting it here

user like the one above who is probably a Taekook shipper for what i have read, are the reason for what i dont want to post things here.

 i dont care if you ship taekook, jikook, or vmin, not my business, if you ask nicely i dont have a problem sharing with you things even if you a shipper from another pair and,¡ whether if you agree with my point of view or not, but shippers who come to me rudely, discrediting what i am saying only because its not convenient for their narrative, sorry but i dont have patience to deal with them... so said this, yes, i will send to you the video because you were respectful

[raspberry84]

1 minute ago, zagala said:

user like the one above who is probably a Taekook shipper for what i have read, are the reason for what i dont want to post things here.

 i dont care if you ship taekook, jikook, or vmin, not my business, if you ask nicely i dont have a problem sharing with you things even if you a shipper from another pair and,¡ whether if you agree with my point of view or not, but shippers who come to me rudely, discrediting what i am saying only because its not convenient for their narrative, sorry but i dont have patience to deal with them... so said this, yes, i will send to you the video because you were respectful

It just isn't the norm on how this thread operates. You talked about the video and what happened in detail, obviously people are going to be interested in seeing it. By refusing to post it here and keeping it in DMs just ends any conversation about it. There are also a number of people who read this thread but rarely comment. This is preventing them from seeing something unless they to request it.

If everyone operated this way then nothing would be posted in this thread and it would mostly turn into posts of people asking for videos to be sent to them.

If it's a public video available for everyone to watch and officially released, there is zero reason it shouldn't be posted here. Not everyone is going to agree. That is ok. Since the vast majority of idols discussed here aren't out nothing is concrete and differing opinions will always exist.

[zagala]

10 minutes ago, raspberry84 said:

It just isn't the norm on how this thread operates. You talked about the video and what happened in detail, obviously people are going to be interested in seeing it. By refusing to post it here and keeping it in DMs just ends any conversation about it. There are also a number of people who read this thread but rarely comment. This is preventing them from seeing something unless they to request it.

If everyone operated this way then nothing would be posted in this thread and it would mostly turn into posts of people asking for videos to be sent to them.

If it's a public video available for everyone to watch and officially released, there is zero reason it shouldn't be posted here. Not everyone is going to agree. That is ok. Since the vast majority of idols discussed here aren't out nothing is concrete and differing opinions will always exist.

I just described a moment between them, I am not obligated to post any video, first because i could have that video or not...i have read many times this thread and i know how it operates, i have read many rumours about idols here without any type of proof, what i am stating are not rumours, are things that you can confirm by yourself and form an opinion about it.

there are many ways to ask for a video, some are nice, some are not

[Josaline]

I really don't think it has anything to do with videos, he /she doesn't want to post videos here because I think user knows that people going to refute their unfounded claims. User tries to avoid this discussion by tagging other users as shipper. That's it.
 

[raspberry84]

9 minutes ago, zagala said:

I just described a moment between them, I am not obligated to post any video, first because i could have that video or not...i have read many times this thread and i know how it operates, i have read many rumours about idols here without any type of proof, what i am stating are not rumours, are things that you can confirm by yourself and form an opinion about it.

there are many ways to ask for a video, some are nice, some are not

The video you sent me was an official vlive that is still posted on youtube and vlive. There isn't a reason to withhold it except for the fact that you don't want people to disagree with you.

And no, you are not obligated to share or post videos but saying you'll DM it some members and not others isn't the best way to handle the situation.

With that said, if anyone is interested this it they vlive they is talking about:

(Full vlive is here)

I personally didn't see anything super suspect in any of their interactions in this clip myself. It did, however, remind me that Yoongi kept trying to hold hands in this vlive.

Edited October 26, 2019 by raspberry84

[zagala]

2 minutes ago, raspberry84 said:

The video you sent me was an official vlive that is still posted on youtube and vlive. There isn't a reason to withhold it except for the fact that you don't want people to disagree with you.

And no, you are not obligated to share or post videos but saying you'll DM it some members and not others isn't the best way to handle the situation.

With that said, if anyone is interested this it they vlive she is talking about:

 

I personally didn't see anything super suspect in any of their interactions in this clip myself. It did, however, remind me that Yoongi kept trying to hold hands in this vlive.

i dont have to handle anything, i am free to send whoever i want what i have, what is ugly is that you post a video that i send you via pm just to discredit whatever you want to discredit...

i dont care if you disagree or not, i could have expected that knowing that you are another Taekook shipper, however, i send you the video... obviously, i was wrong

[raspberry84]

Just now, zagala said:

i dont have to handle anything, i am free to send whoever i want what i have, what is ugly is that you post a video that i send you via pm just to discredit whatever you want to discredit...

i dont care if you disagree or not, i could have expected that knowing that you are another Taekook shipper, however, i send you the video... obviously, i was wrong

This will be my last response but please do not assume anyone who disagrees with your opinion is only doing so because they are a "shipper" like you suggested here. I enjoyed Taekook as a ship a few years back (hence my badge) but I never believed anything was actually going on with them.

Anyone who has been around this thread long enough knows the only speculation I have within BTS is that I believe Yoongi and Tae both, respectively, had feelings for Hobi at different points in time and that I find Tae and Yoongi to have suspicious interactions (primarily on Yoongi's side). I also understand those are my opinions, lots of people aren't going to agree and that it's all speculation at the end of the day.

I also did nothing wrong by posting a video that was discussed in this thread so other users would have context for the discussion. That video is a public youtube video, one that has actually been watched and discussed in here before. You made the choice not to share it, that doesn't mean other's can't make a different choice than you.

[Melany]

this thread is slowly turning a bts ships fight (taegi, taekook, now vmin)

I wonder what's next, can we all just agree they are close that it. All close

Edited October 26, 2019 by Melany

[zagala]

2 minutes ago, raspberry84 said:

This will be my last response but please do not assume anyone who disagrees with your opinion is only doing so because they are a "shipper" like you suggested here. I enjoyed Taekook as a ship a few years back (hence my badge) but I never believed anything was actually going on with them.

Anyone who has been around this thread long enough knows the only speculation I have within BTS is that I believe Yoongi and Tae both, respectively, had feelings for Hobi at different points in time and that I find Tae and Yoongi to have suspicious interactions (primarily on Yoongi's side). I also understand those are my opinions, lots of people aren't going to agree and that it's all speculation at the end of the day.

I also did nothing wrong by posting a video that was discussed in this thread so other users would have context for the discussion. That video is a public youtube video, one that has actually been watched and discussed in here before. You made the choice not to share it, that doesn't mean other's can't make a different choice than you.

sure...

you dont see anything wrong with posting a video which was searched for  another user and which was sent to you via pm , video that i did not want to post here and that i made clear that.. but you see everything wrong if i dont post that video which i searched or it.... very coherent.

[Melany]

actually im kind of interested in analysing yoongi sexuality, i would like to know your opinion on him. I personaly think he is bisexual

On a side not vmin seem liked (in the past) friends with bennefits, i don't think there is feelings, i wouldn't be surprised yoongi, tae and jimin (the non straight line, i think they are all bisexuals) experienced with each other. But with no romance in between

I noticed many people think tae is fully gay, but i think he is bi, 

 

in this video, it's seem like he has a crush on the mc, as he try to flirt, and seem embarassed around her.

I thought he was gay too, but someone posted it here long time ago.

about yoongi he seemed attracted to this girl when she came.

 

Edited October 26, 2019 by Melany

[raspberry84]

6 minutes ago, Melany said:

actually im kind of interested in analysing yoongi sexuality, i would like to know your opinion on him. I personaly think he is bisexual

On a side not vmin seem liked (in the past) friends with bennefits, i don't think there is feelings, i wouldn't be surprised yoongi, tae and jimin (the non straight line, i think they are all bisexuals) experienced with each other. But with no romance in between

Yoongi is interesting when we take lyrics into consideration.

His verse in Spring Day was written about another guy and those lyrics can definitely be read as romantic. And I know we've talked about how Seesaw seems to be directed towards another male (although not explicitly). I really can't wait til we get a new solo or mix tape from him.

Honestly I lean towards gay at this point for Tae and Yoongi and bi for Jimin. 

Jungkook also strikes me as a baby gay and sometimes I wonder if that long tweet that Yoongi sent to Taehyung and Jungkook was in reference to that (although that is PURE speculation)

Edited October 26, 2019 by raspberry84

[Melany]

1 minute ago, raspberry84 said:

Yoongi is interesting when we take lyrics into consideration.

His verse in Spring Day was written about another guy and those lyrics can definitely be read as romantic. And I know we've talked about how Seesaw seems to be directed towards another male (although not explicitly). I really can't wait til we get a new solo or mix tape from him.

yeah and when he talked about his ideal male type, talking how he like manly guys...

[nochu]

Might be nothing, but Jungkook's tattoo seems to say "Rather be dead than cool" (which is also his motto) and it is a line from Nirvana's song 'Stay Away', a song that ends up with 'God is gay' 

Spoiler

 

[raspberry84]

Also I got distracted and never posted my thought's on Key's lyrics that I found suspect.

Putting them behind a cut because [Trigger Warning] they do discuss Jonghyun's death and speculation on their relationship prior to that. I get that speculation about their relationship is still really, really touchy and not everyone is comfortable discussing it so please keep responses under spoiler cuts.

Spoiler

I think I Will Fight is clearly about Jonghyun and the reference to the "red line" connecting them stands out to me.

He also seems to reference Jonghun as being a star, just like in the SHINee You & I song he wrote. Both songs also reference holding hands or his touch.

I really do feel like the two where in a relationship at the time of Jonghyun's death and Key seems to have alluded to this as much as possible without actually confirming it.

 

[irlpadam]

36 minutes ago, Melany said:

this thread is slowly turning a bts ships fight (taegi, taekook, now vmin)

I wonder what's next, can we all just agree they are close that it. All close

it always ends up like this. this isn’t a shippers thread

[singularstigma]

SuperM seems like a collection of idols that aren’t straight tbh. Only Lucas and Mark seem straight to me but maybe that’s just because I’m not as familiar with them. That said, Mark is making me go hmmmm more and more. Ten, Taemin, Taeyong, Baekhyun and Kai on the other hand I would be fairly certain are gay or bi.

[ribbonribbon]

44 minutes ago, singularstigma said:

SuperM seems like a collection of idols that aren’t straight tbh. Only Lucas and Mark seem straight to me but maybe that’s just because I’m not as familiar with them. That said, Mark is making me go hmmmm more and more. Ten, Taemin, Taeyong, Baekhyun and Kai on the other hand I would be fairly certain are gay or bi.

I second this. Admittedly, I am only following Taemin, and to some extent, Kai and Baek. But the whole team just seem to be into both men and women to me. I like their new songs so I start to look loser, and it was true their are dubious evidences here and there for each. It cannot be fan service from original group, because the new group does not any full ships (missing Chanyeol, Johnny, Jaehyun e.t.c).

Then again, it was a team full of charming dancers, and probably a bit stereotype, but many dance-line idols I come across seem to have this non-straight vibe. Not necessary gay/bi, but they seem to have that carefree attitude towards same sex - it was like "If I like you I like you".

[Melany]

8 hours ago, skelten said:

it always ends up like this. this isn’t a shippers thread

damn, they are so triggered with the downvotes, im done with them.

[Thatoneuser]

7 hours ago, singularstigma said:

SuperM seems like a collection of idols that aren’t straight tbh. Only Lucas and Mark seem straight to me but maybe that’s just because I’m not as familiar with them. That said, Mark is making me go hmmmm more and more. Ten, Taemin, Taeyong, Baekhyun and Kai on the other hand I would be fairly certain are gay or bi.

Yeah no one in Superm is straight. Convince me otherwise.

[Bushi]

12 hours ago, Melany said:

actually im kind of interested in analysing yoongi sexuality, i would like to know your opinion on him. I personaly think he is bisexual

On a side not vmin seem liked (in the past) friends with bennefits, i don't think there is feelings, i wouldn't be surprised yoongi, tae and jimin (the non straight line, i think they are all bisexuals) experienced with each other. But with no romance in between

I noticed many people think tae is fully gay, but i think he is bi, 

 

in this video, it's seem like he has a crush on the mc, as he try to flirt, and seem embarassed around her.

I thought he was gay too, but someone posted it here long time ago.

about yoongi he seemed attracted to this girl when she came.

 

 

Tbh Yoongi could have been just registering surprise and amusement at an adult (or very adult-looking) female appearing, when they were probably expecting someone much younger (as the male host looks so amazingly young himself). I was surprised when I saw her pop up. She was also dressed as if she was going for a night out and flicking her hair about. That's not to say he can't appreciate her, she's a very pretty girl. But we have cultural/behavioural differences at play here and, predictably, it is their job to show interest in their fans. I can't read too much into fan interactions. And that goes for female and male fan interactions (I hold no bias).  

As regards Tae, again, not invalid, but I have to remember it's part of being an idol to get all shy/flirty with female hosts, esp when you're the flowerboy of the group. Or you were  - to start with. That's the MO when you're in a boyband, or until you establish yourself to a point where you don't need to rely on it anymore. We can all see that times have changed for BTS. For the past 2 years they've talked way more about their music, maturing, gender neutral love (to and for all) and the topics that interest them. 

I'm not saying there's no straight guys in BTS and only they truly know themselves as individuals. We can only speculate from our limited viewpoint, of course. But I'll never think official yesteryear footage and fan interactions are a wholly reliable barometer of who people are, esp. in the present. 

Edited October 27, 2019 by Bushi