Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Aisling]

 

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On Topic: Taehyung looked like he was trying hard to hold tears or something in the end of the performance...

 

Bless you 

 

Also, on a related note, I just want to remind everyone that this was their reaction to Heize kissing Bolbbalgan4:

 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Aisling

[Taecoholic]

In case anyone is interested in BTS's full reaction to Halsey's very gay performance:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzBNDTz7lVk

 

Tae's reaction at the end was interesting.

 

Edit: If anyone can tell me what I need to do to embed a youtube video these days, I'll give you my firstborn.

 

This BTS reaction felt like Game of Thrones episode 3, the long night lol I can’t see anything but jimin’s hair.

[ga_shina]

Bless you 

 

Also, on a related note, I just want to remind everyone that this was their reaction to Heize kissing Bolbbalgan4:

 

 

We stan supportive kings. 

 

This was me watching Halsey's performance tbh.

 

 

 

I really need BTS to meet Troye Sivan now 

Edited May 3, 2019 by ga_shina

[Bushi]

I don't think calling their English "very beginners level" is underestimating them at all. Other than Namjoon, none of them can respond to a question in English with more than a couple of words (unless they have an answer prepared), and they need almost every question translated. Yoongi appears to understand more than the rest, though.

 

That being said, they can definitely recognise a lot of words so I expect they all picked up on "LGTBQ".

 

 

Sometimes I think Jin knows more than he gets to show too? 

 

Remember the dolphin debate and his seemingly random conversation with the skipper. His sentence structure and then understanding of the answer in English was spot on (the hand sign maybe assisted but I don't think it was key to his understanding). 

 

https://twitter.com/jiminstuffs_/status/1011010913816711168?lang=en

 

Bonus: Jin blowing a kiss.

 

Edit: Jungkook's game is strong these days. Even if memorised, he has natural and confident flow when he gets going. I'm really interested to see where he goes with this.

 

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Edit: Interesting take on Korean LGBT from a non-Korean who went to live there, written some four years ago. Would love to see more Korean experiences too so if anyone finds anything on YouTube/elsewhere please feel free to share. 

 

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"Another person told me that one day she’d find a gay man to marry, they’d have kids and please their families while continuing to have same sex romances on the side." 

 

I know there's a Korean here who always comes across as so furious at this thread, society, everything. Then when he later admitted he was basically doing the above I could understand. We all know it's horrible living in the closet and having to lie. Many have been in that situation but Korea's especially tough, and sort of caught between different worlds? I just wish he'd let people support him (had they known) rather than all the antagonising that went down. We're all still family.

 

 

Edit: Adorable YouTuber Mintheworld, makeup genius and friend of Cheolsoo and Jangho, has just posted again after a break. And yes, there's some Troye!  <33.

 

 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Bushi

[burntgucci]

I'm just curious, but what do u think of the kinda homophobic/close minded stuff he's said in the past? I think it was talked about in the thread before (stuff he's said) so idk what to think when he says sus stuff like this

Well...that makes both of us sis   

Bobby is definitely an interesting guy. I think we just have to wait and see how he acts in the future, because the sus things he's been saying recently contrast sharply with all of the mildly homophobic things he's said in the past. Maybe he's going through the process of discovering his own sexuality or maybe he's just become more accepting and open-minded lately, who knows. I think maybe he's started to mature and grow as a person, like GOT7's Jaebum.

 

As for the video - I don't want it to seem like I'm defending them or #OppaDidn'tMeanIt - it was uncomfortable and upsetting to watch, but personally I am not...very angry at Hanbin (the guy who did the prank). Was it stupid to do it while being filmed and make it look like you're mocking the struggles of LGBT people? Absolutely. But I have always believed Hanbin is bisexual and that has never wavered - and in fact I think he was using it as an excuse to test the waters of coming out, to see what his mother would say. It's not uncommon, I have a few gay friends who have done it so that if it all went south they could be like "haha just kidding!" Again, it was totally stupid and tasteless for him to do this while being filmed for a show that your fans will watch, but whatever (of course if I learnt that Hanbin was straight I would drop him like a hot potato lmao). To be honest, my main problem with the video was how the other members reacted (namely Bobby, Donghyuk, Yunhyeong, and Chanwoo), like it was so hilarious and outlandish that Hanbin could like men. It also didn't help that the production team added a comment saying that the news "would be unstable for his mother". From what I remember, Junhoe and Jinhwan, two members who I believe to be gay and bi, didn't react like the other members did and Jinhwan in particular seemed uncomfortable with what was going on. As I've said before, the video pretty much made me an akgae of the gay line 

 

Again, don't want it to seem like I'm defending them, just wanted to offer my own insight.

[Bushi]

Well...that makes both of us sis   

Bobby is definitely an interesting guy. I think we just have to wait and see how he acts in the future, because the sus things he's been saying recently contrast sharply with all of the mildly homophobic things he's said in the past. Maybe he's going through the process of discovering his own sexuality or maybe he's just become more accepting and open-minded lately, who knows. I think maybe he's started to mature and grow as a person, like GOT7's Jaebum.

 

 

Interesting. Do you think it's also possible that they've seen the way other groups are more considerate and less mocking towards LGBT+ and their team thought, well, if we want to chase wider audiences and/or stay controversy-free (as best we can) we might have to reign this sorta shit in? And say like, Bobby has felt obliged, or been told, to smooth it over by presenting himself as more open minded and potentially bi? Until the mess dies down? 

 

I mean he might be genuine in what he's expressing. These might have been soul-purging moments. And you put forward a great argument for it being a testing of waters for members anyway, cushioned within the safety of TV/viewable mockery at LGBT for laughs (and executed in a ham-fisted way). But these industries are also clever, and ruthless. Along the road to greatness even the mighty BTS stopped with the young buck behaviour and softened their edges after various gaffes and outcries. So is it possible that Bobby and Co's team had a meeting and decided to change tack to keep up with today's eagle-eyed audiences. Who are not necessarily going to let these things be forgotten so easily without some accountability? 

 

Maybe there's no single easy answer. But like others here I found Bobby's flip-flop a bit sus, although obviously he was still putting his neck on the line by effectively insinuating he's not straight within a conservative environment. But I just can't escape the feeling that because K-pop is suddenly such mega money and has never had it so good, I don't entirely trust that everything these groups and artists do is wholly organic - without basic survival tactics/money/market share being involved.

 

Separating the big business angle from the heartfelt sentiment is sometimes a grey area. As with probably most people, I'd rather artists were honest and say they hated LGBT+ and I can move on, rather than false overtures, pathetic skinship and pretend support. Like you say, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out with Bobby. 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Bushi

[cheap thriâ„“â„“s]

Interesting. Do you think it's also possible that they've seen the way other groups are more considerate and less mocking towards LGBT+ and their team thought, well, if we want to chase wider audiences and/or stay controversy-free (as best we can) we might have to reign this sorta shit in? And say like, Bobby has felt obliged, or been told, to smooth it over by presenting himself as more open minded and potentially bi? Until the mess dies down?

 

I mean he might be genuine in what he's expressing. These might have been soul-purging moments. And you put forward a great argument for it being a testing of waters for members anyway, cushioned within the safety of TV/viewable mockery at LGBT for laughs (and executed in a ham-fisted way). But these industries are also clever, and ruthless. Along the road to greatness even the mighty BTS stopped with the young buck behaviour and softened their edges after various gaffes and outcries. So is it possible that Bobby and Co's team had a meeting and decided to change tack to keep up with today's eagle-eyed audiences. Who are not necessarily going to let these things be forgotten so easily without some accountability?

 

Maybe there's no single easy answer. But like others here I found Bobby's flip-flop a bit sus, although obviously he was still putting his neck on the line by effectively insinuating he's not straight within a conservative environment. But I just can't escape the feeling that because K-pop is suddenly such mega money and has never had it so good, I don't entirely trust that everything these groups and artists do is wholly organic - without basic survival tactics/money/market share being involved.

 

Separating the big business angle from the heartfelt sentiment is sometimes a grey area. As with probably most people, I'd rather artists were honest and say they hated LGBT+ and I can move on, rather than false overtures, pathetic skinship and pretend support. Like you say, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out with Bobby.

wait.....pause, do you really believe yg entertainment would cater to the gays and make someone act "bi" or whatever?? Yg? The same company who made nam taehyun kiss a girl and have some bed scene with her while the song was about a guy???? (Check the lyrics for I'm young by nam taehyun and then check the mv LOL.

Also I second what burntgucci said, that video made me felt more upset but I'm not really mad at hanbin who was the one who did the prank because to me it looked like he was testing the waters ( hes really sus on his own and I personally think hes bi) , I was more upset at the other members' reactions, junhoe and jinhwan who I think are gay and bi didn't have those weird reactions, they actually looked uncomfortable with the whole thing, this isnt an #OPPAdidntmeanit moment, you're allowed to feel uncomfortable at the prank as many people were.

 

Now back to the point yg has never cared enough to cater to the gays, never have, never will, the things you get are probably genuine and coming from the members lol

[Bushi]

wait.....pause, do you really believe yg entertainment would cater to the gays and make someone act "bi" or whatever?? Yg? The same company who made nam taehyun kiss a girl and have some bed scene with her while the song was about a guy???? (Check the lyrics for I'm young by nam taehyun and then check the mv LOL.

Also I second what burntgucci said, that video made me felt more upset but I'm not really mad at hanbin who was the one who did the prank because to me it looked like he was testing the waters ( hes really sus on his own and I personally think hes bi) , I was more upset at the other members' reactions, junhoe and jinhwan who I think are gay and bi didn't have those weird reactions, they actually looked uncomfortable with the whole thing, this isnt an #OPPAdidntmeanit moment, you're allowed to feel uncomfortable at the prank as many people were.

 

Now back to the point yg has never cared enough to cater to the gays, never have, never will, the things you get are probably genuine and coming from the members lol

 

I think you misunderstand me when you say 'catering to the gays'. I didn't say that implicitly. I said could companies be taking stock of the fact that today's (I guess mostly large liberal) audiences are tuning in more now than ever, with K-pop taking off globally. 

 

I'm painfully aware that most companies don't give a rat's about gays. But I think they are aware of the need to be marketable towards global audiences, many with lower tolerance thresholds against certain things than perhaps Korean audiences have. On the other hand I don't rule out that Bobby's sentiments were genuine (as I said above). It's just hard for me to know for sure. I'm fully prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's no skin off my nose.

 

I'm just pondering an alternative to why he would do an about face. 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Bushi

[cheap thriâ„“â„“s]

I think you misunderstand me when you say 'catering to the gays'. I didn't say that implicitly. I said could companies be taking stock of the fact that today's (I guess mostly large liberal) audiences are tuning in more now than ever, with K-pop taking off globally.

 

I'm painfully aware that most companies don't give a rat's about gays. But I think they are aware of the need to be marketable towards global audiences, many with lower tolerance thresholds against certain things than perhaps Korean audiences have. On the other hand I don't rule out that Bobby's sentiments were genuine (as I said above). It's just hard for me to know for sure. I'm fully prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's no skin off my nose.

 

I'm just pondering an alternative to why he would do an about face.

Well iKON arent pushed in the western market ~~or korean~ (yg doesnt even let them tour in america) so why would yg make an iKON member say something that would just be accepted in more liberal societies? Most of their fans are in Asia therefore yg doesnt need to do that with them, Bobby was raised in America so maybe his feelings about the topic were influenced by the environment he was raised in.

[Bushi]

It doesn't mean that YG isn't thinking of aiming them further afield. And as we know tweets and TV appearances can come back to haunt. 

[littlebee]

With the way yg is he doesn’t care enough to do a whole meeting. I get where you coming from but, I genuinely think Bobby has grown up a bit. He seems more open minded. With how conservative Korea is I don’t think a idol saying stuff catered to the lgbt+ community will sit well with them. Boys from the new produce who said they support lgbt+ got knetz to say I guess I’m not voting for them. That’s how easily it can backlash just showing support. I’m not saying that Bobby has outright said “I support gays†but, the things he says is on a line where people could attack him. Straights are delusional though... With the whole fake coming out video it does upset me that they found it amusing.

[Bushi]

Yeah, I mean I'm totally fine with that too. It'd be a better reflection on Bobby if the change was down to him maturing and not his company. I'm just naturally a bit suspicious of many of these agencies and their strategies. Does anyone know if Bobby holds a dual passport btw? Is he obliged to undertake enlistment in Korea?

 

I don't know whether this as been posted but couldn't see it in the last few pages at least. But yep, we have a new CDAN/Ent Lawyer blind and it's obviously about...well, who else. Rather predictably the blind sites always roll out a K-pop kings blind at award time. Take with a huge grain of salt because of the website and its penchant for unverified fiction but have at it, gays.

 

Blind Item #10 - BBMA

Apparently this former A- list singer who is initialed didn't know members of that foreign born A+ list group are gay. She started repeating it over and over as she spoke to one of them and kept getting louder about it. Was just so embarrassing for all involved.

 

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search/label/blind%20item?updated-max=2019-05-02T11:45:00-07:00&max-results=8&start=16&by-date=false

Edited May 3, 2019 by Bushi

[ch3erryw]

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[Aisling]

I don't know whether this as been posted but couldn't see it in the last few pages at least. But yep, we have a new CDAN/Ent Lawyer blind and it's obviously about...well, who else. Rather predictably the blind sites always roll out a K-pop kings blind at award time. Take with a huge grain of salt because of the website and its penchant for unverified fiction but have at it, gays.

 

Blind Item #10 - BBMA

Apparently this former A- list singer who is initialed didn't know members of that foreign born A+ list group are gay. She started repeating it over and over as she spoke to one of them and kept getting louder about it. Was just so embarrassing for all involved.

 

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search/label/blind%20item?updated-max=2019-05-02T11:45:00-07:00&max-results=8&start=16&by-date=false

 

I can't really imagine anyone in BTS just randomly coming out to a western celebrity at an award show. If anything remotely like the above did happen, it was probably someone making an assumption.

 

not that they would be wrong, but still

[Josaline]

 

Blind Item #10 - BBMA

Apparently this former A- list singer who is initialed didn't know members of that foreign born A+ list group are gay. She started repeating it over and over as she spoke to one of them and kept getting louder about it. Was just so embarrassing for all involved.

 

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search/label/blind%20item?updated-max=2019-05-02T11:45:00-07:00&max-results=8&start=16&by-date=false

 

Hmm.. This one is more interesting. 

 

Blind Item #12

 

 

This B-/C+ list actress used to be higher on the list. Then, several years ago she got into professional bearding. At one point she bearded for a former A+ list tweener who is now married. She has also bearded for athletes and others. Now, she is being asked by this foreign born A+/A list singer to not only beard, but to actually marry him so he can try and shake off all these rumors about himself. That still won't work. 

 

Like, almost everyone agree ıt's CamillaBelle/Shawn Mendes.

[ga_shina]

JK being scared of girls a meme: 

 

 

 

 

 

Srs: I think its partially him being awkward and partially being scared of dating scandals/fans going crazy. But since this is the thread that it is it's fun to speculate and think that he might just not be into them.

[ccyn]

JK being scared of girls a meme: 

 

 

 

 

 

Srs: I think its partially him being awkward and partially being scared of dating scandals/fans going crazy. But since this is the thread that it is it's fun to speculate and think that he might just not be into them.

Regardless of his whole 'scared of girls' thing, JK's just really gay lol he has a ton of receipts yet people still overlook him so often. I could totally go on a rant right now but I'll control myself lmao

[ga_shina]

Regardless of his whole 'scared of girls' thing, JK's just really gay lol he has a ton of receipts yet people still overlook him so often. I could totally go on a rant right now but I'll control myself lmao

 

Tbh he has always been a mystery to me. I did think it was unusual how he said he was dating this girl but would never meet up with her? Obviously once can argue that he was young... but aside from IU I have never seen him bother with women tbh. 

[R.E]

Yeah, I mean I'm totally fine with that too. It'd be a better reflection on Bobby if the change was down to him maturing and not his company. I'm just naturally a bit suspicious of many of these agencies and their strategies. Does anyone know if Bobby holds a dual passport btw? Is he obliged to undertake enlistment in Korea?

 

I don't know whether this as been posted but couldn't see it in the last few pages at least. But yep, we have a new CDAN/Ent Lawyer blind and it's obviously about...well, who else. Rather predictably the blind sites always roll out a K-pop kings blind at award time. Take with a huge grain of salt because of the website and its penchant for unverified fiction but have at it, gays.

 

Blind Item #10 - BBMA

Apparently this former A- list singer who is initialed didn't know members of that foreign born A+ list group are gay. She started repeating it over and over as she spoke to one of them and kept getting louder about it. Was just so embarrassing for all involved.

 

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/search/label/blind%20item?updated-max=2019-05-02T11:45:00-07:00&max-results=8&start=16&by-date=false

I wonder who it would be other than Bts though? Like the only other "foreign born" group at the BBMA's I can think of is CNCO, and I'd hesitate to call them A-. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if people knew members of Bts were gay without them having to officially come out to anyone, which I agree is highly unlikely in this context. Like there are SO many cases where celebrities in the US present themselves as straight but their actual sexuality is known to everyone in the industry and its just an open secret. I feel like what happened here was someone (like a manager or publicist or someone in the know) told this person members of Bts were gay in confidence (like you would if it was an open secret) and then this person proceeded to yell about it to everyone, which is why it was so embarrassing. I dunno, I could see it just being a case of someone just assuming they were gay, but I don't know why someone would be loud about that. 

[ga_shina]

This song isn't listed in the op :(

Tablo has always come across as a very open minded person and JW (Nell) is rumored to be gay. This song talks about 2 male friends who are in love but one is getting married.

As an aside: JW has also worked with RM. 

 

 

 

This one too. 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2019 by ga_shina

[JENKAI]

60% sure junmyeon broke up with dongwan now (last time he was seen with donghwan was late december last year). Since 2019, all he does is spend time with yonghun. plus the guy came out of nowhere lol.

 

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[ccyn]

Tbh he has always been a mystery to me. I did think it was unusual how he said he was dating this girl but would never meet up with her? Obviously once can argue that he was young... but aside from IU I have never seen him bother with women tbh. 

It's definitely just cause he was young then; it's not uncommon for gay people to date the opposite sex before realizing their gay. I feel like a lot of us have had that experience. True, he's literally never shown interest in women, but he's shown interest in men many times. And as someone in this thread a while back put: his love for IU is obviously just gay admiration. Heteros really can't get that through their brains tbh.

 

Also bringing this back so we don't forget:

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^^And just so y'all know, but Donghwan follows Yonghun on ig lol Yongun might just be a friend of both of theirs let's not jump to conclusions. Suho and Donghwan have been keeping it more on the down low the past few years, anyway. That's just my perspective, though.

Edited May 4, 2019 by ccyn

[ga_shina]

It's definitely just cause he was young then; it's not uncommon for gay people to date the opposite sex before realizing their gay. I feel like a lot of us have had that experience. True, he's literally never shown interest in women, but he's shown interest in men many times. And as someone in this thread a while back put: his love for IU is obviously just gay admiration. Heteros really can't get that through their brains tbh.

 

Also bringing this back so we don't forget:

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^^And just so y'all know, but Donghwan follows Yonghun on ig lol Yonghan might just be a friend of both of theirs.

 

I actually found a compilation of BTS being less than straight pages ago and yeah it definitely made me rethink some things 

 

Not sure if mentioned before, but Holland's favourite members are V and Jimin which I'm not surprised by. 

 

Edit:

 

Korea not sleeping on Troye Sivan and even mentioning the fact that he's gay. We stan.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2019 by ga_shina

[bb8__]

60% sure junmyeon broke up with dongwan now (last time he was seen with donghwan was late december last year). Since 2019, all he does is spend time with yonghun. plus the guy came out of nowhere lol.

 

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didn't he comment recently on dongwan's ig?

[JENKAI]

didn't he comment recently on dongwan's ig?

 

i dont think so. this was the last time he commented on donghwan's ig post 

 

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but correct me if i'm wrong