Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Melany]

11 hours ago, witchcocktor said:

I'm sure some of the boys have been doing favors whether by choice or not. Let's not pretend like k-idol business is above that. But that's not really relevant to this topic.

this. Some girlgroups members were discovered having sponsors, so it must be not unusual for boygroup too.

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

12 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

this thread is kinda negative these days so let's watch yuta smiling at an employee

not tea, he's just so sweet 

 

go king get that BBC

[Melany]

9 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

 i'm not attacking you lol.

LSM favors some artists over others and this is a fact that has been known for ages now. let me tell you, like every entertainment company CEO he knows what he wants when he sees a promissing artist that will be able to reproduce what his mind projects on them. that's just how it is with taeyong, and how it was with taeyeon, kangta, etc. he might be the greatest mercenary of all, but to be able to touch his artists? i don't think he is that kind of predator himself. even though i don't believe they'd actually be doing it, the possibility of SM selling their idols to sponsors makes me sick, so let's just drop it. just look at how packed their schedules are and you'll know they got no time to be messing up with minor sponsors just to get some crumbs. 

i'm not trying to deify LSM ew, but there's a reason why LSM was able to build an empire and stay in the market as the main entertainment company without (many) fails during all these years. SM got a lot of power that envolved years of the idols blood, sweat and tears, image change, hard training, hard work, concerts, goodies, commercials, performances, mental stress, OVERWORK. it's so dangerous if you just choose to talk about sexual favors, if you just assume they do it to get to a higher place. of course just the fact that we'll never know the things they hide unless they want us to know is sus, they're secretive, i get it, but i really want to believe their ethics when it comes to forced sex and prostitution. it's a crime, it's too heavy. don't attach their success and LSM's biases to sexual favors.

YG got his shit exposed while trying to cover up for others which shows to me two possibilities: he either doesn't have enough money to buy his way off or he was just so messed up it was impossible to hide it any longer no matter how much power he held. if there's something sketchy about LSM and SM other than their xenophobic, opressive behavior and crazy contracts, things that have already been brought to light quite a lot of times, then they're the worse entertainment company ever.

oh okay then, i didn't know he pushed artists so much too, ive been a kpop fan only since middle 2016. (so when nct debuted)

[Melany]

4 hours ago, chargerdine said:

This post is a slightly late but the reaction to this is quite jokes.

Bighit is notorious for feeding ships, actually it’s been heavily discussed here, so why all of a sudden would they delete and edit something that feeds said ships? Let’s keep things straight lol

I don’t know the full story of this or if it’s true or not, but if it is, it was definitely not just because of shippers. 

if i remember well there was a moment in bv when jk kissed hoseok (on the check?) under the tent and bh blurred it. 

[Melany]

On 4/29/2020 at 3:27 AM, taeweishin said:

Thoughts about Cravity?

as an x1 fans i obviously know only about produce x members, so here are my thoughts;

jungmo: he had some gay rumors, i remember some girl being interested in him and asking if he has a girlfriend then his friend responding he is gay, could be a joke of course

wonjin: he was clingy to hyungjun, they were a popular ship during produce, he played "jealousy" thing whenever hyungjun became closer to another contestant. probably just fanservice though

hyungjun: very interesting, had a huge female friends cicle predebut with who he made dance cover and love making girlgroup cover in general. no idea if he is just effiminate or queer.

minhee: absolutely no idea, he rarely displayed emotion in x1, seems quite introverted, i think he is probably straight. He was super flustered during hangyul and seungyoun gay dance though.

hyunbin: didn't really pay attention to him sorry, so no thoughts.

[Melany]

4 hours ago, IREGRETEVERYTHING said:

So, I'm pretty sure that Ten just drew and posted art of vaginas on IG and now everyone on twitter is losing their minds. I don't know if it's related to the thread, but I found it interesting, lol.  

 

i just remember plenty of straight guys drawing dicks on tables back in school. 

 

[Melany]

2 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

i'm writing on a whim based on random things i read on the internet today so it might be confusing, out of context and not necessary at all but bear with it if you're reading lol

first of all, ten is an educated thai student and *get ready to be flabbergasted* he probably knows what a vagina is! that's why i can't say it was an accidental vagina, even though i only saw it as a vagina when people started pointing it out. to me it looks like a peacock feather lol. anyway, i don't get what is so abnormal about it for people to be going crazy on twitter.

second of all, i'm not talking about ten in majority, this is more of what i think in general: it's already kinda wrong to assume that an lgbtq person should live inside a queer bubble and even worse to think they'd be limited in what they want to express in their art because of their own sexuality. art doesn't always have to do with one's sexual attraction, take it from the fact that there were gay idols singing about dating a pretty girl. let's say he purposely drew it similar to a vagina. but what if he's gay? must he not draw a vagina because women have vagina and he doesn't like woman? some people really be sounding dumb like that with those stereotypes. i need a genuine opinion: do you guys think him drawing something vagina-like means he might be straight/bi? 

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i saw a peacock feather, so ten is probably very attracted to cocks, lol i have my biases too.

this is ten in 2016 holding a book called "Sung-ae A's Red Book" (구성애의 빨간책 in case you wanna search for it) which is basically a book about sex.

at that time he was a rookie, 20 years old and not married at all i guess, but that didn't stop him from getting curious about other people's sex life. the content seems to be explicitly heterosexual and he was interested in informative/recreational reading. the fact that he was reading this book didn't really change the way the fandom perceives him for 4 years nor disturbed him from being his true self and his having instinctual queer-friendly sides and i don't like to consider those stereotypes when it comes to him or anyone else.

 

this literally, like him drawing a dick wouldn't make him gay, him drawing vagina doesn't make him straight. It's all about aesthetic. it's literally just art

Edited May 2, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

10 hours ago, ga_shina said:

Go off Jo Kwon!

 

are there any korean who think he is straight at this point? or is he like an open secret

[Melany]

On 5/8/2020 at 12:07 AM, Josaline said:

Yeah, I also see Jungkook as the member who has the most convincing girlfriend rumors and is sure that he is really interested in girls. Maybe he have some bi curious moments from time to time, but mostly his reaction to other mens is too ordinary when compared to other members. These are the things I can find about Jungkook and the girls,

 

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It is rumored that he has been separated and reconciled with this girl for several years.

Jungkook and rumored staff members

 

 

OH YES jungkook oppa is definitively straight and attracted sexually to girls, but only hairless booty taehyung twink is an exeption to him, other men disgust him.

im sorry but it just come off as this, you said you think taekook is "real" but somehow doesn't want  jungkook to be associated with the "lgbt" term. which is something weird since no thing as "only gay for" exists. like choose a side is he queer and taekook is real or is he straight? 

again i don't believe such thing , as demisexual exist it's just seems like a meaning for " he is straight but also  1 % gay (for the hairless twink) "

 

[Melany]

On 5/8/2020 at 4:05 PM, SingularEpiphany said:

My personal belief about Taehyung's Park Bo gum and Wooga squad friendships is that, while they are genuine to some extent, there is also some PR stunting involved there. I don't have good feelings about Bo gum, so maybe I'm just convincing myself. The whole filming and posting pictures of Bogum and Taehyung's Jeju island vacation was a little over-the-top.

I realised I never contributed my actual thoughts about rainbow BTS, so here goes. 

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#RM - Straight, strong ally, really small possibility of being bi-curious. I find RM to be clear because he has always been the chief lyricist and so most heavily female-centred songs such as Miss RIght, Converse High and War of Hormones have been written by him, and are pretty clear in their interest in women - 'At the end of of your long, shiny hair, Your gentle hips sing'. I think he regrets a more toxic brand of masculinity in the past and has always been open-minded. He also speaks as the representative for BTS so I don't know how far his words reflect his own interest or supporting other members. 

#Jin - Gay/Bisexual. What made me think on these lines is this particular clip from Rookie King, from 2:00 onwards, where there is a game to remove the hat from the opponent's head (here, unfrotunately, Jungkook, who was sixteen and shouldn't have been playing this game). Jin, at that point shy, didn't seem to mind going for it and Suga comments something on the lines of 'this hyung is originally like that'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVw_c1-B-y0

 I wouldn't take his softer mannerisms as a cue to being gay, but the fact that he retained a softer self-presentation while in a hip-hop group (like BTS was in the beginning) to the extent that he didn't fit in and they kept calling him awkward is interesting. He was also pretty low-key till 2016, a year in which Wings was released and which he has said was the year he was finally allowed to be himself. This 2017 appearance from him and Jimin with Tony and Jaeduck (the long-time cohabiting couple from H.O.T. and Sechskies) has him acting low-key flirtatious.

https://twitter.com/taehyungsonly1/status/927573765772283904?lang=en 

I've brought up his underrated closeness to Taehyung before so I won't repeat that, but I see some kind of solidarity between the two. 

I don't actually see him showing much interest in girls, but I've retained him as bisexual because he has said he wanted a girlfriend in a non-interview situation before and I'd take that as face-value, whether or not he was just pretending. 

#Suga - Bisexual / straight but really angsty love-life. Suga has actually shown interest in girls, such as being very shy while speaking to Halsey, and being somewhat shaken by Mamamoo's performances. But there's something uneasy about his love life and given by his music he just seems to have more going on beneath the surface. I don't actually take his lyrics about taking women and men to Hong Kong as conclusive because it could be rap-bragging - but on the other hand the fact that he mentioned it makes me think he has some kind of experience with homosexual attraction. This isn't indicative, but I find it interesting that he has collaborations with a lot of high-profile women which is a nice sign of respect for and interest in women, whether as a gay/bi man or a straight one.   

#J-Hope - Straight (or we will never know). J-hope is so professional that even his fanservice seems a part of his job. There's also the fact that he kills his own ships. He also doesn't show many signs of struggling with himself. He's physically affectionate to the whole of maknae line and Jin, but doesn't seem hesitant or shy - I think that's because so sure of his sexuality he knows he won't be misread.

#Jimin - Straight / bisexual but preferring women. I know this is controversial to say, but like J-hope, I see Jimin as someone very invested in the job and doing the fanservice required as a part of it. There's also the fact that BigHit chose to ignore the very alive TaeKook ship and push the JiKook one (with G.C.F. Tokyo, posted on an official channel). Jimin seems to relish the fact that he's admired by men, but I'm not so sure he actually wants to be with them. The last few minutes of this clip show Jimin getting irritated with Taehyung for pushing a kiss between him and Suga, which is unnecessarily defensive, as if he's angry at the implication that he would want to do it:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5dlXLxPSI

Of the whole of BTS, he has shown the clearest reaction to women, such as in this reaction to Hwasa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVeyF5uHGY

Overall his personality evolution is interesting, from being angry to radiating calm and from targeting a muscly build to being more androgynous, but I think this may be to do with getting comfortable in his skin and realising what makes him attractive. I think people who push Jimin as gay rely too much on the trope of him being attracted to big black men, but Tony (from AHL) has clarified it was a joke. 

#Taehyung - Gay. From Stigma and Singularity to his recent 'husband-nim' comment, I don't think Taehyung has been too subtle. He also seemed to be interested in the approval of more than one older guy in the group - J-hope, Jin, RM. I do think he remains traditional, very much wanting children and family, but  it isn't unlikely he sees himself doing that with a man instead. What I find telling is the deliberate dismantling of the TaeKook ship and the shift in his personality, from very open and free (dancing in heels) to private and reserved. Seems to me that he's protecting himself from being outed.  

#Jungkook - Straight (or bisexual but remarkably untroubled by the pressure of the circumstances). It would be revolutionary for the lead singer of a Kpop group to be gay, but he shows no signs of being particularly conflicted by his position as the straight heart-throb of millions (unlike Taehyung, who has been drawing boundaries and becoming quieter). The thing about JK is that, he was so young at debut that he would have had to come to terms with his sexuality on the job and under the spotlight and constantly hide it- and I don't see any real signs of such a struggle in him - not much guilt or burden. I know people tend to underplay the IU fascination, but he actually said IU was his ideal type after being asked if he had a girlfriend and if he liked anyone:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8d8TP6MAsg 

I see his fascination with RM and GD more in terms of professional role models - he began considering a career in singing after seeing GD and joined BH to train after seeing RM. I think his equation with RM has been too straightforward for someone with an unresolved crush. If he was anyone but the lead singer and the top shipped idol, I would have taken Golden Closet as a conclusive sign of his personal beliefs. As it is, I don't know what to make of it. Much like J-hope's bisexual flag in the MV, I see it as pro-LGBTQ+ without knowing what that says about him personally. 

 

 

 

i agree with all exept i think taehyung is bisexual (with a preference for men)

it's seems like he has  a crush on the mc, he try to flirt and is a bit embarassed around here while usually he is very comfortable with people

 

[Melany]

4 minutes ago, Josaline said:

WTF you talkig about? I NEVER said I think Taekook is real or something like that. If you claim that someone says something like this, you have to provide proof that you cannot. I share it because it is generally related to Taehyung in the suspicious things they do, but for some reason I always get the stamp of the shipper.  I'm really sick of that. Either prove that I am the shipper or shut your mouth on this! I'm so tired of double standard here. I always wrote that I believe that Jungkook is demisexual, go to my first posts and see, you will see. I think rumors of girlfriend are believable and that's why I believe he's leaning towards to girls. If I see a bi curious moment, I share it. Simple is that. What is wrong with evaluation from both sides? Should I ignore that he shows interest in girls, has girlfriends, and he also has an interest in female artists? Isn't this is the place for us to discuss things? These attitudes really hamper the desire to write here for people who are already a little behind.  

"post taekook moments" im not a shipper!!!!! well call it what you want but you definitively seems to have  a love boner for them and think there is something between them. 

The problem isn't that you try to proof he likes girls, i think he is straight personally but that you seems to believe he and tae are in some sort of gay relation ship but at the same time refuse to see jungkook as gay or even bi that you even go as far as searching  term as "demisexual". 

Also see bicurious are just bisexual in denial.

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

6 minutes ago, Josaline said:

I'm sorry, but I don't choose the people Taehyung chooses to interact with.

mate, you literally just posted that a movie had taekook initial how is that not shipping? 

you are free to ship or post about ship but please stop being in denial that you actually ship them. If you are not a shipper then idk what shipping is. I just don't like the "gay for" narative you used

[Melany]

1 minute ago, Josaline said:

How come it is being a shipper to talk about a actor who have another drama that Jungkook previously acted together and have the scenes were almost light BL? How to mention is wrong that the names of the main roles in the drama he played in have a popular ship reference to attract attention? Sometimes I really think people don't understand entertainment world.

because no one gonna notice that exept taekookers themselves lmao, brain of shippers are programmed to see everything related with their ships. 

Just like other poster said "tae" and "guk" are very popular in korean name.

"tae hee, tae rin, tae eeun, taemin" "yoonguk, inguk, guk joo" 

you just called out a poster for being a " taejin" shipper even though she just assumed their relation was interesting (just like you with taekook).

[Melany]

1 minute ago, Josaline said:

Except, she is a shipper and she accepted.  Then I saw that there were discussions on this topic in other forums and I also posted here too.  

at least she accepted it while you didn't, it's even more annoying.

Im not against shippy post but i hate when people deny they are shippers.

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Also, I had posted about this drama before, but the names had never caught my attention. You can go back and see my post. After learning that this actor was acted with Jungkook before, I once again looked at the details of the series.

I don't care let stop here, it doesn't change the fact that you like taekook and still believe jk is straight but 2 percent gay for taehyung.

[Melany]

4 minutes ago, Josaline said:

As I expected. You can't prove that I am the shipper and you just accuse. I will not look at just one side and ignore the other evidences. I really don't like people who do that.

you literally brush off any ship in bts that isn't taekook. 

[Melany]

Talking about txt, gay korean think that only soobin is gay, in bts they think only V is gay. 

[Melany]

15 hours ago, TataBoo said:

 

 I'm not surprised about these two, they strongly give off lgbtq+ vibes. Did they say anything else or how they came to that conclusion? 

 

 

i think they are going by vibes, they talk usually about girlgroup or some bg members but more rarely. they like "yeonjun x soobin" even though they consider yeonjun straight. 

Once they made a  list about idols they think are gay but i lost it ( i saw it last year ), they refer to gay idol as " sister"(unnie)

the idols i saw often posted and refered as gay: Yoon jisung, Lee Daehwi, Choi Soobin, V (BTS) , ex X1 Dongpyo, 

then they thirst on (but don't call them gay)= Yohan ex X1, Daniel, Minkyu ex X1, Jungkook, Yeonjun. Jihoon ex W1.

They also compare soobin to the japanese skater yuzuru hanyu.

remember that they speculate just like people here, no real fact.

 

12 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

Where did you find this? Feel very free to throw in some links (especially if it's from forums) because i'm pretty interested in sifting through it and read their speculation. 

You can DM me if you don't want to post it out in the open. 

I don't want  to post any links sorry, because im afraid that some people will start to post there and ruin it, they think only few people are in kpop are gay, while western lgbt kpop fans think a lot more people are lgbt, it's better to keep it a place for gay korean. But if i find some intersting posts, i will dm you

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[Melany]

i don't think jimin is gay, those looks like genuine attraction to women

he is probably bi, but leaning to women, i think he was attracted to the black male mc , he is just very obvious and can't hide his thirst XD

he likes his men and women dark and thick

Edited July 29, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

On 7/29/2020 at 3:32 PM, Kpop_fan178 said:

Girl, You should see me reacting to a Lady Gaga performance and i am still gay as a rainbow.

Reacting yes, as in showing surprise or admiration like jungkook but jimin looks geniously thristy. In the fiirst video, him reacting to hwasa body this way definitively shows he is interested in women.

If it was a male shirtless performer you would see it posted here a dozen times as proof that he is attracted to men. 

I think Jimin is bi, i think jungkook is interested in women too

Jungkook seems pretty much into this woman here, he try to touch the mc numerous time and to be closer to him. 

 

at 4:30, jungkook get jealous and looks upset when the mc compliment jimin hair and get flirty.  through all the video he is watching jimin right in his eyes while smiling a bit, it looks like she is their target and they get competitive over women sometimes like at 4:00, at 1:57jungkook give namjoon a bad glare because namjoon changed his hand position to be closer to the mc.

In conclusion (my thoughts): Lgbt members: V (gay), yoongi (bi), jimin (bi). 

Rest are straight, also gay korean fans agree that only V could be gay. They didn't even think that yoongi/jimin are gay or bi. 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

@bb8__ you are not edgy

[Melany]

Just now, Bushi said:

If you set your stall out by everything 'gay Korean fans' say or think then you might as well allow someone to give you a lobotomy. 

You are allowed to exercise your own judgement. Gay Korean fans are no more going to know idols and their inner worlds than you, me or the rest of the planet. 

And do we really need a shit ton of so-called 'heterosexual proof' dumping here? It's like spam.

I have no problem with Jimin being gay, bi, asexual or straight as a pole but you must understand that these people KNOW the cameras are on them and they get media training in how to react in a fandom that is primarily about and for straight females. As to Jungkook, I'm in the camp that thinks the tattoo artist might have been a legit girlfriend and they got caught out, but that doesn't mean he's solely attracted to females. His reactions around women, especially non-Korean women, is that of wonder. He was co-oped into BTS at about age 4 so all he's know is a life of Korean rules and regimes up until he started getting comfortable in hos own skin and meeting foreigners. Obviously he's fascinated by them. He's had so little exposure to the outside world up until a few years ago. It doesn't mean he wants to jump into bed with every American female MC he stands next to.  He seems open and excited to meet new people, of any gender. And no doubt genderless. 

None of this is as cut and dried as pure attraction. These are idols and there are so many factors in play here. 

 

they obviously do know more than us, they are closer to them, they inderstand korean culture. Some skinship that seen weird in the west is perfectly normal there. 

So being attracted to a female mean you want to bang her? he is literally just showing attraction toward her like jimin did with the black american guy. double standard are showing here. You literally always post jimin "checking out" men in malta? 

 

 

 

 

 

[Melany]

17 hours ago, LostChild said:

I disagree, of course that gay Koreans are going to pick up better on which idols are gay just like I, a French person, can identify better which French celebrity is not straight than a non French person. It's not only that they're closer to them culturally but it's also a fact that LGBT communities are different depending on which country they belong to. They can recognize mannerisms, speech patterns and demeanors that we wouldn't even pay attention to. Yes, it doesn't mean that they'll always be right but their guesses are certainly closer to the truth than ours are.

 

I used to thought that Namie Knowles was kinda overreacting but it's really true that some of us immediately brush off instances of idols showing attraction to the opposite sex because it doesn't fit the image we conceived of them in our heads. Sometimes no matter how much you want someone to not be straight, they're just straight and there's nothing more to look at.

same here as an asian person, i can definitively say that many asian men are more feminine than western men. But that doesn't mean they are more gay of course.

Asian usually draw men and women alike, thin body like a stick, the only thing that differentiate them are genital organs and breasts. 

While western artists accentuate feminity and masculinity such as wide hip, smaller feature on women and muscular body and wide jaw in men. 

What i mean is that asians have differents views on what is masculine on what is feminine than the rest of the world. 

So people who think cultural difference doesn't influate on gaydar are deffinitively wrong. That said some flaming gays such as daehwi, ren or jo kwon would be seen as gay everywhere.  (because they are so gay lol). 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

my thought on nct:

Taeyong: gay but in the closet

Jaehyun: straight/ bicurious

Doyoung: straight 

Johnny: straight as hell, before debuting as an idol he was a fugboy he definitevely fugged some fat blonde amerithot 

Ten: gay

Jungwoo: bi or gay

Jaemin: straight, pussy slayer

Jeno: reserved gay, 

Chenle: effiminate, maybe bi

Yuta: i don't think he is straight,  probably bi, i don't think yuwin play any part in it. 

Jisung: straight

Renjun: no idea, could be anything

Taeil: straight as hell

Winwin: straight as hell

Mark: Bi, i see a lot of people think he is straight. i think him being panicked over johnny "we made out" or him being shy with daniel shows he has some interest in male but is in the closet

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

3 hours ago, lailah said:

what  do youu guys think of jisung and minho from stray kids? ( idk if it's been discussed before )

like this video ( at 6:07 )

 it sounds like he tried to say he liked him romantically ( although I know some ppl think its invalid since its from the compny )

or also this video especially the clip at 3:28 changbins reaction is reallly sus  ( sorry its a shippnig video if it bothers you )

it really seems like they like each other and every one knows it except for themselves. 

sorry this post is so shippy 

i think it's one sided from minho side, yeah honestly those videos " X member expose X ship" i see a load of them, "Jhope exposing Rosekook", "Jhope exposing tzukook" which looks suspicious then "Jhope exposing Jikook" which also looks suspicious. There is always one members who  is used for people's ship. 

I don't trust them so much. it's literally just a members smiling as always, not something to looks at. But minho and hyunjin are still hella gay.

I think Jisung is straight and like minho a lot as a hyung. 

[Melany]

guys, what do you think of chanyeol and actor mackenyu relationship?

do you think they were dating or sth? that what it looked like to me at least.

but then some people here shared him (pcy) and the actor being close with cnblue jonghyun and some another idol from ftisland linked in the molka scandal.

the actor suddenly stopped talking about chanyeol and had some het scandal recently, which is  very odd to me. 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Melany