goldmine 2,849 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 adasdfsafadf GD in the new BB mv tho starts @ 1:43 now i know i'm not reaching when i say gd decked out in leather and eyeliner with what looks to be an equally leathered and eyeliner-rich drag queen (or at least very androgynous person), collared-and-leashed, who gd strokes in a vaguely sexual manner, is slightly suspect/suggestive come through tho gd adasdsa also shoutout to taeyang's tanned and muscled thrusting dancers <3 that "drag queen" appears to be a woman, she doesnt even look all that androgynous dear lord are BB's MVs from this era disgusting and degrading to women as fuck, I havent even finished watching one because i'd feel like vomiting at one point or another, completely unstanned. 15 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I don't get why females being sexual is always considered automatically to be degrading, but to each their own I guess. Maybe I'm too egalitarian for the kpop fandom are you implying female sexuality is naturally submissive?? Because thats how its always portrayed and that is in fact degrading. Hes got her on a leash and shes crawling like a dog??? What exactly is ~egalitarian~ about that? 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) They're both chained. http://onehallyu.com/topic/179583-did-you-find-the-bang-bang-bang-mv-sexist/ I saw that. If he was the one who crawled like a dog while she was standing at least at some point i wouldnt have had that big of a problem with it, but he isnt so who the degradation in the scene is directed towards is obvious. There are also dogs beside her while she's crawling like a dog, and a common insult against women is... Edited June 1, 2015 by Yeosa 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 he looks so flustered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Jinyoung 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I have to find where/what this is from... ....for research. it was saved in my drafts without a link to the video, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) - Edited December 1, 2017 by Юли� 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I'm 100% convinced Suho's not straight tbh There's his relationship with Donghwan, who called Suho his mother's 3rd son, hangs out w/ Taohun and went on sauna date with Suho and tagged the photo #itsbeen3years #together and also Baek and Sehun saying he talks on the phone late at night with a guy and then Chanyeol said "I became more careful with Suho after that" which was cut out of the show the part after 5:00 is so suspiciously chopped up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e80V-DLGEg&list=PL31FD09B249619B7F&index=210 He's also really close with Kwanghee if that means anything. Edited June 14, 2015 by Yeosa 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Lol what does Chanyeol mean he became more careful with Suho after that? I've heard a lot of male idols say stuff like that actually, when a gay rumor/joke is brought up they're like "I became more careful with him/didn't want to share a room with him", ~jokingly~ It happened to taehyun too, @ 0:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 intense as hell lmao what happened? I dont understand what they're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Kai pings me so much all the time... !! so i'll just leave this here for your pleasure and open debate!!! to each their own but, kai really barely pings at all. Hes my bias and i even want him to ping as at least bi but he just... doesnt. Sehun definitely does tho, and Kyungsoo sometimes as well, and even tho i ship Sekai and Kaisoo they're definitely just good friends so do you have other reasons to believe Kai pings? Maybe i missed out on something. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Guys, what about Chanyeol fingering Suho? Chanyeol's just bullying Suho again lol NamTae is gay (it rhymes haha) I need more videos to watch for the rest, need to observe them more wheres your sig from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Awwww, look guys, Taeyeon rules. Taeyeon just became one of my bae's, but the list is long so i don't think she'll come up on my bias lust unless she makes a sex tape with Yura and puts it on insta or comes out ^3^ Its hard to get up on my bias list y'know, y'have to be special✨✨ that Freudian slip doe 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) If any of what that person said was true, it could be MBLAQ and ZE:A as well. Didn't that podcast also say that the person in that group went to clubs? Exo don't strike me as club goers. didn't Taemin say Key brought strangers to their dorm? suho is very questionable in his actions and behaviors. he is super into male contact but the members are always teasing him that he's annoying. what is questionable about kyungsoo other than his doughy looks? that one time he rubbed kai's hand possibly sensually... but that was one time. all the times he stares it's not any different from when he stares at a wall. kyungsoo just has a weird stare. there was that stylist he was close to that kai seemed to be jealous of dislike. Also 'Insungie hyung', and whenever he does something gay exo get all riled up... suspicious tbh. Also, I dont think Chanyeol is gay or anything but i dont think hes 100% straight or as straight as people think he is I think a friend of his asked the other dude if Chanyeol was a girl/his girlfriend (i cant find where i read this ) and Chanyeol was basically just chill like "haha no i'm not". Pre-debut Chanyeol was life Edited July 3, 2015 by Yeosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Ok so I'm new in this thread and didnt check out the previous pages so dunno who yall suspect to be gay/bi. Here are my guesses; - tao - sehun - baekhyun(i think he's bi) - yunho - jaejoong - suho(same as baek) - kai - kyungsoo - key - heechul - luhan OTPs that i think are/were real; kaisoo, xiuhan, yunjae I honestly really do think there is something going on between kai and kyungsoo. Remember than one rumour about that a Chinese fan had a picture of kaisoo kissing backstage at one of their fanmeet in Japan. C-fans said that that person is someone who's trustworthy and woudnt lie about stuff like this, cuz that person apparently knows some insider info and posted/talked about some stuff before official news came out..) and then it was said that the rumour was getting out of hand and that SM was planning to do something like a dating scandal between either kai/kyungsoo with a girl idk all of them have pinged me at one point or another but 8/12 seems a bit much. I dont think xiuhan are gay, kai also seems pretty straight (this coming from a person who really wishes he wasnt). Soo pings quite a bit but i cant make up my mind about him. Suho and his boyfriend Donghwan are suspicious af, i think he's bi. I also agree about sehun and tao who ping the most. Unpopular opinion but... i'm not entirely convinced Baek is bi... i'm 50/50 with him. If you look at his predebut pics, the cutesy/shy thingy (especially around guys) seems to be recent (even predebut-Chanyeol had more aegyo than him). He didnt really seem like that predebut and he also does the most fanservice, he's like, the fanservice king and it seems more like he just found a thing that works for him. Edited July 9, 2015 by Yeosa 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I remember that. I have no idea about the original Korean (or if it's even available anywhere), but the question in Japanese was pretty explicit. It was "where do you look first when you look at a girl?" and Suga said "for me it's personality and atmosphere. I don't have anything like a decided ideal type. Not being limited to the opposite sex, with things like their impression and the atmosphere the other party exudes, 'ah! it seems like maybe the feeling would match with this person' is what I put importance on." I know this "not just the opposite sex" phrase can be used in Korea to deflect questions about their ideal type, but I've also noticed some suspected bisexuals using it in a very hinting kind of way. It could really go either way, but if I had to guess I'd say based on his track record he was probably hinting. Interestingly, in that same interview Jungkook said he looks for "a healthy beauty with well-balanced muscles on them" and Rapmon called him a pervert, V said "a person with a six pack?", and Jimin instantly decided that he was Jungkook's ideal type Also interestingly, the answers all used gender neutral language while the questions used gendered language, which is a bit weird. It makes me wonder if they all deliberately kept it gender neutral, or if something got lost in translation somewhere this x1000000. I'm bi and purposefully use neutral language, but nobody seems to be picking up my hints, like Do you stan Kai? If not, I don't think you have the proper knowledge and understanding to comment on his sexuality, or the way he feels about certain members. 1. A guy can feel great love and affection for another man without being gay. Romantic love =/= sexual attraction. Read about it. Yeah its called being bisexual. Also romantic love is half of a sexual orientation, its not just about sexual attraction. Read about it. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) people who identify as heterosexual CAN and often DO have romantic feelings/love for the same sex. Straight people can desire companionship, affection, and intimacy from the same sex, and still identity as straight. I used to identify as heterosexual too (while having such feelings), it clearly doesnt mean i was. Romantic love can be completely platonic in nature. There can be no trace of sexuality in it. there's romantic love (not platonic) and there's friendly platonic love. Romantic love is half of a sexual orientation, platonic love is what we feel for family and friends who we see as such. "There can be no trace of sexuality in it." true, people who can feel romantic love but no sexual attraction are known as asexuals. I don't know why you people just can't admit that D.O. is straight. If a dude doesn't ping you and you can't figure him out, he's more than likely straight. Since y'all claim to have super powers that correctly and effectively pinpoint someone's sexuality, he should be an easy case. but he does ping thats the thing. The only reason i cant completely figure him out is because hes quite quiet and reserved. Why every time someone speculates about Luhan or Xiumin being queer the automatic dismissal is "I think Xiuhan was just a bromance" ? They interact with other people too. Now, I'm not sure about Luhan (homeboy acts like the closest he's been to a V was during his C-Section birth) but Minseok has been displaying Jjong-levels of thirst basically since forever. He always came off as one of the straightest to me, could you give me some examples? Your opinions are pretty much the same as mine, except Baekhyun. I think there is a good possibility that he is bi. I think so too, but i'm not as convinced as i am with Suho being bi. Baek does the most fanservice, he knows exactly what the fans want and thats exactly why its hard to tell whats real or fanservice with him. Edited July 11, 2015 by Yeosa 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) On 7/13/2015 at 3:42 AM, mamamuoo said: "why don't we celebrate the people who made it possible for gay people to be where they are." did i just fucking read this with my own 2 eyes..........................................The only ones who made it "possible for gay people 2 be where they are" were trans women of color by going to the streets and asking for respect. But of course people ignore that and act like whiny straight allies. god -_- Also, this whole thing of "throwing sexualities at people" i see no one complaining when people think a man and a woman should be together, straight is also a sexuality lmao Sorry, random but, i'm just sick of lesbians being erased. It was a lesbian who started the Stonewall riots after being disrespected by a cop. On 7/12/2015 at 10:29 PM, Park_Sehyun said: I don't hate being gay, I dislike pride. The problem isn't that, there are parts of gay pride that are really not about pride and more attention seeking and makes us seem like were forcing ourselves onto others. I don't think being proud of being gay shouldn't mean going outside and march half naked but being proud of who you are. We don't celebrate people who have survived HIV, we don't celebrate people who have made it possible for gay people to be accepted, but we show that we have great bodies or that we look good in drag, we need to show that we are good people. There are people who are scared of being chased out of their homes for being gay, and those certain parts of gay pride that the media covers can only make it worse for people to be who they are. This is actually a serious problem. Pictures of people doing such things at parades are used as a reason to not have any in countries where there havent been any yet. The same happened in Korea. Instead of simply marching with inspirational quotes and stuff when they finally got the chance to have a parade, what did some people do instead? This is what right wing nuts mean when they say there should be no parade because "gays are gross and wanna shove it in our face". These kinds of images overflow forums/news in EE countries whenever the possibility of a parade appears, and is a huge reason why a lot of people (even people who are lgbt) are anti-parade. And what does that result in? No parade. And what does no parade result in? No representation for lgbt people and no change. Edited May 23, 2021 by goldmine 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 from my own ignorant opinion, i have no problem with pride parades being like that in my country (spain) because usually carnival parades are even worse. But on countries like sk, where they are a tad bit more conservative, these kind of parades could come as a shock to them and might distance them a bit more from the lgbt community, instead of humanizing the image of the community Its not a 'might', they most definitely do. And its not just in sk, its in every country that hasnt had one - and they wont if they think it will result in San Francisco type parades. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I actually agree, that's the part about boundaries. We can always criticise details. The rest -- and my main point -- is that there is a core that should be remembered, and those who say that pride should not exist or that it hurts us in the public eye are missing it. I would very much like to live in a world where pride would be superfluous, but we don't. The bully is still there. If someone here is uncomfortable with pride, it's your prerogative, but think what you think because of what you think, not because of what they think. That, for me, would draw the line between personal preferences and internalised shame. considering the previous replies who misunderstood my comment i'd like to clarify that i agree. The only reason i dont like (western) prides is because they're embarrassing. NO ONE, no matter sexuality or sex should go out on the streets basically more than half naked/show PDA on a seriously inappropriate level (very sexual), in bondage/crawling/with a leash/doing other BDSM stuff in public where children could see. Oh, and about the pride provoking straight people in the Eastern Europe, this might be related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgm3lb9JUU0 When your only offence is holding hands. That's what I mean by the pride being for us first. They won't forget -- and forgive -- what we are no matter what we do. This is what should happen at pride instead of the stuff i mentioned above, same-sex couples holding hands/hugging/kissing in order to normalise this because many people are not used to the sight, people carrying inspirational quotes and similar. But thats not what happens at San Francisco type parades - which are used as a reason that there should be no parade. People (even some lgbt) are claiming if pride becomes a thing it will eventually end up like that and thats why it shoudnt become a thing at all. Instead of proving people wrong, look what the hell happened at the first SK pride smh. Edited July 15, 2015 by Yeosa 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) i understand your point but if you're talking about this year's pride parade, it's not the first pride in korea. They have had them for over 10 years, i think oh i was under the impression it was the first one because such a big deal was made over the fact that there was going to be one 1.so even during pride we have to put the comfort of straight people over our expressions of queerness? 2.i get your point about pride being a very sexual thing, but being gay is sexualised in a way that being straight is not. you see a het couple kissing and you think, oh, there's a couple kissing. but when people see a gay couple kissing, it's 'look at those gay people doing sexual things that will lead to gay, unnatural sex'. the stand that gets taken in defiance/retaliation is 'i'm gay and not shy about it, so i'm going to celebrate the fact that i like boinking people of my own sex', and that's why pride is a very sexual affair. 3.as for sf type parades where bondage gear comes out in full force vs hand-holding/kissing type parades, well, that's like trying to fir queerness into a very heternormative box. there are lots of gay couples that are in monogamous relationships, and then there are queer couples that are in uncommon relationships - open relationships, dom/sub type relationships etc. and you can't ignore this part of the community. you can't carve them out and throw them away because they don't fit within the heteronormative world-view. i added numbers in front of the paragraphs i'm addressing 1.no, but you should put basic human decency in front of whatever expressions, like, not showing your ass on the streets where children and other people (such as me for example) dont want to see that shit. I wouldnt want to see it no matter your sexuality or sex (and im bi) so i dont know where the hell you got the idea that it has anything to do with being "heteronormative" lmfao 2.thats why kissing as well as other decent PDA should happen at parades, so it will become normalised and nbd 3.again, bdsm has fucking nothing to do with anti-heteronormativity lmfao i dont want to see that shit performed on the streets whether its by a gay or straight couple Edited July 15, 2015 by Yeosa 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Considering the fact that we've basically analysed everyone, which idols do you think are straight but allies? And which are homophobic? imo a majority are allies, even though its korea, its pretty obvious the entertainment industry tends to be more accepting bts, like when taemin's manager casually asked him if he was dating kai like it was nbd Chanyeol joked that he stayed away from suho after it was revealed he talks to a man every night, but i dont think hes hostile or anything, he wouldnt genuinely avoid anyone bc of their orientation like GO did, but he seems like the type to crack a no homo joke Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 That's ironic cause Chanyeol was feeling on Suho's ass wut post gifs pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Kai also grabbed Suho's butt, like, a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FijrlrTRNcg&list=PL31FD09B249619B7F&index=253poor suhos butt, first chanyeol, now kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmine 2,849 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Same thought came to me but Changsub and hyungsik seems pretty straight, but i dunno “when Hyunsik and Kyungsoo meet, they’ll send loving gazes to each other†- Minhyuk (ksoo sitting on hyunsik's lap) hmmmmmmmmm Edited August 15, 2015 by Юли� 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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