Which male idols do you think are gay?

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I already posted that by mistake, that fanboy is a kid. 

 

 

I remember the original fancam of this and not only was this really taken out of context, but the fanboy was a child, so I think Suga was just looking at him fondly, actually, all members of BTS treated him really sweetly, it was adorable.

 

 

 

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To add onto the Sehun discussion - Sehun is my age, we're both adults who don't need babysitters or supervisors, and why would his be a famous chef????? Suke has a full-time job and a restaurant, not only does he make enough money to live well, but he doesn't need a second job in his spare time. Think with your heads people! Sehun might be playful at moments, but this guy does volunteer work in his free time and has amazing work ethic, and he's been a working man for years, he doesn't need someone to monitor him. Can't believe I read this with my very own two eyes. I guess people need some kind of explanation for Suke and Sehun spending all of their free time together, from holidays to charity events, and now it has come to this. 

I hope I'm not posting it twice but it looks like it didn't work the 1st time.

 

So APOLOGIES, I was wondering why noone talked about it when it happened ! 

But well, it explained why he acted so obviously differently and why he had such a soft look ! Thanks for clearing it up !

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On 5/27/2018 at 10:26 AM, Bushi said:

He really is fascinating. I love it when the mask tumbles.

 

For someone who is quite serious and also shy and who doesn't go out of his way to pander to extreme skinship, he becomes really curious/animated around men gyrating and its a repeating pattern. But he's also very subtle and he can be quite tender as well:

 

 

He picked Childish Gambino's 'This Is America' for his song answer when being interviewed by the Mess the other week when he could have given the default/stock answer of Shawn Mendes or Ariana but he selected something rap-based, with a great hook/beat, and super-socially and politically relevant.

 

And whose video (that he's bound to have seen) features a buff n sexy, half-naked man grinding away as its main focal point.  

 

So, yeah.

 

(I still think Y's been out of sorts lately. The sudden weight loss (including in his face) is pretty extreme but seems to have been largely ignored by the fandom, and the chronic shyness on this US trip has been really noticeable too. I hope he's alright.)  

 

 

On 5/27/2018 at 2:21 PM, Free Sungmin said:

 

 

I've noticed the weight loss and the changes. He usually loses weight around comebacks, but this time around he literally melted. He's so skinny nowadays, it's concerning. I've noticed he's been spacing out a lot, more than usual, sometimes it's like he isn't even there. I don't know what's wrong, but something's off. I hope he's alright too and just tired or something, but I worry about his mental health a lot.

 

 

 

On 5/27/2018 at 3:16 PM, Marshmallows said:

I agree with you both but let's not look to deep into this since we don't really know much about his private life.

 

I just wanna say that people who think yoongi is straight cause they think he is intimidating and manly couldn't be more wrong cause first of all sexuality has nothing to do with masculinity and secondly have we been watching the same yoongi?

He is so soft and shy and nothing like the cold guy they think he is.

He is introverted and he struggled a lot.

I feel like his parents are conservative since he said that he went to a christian school when he was younger and he never heard music growing up.

His parents didn't support him with his career choice and if he is in fact queer then I can see how much more he must have struggled with this.

 

On 5/27/2018 at 3:23 PM, Bushi said:

When even super-slim Tae is starting to look wide and buff next to him I think there's something going on. 

 

He cheered up towards the end of the US trip but, as you say, he looked zonked out and in a shell most of the time. I believe he has had issues with depression and anxiety in the past and he is shy speaking English, even though he clearly understands more than he lets on. 

 

But he really didn't look well, or happy, those first few days. Even when he got back to Korea he still seemed a bit flat. I hope Bighit puts all of their health and wellbeing before money and sales. If it's family reasons, they should give him some time off. 

It's really getting out of topic but I really think something's going on too   :

 

 

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Just want to clarify this.

First of all, the comments about Yoongi leaving and JK....

 

 

Oh, I wasn't trying to aim at fans ! I'm a fan. It was just relevant to the topic but I didn't want to especially discuss it in details here. 

And rumor or not, the word has been spread anyway. At least, it wasn't said to his face, but the person who started the rumor used this part of him to make fans defend him anyway, so it's disgusting either way imo. But I'm definitely biased about any Yoongi's topic involving fans, since I am slightly disappointed in the fandom when it comes to him but OT of the OT  

 

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Don't worry about it, the 'stupid' post section is reserved for me, according to the poster who once chaired a thread proudly proclaiming BTS were all F!*%**!  each other in circles. 

 

For the record I thought the post about Jungkook was pretty balanced, though to me him chatting to a stylist/staffer probably isn't really anything out of the ordinary and her running away is just a reaction to the camera panning in and she's obviously not part of the group or its on-camera activities. They probably have strict rules that once filming starts staff should retreat. 

 

If he's seen out with her on the street holding hands or it becomes more obvious they have a nice little thing going, good for them. And of course women can be friendly with men without it having to be dating and same with men-men and women-women. 

 

It's all good.  

They looked guilty and she literaly flew out of view while JK tried to act casually (and failed at it). But I agree with you, and I think staff rules are even harsher to the female ones because of some fans' potential reaction. I personally think they're at least friends, they were often together during the video, apart from the rest of the group and crew. But it doesn't prove they're more than friends.

 

That still kinda debunks the "JK has no interest in women at all" thingy imo. He clearly has/had interest in the female staff (could be a platonic kind but it's up to speculations) and it reminds us that they absolutely are FORBIDDEN from showing interest in a woman publicly. 

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On 6/1/2018 at 12:53 PM, TiffanyHK said:

well tbh i think there are a difference between have dating rumors/be close with a female and show interest in women in eyes of fangirls.

I think when bts Ard close with women, some fans would be upset and jealous because that mean opportunity is taken. But those fans wouldn't mind if they are checking outing a random female idols while they are performing and all. They will even find it funny. Just look comment in YouTube during Normaini bbbmas performance

I think those fans are just a part of a fandom. And not the biggest. Probably even smaller than same-sex shippers or the fans that sees themselves in a relationship with their idol. Companies need to not take a side to be global.

Some arguments to a side or another are stronger than others depending of the situations of course but in the end, it's up to people to choose a (hopefully educated) answer. 

I'm just saying that idols being forbidden from interacting/showing interests in the opposite gender is a thing, just as fanservice is. So it could be an answer to JK not showing interest in women.

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On 6/8/2018 at 11:13 AM, coffee_suga said:

 

 

I think its common for kpop groups to be in the same dorm? Especially when they are still nugu or trainees, tho usually when they get successful the group does go to their own places, at least that's the impression I get from some articles (I don't rlly follow other grps that much aside from watching mvs and listening to their title track). For bts, I think they said somewhere that it was their choice to stay together? Whether for camaraderie, I'm not sure. I remember some twt that a member said that its bec they're a family lol, could be just them being sentimental. Could definitely be because its easier to monitor them, or maybe its also just the fact that they don't spend that much time in their dorm either (bec of tours and stuff)

 

 

lol yeah, I think they all are a bit more shameless

 

on another note, I remember another interview where he touched namjoon's thigh out of nowhere, that in itself is kinda meh, but namjoons reaction looks like he's affected by it and jimin looks kinda smug

 

On 6/8/2018 at 3:27 PM, Eremit said:

that was the previous mess (Jikookers vs JK), this is the new one (Tae stans vs Jimin), I know it's hard to keep up.

 

anyways MinJoon are the flirtiest and that's a fact.

 

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Recently I definitely feel like the flirters are Namjoon/Jimin and Hoseok/Seokjin (this one feels more platonic/fanservice-y overall, but they still look very fond of each other) +Yoongi who seems to have a "crush" on Taehyung (there's something different between them lately ?).

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On 6/13/2018 at 12:16 AM, Bushi said:

We'll have to politely disagree. If Jin was totally oblivious to what was coming why was he so tuned into supporting the person on his left, even before his name was announced. I don't think it was new news. And it makes no sense to me that it would be announced on camera like a bunch of moons aligning where suddenly Jungkook forgot to mention up until now he got a text too. 

 

Its not that their interactions or experiences are not authentic, just I think some of the camera scenarios are rehearsed.  

In spoiler because it's getting OT :

 

I'm all about that "staged reality" thing when it comes to kpop but I think it might be going too far here. Jin looked at Yoongi when he laughed (it was obvious it was him at this point, I knew it was him just from the teaser and I don't know Yoongi personally). Also they're not that young anymore, there's a point in life when you stop oversharing everything. Yoongi could have just thrown that out there himself (about sending it to JK too) because he was getting shy about having a "moment" with Taehyung (it seemed like he was actually). It sure seems like it was a more important moment for Tae than it was for JK though.

 

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I’m not very good at wording my thoughts, but I’ll try. Firstly, and my very weak reason is just because I had a feeling. He seems like he wouldn’t discriminate between genders just by how he approaches situations, he seems to treat both genders the same way. He just seems bisexual to me (and I have bisexual friends, and one of them agreed that they could see it not that that makes it more believable, but I thought I’d mention that).

I agree on so many levels. Minhyuk, Wonho and IM are definitely the ones who ping, especially when interacting with each other. It's the flirty vibe between them.

 

Individually, for me, Wonho is just the most obvious one and I think he's gay. I can't help thinking that he's especially content when men find his body attractive. Then, Minhyuk is also obviously flamboyant and very open about being attracted to his members' manly features but I'm always a little wary of the variety entertainers of a group. They're usually very good at fully playing a character as their own to entertain. I also think they don't choose personas randomly and it's probably close to what he is though, so I still think he's attracted to men (and probably having a blast). But like I said, I'm not sure he's that flamboyant privately. They've been adressed a lot in this thread though so I'm not going to add evidence.

 

Finally, IM actually has his moments. His legendary butt drumming.

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But mostly his legendary biceps (and thighs) biting kink.

I MEAN

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Kihyun and Shownu don't ping me at all. Hyungwon not that much. But Jooheon is interesting sometimes I think.

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Some more Monsta X receipts~

 

https://twitter.com/wonho__/status/787120508676354048

 

https://twitter.com/monstaxbeingay/status/855800273389924353

 

https://twitter.com/monstaxbeingay/status/845695879612960770

 

https://twitter.com/monstaxbeingay/status/832304588787240964

 

Sorry for all the links idk how to embed it won't let me, it just shows up as a dead link?

Isn't it because you embed it with the "twitter" code instead of the "tweet" code ? I made that mistake before ^^

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OMG Coming back after a long time on this thread because Taehyung and Yoongi. Just what is going on ? I had some growing doubts, thought I was reading too much into it, but I'm not the only one after all! Not saying there is actually something, but honestly, there could be?

 

For those who are interested, something definitely changed since BV2 in Hawai. The most telling thing IMO was the members' desire to let go of the usual random pairing selection just to pair them together. Lots of fans thought they didn't like each other before that, that Yoongi even hated Taehyung, and most that they were agreeably not the closest ones. 

After BV2, it felt like Yoongi developped a bit of an unrequited crush. Then, it just kinda escalated into a sus thing. It just doesn't feel like 2 persons getting friends, but genuinely like... a freshly-gotten-together couple? I'm baffled just saying it honestly.

They were barely interacting with each other before (even avoided it, looked almost distressed when they had to and now I wonder if it was because they were like, crushing on each other?)

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Also Taehung said "Why I have to be next to Suga-hyung ? I'm going crazy, really" which proves all my points (Yoongi wasn't that sneaky when he had to do it with Namjoon).

And they're SO different now:

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Just all of these crazy interactions (for a 2015 army) that added in a short period of time and... idk what to make of it.

I cleaned my likes for this. 

 

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Talking about 2 members of the same group having a sus vibe is always tricky. Do that person notice this pariring because they have sus moments or do they see sus moments because they like this pairing ?

Also the stats about same group relationships are just unknown so, delulu ? Well, it happened in Spice Girls (5 members) and Blue (4 members) and it's already 2 out of what, 7 popular groups in the 90s ? That admitted it because they have enough relevancy 10 years later for it to make an article, but not relevant to the point it would ruin their career.

As a rule, I personally am wary with popular ships in a fandom because :

1) It's a ship pushed by the company.

 

Like EXO Chanyeol and Baekhyun, SK Felix and Changbin imo, 17 Jeonghan and Seungcheol,  NCT all Winwin ships, Jungwoo and Lucas, MX Hyungwon and Wonho, GOT7 Mark and Jackson...

2) They're 2 close but platonic friends, comfortable doing fanservice together because it won't mess up their dynamic.

 

Like BTS Maknae line (now), Namjoon and Jin ; 17 Joshua and Jeonghan, Jun and The8, after many thoughts and the recent stuff, Seungkwan and Vernon ; NCT Mark and Haechan, Jeno and Renjun, Johnny and Ten ; GOT7 Hyung line, Bambam and Yugyeom ; MX Jooheon and Changkyun, Shownu and Kihyun ; EXO Kai and DO...

3) ONE member is actually the sus factor of the ship (and not the relationship), because of one-sided crush/attraction.

 

Like 17 Mingyu (with Wonwoo), GOT7 JB (with Youngjae), MX Minhyuk (with Jooheon and Wonho), EXO Baekhyun (with Sehun), BTS Taehyung (with JHope), W1 Daehwi (with Jinyoung), SJ Heechul (with Hangeng)...

There are exceptions that are widely accepted like Verkwan (i don't think they became a couple though), JongKey and YunJae because they exposed their arguments publicly.

I personally have suspicions about EXO Sehun and Tao, 17 Mingyu and Jeonghan, BTS Taehyung and Yoongi (I've seen some people share my doubts). And I mean, I don't know, but I think people can see when it's just delulu shipping or more substantial thinking.

 

For example, I don't even follow EXO and 17 closely. In BTS, I do bias Yoongi (rapline as a whole) but in 3 years following him, I never "shipped" him or thought there was anything suspicious with another member until this year.

 

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i think this is going to get buried amongst the current discussion, but does anyone think minho of stray kids is sus?

 

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@3:03, they’re playing the “i love you†game, and woojin basically grabbed minho’s shoulder, and minho didn’t breathe for a whole 3 seconds

and then...

 

he’s the flirt of the group, but when someone else initiates, he gets shy.

thoughts?

I agree !! I've got my eyes on him, Hyunjin, Jisung and surprisingly maybe, Changbin.

I don"t get any vibe at all from Felix and Jeongin. Not really from Woojin and Seungmin. Chan is still a question mark maybe. 

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On 10/8/2018 at 1:41 AM, marte said:

I wonder, what do you make of Jeno and Jaemin? I mean they’re certainly a very popular ship, and you could say they are pushed by SM. They’re also very good friends. I mean, they met the first day they stepped foot in the company and have been working together ever since. I ask since you mentioned Jeno and Renjun instead. Also, because I’m not all that sure about what goes on with Jeno and Jaemin lol And I would like to hear what other people make of them. I’m inclined to think there’s attraction there from both sides really, but no one really willing to do anything about it. Then again, that sounds so tinhatty. I really don’t know lol

I'm no expert on NCT, but from I've seen, I think they're not exactly both comfortable with doing fanservice together (especially Jeno). So I'm leaning towards the 3rd category : one of them is attracted/has a a bit of a crush while the other isn't. 

On 10/8/2018 at 1:45 AM, Movieslayer said:

I've reviewed the posts about Taehyung and Suga. But what I saw was seems not suspicious to me.. Maybe I'm wrong, but to me, these kind of moments are more suspicious.

Also someone wrote that Suga used to hate Taehyung but they became close after Bon Voyage. I strongly disagree. Suga was always kind to Taehyung, helped him many times and protecting him.

That would be me. But I never said Yoongi hated Taehyung, I said they were not interacting so some fans thought they hated each other before BV2 happened (then noone ever believed that). That's not the same thing. Yoongi indeed has always been supportive of Taehyung (translating "Taehyung's language" and encouraging him to speak) and Taehyung has always been Yoongi's n°1 fanboy. They just always seemed to keep some sort of distance that made people believe that. 

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On 10/8/2018 at 4:23 AM, Movieslayer said:

But Yoongi acts like that against all the members. Considering that they doesn't have much in common interest, I think Tae and Yoongi close enough.

 

For example, do people think that they hate each other because of he continuously bickered with Jimin? No. I mean, They're like my parents lol  I think every member has different dynamics with other members, but they are all very close.

This is getting kinda (?) OT so in spoilers.

 

I don't even know why you're trying to convince me here ? I guess you're not a fan since 2015-mid 2017 because it was a thing no matter what you say. Some fans thought Yoongi hated Taehyung, period.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/6rb94q/yoongi_and_taehyungs_relationship/

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That's what I meant. It was literally made into a fandom joke. That stopped being funny when everyone started thinking it was true. If I remember correctly, it started with usual Yoongi behavior with Taehyung (that wasn't as playful as the ones you showed with Jimin) :

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Also because of AHL, when Yoongi said everyone saw Taehyung as the dumb blonde of the group for example.

And I am not saying I thought Yoongi hated Taehyung. They just weren't really close.

 

 

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You present me these stupid messages as evidence? It's has to be very very small group, because I'm not a new fan, and I've never heard of it. I don't even understand why you carry these stupid peoples unrelevant thoughts here. Majority of our fandom knows how soft, protective and helpful Yoongi is to Taehyung, period. All of the scenes you put in are no different from the typical Yoongi behavor. It's exactly the same behavor when he says, "Go away" to Jimin (not a playful at all) and ignore Taehyung's " fighting!". I quess people forget when Yoongi was sitting all the members were afraid to say something to him lol. I'm not trying to convince you, or try to sink your Taegi theories. But the facts should be said. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whaoh. Listen, I don't even know why you're getting angry. I said "back in 2016, some people thought Yoongi hated Taehyung". That's all I said. I didn't say it was all the fandom, nor a great part of it. But then, you asked who said Yoongi hated Taehyung because "it's not true ! who can say things like that OMG ?". I just tried to clear up what I said when you're the one trying to antagonize me here.

 

Yes, it was a small group, fortunately, but it existed, point made. Like I said, I tried to clear up a misunderstanding. It doesn't serve any kind of "Taegi agenda" you think I'm pushing : the arguments made about Taheyung and Yoongi don't even need that ground to exist.

 

And that's also rich on your part to push a "Taegi agenda" on me when you're literally a Taekook shipper while I mentioned Yoongi had a crush on Taehyung once around 6 months ago, and that I recently noticed their behavior in the ONE (1) post I made this week.

So at this point, I just hope you're trolling.

 

 

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On 10/30/2018 at 2:10 AM, LuckyLuna said:

Changkyun continues to confuse the hell out of me 

 

 

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I'm on the same page. He does seem to like fanservice/skinship with Shownu, Wonho (the 2 most popular ones with guys) and Minhyuk (the one I'm sure is gay). Also Jooheon, but I think they really are best friends. And Jooheon can be confusing in his own way.

On 11/1/2018 at 6:45 PM, Nllybn said:

Guys I know this may seem very random and there’s a big chance u don’t know who I’m talking about (cause he isn’t an idol) but does anyone else find seo janghoon (he is in knowing brother) sus? I know this is random and he was married but has any regular knowing brother fans noticed him around heechul and the cast even joked about him being gay (or smth like that, correct me cause I don’t remember exactly what the joke was but it was in an episode form many weeks back) has anyone noticed as well?

I totally thought the same !!!!!!! At some point, his soft spot and admiration for Heechul really began to look like a crush honestly ! I 

Also, I stumbled upon this video of Leo clearly flirting with his only male back-up dancer (starting around 00:35), because, despite what the caption says, I don't think he panicked at all. 

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I have seen a few videos but I don't know VIXX enough to make an enlighted quess, so could someone tell me what's the tea about them ? As a total VIXX muggle, I have this kind of feeling : Leo / Ravi / N on the sus side and Sanghyuck / Ken / Hongbin on the not really sus.

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Just dropping by to add my 2 cents about the Taeyong discussion.

While I agree he's definitely not straight, I wouldn't be so adamant about him being exclusively gay, or not for that matter (honestly, their interactions with girls are so monitored and controlled in the beginning of their career, how to be sure ?). Because I feel like some people might associate a submissive personality/behavior with "gay" and a dominant one with "bi". Taeyong could also like tomboy-ish, masculine and dominant girls (not saying it's the case, but the possibility exists). 

I'm not trying to throw shade or anything, I'm just a little bit uncomfortable sometimes with the gay/bi difference often made on this basis in the thread and I wanted to put this out there (and I know not everyone thinking Taeyong's gay had this train of thought). ^^

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I feel like they have became more and more free and loose on stage but what tf was that ?? What went through his head?

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Off the current topic but I just saw this and I thought Kai had very interesting dynamics with the dancer :

 

 

 

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On 4/29/2019 at 1:29 AM, littlebee said:

I read the comments apparently he’s one of exos main choreographers. Interesting video I don’t know what to say.

Oh I didn't even look at the comments!

I also thought it was all choreo but the way the dancer almost straddled his thigh or the way Kai put his hands around his waist came off as very intimate compared to the other members' interaction with their assigned dancer. Interesting indeed.

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On 5/15/2019 at 12:52 AM, ccyn said:

Thanks for the reply, I think the same thing tbh. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I really cant remember a time he showed genuine attraction or interest in women either.

 

Do you know which episode it was exactly or where to find it? Thank you

 

Edit: Another gunheechul update (heechul also commented)

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There's also that :

https://www.soompi.com/article/1162215wpp/kim-jong-kooks-mother-complains-male-friendships-getting-way-marriage

The time I thought "Yep he gay"

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Honestly, that's all I'm going to discuss about BTS ships because that shit turns messy every time and non-BTS fans only see the discussion as ship wars. But maybe through DM if anyone's willing ?

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I think it's time for some people to realize Taekook is outdated... It's not 2016/2017 anymore and while some people apparently think they started hiding things, I actually think the group as a whole started trying being more honest with how they present themselves (in the limitations of their idol status and what could create scandals of course).

I am a fan since 2015 and everyone could tell their dynamics and even parts of their personalities changed drastically in 2018 (after they almost disbanded so it makes sense). Everything felt more natural, less forced. They stopped going to k-variety, stopped pushing ships, they literally made an album about acting like the fans wanted them to but they felt like it only earned them fake love, I mean ? The 2018 FESTA was SO heartwarming because you could FEEL they were more natural, more honest about their doubts and that the group as a whole had reached a mutual understanding, some sort of comforting companionship.

Like, to offer an example, Sope was widely popular in 2017 and then nothing. And people realized it's because they weren't as close as the ship made them appear to be. Like during his birthday vlive in 2019, Jhope didn't know Yoongi's studio's password and said it was his 1st time coming (they got new studios around 4/5 months prior) ? When doing the April Fool's Sope disbandment live, they realized they hadn't done anything related to Hwakgae Market since 2017, and whether it was actually relevant to disband when they weren't even doing anything in the 1st place. And yet, noone questioned if they were suddenly hiding.

Why can't fans see it was the same with Taekook ? They clearly were partners in crime during their young days, being the youngest ones and became that popular ship because of their huge personal fandoms, but they were already just as close with Jimin and JHope. Then Taehyung drifted a bit apart from them (everyone knows 2017 was a turning point in his life). Nowadays, it's so obvious Jungkook's closest member is JHope : they literally bought apartments on the same floor the same day in 2018. They're always all over each other. 

The most telling was Jungkook's birthday in 2019 (on Sept 1st) : they were all back to Seoul around Aug 26th (RUN ep filming, with the bottle cap challenge) and only Namjoon (and Jimin) left Seoul after that date, yet only Jimin and JHope celebrated Jungkook's birthday with him. The 3 of them literally said they hadn't seen any member besides each other over the break. When Taehyung mentioned going on a vacation in Jeju, only Jin and Yoongi seemed to know it was with friends and not with family. 

As of my take on BTS sexualities, lately I'm leaning towards this :

Namjoon : he seems very open-minded (since he decided to educate himself on social issues) but he still strikes me as straight

Jin : he was very classical at first (wanted a family with a housewife, able to cook and clean, that type of stuff) but he also seemed to try fitting everyone's expectations quite badly. I think since he became more who he wants to be, it's harder to tell. Even his "questionable" moments are hard to consider because he turns literally everything into a joke. But my take for now is probably straight I think. 

Yoongi : I know most people see him as pan/bi but I'm leaning more towards gay personally. He really had a period where fans (jokingly) said he hated women (not giving in straight fanservice like "What do you look at first on a girl ? - The brand of her clothes/her bag" [I acutally don't remember which answer belongs to him and which belongs to Taehyung but I know these 2 are their answers);  describing his male ideal type in surprising details while staying very vague when it's specifically about a girl (like stating his favorite type of outfit on a girl would be sweatwear or streetwear). Also, most underground (problematic) rappers he used to hang out with (Namjoon included) always rapped about women in derogatory sexual terms, which he never did (even though he had the same problematic vibe to him). I also wonder what went on between Zhoumi and him (his only celeb friend, much older, Yoongi knew his house password and used to barge in unannounced in the middle of the night for "coffee", coffee at night, and then they suddenly stopped mentioning each other, Yoongi also surprised Zhoumi's fellow radio hosts when he used informal speech with him). It's also obvious he's been very much softer since 2018 and started to embrace codes he used to be very uncomfortable with (like twerking for example, which became a Yoongi thing, quite mind-blowing for a 2015 fan, let me tell you).

JHope : Like Jin, it's a bit tricky since he seems quite guarded. He doesn't mind getting physical with men (as long as he knows it's platonic maybe ? It looks like the more Jimin rejected him, the more he went for it, and the more Yoongi or Taehyung went for it, the more he rejected it). Also (and mind me, it's very hypothetical and maybe delulu) but he seems to spend some time alone in Japan in 2018 and he's the best member at japanese. He has a very natural, conversational way of speaking it and despite making mistakes here and there, he's very confident with it, while the 2nd best member, Namjoon, has a much more academic approach. It made me wonder if he had someone in Japan (could be a man or a woman though). Overall, I think he's mostly straight but wouldn't actually mind being with a man sexually, even though he probably doesn't realize it ?

Jimin : The ever-so flirty Jimin. He personally strikes me as bi. It's hard to tell, but when he was much more guarded, he actually used to be flirtier with men, and as he got to be more himself, I feel like he became more comfortable and flirty with women. Jhope used to make him very uncomfortable when he went too far and I feel like they're a bit alike in that regards (the more Jungkook or Yoongi rejected him, the more he went for it, but the more Jhope went for it, the more he rejected him). But I think it's because he prefers to be in charge (not in a sexual way, more like in a relationship dynamic way). Also, I feel like he's maybe the member with the most hook-ups ? Or a partner? The "always late" thing (when asked why, he didn't have an answer and the members promptly moved on) and he didn't have a "fixed" place in 2019, "crashing at friends'" (his words) but maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Taehyung : He really striked me as a "gay kid" in their earlier years. Being apart of a drag competition and overall quite liking dressing up as a girl, crushing easily on older boys like JHope or Yoongi, the Hwarang hyungs. But I also think he tried to brush it off as wanting to be like them. And he does have this thing since early 2018, where he wants to look manlier and such (growing a beard, wanting to be taller, broader, working out, his overall attitude). I don't really know what went on exactly but everyone know 2016-2017 have been especially hard on him (grandparents' death, friend's suicide, his solo acting carrier not going the way he expected...) and he got definitely happier since early 2018. It's also hard to see where his attraction actually lies, because he has naturally a very intense gaze (like he could be blanking out while looking in someone's direction and looks like he wants to eat them, I've noticed female interviewers often misunderstand his attitude as flirting when a fan can see he's actually barely friendly, sometimes amused by their fawning) and can also put on his very sensual stage persona at any given moment just for the sake of it. He's also the best member at bullshitting his way through anything. And he really does have overwhelmingly LGBT-related interests. So... I'm gonna settle with gay, possibly bi.

Jungkook : He seems easily influenced and he has this whole "I'm the strongest/biggest one" pride while clearly being most comfortable with people who take care of him/take the lead (hyungs, noonas ?). As Jhope has very strong natural leadership, I'm not surprised he hovers towards him (just like he used to be impressed by Namjoon). But he's not as afraid of girls as fans think (as seen with female staff or female friends) and in the past, he has flirted with girls ("what's tasty in busan ?"). I think it became easier as he aged (he was literally 16 when he debuted, that's a critical age) and that at first, his flight reaction was just "a hyung, please I need a hyung to feel at ease" kind of thing (which feels more like shyness). Idk I feel like he seriously wouldn't mind being JHope's significant other tbh... But does he know that ? I'm not so sure. Either way, I do think he can have romantic feelings towards men (more than physical attraction) but maybe has never actually acted upon it ?

Edited April 11, 2022 by OptimusPremier

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On 5/11/2020 at 1:21 PM, BYULTENHWALL said:

jk wasnt at a gay club, it was a straight club and the army that revealed it said it was a straight club, armys are being dumb and think there are only gay clubs in itaewon and spreading that he was at a gay club. He was at a straight bar with his friends around the time korea said anyone that was in itaewon at a certain period should get tested. karmys are worried he's going to get dragged for not practising social distancing.

EDIT : I hadn't the full picture so my answer is outdated !

Edited April 11, 2022 by OptimusPremier

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SK does feel more homophobic lately. I mean Heechul suddenly has a publig gf and denies gay rumors for the 1st time in 16 years (I have still trouble thinking he's not gay tbh, like Gunhee literally posted a video of Heechul in bed with him naked/half-naked). Then freaking Jo Kwon starts denying gay rumors for the 1st time in 12 years... Hong Seokcheon was also very present on TV, but he's seen less and less since 2019. Now the Itaewon witch hunt...

These recent years, there's been growing support for the LGBT community (especially from the younger generations, like 40 and less) and a few actors and singers started to come out, which would make the Christians mad. It's also pretty obvious there's been a on-growing fight since 2018 (more and more Pride parades in the country, more and more attendees, more and more lawsuits against the government for LGBT rights, more and more out LGBT citizens on social media VS more and more agressive Christians' oppositon) but it's also pretty clear Christians still hold the lobbying power (old men, a I right ?). SK's government is seriously rotten with corruption (a lot of countries are, but they're top-tier), that's why laws and medias would relay their ideology.

But I don't think it represents the public opinion, I really don't think South Koreans are actually more homopobic, on the contrary. And that's the reason why Christians are attacking the LGBT community on all fronts. This battle goes on par with the youth's growing rejection of confucian traditions (the other 2 big issues being sexism and economic inequality leading to academic/professional pressure). The 2022 presidential election might bring changes. I sure do hope so...

It got a bit political, sorry...

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10 hours ago, blurrr said:

Totally agree. I mean, if only one of them, Jo Kwon or Heechul, started denying it for the first time in so many years, I could doubt that... But two of them? Like two gay kings? Seems a bit strange 

 

10 hours ago, lighterxx said:

perhaps people against LGBT are atm in powerful positions, and they might seem like a threat? but im just saying this with my own tinfoil hat 

I don't think they've been pressured by powerful lobbys into denying (like they probably don't care that much about kpop idols ?), but I do wonder if they (and maybe their companies) felt the need to, like maybe there is some sort of behind-the-scenes "witch hunt" going on in the entertainment field as well ? Aaah, maybe you're right and we're heading into conspiracy territory (even though not all conspiracy theories are wrong). I mean Heechul's denial could be explained by his growing popularity in variety shows, but Jo Kwon ? The same Jo Kwon who said that in 2018 :

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/05/stop-discriminating-jo-kwon-protects-lgbtq-fans-shuts-homophobic-comments-7606747/

It's just so surreal...