Which male idols do you think are gay?

[BeatGotSica]

Thanks for the video link! Sweet Minho

 

 

lololol

 

Though don't teen boys often get erections for no particular reason?

 

 

Bless this post. I couldn't even read the rest of that other one because damn

Thanks I'm a heterosexual woman who just lurks around this thread because I have no business posting here but that really bothered me haha

Edited April 2, 2017 by BeatGotSica

[Mysterymindme]

That BTS cover got me like  

 

The one cosplaying Jimin was Hyojung! (the leader & owner of the channel)  

Edited April 2, 2017 by Mysterymindme

[Livia]

Well, that would be incest, and greatly disturbing on top of it.

 

Siblings are blood related, wheras idols are not. You will have a hard time finding anyone being sexually attracted to their own sibling. They are completely different to begin with.

People usually don't feel sexual attraction to people they consider 'family'. Simple as that. Be it their actual siblings or people they grew up with. It's just Westermarck effect in action, that gives it a disturbing feel, and not a fact whether they're actually sharing some genetic stuff or not.

Either way, idols become trainees in their early teens, which is too late for the Westermarck effect to work.

[EleanorofAquitaine]

For whatever reason, Heechul has never pinged me, personally, even with so many people here having him down as an absolute epidome of "gayness".

 

 

I don't know about you, but does none of his whole act ever struck you as ...charade?

 

 

To me, he actually comes across as arrogant (in a nicer way, but not always) rather than sassy - not that those two don't come along hand in hand at times, but with Heechul, I never had the impression of someone attracted to teh same gender. Sure, he may say and do things, that some people find more than questionable - I know his statements regarding the whole matter are as legendary as is his perfect copy dance of girgroups groups of the last decade, he has a sharp wit about him, which he, even if he uses it tto insult rather than to try and find a better balance.

 

Many take his "bashing" of women, and his general harsh behavior towards them as a sure sign of distain for the fairer sex in geenral - but I disagree. Heechul doesn't cut me as the kind of guy who would treat a woman well to beging with, but it doesn't make him gay, just because he does.

It doesn't make him straight either - but I'm just saying, doesn't it ever seem to you that his whole "gay" act is nothing else but a charade?

 

And just to make this very clear, this is in no way meant to dismiss his sexual orientation - I don't care either way, whether he is gay or straight, good for him - but it's just the impression I get from him. He seems to have a good time fooling arouund, and the idea that people believe him to be gay seems nothing else but a source of amusement for him.

 

He strikes me as the type of person who doesn't mind being talked about, as long as it gets him some attention. SInce he is neither, known for his singing or dancing or even acting. He seems to be very content with the position he holds in the industry, and seems to know, that he is quite an uniquat among them.

Better being known for an unpredictable personality, isn't it?

Heechul seems to like it just fine, and there is some good humour in him as well. Usually, when an idol gets older they try and breach out in many different branches, to try and get the most money before their time in the spotlight comes to an end, and somehow, I always got the impression that Heechul doesn't take any of this "glamour" world all that seriously - he never seemed to take it all that seriously to begin with.

 

Will you believe me when I tell you that, despite the tons and tons of amount from "gay" behavior there is about Heechul, he never pinged me - AT ALL - in any of them. Not even when he was kissing those other members, or during his crazy dance-off with Jo Kwon.

 

Heck - even if he were to come straight and say it out loud - I wouldn't believe this guy.

 

Mark my words, he doesn't take any of this too seriously, and even if half of his family thought he were gay, I highly doubt he would mind it.

I can't believe the whole Heechul discussion actually distilled down to this pure moment. No dancing around, just as it is. 

Heechul: I'm GAY

blackberry2000: nah fam, you're not. you said you like girls on a variety show in 2010.

Heechul: But i-

blackberry2000: no

 

That's... that's the spirit

[Leland22]

Well, that would be incest, and greatly disturbing on top of it.

 

Siblings are blood related, wheras idols are not. You will have a hard time finding anyone being sexually attracted to their own sibling. They are completely different to begin with.

I think you're missing my point. In conservative countries there may be a similar amount of social stigma against homosexual relations. My point is that we can't simply dismiss the possibility of homosexual attraction because people live together under stressful conditions (cont.)

 

People usually don't feel sexual attraction to people they consider 'family'. Simple as that. Be it their actual siblings or people they grew up with. It's just Westermarck effect in action, that gives it a disturbing feel, and not a fact whether they're actually sharing some genetic stuff or not.

Either way, idols become trainees in their early teens, which is too late for the Westermarck effect to work.

Yes and people can be adopted or placed into foster care. They can be adopted in their early teens which you have acknowledged is too late for the Westermarck effect to affect them. Do we think it's common for people who are adopted or are in foster care in their teens to have sexual or romantic interactions with their adopted/foster siblings? Of course not. The point is that living together under stressful conditions is being used as an "excuse" to avoid acknowledging that some will have more of an inclination to engage in homosexual acts/relationships and some will not and there's no need for such mental gymnastics. I also want to add that some of the people we've discussed actually had short training periods or were late additions to their groups.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Leland22

[ooo]

 

Looks like I was right, gunheechul met in japan.

Edited April 2, 2017 by ooo

[blackberry2000]

On 4/2/2017 at 2:47 AM, DICKRIDE said:

Thank you for the laugh.

 

 

 

On 4/2/2017 at 9:34 AM, EleanorofAquitaine said:

I can't believe the whole Heechul discussion actually distilled down to this pure moment. No dancing around, just as it is. 

Heechul: I'm GAY

blackberry2000: nah fam, you're not. you said you like girls on a variety show in 2010.

Heechul: But i-

blackberry2000: no

 

That's... that's the spirit

 

Don't put words into my mouth I never said.

 

That would be first.

 

Second, read my post again, if you need to, because I explained very well why I believe that Heechul is putting on a show and nothing else. If you like to be a child about it, don't expect me to take you seriously.

 

On 4/2/2017 at 9:36 AM, Leland22 said:

I think you're missing my point. In conservative countries there may be a similar amount of social stigma against homosexual relations. My point is that we can't simply dismiss the possibility of homosexual attraction because people live together under stressful conditions (cont.)

 

Yes and people can be adopted or placed into foster care. They can be adopted in their early teens which you have acknowledged is too late for the Westermarck effect to affect them. Do we think it's common for people who are adopted or are in foster care in their teens to have sexual or romantic interactions with their adopted/foster siblings? Of course not. The point is that living together under stressful conditions is being used as an "excuse" to avoid acknowledging that some will have more of an inclination to engage in homosexual acts/relationships and some will not and there's no need for such mental gymnastics. I also want to add that some of the people we've discussed actually had short training periods or were late additions to their groups.

 

I

 

A simple hug must be a sign of some sort of sexual attraction, even if the guys hugging are 100 percent straight.

 

(sexual attraction between family members has absolutely nothing to do with any of my posts, so I won't even go there)

Edited February 10, 2022 by blackberry2000

[Livia]

I can't believe the whole Heechul discussion actually distilled down to this pure moment. No dancing around, just as it is. 

Heechul: I'm GAY

blackberry2000: nah fam, you're not. you said you like girls on a variety show in 2010.

Heechul: But i-

blackberry2000: no

 

That's... that's the spirit

Heechul: snatching some girls' weaves

somе fans: look, sexual tension

[blackberry2000]

Heechul: snatching some girls' weaves

somе fans: look, sexual tension

 

Well, not all of us take an obvious fake act as truth.

 

There is a reason so many people are doubting him in particular. See, you have guys like TEN and KEY and also TAO and Sehun, who scream gay, for lack of a better word. All of them have said themselves to like girls at one point or another, and yet, you won't find anyone over the age of 14 who will actually believe that.

 

Heechul, on the other hand, goes around kissing guys, holding hands, posting dubios pictures, and yet, me, and many more don't believe him.

 

It's not the things he says or does, but the way HOW he says and does them that seem so fake to me.

[EleanorofAquitaine]

 

Don't put words into my mouth I never said.

 

That would be first.

 

Second, read my post again, if you need to, because I explained very well why I believe that Heechul is putting on a show and nothing else. If you like to be a child about it, don't expect me to take you seriously.

I assure you, I never took your sentiments redarding Heechul seriously in the first place - it is too ridiculous to begin with. At first I thought that it's an april fools joke, but when I realised that you're being serious i didn't even know where to begin so I just cracked a dumb joke. For which i apologize - perhaps, I should have come up with a better one. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by EleanorofAquitaine

[Frogurt]

 

Have some old thirsty Jackson:

 

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[Livia]

Well, not all of us take an obvious fake act as truth.

 

There is a reason so many people are doubting him in particular. See, you have guys like TEN and KEY and also TAO and Sehun, who scream gay, for lack of a better word. All of them have said themselves to like girls at one point or another, and yet, you won't find anyone over the age of 14 who will actually believe that.

 

Heechul, on the other hand, goes around kissing guys, holding hands, posting dubios pictures, and yet, me, and many more don't believe him.

 

It's not the things he says or does, but the way HOW he says and does them that seem so fake to me.

You're not gonna fuckin believe this but outside of the thread there's aplenty of people well into their adult years who think all these guys are straight. And I don't see the difference between all of guys you mentioned, except your oppa isn't gay attitude towards Heechul. The mere idea of Heechul faking his homosexuality for questionable benefits of... being scandalous and edgy or whatever. But maybe he's just a funny jester like that i don't even know! Even tricked a guy into actual dating and relationship. Who's gonna tell Gunhee that Heechul is straight?

[blackberry2000]

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Edited April 3, 2017 by blackberry2000

[blackberry2000]

hmmm....double post, and my nice gifs didnt even show up. Shame.

Edited April 2, 2017 by blackberry2000

[Leland22]

I am absolutely not missing any point - because I NEVER once said that close living quarters exclude attraction between idols.

My point was, that BECAUSE of their super close livingconditions idols are usually much more affectionate towards each other than most young adults (and even families) around us, which in turn a lot of people mistake for gay attraction (even when the PDA is strictly non sexual). This includes non-sexual as well as sexual displays of affection.

 

Of course they can be attracted to each other, but that wasn't my point.

 

But many people on here seem to take the NON-sexual affection between idols as a proof to their attraction to one another all too often. They say things like "Ohh, but the guys in my school never did that, so idol a and idol B must be gay!" or "Guys don't hold hands like that - they must be attracted to one another."

 

A simple hug must be a sign of some sort of sexual attraction, even if the guys hugging are 100 percent straight.

 

(sexual attraction between family members has absolutely nothing to do with any of my posts, so I won't even go there)

K. So we're doing sass, I guess? You absolutely missed MY point from my original comment to you as I've already explained but that's neither here nor there. I also never said you said that close living conditions exclude attraction between idols (what?) You've reworded your stance but the point is still the same: You're using the conditions of idol groups as an excuse to dismiss suspicions of homosexuality, homosexual attraction and/or homosexual activity. If you're implying that we are seeing homosexual attraction/acts/tendencies that aren't there or are overestimating the frequency of them but are instead seeing what you deem to be mere closeness that is the product of their conditions (which you are) then yes, you are doing precisely what I've said that you are doing.

 

Bluntly 1. The majority that I personally have seen here aren't basing their thoughts on simple hugs or whatever other BS.

2. Most of us are well aware that the South Korean culture and the idol culture are very different from others and as such we should have a different "threshold" when viewing interactions between people within those cultures. This was discussed -- in detail -- before you arrived. You are preaching to the choir and doing so in a condescending manner.

3. It is not illogical to make a reasonable guess at what might be the norm even in extreme conditions as some of us are or are close with athletes, members of the armed forces, people who have gone to military school or other boarding schools, etc. Yes, we can guess that straight individuals might not do certain things even if they were in idol groups. No, that would not be based on hugs or holding hands.

4. For many of us the physical aspect is merely a piece of the puzzle in our thoughts/suspicions.

 

I have more to say but this is already getting longer than I wanted.

 

tl;dr: We already know. Most here don't do what you've mentioned. The type of posters you mentioned don't post here in great enough numbers to justify the lecture.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Leland22

[blackberry2000]

On 4/2/2017 at 11:51 AM, EleanorofAquitaine said:

I assure you, I never took your sentiments redarding Heechul seriously in the first place - it is too ridiculous to begin with. At first I thought that it's an april fools joke, but when I realised that you're being serious i didn't even know where to begin so I just cracked a dumb joke. For which i apologize - perhaps, I should have come up with a better one. 

 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by blackberry2000

[EleanorofAquitaine]

@blackberry, so what about JeongCheol? Are they real?

[blackberry2000]

On 4/2/2017 at 12:25 PM, Leland22 said:

K. So we're doing sass, I guess? You absolutely missed MY point from my original comment to you as I've already explained but that's neither here nor there. I also never said you said that close living conditions exclude attraction between idols (what?) You've reworded your stance but the point is still the same: You're using the conditions of idol groups as an excuse to dismiss suspicions of homosexuality, homosexual attraction and/or homosexual activity. If you're implying that we are seeing homosexual attraction/acts/tendencies that aren't there or are overestimating the frequency of them but are instead seeing what you deem to be mere closeness that is the product of their conditions (which you are) then yes, you are doing precisely what I've said that you are doing.

 

Bluntly 1. The majority that I personally have seen here aren't basing their thoughts on simple hugs or whatever other BS.

2. Most of us are well aware that the South Korean culture and the idol culture are very different from others and as such we should have a different "threshold" when viewing interactions between people within those cultures. This was discussed -- in detail -- before you arrived. You are preaching to the choir and doing so in a condescending manner.

3. It is not illogical to make a reasonable guess at what might be the norm even in extreme conditions as some of us are or are close with athletes, members of the armed forces, people who have gone to military school or other boarding schools, etc. Yes, we can guess that straight individuals might not do certain things even if they were in idol groups. No, that would not be based on hugs or holding hands.

 

I have more to say but this is already getting longer than I wanted.

 

tl;dr: We already know. Most here don't do what you've mentioned. The type of posters you mentioned don't post here in great enough numbers to justify the lecture.

 

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Edited February 10, 2022 by blackberry2000

[Leland22]

And what point would that be now?

 

I am not dismissing it, again, don't put words into my mouth I never said, because you won't find it anywhere in my original post. I have elaborated on this many times, so you obviously did not read my post carefuly enough. You say it yourself "I never said you said that close living conditions exclude attraction between idols"-----well, then what are you saying exactly, when your following sentence is AGAIN saying just that?

(if it wasn't clear enough, I mean the idols living together can of course have an attraction towards each other)

 

I am not preaching, if you get that impression, well, I can't really do anything to prevent people from reading the post the way they like to.

 

1. Here is where we differ, because that is exactly what I see a lot of people doing here. Many people on this thread do just that. The see a hug and = gay. They see hand holding =gay.

2. I am saying the same exact things so, again, what is your point here?

 

3. Again, I am saying the same thing, only that my english is not up on par with yours. The main point I am trying to make here is that A LOT of people do just that. They take these absolutely non- sexual displays of affection as a sure sign of attraction, or jump to conclusions that a sexually frustrated or turned on straight guy who choses to "grope" another member in order to release some of that tension must automatically be gay.

 

Most posters I mean who do just that post here so often that it cought my attention: To them, there are no straight members left anymore, because everyone must be gay.

You literally quoted the post to you and Livia where I explained the point. Asking what the point is will not change that there is a point and that it was explained to you. *shrug*

 

I understand that you can't see the difference between essentially saying that something is impossible and, in instances, using something as an excuse to dismiss it but I can't help that as I've already explained it to you. For instance, a government may not deny that smog is possible but they may decide to call it something else or use varying definitions dismiss it at times or even on average. There is a difference. Again, If you're implying that we are seeing homosexual attraction/acts/tendencies that aren't there or are overestimating the frequency of them but are instead seeing what you deem to be mere closeness that is the product of their conditions (which you are) then yes, you are doing precisely what I've said that you are doing.

 

"Preaching to the choir" is a figure of speech.

 

1. How much of the thread have you read? Legitimately asking.

2. Again, asking what the point is will not change that there is a point and that it was explained to you lol. It is obvious that the point is that we already know and are taking steps to avoid this pitfall. In other words, we don't need your help to address something that is already being addressed.

3. So what exactly do you mean by groping? That word often has a sexual connotation so I'm curious.

 

In closing, most of us ignore the posters who do this or admonish them directly. The issue I have with your comment is that it feels more like a blanket statement and it really did feel condescending.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Leland22

[25%Cotton]

long:

Well, what's funny is that I see naive people here who go by that exact mentality.

You post your little gifs of a straight idol, and take every action they do as a proof of their gayness, when more often than not, it's them fooling around for fun, or simply being horny as heck.

 

But no, with those guys it's -------------------------- GAY! Oh y god, I knew he was gay! He touched a finger - GAY. There are no inbetweens for them.

 

Why do you believe there are so many straight guys who watch gay porn? Because it turns them on. It's the sexual act itself that turns them on, no matter the gender involved. (and many of them even comment that with straight porn the woman involved usually does not seem to be very into it, or to enjoy it at all)

 

I assume you too went to a school somewhere in time - and boys usually start to act out at 14/15 because hormones literally drive them crazy, while girls remain calm in comparison.

Now, put together a bunch of boys, make them spend pretty much every minute of the day together, with no contact with girls whatsoever, so that when puberty hits and their sexual drive is coming knocking at the door full force they will eventually turn to each other for some sort of release ( gay or straight).

 

 

Of course you ARE not attracted to your brother or sister! That's a given!! No matter the name you like to use for it - what are you people even on about???

 

 

Don't put words into my mouth I never said.

 

That would be first.

 

Second, read my post again, if you need to, because I explained very well why I believe that Heechul is putting on a show and nothing else. If you like to be a child about it, don't expect me to take you seriously.

 

 

I am absolutely not missing any point - because I NEVER once said that close living quarters exclude attraction between idols.

My point was, that BECAUSE of their super close livingconditions idols are usually much more affectionate towards each other than most young adults (and even families) around us, which in turn a lot of people mistake for gay attraction (even when the PDA is strictly non sexual). This includes non-sexual as well as sexual displays of affection.

 

Of course they can be attracted to each other, but that wasn't my point.

 

But many people on here seem to take the NON-sexual affection between idols as a proof to their attraction to one another all too often. They say things like "Ohh, but the guys in my school never did that, so idol a and idol B must be gay!" or "Guys don't hold hands like that - they must be attracted to one another."

 

A simple hug must be a sign of some sort of sexual attraction, even if the guys hugging are 100 percent straight.

 

(sexual attraction between family members has absolutely nothing to do with any of my posts, so I won't even go there)

 

"so  many straight men watch gay porn" 

uh... i wouldn't say "so many," but i've heard of it happening.

 

i don't think he's gay for hugging or touching men. and i do think there is an exaggerated theatricalness to the way he approaches his sexuality on TV as a celebrity persona.

 

that being said, he seems comfortable in his persona which is pretty unique for korean television. the only other celebrities i can think of who play gay are the eternal bro and hunk-thirsty foreign pansexuále jackson and "if i wore a wig you might think i am your actual aunt by blood" hong seok cheon -- heechul's role is a bit cattier, more fashionable (even though his fashion is not my taste), and edgy. in the end, the awkwardness of "this is a deliberate character" is reconciled by the feeling i get watching him that he actually kind of enjoys playing it up. 

 

meanwhile his off-screen life involves a lot of weird unexplained (and he seems to enjoy leaving it like that) meetings with the same boy who is apparently in charge of his hair and goes with him literally everywhere announced or unannounced.

 

 

Well, not all of us take an obvious fake act as truth.

 

There is a reason so many people are doubting him in particular. See, you have guys like TEN and KEY and also TAO and Sehun, who scream gay, for lack of a better word. All of them have said themselves to like girls at one point or another, and yet, you won't find anyone over the age of 14 who will actually believe that.

 

Heechul, on the other hand, goes around kissing guys, holding hands, posting dubios pictures, and yet, me, and many more don't believe him.

 

It's not the things he says or does, but the way HOW he says and does them that seem so fake to me.

 

that's because it IS somewhat fake. but many of us aren't going off of shallow fanservice-y attention grabs and even still there's just an AWFUL lot to reconcile with heechul in order to make "100% straight" make sense. it's possible, but it takes more mental gymnastics to explain than it does for kpop fans trying to work out the vague-if-present plotline of their bias's latest music video.

Edited April 2, 2017 by 25%Cotton

[Mysterymindme]

I can't believe the whole Heechul discussion actually distilled down to this pure moment. No dancing around, just as it is. 

Heechul: I'm GAY

blackberry2000: nah fam, you're not. you said you like girls on a variety show in 2010.

Heechul: But i-

blackberry2000: no

 

That's... that's the spirit

Heechul when asked about crossdressing: “It’s just a concept on stage. In real life, he’s not like that at all. Because of that, there were lots of misunderstandings where people thought he dated men. He doesn’t go out much. . because he’s so careful about his image. He didn’t meet women. . and the rumor said he doesn’t like women. . and then the rumor said he likes men. . So Mr. Kim Heechul was so sad. He couldn’t do anything.â€

 

I assure you, I never took your sentiments redarding Heechul seriously in the first place - it is too ridiculous to begin with. At first I thought that it's an april fools joke, but when I realised that you're being serious i didn't even know where to begin so I just cracked a dumb joke. For which i apologize - perhaps, I should have come up with a better one. 

Please be respectful towards others' opinions.

 

 

 

Well, what's funny is that I see naive people here who go by that exact mentality.

You post your little gifs of a straight idol, and take every action they do as a proof of their gayness, when more often than not, it's them fooling around for fun, or simply being horny as heck.

 

But no, with those guys it's -------------------------- GAY! Oh y god, I knew he was gay! He touched a finger - GAY. There are no inbetweens for them.

 

Why do you believe there are so many straight guys who watch gay porn? Because it turns them on. It's the sexual act itself that turns them on, no matter the gender involved. (and many of them even comment that with straight porn the woman involved usually does not seem to be very into it, or to enjoy it at all)

 

I assume you too went to a school somewhere in time - and boys usually start to act out at 14/15 because hormones literally drive them crazy, while girls remain calm in comparison.

Now, put together a bunch of boys, make them spend pretty much every minute of the day together, with no contact with girls whatsoever, so that when puberty hits and their sexual drive is coming knocking at the door full force they will eventually turn to each other for some sort of release ( gay or straight).

 

 

Of course you ARE not attracted to your brother or sister! That's a given!! No matter the name you like to use for it - what are you people even on about???

 

 

Don't put words into my mouth I never said.

 

That would be first.

 

Second, read my post again, if you need to, because I explained very well why I believe that Heechul is putting on a show and nothing else. If you like to be a child about it, don't expect me to take you seriously.

 

 

I am absolutely not missing any point - because I NEVER once said that close living quarters exclude attraction between idols.

My point was, that BECAUSE of their super close livingconditions idols are usually much more affectionate towards each other than most young adults (and even families) around us, which in turn a lot of people mistake for gay attraction (even when the PDA is strictly non sexual). This includes non-sexual as well as sexual displays of affection.

 

Of course they can be attracted to each other, but that wasn't my point.

 

But many people on here seem to take the NON-sexual affection between idols as a proof to their attraction to one another all too often. They say things like "Ohh, but the guys in my school never did that, so idol a and idol B must be gay!" or "Guys don't hold hands like that - they must be attracted to one another."

 

A simple hug must be a sign of some sort of sexual attraction, even if the guys hugging are 100 percent straight.

 

(sexual attraction between family members has absolutely nothing to do with any of my posts, so I won't even go there)

 

 

I'm not sure that males have it much worse than females. . . isn't that just a stereotype? And also driven by traditional beliefs about women. Here's a relevant article: https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/turns-out-women-have-really-really-strong-sex-drives-can-men-handle-it/276598/

Here's another relevant article about the frequency of sexual thoughts in both genders: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/201112/how-often-do-men-and-women-think-about-sex

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Mysterymindme

[ooo]

https://twitter.com/heechulfacts/status/848406207840763904

Omg gunhee being super cute waiting for heechul at the airport

[Yoonability]

https://twitter.com/heechulfacts/status/848406207840763904

Omg gunhee being super cute waiting for heechul at the airport

They're so adorable together, look how happy he seems

[blackberry2000]

On 4/2/2017 at 12:55 PM, EleanorofAquitaine said:

@blackberry, so what about JeongCheol? Are they real?

 

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by blackberry2000

[EleanorofAquitaine]

 

Please be respectful towards others' opinions.

And you and the like please try to post more respectable opinions. Lets all try our best. That's all I have to say on the matter, have a nice day.

 

 

You really want to knooooooow?

 

I thought that maybe you have something different to say, but no - it's still the same old rhetoric that's been posted on here by several people already. To sum it up: Jeonghan is ethereal his beauty transcends space, time and sexual orientations, SCoups is very attracted to him but also straight, that creates the Schrödinger's SCoups, who's straight but is into Jeonghan's inner goddess. 

 

Lmao, I don't even follow Seventeen but even I, thru the screen, see clear as a day that Jeonghan is a cis guy, and I'm pretty sure that Coups knows it too. So, if he is attracted, that just means he's into pretty boys.