Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Ringo]

What? When? Where?

 

~22:29

 

Also around ~31:17 Xiumin says he wouldn't pick Tao, though he doesn't give a reason.

 

I think Xiumin and Chen could find out through observation alone, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sehun told them both.

 

.....can you elaborate? 

 

This, maybe?

 

Edited February 19, 2017 by Ringo

[Ringo]

He basically outed him, and Ryeowook only made the situation worse lmao they did him dirty

 

Don't worry, Sehun basically outed himself the next year in front of a live audience and people still didn't believe him. 

[Ringo]

 

Honestly...... I think Xiumin himself didnt' expect Sehun to say that.   On the contrary, I feel like he tried to "save" the situation but Sehun went even more extra with his words. He even went to playfully hit him or something, lmao. I feel like that part of Sehun's speech was completely unplanned. An Improvisation. 

 

 

I think Xiumin didn't expect Sehun to say that either. He looked surprised that Sehun said it, but not at what he said. Baekhyun as well. They've known for quite a while.

[Ringo]

Heechul would be proud.

 

Who do you think he learned it from? 

[Ringo]

Yep I think the same. I feel like he didn't expect him saying it like that at all lol. It was risky. I really don't get people who think it was something ~planned or has been said "just to soften male fanbase". Like, what? Such things often cause controversies which is kind of really unnecessary... Well and nothing stopped him from agreeing about the "fans" part and leading the talk towards that direction - but nah. Lmao. Anyways, the best way to tell the truth without receiving the "damage" - to tell it as a joke. And he knew people would take it this way.

And well, Baekhyun ... 

 

 

Baekhyun look like he about to drop down and give him head right there on the stage. 

[Ringo]

 

 

One of these days, he's probably going to. 

 

Baek has a soft spot for Sehun. Glad he got over his hopeless crush for Chanyeol. 

 

 

Man, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd gotten each other off before. Not dating, just a "you're hot, I'm hot, let's fuck." 

 

Chanyeol and Baekhyun are strange these days.

 

 

What Exo knows/thinks about Baek's sexual orientation then, i wonder? I mean, we discussed Sehun already, but what about BBH and Suho, the prime suspects of bi 

 

Who doesn't know Baekhyun's sexuality in EXO, more like. 

Suho was more lowkey about it, but all the members must know by now. 

Edited February 20, 2017 by Ringo

[Ringo]

Come through Baekhyun, equal opportunity employer ass    That thirst tho, I'd stare like that too 

 

FIFY

 

 

   

 

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i mean the water bottle/kiss one isn't confirmed but this? damn tae 

 

Dang, that's a flirty gesture if I ever saw one. 

 

That's BTS, right?

[Ringo]

I don't think I get your joke

 

 

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That's what I get for posting while I'm half asleep.

 

I think this video has been on the thread before, but I came across it again and was reminded of how flirty this came across (considering body language), especially towards the end with Kai's eyes flickering around his face/neck

 

These two...

 

[Ringo]

Ya, I can imagine Baekhyun and Sehun being FWB. They're too comfortable with each other and I don't see anything beyond friendship and sexual tension. 

 

Chanbaek are Strange? Interesting...how so? 

 

Yeah, there's no tension indicative of a possible romantic interest that I see, just an easygoing friendship and a big ball of pent up sexual energy lol. I imagine it's convenient for some non straight members of an idol group to relieve stress with each other.

 

I'm not entirely sure myself and before I would have said nothing about them stood out to me, but, since early 2016, their dynamic seems different. There was always this weird tension between them despite being friends, but, since last year, it seems like it's not there anymore. They seem more genuine towards each other now. It's not a bad thing.

[Ringo]

 

 

I could tell  Seungjun and MJ before they even spoke, but it took me a minute to recognize Shownu. I don't know much about SF9, so I looked at the comments and people are saying it's Dawon? Does he ping at all?

 

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Also, this is a bit OT again, but...

 

Remember how a few weeks ago I posted about a new Thai BL series that was casting, and one of the people auditioning (Newyear) was from a popular Thai gay couple (Both and Newyear)?

 

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Apparently he got a lot of support and passed to the final round of people auditioning for the role, which was good, until the casters suddenly released a statement saying that they only want heterosexual men playing the parts in their gay drama.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el6WuNTxBh0

 

So now people are pissed and saying they only used Newyear as a marketing ploy.

 

"All six actors must be straight men . . . we think straight men will suit the series better."

 

So, let me see if I'm understanding this correctly.

 

They rejected any gay applicants because they thought straight men

 

would be more suited to play roles in a gay drama.

 

[Ringo]

Or you know...it's just fanservice, because he knew he was on camera. 

 

I'm sure he was playing it up for the cameras, but all the same, there's a limit to fanservice. Hard to imagine a guy who wasn't at least curious doing something like that, let alone with a coworker he has to see everyday.

[Ringo]

I guess I just don't see it that way. Fanservice is a part of the job, and what is the limit? Especially once you notice how a bunch of your fangirls wet themselves whenever they see you do something even slightly suggestive with your group members. He knew he was on camera, and knew what he was doing. 

 

I'm not saying he isn't some sort of queer, just that I don't see how this is irrefutable proof of him being a big ole gay. Like he pretended to do something suggestive on a Vlive stream that he knew he was on. 

 

The limit is your own comfort. Why do something you're seriously uncomfortable with that's also completely unnecessary just to make your fangirls scream when there are a million other ways to get the same result? It's far from irrefutable proof, I already agreed, but it's hard to imagine a guy who was uncomfortable or disgusted by the thought doing something so unnecessary. 

 

If it were jpop, I might not think too hard on it, but kpop fanservice is so tame in comparison.

[Ringo]

You mean the bike rides and the recent vacation? Ya, they're more comfortable with each other compared to 2014, or even 15? Which is why I thought Baekhyun had finally gotten over his crush. Like...that barrier has finaly been lifted. I would have thought their recent closeness means they're finally together (in whatever capacity) if I wasn't so convinced that Chanyeol is straight.

 

Yeah, whatever it is, they've become closer. Like I said, it's not a bad thing, just different.

Chanyeol, eh... he's always seemed mostly straight, though he does have some questionable moments. My knowledge of him is very limited lol. 

[Ringo]

Hey, guys! I've seen the commom sense about EXO's Chen is to say he's a sweet straight guy. But really, speaking as someone who knows straight guys...

How come he would be THAT sensitive? I mean, not judging but the boy's even a BeyHive lmao.

Now, sharing some of my personal thoughts, he's not very popular, and there's no need to do a fan service for popularity. All the boys point him as the mother of the group.

He's a virgo, and is probably the most introspective member since Kris left. It's easy to find videos on the web where he would feel ashamed and would hug and hold hands with the leader just to hide from the camera.

Still about Suho, i know a lot of people want to believe he had something with Xiumin, but the facts are: they were the only Korean members in China for like 2 years. It's impossible not to get a real close friendship.

With Suho, i see he's close even behind cameras but they were never really friends.

 

As you can see here, it's not even jokes between each other, so, i'm not saying they might have had something, but the way Chen looks at him is really doubtious, specially cause he doesn't think he's being recorded. 

To the cameras, though, Chen said once his goal as an EXO member was to take care of Suho.

Anyway, despite ships and otp fights, my point is. Everyone here should meet around thousands of people, most of them straight. But do you really know any straight guy like that?

 

Holy shit, you know straight guys? I thought they were only a myth. I've tried to capture one before by luring them out with Bud Light and sportsball and it hasn't worked. Tips?

 

 

You're contradicting yourself a lot and I have no idea if you're being serious, but I never saw anything between Suho and Chen. I don't think Chen likes men sexually at all and Suho wouldn't date another EXO member. 

[Ringo]

Heads up! A good read here.

 

http://askakorean.blogspot.my/2009/10/i-love-you-man.html

 

Thanks, that was an interesting read. The other article he links to, "Man Dates," is a good read, too. I didn't realize how many of these unspoken social rules I follow subconsciously...

[Ringo]

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To think there are people who believe Baekhyun to be straight with those A level bj skills.

[Ringo]

Jinyoung is the one member in GOT7 I personally 100% believe is gay, similarly I 100% believe Jackson is bi/pan. I mean, I can't be "sure" sure, but they both give me those vibes. 

 

SIDENOTE, I wonder who thought of and then chose this photo to put out in the world 

 

 

Someday people will stop sleeping on King Jackson. 

[Ringo]

I have a question. Since a lot of the posts and speculations of the possibly queer idols involves multiple members from the same group... What two idols do you believe to be queer in the same group but have never had or did a thing with one another? Bonus~ Do you think it made them closer as friends because of being in the same situation? Because just like boys and girls can be friends, so can two queer people of the same sex.

 

Most of them actually...

 

Taemin and Jonghyun

Taemin and Key

Kai and Sehun

D.O. and Sehun, Baekhyun, Tao, Suho, Xiumin

Xiumin and D.O, Kai, Sehun, Baekhyun, Suho

Suho and all Exo members

Yunho and Junsu

Heechul and any current Suju member... lbr they're not his type 

Ryeowook and Mimi, Sungmin

Sungmin and Mimi

 

 

Probably more but I'm too tired to think of any right now.

[Ringo]

Did someone mention Exo? I've been summoned.

Including ex-exo: gay - Sehun, Tao, Luhan (i know, it's unpopular opinion in this thread but to me, Luhan is as obvious as the other two)

very bi - BBH, Suho, Xiu 

bicurious heteros - Lay, PCY

heterostraight - Jongdae

no idea, could be anything - Kai, Ksoo. and i don't even ship them together, they're just equally confusing individually. Kai "pings" as hell when he's with Taemin. 

 

edit: i knew this post is gonna get negged, i knew it. 

 

And Kris never existed 

 

Agree except for Kyungsoo, who I've thought of as gay for a while now, and Kai, who pings sometimes but not with anyone specific. Still have no fucking clue with Kai and that bugs the piss out of me. He's the Minho of EXO for me.

 

Suho and Xiumin being straight... pffffft 

 

So much negging in the thread lately, probably by specific fans, if I'm guessing correctly. Don't let it bother you too much. Have an upvote.

[Ringo]

Kris who? I don't know her

I'm remnants-of-Exo-M biased and pay a lot of attention to them and every time someone calls Minseok straight, a unicorn dies. Today he got called asexual and like a herd of unicorns died from that and i just couldn't keep my opinion to myself anymore.

 

Savage. 

 

Shh, no tears... only Minseok now. 

 

 

As a bi guy myself, Joon has always been pretty obvious to me. He's outright said he wanted to marry a male idol when he was in high school, not to mention when he said that he liked a female idol because she smiled like GD: (skip to 6:16)

 

 

 

He liked to talk about what aspects of men women found the most sexy, but he always had very specific examples that you could tell he came up with himself from his own attractions. He also had a weird tendency to accuse people of having crushes on him when it was clear that he liked them, whether they were male or female. During one of his variety show appearances and after just explaining what women in their 20s and 30s find sexy about men, he did a pole dance and made sure to try to wow the male guests and well as the females:

 

 

 

There's a lot more on him but it's probably in this thread already, albeit a ways back.

 

That pole dancing video. 

[Ringo]

i think there's a sort of line to be aware of when applying gay stereotypes as "proof" that someone is gay. like with sehun—pretty much all of us can agree he isn't straight, and a lot of that does have to do with his mannerisms. but that's used as a way to support other evidence of his sexuality, rather than being the sole reason why he's suspected. same can be said for key, jo kwon, or topp dogg's hansol. and i do agree that a lot of the time, these mannerisms can even be the basis of your suspicions: not related to male idols, but i find it impossible to see amber as anything other than a lesbian, even though she hasn't had as many explicit "moments" as others.

 

on the other hand, a lot of people still seem to have a bias—unintentional, but still there—to assume that if someone doesn't exhibit those characteristics, they must not be gay. this isn't said with anyone in particular in mind (i haven't been around for long enough to attach opinions with specific accounts, to be completely honest) but i think it's something to be aware of. i'm guilty of it too, like how i always seem to hesitate before saying jackson might not be straight, despite the fact that his actions say otherwise. if jackson behaved or looked more like jinyoung, for example, a lot more of us would feel comfortable calling him gay/bi. but we have this idea that someone must be flamboyant in order to be gay, because that's been ingrained in us, and while i do 100% agree that stereotype has its truth, it shouldn't be held to such a high standard in all situations—especially when someone doesn't fit the behaviour, which is used as a justification that he's just joking around when he fawns over boys (something people say about jackson and hani, for that matter, who has never met a girl she hasn't thirsted over but tends to face the "you're too beautiful to be a lesbian!" mindset)

 

HOLD UP, is that seriously a thing lesbians get? 

[Ringo]

i'm a lesbian and it's a serious thing people say lol. if you google it there are a million articles written about it, it's a real gross phenomenon

 

 

 

Yes, apparently because I am pretty and wear feminine things and have long hair, people think it's impossible that I like girls.

 

 

 

 

So I googled this... what the fuck I got results by the millions. 

 

 

 

Sometimes I forget people believe in a lot of really dumb shit. 

 

 

[Ringo]

 

 

Heenim plz

[Ringo]

I agree with this 100%.  When I was 9/10, I realized that unlike the guys around me, I wasn't looking at girls, but instead looking AT THEM (the guys).

 

As an Asian-American in an extremely Christian and conservative family, it was immensely hard to "fit in" and to come to terms with my family's homophobic stance.  However, because of the media and it's growing tolerance and representation of homosexual content, seeing characters, actors, films, etc... whom I could relate with has helped me A LOT to love myself and my family regardless of their viewpoint.  

 

Thus, in my opinion, an idol coming out on their OWN merit would be HUGE because like me, so many young boys try and look for others LIKE them and others who they can relate with.  It may not be talked about often, but representation matters and DOES help, even if its minuscule and I hope that through K-pop goes in the right direction: tolerance, acceptance, and open-mindedness and the willingness to tackle often taboo subjects that many Asian cultures may be accepting of or exposed to.

 

Bruh... I feel you. 

 

I'm glad knowing that lgbt issues becoming more open helped you come to terms with things. It helped me too. I legit didn't know being anything but straight was even an option until I was well into my teens. Nobody talked about those sorts of things where I grew up, and my family is... well, half of them are quite conservative and being catholics probably adds to that. I've said this before, but my neighborhood was so conservative and catholic that seeing two guys hold hands and two girls kissing just blew my fucking mind when I was finally able to expand my horizons, so to speak. 

 

So I agree that representation helps immensely. I've always said this- it shouldn't matter that someone is lgbt, but the fact is that it does matter, and, until that changes, this is something that's necessary.

[Ringo]

So I just saw this thread today and wondered if it could be related to his members   

 

 

 

 

 

So are those hickeys or something else? I have no idea so that's why I'm asking you guys.

 

Also BigHit should fire that makeup artist they ain't hiding shit.

 

Actually, judging from its coloration, that bruise has been there for some time. I ain't know where he got it, but that's a bruise for sure lol.