Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Tixy]

Since that twitter user wondered how someone could not believe in Eunhae, I'm gonna offer my perspective. No one can deny that these two are tight and love each other a lot. But they've been that way for over 12 years now, consistently maintaining a good relationship. I'll admit I don't follow them extremely closely, but I've never seen any bigger changes in the way they have interacted with each other over the years. And what about the period during which Eunhyuk dated IU? Shippers certainly believed even back then as well that Eunhae was real and them bam, IU accidentally posts that picture on twitter. Where was Donghae during all that, and how was he feeling about the situation? Eunhae is also a huge company promoted ship, they even have their own sub unit as a result, so playing up the lovey-dovey side of their relationship is to their financial benefit, even more so than with other idols. And I am not so sure that most companies would be willing to promote a real couple as a ship like that to begin with, it's practically a scandal just waiting to happen, therefore too risky from the management's perspective.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that it's kinda a huge coincidence imo that one of the top 2nd generation ships, which is actively promoted by their agency, is real, especially when one of them had a public dating scandal with a younger girl.

[Taecoholic]

 

 

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He's imitating Tae some big boobs or...?

[Aisling]

He's imitating Tae some big boobs or...?

 

I'm guessing he was talking about Wonho lol.

[Aearom]

Since that twitter user wondered how someone could not believe in Eunhae, I'm gonna offer my perspective. No one can deny that these two are tight and love each other a lot. But they've been that way for over 12 years now, consistently maintaining a good relationship. I'll admit I don't follow them extremely closely, but I've never seen any bigger changes in the way they have interacted with each other over the years. And what about the period during which Eunhyuk dated IU? Shippers certainly believed even back then as well that Eunhae was real and them bam, IU accidentally posts that picture on twitter. Where was Donghae during all that, and how was he feeling about the situation? Eunhae is also a huge company promoted ship, they even have their own sub unit as a result, so playing up the lovey-dovey side of their relationship is to their financial benefit, even more so than with other idols. And I am not so sure that most companies would be willing to promote a real couple as a ship like that to begin with, it's practically a scandal just waiting to happen, therefore too risky from the management's perspective.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that it's kinda a huge coincidence imo that one of the top 2nd generation ships, which is actively promoted by their agency, is real, especially when one of them had a public dating scandal with a younger girl.

Agree.

I do not know how the fans explain the IU situation. That's why personally I don't believe in Eunhae.

 

Does anyone think Wonpil might be gay? Out of Day6 he does not seem to be straight.

Edited April 26, 2019 by Aearom

[Bushi]

What if there's no 'accident' to IU posting her picture though?

 

If I were D or E's team and I knew my buddies could help me out, would I not ask? And retain a favour for the future? Isn't this the point of psychological manipulation? To make things seem organic and accidental?

 

SK media and netizens make a huge deal out of 'scandals' between male and female idols but it generally boils down to zilch that they just get away with before it fizzles out. It's usually a huge fuss about nothing. So I don't buy that the male-female setup has to be any more realistic than the two guys.

[littlebee]

Agree.

I do not know how the fans explain the IU situation. That's why personally I don't believe in Eunhae.

 

Does anyone think Wonpil might be gay? Out of Day6 he does not seem to be straight.

Wonpil pings for me. I don’t think theres any proof to this. He just doesn’t seem straight too me.

[Aisling]

Just imo because we can't know for sure, but for me, the Eunhyuk/IU photo is the same as the Donghae/Sehun photo. I genuinely don't understand how one picture with their heads close together is more convincing of a relationship than two people being consistently glued to each other for 14 years. Like, some think Eunhyuk couldn't have been with Donghae because he took a photograph with IU, but if he had been with IU, why would he have spent basically all his time with Donghae, even outside of work?

 

As for the idea that they couldn't really be a thing because they're so obvious, I think there's two things to remember: 1) neither of them are effeminate in the least, so they don't really have actual gay rumors beyond people shipping them (which isn't really taken seriously in kpop), and 2) this is a country where a good number of people still believe Jo Kwon is straight (remember that top-voted comment: "I don't think he's gay. He's more of a drag queen"), so there really is no limit to how much people can hide in plain sight.

 

Also, separate from this whole situation, I've always thought IU was potentially not-straight. She wrote a romantic song about Sulli (in her words, "from a man's perspective"), and a lot of people find her friendship with Yoo In Na to be sus (for example, IU calling Yoo In Na her muse in an award acceptance speech, spending Valentine's Day together, etc.). Again, who knows, but it's possible the whole thing was organized for both of them. Or maybe they're just friends and thought they could take a picture together without the world exploding. 

[Tixy]

What if there's no 'accident' to IU posting her picture though?

 

If I were D or E's team and I knew my buddies could help me out, would I not ask? And retain a favour for the future? Isn't this the point of psychological manipulation? To make things seem organic and accidental?

 

SK media and netizens make a huge deal out of 'scandals' between male and female idols but it generally boils down to zilch that they just get away with before it fizzles out. It's usually a huge fuss about nothing. So I don't buy that the male-female setup has to be any more realistic than the two guys.

I am not sure if I'm understanding this clearly, do you mean to say that it was a PR relationship? If you're arguing that, I cannot buy it one bit. IU had the image of nation's little sister, and then suddenly she is in her PJs in a bed with an older man who is shirtless. In a nation like South Korea, which is so image obsessed, no one from her team would willingly want something like that for her. If they maybe wanted to change her image to something more mature, they would have done it gradually and in a very controlled way. Eunhyuk too, so many fans at the time left him, he got a lot harassment and was mocked routinely on variety shows about the situation. From what I remember, IU was kinda barely legal at the time and people were even wondering if they may have started dating while she was a minor, since it was obvious that she liked him for a while, which makes the situation even messier. This was no ordinary dating scandal, and the fact that both of their careers survived in the end is borderline a miracle.

[ribbonribbon]

I happen to follow Eunhyuk closely, so I just offer my personal perspective on this, and on the general dating matter. 

 

I guess, there are different type of shippers. The ones who genuinely believe they are together all the time, the ones who think they must have been at some point, and the ones who just happen to think they are good together. Many people ship them for the latter two reasons.

For myself, I do not think they have been together this entire time. Are they together now ? I really don't know. 

 

For the IU scandal, why I don't think it is a publicity stunt - especially Eunhyuk got the backlash so severely. But that whole thing is also strange on so many levels. And IU actually did not get that much negative reactions, compared to other female idols who did get involve in a dating scandal. 

 

Generally, I don't think dating news or scandal automatically one from LGBT. Tony Ahn, Jonghyun, Baekhyun all have dating scandal and it is just hard for me to believe those three are straight.

[Josaline]

He's imitating Tae some big boobs or...?

 

Who knows? lol

 

I'm guessing he was talking about Wonho lol.

 

Yeah, this was also my first thought. I mean, some men's chest muscles are almost as big as the boobs. Like, some fans likes Yamapi's chest muscles, some fans making fun his man boobs. Same thing happen sometimes Wonho too.

[Aisling]

I am not sure if I'm understanding this clearly, do you mean to say that it was a PR relationship? If you're arguing that, I cannot buy it one bit. IU had the image of nation's little sister, and then suddenly she is in her PJs in a bed with an older man who is shirtless. In a nation like South Korea, which is so image obsessed, no one from her team would willingly want something like that for her. If they maybe wanted to change her image to something more mature, they would have done it gradually and in a very controlled way. Eunhyuk too, so many fans at the time left him, he got a lot harassment and was mocked routinely on variety shows about the situation. From what I remember, IU was kinda barely legal at the time and people were even wondering if they may have started dating while she was a minor, since it was obvious that she liked him for a while, which makes the situation even messier. This was no ordinary dating scandal, and the fact that both of their careers survived in the end is borderline a miracle.

 

I don't really think it was a PR relationship, mainly because everyone involved denied they were dating (from what I can remember, even his mom got involved to deny it). There are other non-sexual explanations for the photo, but who knows, maybe they did have a fling. Maybe D and E have had breakups in the past. In fact, they probably would have, if they've been together at all over the past 14 years. There was one time they mentioned having traveled to different places, Donghae referencing it as something like, "Remember, when we agreed to spend time apart to think about it again," before Eunhyuk cut him off and said it was about the album, and basically told Donghae to stop talking. It's not hard to imagine a same-gender couple in Korea breaking up to try making it work with girls. I have no idea if that has happened with them, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Still, a one-off like that doesn't change how they've acted before and after, which I just cannot justify as normal platonic behavior or out-of-this-world dedicated fanservice. 

 

But who knows? I could be completely wrong. It's just how I see it.

[ccyn]

Does anyone think Wonpil might be gay? Out of Day6 he does not seem to be straight.

 

Wonpil pings for me. I don’t think theres any proof to this. He just doesn’t seem straight too me.

I personally think Wonpil might be gay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if he's shown interest in girls before, I can't really remember a time he has. You're right that there isn't a lot of receipts for him though. But his relationship with Got7's Jinyoung I find interesting. They've been close since predebut and are the same age, they call each other their best friend too. I just think it's worth noting because Jinyoung is generally agreed upon in this thread as not-straight (imo he's gay, I think most people here agreed?) and they've been talked about before in the thread together before. Apparently they talk to each other on the phone for hours and see each other as often as they can too. They did a vlive together before which I suggest watching all of tbh. 

 

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[littlebee]

I just watched this video (has English subs)

 

I don’t know who Jaewook is. I wanted to see if a man I didn’t know was against lgbt+. Don’t ask why I just like hearing people’s views.

 

One of the guys said to him “I heard you’ve been to gay bars a lot tooâ€. Then this lady said to him “You’re not only searching for those kind of roles, are you?â€. Personally he seemed awkward after that question. He said he goes there to learn about the roles he plays. What do you think?

*if I got names mixed up sorry

Edited April 26, 2019 by littlebee

[MagicalGirl]

how can anyone think he's straight? his surgery is starting to make him look like taeyeon

 

 

 

 

im not saying hes straight but what even do these pics prove? 

 

Also, what surgery are you talking about? yunhos one of the most natural idols. hes hasnt had any work done except fixing his teeth. He had bulked up in the army and now has lost a ton of weight so his face looks even narrower. these aren't necessarily the best pics but in the recent shows hes been in he really looks great (radio star, knowing bros) 

Edited April 26, 2019 by MagicalGirl

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[babyv004]

in my perspective if donghae and eunhyuk dated (are dating) they had an unstable relationship until around 2013. they fight a lot and probably break up a couple of times

 

though they claim they barely have big fights (if MCs ask about it they always tell about a big fight where donghae get out of the car bc eunhyuk refuse to tell him a secret but that is all they tell us. or they forgotten/want to forget the others fight or they can't explain them so they don't talk about them), elf know that they fought a couple of times and they barely tried to pretend they are ok on camera (you can find a couple of videos where you can see they are ignoring each other).

 

(this fight is not related to the main topic but i will post it anyway) They fought around bonamana/no other era (i heard people saying that it could be bc donghae had some rumors w/ some wonder girl's member bc of a show they went but i am not sure if was really bc of that). it was quite obvious the tension on 

 and they didn't interacted at all in "no era" promotion time until the

 

They fight around the time that the photo was taken (people say that by their hair the photo was taken around the end of summer of 2012). Around that time some suju's members was about to having a vacation in Greece and donghae was supposed to go too but cancelled on them at last minute and went alone to North America

donghae and eunhyuk spoke briefly about that fight on the first Japanese tour. i dont bought donghae's explanation (pretty sure that was not about the album) but of course they will not tell the truth.

 

And they fought again when the photo was leaked (which i don't believe it was accidentally but i will not talk about why i think that bc i don't to fight with her fans). he even posted in his twitter a song that with the title: "man are all like this"

apparently they just made up around the time eunhyuk's family opened the "Tous Les Jours" store.

 

ofc that don't necessarily means that they was/are in relationship bc you know friends also fight but still

 

Frankly the photo to me does not mean much and is not even enough to prove much. I saw in a blog a few years ago that some fans used some filters and it seems that he maybe was not even shirtless (i will put the link here but take into account that it is written by a shipper). and his face everybody says it's a after-f*ck photo but it could also be a photo of someone who drank too much (i would even dare to say that it even could be from someone that had cried too much)

 

i don't understand why people refuse to see those 3 possibilities:

- or it was a beard/PR relationship that resulted really bad/was badly planned (what made them in the end not confirmed they was dating)

- or they actually had a thing bc he force himself to date/like her (what is a common thing to do when you are under pressure in a homophobic society you end up dating a person of opposite sex bc you want to not feel different. you renege your own fellings to try to be "normal")

- or maybe eunhyuk could be bi/pan and they dated (it seems people are forgetting that not exist only straight and gay people when the matter it is related to donghae and eunhyuk)

 

there is another possibility that she use him to get rid of her nation little sister image (but once again i will not talk much about it bc i dont what to piss off her fans)

 

 

another thing i remember is that girl given a interview in a show and she said that she like someone (i dont remember if she said that they was dating) but that person didn't seems to like her in same way. Frankly, I'm not looking forward to look for translation of things related to her. if someone want to search go ahead and then post here

 

things like this is why i remember why i hate to bring eunhae to discuss here

in a couple of pages it already appeared a eunhyuk anti spreading a story that make him look like a sexual predator, people trying to justify and normalize any suspicious eunhae interaction when if it was another kpop idol everyone would already making a big deal of it, people bring back eunhyuk's scandal with IU to dismiss any possibility that eunhyuk is not straight (not to mention the possibility that eunhae may have dated/are dating) and purposely forgetting that bisexuality and pan exist

i dont know if i will bring any more content related to donghae and eunhyuk to here

Edited April 26, 2019 by babyv004

[Tixy]

Still, a one-off like that doesn't change how they've acted before and after, which I just cannot justify as normal platonic behavior or out-of-this-world dedicated fanservice.

This is a bit of a personal story, but when I first got into kpop a long time ago I was totally convinced Eunhae was real. Everything they said and did seemed incredibly romantic to me and I thought they were the cutest. Now, when I'm a bit older, my opinion has changed. When I look at the two, I just see close friends, and all their lovey-dovey interactions, which previously seemed perfectly organic, now just seems kinda awkward. They look to me like either they are dating and are absolutely terrified to do fanservice together out of the fear of being outed, which I seriously doubt is the case, or that they are just two platonic friends who don't really know how to play up the fanservice very well together.

 

I think it's funny how my personal feelings regarding their relationship and those moments entirely changed, not because of anything that the two did, but because I figured it kinda didn't make sense anymore for me to believe in them, which meant I no longer found them cute as a ship, and suddenly I was seeing completely different things. My point being, people's perception of the way Eunhae act can be very different, and I went full 180 on it even. For me personally, wishful thinking and no dating scandals when mixed together really mess with my mind lol.

 

Just imo because we can't know for sure, but for me, the Eunhyuk/IU photo is the same as the Donghae/Sehun photo. I genuinely don't understand how one picture with their heads close together is more convincing of a relationship than two people being consistently glued to each other for 14 years. Like, some think Eunhyuk couldn't have been with Donghae because he took a photograph with IU, but if he had been with IU, why would he have spent basically all his time with Donghae, even outside of work?

I don't think it's quite the same. For starters, Donghae/Sehun picture was posted intentionally, meaning it's way more likely that there was nothing else going on behind it when compared to the Eunhyuk/IU case.

Donghae and Eunhyuk unquestionably like each other a lot, so I don't think there's anything weird about the fact that they have spent a lot of time together over the years, most close friends do that.

 

Also, separate from this whole situation, I've always thought IU was potentially not-straight. She wrote a romantic song about Sulli (in her words, "from a man's perspective")

I feel this serves as another good example of how people's perceptions may vary greatly, since a lot of people view IU and Sulli as friends who bonded together over liking older men lol, arguably the most heterosexual activity possible.

 

 

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How come these popular boycrush male idols often seem terribly not straight to me? Wonho is a total twunk, G-dragon practically outed himself 10 times now, men are out there describing Jimin as a black rose lol...

[Dice]

I just watched this video (has English subs)

 

I don’t know who Jaewook is. I wanted to see if a man I didn’t know was against lgbt+. Don’t ask why I just like hearing people’s views.

 

One of the guys said to him “I heard you’ve been to gay bars a lot tooâ€. Then this lady said to him “You’re not only searching for those kind of roles, are you?â€. Personally he seemed awkward after that question. He said he goes there to learn about the roles he plays. What do you think?

*if I got names mixed up sorry

You've never seen Coffee Prince or any of his other amazing dramas?! He's one of my favorite actors and jaewook (along with yoo ah in, im siwan, bogum and a few others) have always pinged as gay or at least bi to me. 

[Tixy]

things like this is why i remember why i hate to bring eunhae to discuss here

in a couple of pages it already appeared a eunhyuk anti spreading a story that make him look like a sexual predator, people trying to justify and normalize any suspicious eunhae interaction when if it was another kpop idol everyone would already making a big deal of it, people bring back eunhyuk's scandal with IU to dismiss any possibility that eunhyuk is not straight (not to mention the possibility that eunhae may have dated/are dating) and purposely forgetting that bisexuality and pan exist

i dont know if i will bring any more content related to donghae and eunhyuk to here

 

I'm sorry, it was certainly not my intention to upset anyone. I enjoy the regular posts here, but I also really love when people get into deeper discussions over disagreements. As long as they remain civil, which I think they always are, I don't see anything wrong with them. In fact, I would even argue that they might be good for the thread, since reading them may motivate other users to jump in as well and post more evidence, just like how you did in your post. I hope you won't stop posting content because of me.

 

Truth be told, I am extremely skeptical when it comes to shipping in general, so while I can say that some idols are not straight with a 100% certainty, I seriously have no clue who is dating whom. Having to act extremely close with your members as part of your job description, and then dating people whom you actually like in secret muddies the waters for me. I feel like some people definitely are dating within the group, but I have no idea who they are. Probably someone from NCT, purely numbers-wise lol.

 

I am not forgetting that people can be bi. I just tend to think that, while it's possible that people who have had a public relationship could be bi, or even gay for that matter, it's less likely that they are. Honestly speaking, this is just me protecting my heart! Thinking that an idol is dating his fellow group member, while dispatch is releasing photos of him on a date with his actual girlfriend, makes me feel like I'm experiencing some form of an lgbt representation cuckoldry lol.

[Aisling]

I don't think there's any need to get upset about each other's opinions here, since we're all being respectful. Different people are going to perceive things differently, and that's cool. 

[Nllybn]

Since the topic of actors kinda came up, which korean actors do you guys think are gay? I’m very into kdramas but rarely learn about the personal lives of actors, so any opinions would be great. I’ve heard a lot about yoo ah in and that’s it I think.

[hugo10]

Since the topic of actors kinda came up, which korean actors do you guys think are gay? I’m very into kdramas but rarely learn about the personal lives of actors, so any opinions would be great. I’ve heard a lot about yoo ah in and that’s it I think.

Some people here think Lee Jongsuk and Park Bogum are gay. Anyone have idea about other actor ?

[Taecoholic]

Some people here think Lee Jongsuk and Park Bogum are gay. Anyone have idea about other actor ?

 

Lee Jongsuk pings me too. His answer kind of remind of me Jimin's answer to Taehyung " I don't like you "

 

[ccyn]

Since the topic of actors kinda came up, which korean actors do you guys think are gay? I’m very into kdramas but rarely learn about the personal lives of actors, so any opinions would be great. I’ve heard a lot about yoo ah in and that’s it I think.

Kim Donghwan (Suho's bf as discussed in this thread), Jisoo and Nam Joohyuk (they've been talked about in the thread before), I think some people have talked about Jo Insung here too (D.O's actor friend), Lee Jongsuk has also been brought up, Lee Jungha (the one that IMFACT's Ungjae had a total crush on on the Unit), and NCT Doyoung's brother Gongmyung.

 

Other actors that just ping but I'm not sure about would be Tae Hangho and Kim Minseok.

Edited April 27, 2019 by ccyn