Which male idols do you think are gay?

[chunghastan]

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Edited September 14, 2020 by chunghastan

[blackberry2000]

trouble

Edited February 10, 2022 by blackberry2000

[Mysterymindme]

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Edited June 14, 2017 by Mysterymindme

[Leland22]

Not many people here seem to know much about Hyungsik, so I can share a few relevant points.

 

- He was a very close friend of Ryeowook, and when they first became friends in 2011, he used to sleep over at Super Junior's dorm. They were very close for a while, became distant, but then became good friends again. They wrote many sweet messages to each other on twitter eg. Ryeowook hyung who’s like sunshine keke I miss you hwaiting~!!â€

 

- In early 2013, he tweeted in response to Hong Seokchun's Healing camp episode (in which he talked about coming out). By any chance saw Mr. Hong Seok Cheon’s Healing Camp.. Between B and D is C. There’s Choice between Birth and Death. It’s something important to choose between happiness and unhappiness.. Sad thought, happy thought which one will I choose between those two? I’ll choose the happy thought ㅎㅎ [Edited for the date]

 

- In 2013, while appearing on Real Men, Hyungsik talked about his relationship with one of the hyungs he met through the show. He was asked if the hyung had given him any advice about girls, and Hyungsik replied that he had been advised to read the Kinsey Reports and that he found this helpful.

 

- He once retweeted a yaoi fanart of himself and Siwan:

https://twitter.com/ZEA_Hyungsik/status/245829647068176384

 

- There was some speculation last year about his relationship with Siwan since they were seen going on a private holiday to Thailand alone together. They are both very private, so who knows.

Honestly, it's been a long time but I remember during ZE:A's debut days many in the fandom thought there was something between Hyungsik and Kevin. I don't know how I would feel if I looked at the commonly used "evidence" from back then nowadays but at the time, it didn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

 

It's always a day when you login to see people arguing about Heechul. Kinda worse when you see they aren't even arguing about him being straight, just that he's attracted to women.

 

Like I haven't been as observant on the whole rumor thing about idols, because I mostly just skim the surface except for certain individuals, so I don't necessarily have a whole background/history to start reading out despite how long I've been a fan, but I honestly do not understand why Heechul is still a subject for discussion......

 

 

This may be surprising to any not gay ppl here, but we lie about our orientations. All the damn time. There are idols that lie, that say borderline or outright homophobic things to try to blend in, because they know that saying something in a society that expects straightness will automatically dismiss anything else given the opportunity. It's really as easy as going: 'kissing my members, since they're men, its gross.'

 

Unless the watcher themselves is gay, in which case that sort of thing just makes us squint suspiciously.

 

Heechul does this as well, in varying degrees, and I consider the instances of him verbally making a statement of 'i like women' or acted as if he is, far less legitimate than all of the constant actions he's done to say otherwise

 

I hope this isn't too blunt but when I see the name Heechul here, I make sure to skip the discussion. Not because I dislike him or have anything against him but just because we've been over this topic so many times and I think the majority have reached a general consensus.

 

did someone say monsta x

 

 

about ikon, i don't know them very well so i can't give you an opinion. 

 

for monsta x:

minhyuk: gaaaay. imo it's super obvious. he's the type who talks a lot without thinking and he isn't a very good actor, so i don't think he could change his behaviour even if he tried

 

shownu: i know this is a very unpopular opinion but i think he might be gay. a lot of people dismiss him because he's manly and quiet, but idk, i just feel like he isn't straight

 

i.m: ???? he could be everything, nothing would surprise me

 

jooheon: he's hard to read because he doesn't seem particularly interested in dating, and he has a very innocent mind for his age (i remember once someone made a very obvious innuendo and the boy just didn't get it AT ALL lmaooo). but what i found weird was his behaviour during the bromance thing with jackson, he was so stiff and self-conscious which is very uncharacteristic for him since he's usually very warm and friendly and loves doing skinship. if he isn't straight then i could imagine him feeling insecure because of the whole "bromance" concept, which is why he might have acted that way. but yeah, who knows with him. he's a cutie though, please stan

 

wonho: okay, please don't kill me everyone, but i feel like he's straight. the thing with wonho is that he's VERY aware of what fans like and want, and he doesn't hesitate to give it to them  monsta x is not a very fanservice-y group, they are pretty natural, but wonho is the only one who deliberately does fanservice and hints on "gay" stuff because he knows that the fans like it. he loves pushing the hyungwonho ship and amping up the touchiness BUT, and that's the thing that makes me think he's straight, he doesn't seem personally affected by any of that, it just seems like fun and games to him. he's never flustered or feels "caught" or anything like that. 

also iirc the thing about him not wanting to get married was a bit taken out of context, because he said that he wants to get married, just not now. and during another interview he said he wants to be a good husband or something?

i know i seem like i'm straight-splaining (lol), but i just wanted to explain my point of view without others coming at me. that said, i wouldn't be too surprised if he turned out to be bi. i don't think he's gay though

but what is true is that he is very open-minded and he doesn't have that fragile masculinity a lot of other boys have (i love that about him). he doesn't mind being seen as feminine or cute

 

slightly ot but what kind of annoys me is that people take very flimsy rumours about his past as a fact just to get notes on tumblr or whatever. like, there was only one comment that said that he might have bearded one of his friends, and people immediately take it as a fact because it makes him sound cool. also, about his friend, we don't know if they are really trans, someone commented asking about it on their personal instagram and their reaction didn't seem too pleased... so i wish people would stop throwing around those things as facts, especially since the person involved 1.isn't even famous and 2.doesn't seem too happy about people questioning their gender.

 

kihyun: straight, maybe a bit bicurious?

 

hyungwon: straight, the straightest in the group imo, never gave me any vibes

 

 

I agree on the Shownu bit. That happens with a few idols.

[Leland22]

First of all, hello everyone, I think this might just be my first post on this message board, though I might be wrong.

 

 

But even so, I am familiar enough with it to know the basics and most speculated about, and so on, however, one thing I did notice, that a lot of people here seem to confuse being horny with being attracted tot he same sex.

 

Generally speaking, men are more sexual creatures. Be it the hormones, that wire the brain in a different way, other chemics, bodyfluids, or the general build, whatever you like. Their build alone makes it so much easier (and more comfortable at that) to have, and enjoy sex, but I do find, that people on these boards generally ignore this alltogether, so when a guy gets horny he could pretty much engage with his pillow and get sattisafacton out of it.

Men are horny, much more so than most women could ever be or understand, so, I often find that posters here confuse that hornyness for attraction, when it truth it's nothing else but sexual desire in a more primal shape.

 

I don't want to

 

 

A lot of these groups, male and female, leave their friends and families behind at an alarmingly early age to pursue, what is, in many cases, a stressful career (if they manage it that far). Trainess practice, eat and sleep together, oftentimes on top of each other for lack of space and extra beds.

 

Does that sound normal to you?

 

 

Heck - you will even have a hard time finding blood related families who spend as much time together as most trainees do - at least I don't remember sharing my room with either, my brother or sister 24/7, not throughout the whole day and for years at an end - but maybe that's just me being overly sophisticated, who knows.

 

Most idol bands literally spend years and year sharing the same room, the same bathroom, day in, day out, in the closest quaters possible without being considered abusive, pretty much nonstop.

 

Again - that is not normal. I say this, because many people, including older ones, who should know better, seem to completely forget about this altogether.

 

SO of course, the bonds that idols form, can not be compared to "normal" people.

 

 

As a result, we often witness a level of closeness that seems to us, in many cases, off putting. These guys are literally over each other - they grab asses, rub each other in all the wrong places, kiss touch and cuddle (for fanservice and self enjoyment) to a degree one can't but consider gay.

 

One of the main reasons why there seem to be so many misnconcetpions about this topic, is because, you (we) as readers and observers, hardly have the same experiences, so in comparison, these displays of affection seem either overly played out for the sake of fans, excessive or fake.

 

I do believe that the life of an idol is a stressful one, and while it may not be on the same level of discomfort as, say, a construction worker or a MC Donalds employee, each will have their own specific downside. Mental exhaustion is just as much a thing as is physical one.

The industry is ruthless, but so is life in general for many people, and making a living is hard, no matter the occupation.

 

You simply can't compare their situation with yours, since they spend most of their young and adult life together. And remember, not all of what we see is a show idols put up for the sake of their fans. You often get the more private stories and anecdotes, either from the friends and families on TV and the radio, or the idols themselves.

 

 

YOu get a similiar vibe in sports, where teammates grab each others behinds, hug and even kiss, without a second thought as a form of support.(boxers kissing on the lips, soccerplayers humping each other, hugging and kissing cheeks like there is no tomorrow)

 

My point is, they get close, because, unlike your "us" they spend their whole day together, with little breaks, many stressful situations, and constant traveling from one place to another, so the need for human contact is even bigger with idols.

To be fair, siblings grow up being even closer than these idols and the vast majority don't do sexual or romantic things with each other.

[aliceninelovegazette]

Okay so this is kind of unrelated, but I thought it was an interesting insight. There's this new "boy group" in China that's actually made up of butch girls, called Acrush:

 

 

You can read the article here, but basically, they have a majority female fanbase like any other boy group, and this is how their agent described them: “A group advocating freedom, not bounded by frames†is Acrush’s distinguishing concept, Zhou says.

 

This next bit was the part that caught my attention:

 

21-year-old Lu, captain of Acrush, says some female fans send love letters to her, but “of course I won’t like fans back.†She says the company doesn’t allow her to discuss her own or her teammates’ sexual orientations.

 

I know this is China and not Korea, but I'd imagine the companies would have pretty much the same policy on this. So for anyone thinking idols can just come out whenever they want, that's obviously not the case if even such a progressive group (that would be appealing to their audience by coming out) can't do it yet.

Interesting concept. They're 'manlier' than previous group, MissTer and that one from japan. Ofc they have female fans. I wonder if fans fell over them bc of their stage persona or real them

[ocean berry]

It's always a day when you login to see people arguing about Heechul. Kinda worse when you see they aren't even arguing about him being straight, just that he's attracted to women.

 

Like I haven't been as observant on the whole rumor thing about idols, because I mostly just skim the surface except for certain individuals, so I don't necessarily have a whole background/history to start reading out despite how long I've been a fan, but I honestly do not understand why Heechul is still a subject for discussion......

 

 

This may be surprising to any not gay ppl here, but we lie about our orientations. All the damn time. There are idols that lie, that say borderline or outright homophobic things to try to blend in, because they know that saying something in a society that expects straightness will automatically dismiss anything else given the opportunity. It's really as easy as going: 'kissing my members, since they're men, its gross.'

 

Unless the watcher themselves is gay, in which case that sort of thing just makes us squint suspiciously.

 

Heechul does this as well, in varying degrees, and I consider the instances of him verbally making a statement of 'i like women' or acted as if he is, far less legitimate than all of the constant actions he's done to say otherwise

 

it makes me feel some type of way seeing people try to prove that a man is attracted to women? like... we already live in a society that sees man/woman attraction as the DEFAULT so it just feels like they're regurgitating the same old heteronormative standards. like who cares if heechul is gay or bi? 99% of us agree that he's attracted to men and that's all that matters lmao

[DICKRIDE]

Generally speaking, men are more sexual creatures. Be it the hormones, that wire the brain in a different way, other chemics, bodyfluids, or the general build, whatever you like. Their build alone makes it so much easier (and more comfortable at that) to have, and enjoy sex, but I do find, that people on these boards generally ignore this alltogether, so when a guy gets horny he could pretty much engage with his pillow and get sattisafacton out of it.

Men are horny, much more so than most women could ever be or understand, so, I often find that posters here confuse that hornyness for attraction, when it truth it's nothing else but sexual desire in a more primal shape.

 

Thank you for the laugh.

[swimgood]

sorry to spam this forum about jimin and jungkook, i never really saw their interactions as more than platonic before now so i'm having a bit of an eye opener lol—does anyone know what video this gif is from?

 

also this set, i'm assuming the subs are fake but it looks so perfectly like an award-winning sundance coming-of-age gay short film

[BeatGotSica]

First of all, hello everyone, I think this might just be my first post on this message board, though I might be wrong.

 

 

But even so, I am familiar enough with it to know the basics and most speculated about, and so on, however, one thing I did notice, that a lot of people here seem to confuse being horny with being attracted tot he same sex.

 

Generally speaking, men are more sexual creatures. Be it the hormones, that wire the brain in a different way, other chemics, bodyfluids, or the general build, whatever you like. Their build alone makes it so much easier (and more comfortable at that) to have, and enjoy sex, but I do find, that people on these boards generally ignore this alltogether, so when a guy gets horny he could pretty much engage with his pillow and get sattisafacton out of it.

Men are horny, much more so than most women could ever be or understand, so, I often find that posters here confuse that hornyness for attraction, when it truth it's nothing else but sexual desire in a more primal shape.

 

 

 

  

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by BeatGotSica

[annoyingwombat]

sorry to spam this forum about jimin and jungkook, i never really saw their interactions as more than platonic before now so i'm having a bit of an eye opener lol—does anyone know what video this gif is from?

 

also this set, i'm assuming the subs are fake but it looks so perfectly like an award-winning sundance coming-of-age gay short film

 

Incredibly enough, those subs are real 

[Deâ„“phina]

 blindly ignore the many times he has stated he likes and is attracted to women. 

 

/clears throat

 

"I like men only" 

 

*Narration voice* Suddenly, Delphina is no longer queer af. With a simple statement, her attraction to women vanished into thin air. Don't mind the lesbian porn bookmarks and her checking out that cute chick in the pool room, words told in front of a camera to a close-minded audience are the only thing that matter. 

 

 

 

 

I talked in depth discussing that he has no reason to 'pretend to be attracted to women', 

 

You mean, beside his career ? 

[Guest]

sorry to spam this forum about jimin and jungkook, i never really saw their interactions as more than platonic before now so i'm having a bit of an eye opener lol—does anyone know what video this gif is from?

 

also this set, i'm assuming the subs are fake but it looks so perfectly like an award-winning sundance coming-of-age gay short film

 

the subs are not fake 

 

[Frogurt]

 

They are ghei

Jisoo needs to fight me for him

 

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Frogurt

[Leland22]

Jisoo needs to fight me for him

 

 

   

  I'll fight you for him. My goodness he's so beautiful.

 

Does Jisoo have a nice body as well?

[swimgood]

Incredibly enough, those subs are real 

 

the subs are not fake 

 

 

im gonna take a break now because jikook just shot up from "never had a chance" on my list to "homemade couple videos saying they want each other while lying on the floor" and i swear i felt my whole body get shook

[Mysterymindme]

/clears throat

 

"I like men only" 

 

*Narration voice* Suddenly, Delphina is no longer queer af. With a simple statement, her attraction to women vanished into thin air. Don't mind the lesbian porn bookmarks and her checking out that cute chick in the pool room, words told in front of a camera to a close-minded audience are the only thing that matter. 

You mean, beside his career ? 

 

You do you, girl. You do you. As I've said eight times now, he has no reason to pretend to be attracted to women because he could just, for example, say he has a girlfriend and everyone would leave him alone. Heechul is a smart guy. Koreans don't want to believe that fellow Koreans are gay. The vast majority of idols and even variety show hosts don't 'pretend to be attracted to women' to the extent that Heechul has. He has no need to describe so thoroughly the kind of clothes he enjoys seeing a girl wear when he could, for example, just say 'I like girls with good hearts' and leave it at that. Heechul has said that honesty is very important to him. If he had to lie, he would do it in the cleanest/least tiresome way possible.

 

im gonna take a break now because jikook just shot up from "never had a chance" on my list to "homemade couple videos saying they want each other while lying on the floor" and i swear i felt my whole body get shook

 

Jungkook was just being funny, but it is pretty shocking all the same. I'm happy his relationship with Jimin has changed such that he can happily flirt-joke with him.

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Mysterymindme

[Frogurt]

  I'll fight you for him.

 

 

 

[blackberry2000]

To be fair, siblings grow up being even closer than these idols and the vast majority don't do sexual or romantic things with each other.

 

Well, that would be incest, and greatly disturbing on top of it.

 

Siblings are blood related, wheras idols are not. You will have a hard time finding anyone being sexually attracted to their own sibling. They are completely different to begin with.

[Mysterymindme]

Okay so this is kind of unrelated, but I thought it was an interesting insight. There's this new "boy group" in China that's actually made up of butch girls, called Acrush:

 

You can read the article here, but basically, they have a majority female fanbase like any other boy group, and this is how their agent described them: â€œA group advocating freedom, not bounded by frames†is Acrush’s distinguishing concept, Zhou says.

 

This next bit was the part that caught my attention:

 

21-year-old Lu, captain of Acrush, says some female fans send love letters to her, but “of course I won’t like fans back.†She says the company doesn’t allow her to discuss her own or her teammates’ sexual orientations.

 

I know this is China and not Korea, but I'd imagine the companies would have pretty much the same policy on this. So for anyone thinking idols can just come out whenever they want, that's obviously not the case if even such a progressive group (that would be appealing to their audience by coming out) can't do it yet. 

 

 

Looked at the article, and I guess female crossdressing in China might have a niche. Reminded me of this epic Chinese female dance crew that does covers crossdressed: if anyone's interested, here's their (crossdressed) covers of F(x) 4 walls and BTS' Perfrect Man. I'd almost like to see what their leader, Ms. Hyojung, would be like in an idol group: she's incredible.

 

 

 

Bonus:

 

Edited April 2, 2017 by Mysterymindme

[Tee]

 

 

 

WTF!!!!? *dead*

 

[cyberloser]

Honestly, it's been a long time but I remember during ZE:A's debut days many in the fandom thought there was something between Hyungsik and Kevin. I don't know how I would feel if I looked at the commonly used "evidence" from back then nowadays but at the time, it didn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

I remember that too. Indeed, Kevsik were very cuddly with each other but I wouldn't know what to make of it.

[Aisling]

 

Looked at the article, and I guess female crossdressing in China might have a niche. Reminded me of this epic Chinese female dance crew that does covers crossdressed: if anyone's interested, here's their (crossdressed) covers of F(x) 4 walls and BTS' Perfrect Man. I'd almost like to see what their leader, Ms. Hyojung, would be like in an idol group: she's incredible.

 

 

 

Bonus:

 

 

That BTS cover got me like  

[CottonCandyPrince(ss)JJong]

you're right, i had completely forgotten that! apparently in

clip, according to translations in the comments, jonghyun mentioned that "Key has been drunk many times and that Minho's always the one that picked him up and took care of him."

 

  #1 ally choi minho

 

Thanks for the video link! Sweet Minho

 

I don't know if you have mentioned this before...

 

Click here to view the Tweet

 

lololol

 

Though don't teen boys often get erections for no particular reason?

 

 

 

  

 

Bless this post. I couldn't even read the rest of that other one because damn

[25%Cotton]

Though don't teen boys often get erections for no particular reason?

well, to THEM (and to people without dicks) it seems like no particular reason because they aren't used to having erections so regularly, but as you get used to being an adult you figure out how your D works and when / what kind of things cause erections.

 

but yeah they get erections all the time.

when you're in public at the center of attention you tend to not get them so easily, though it (obviously) still happens.

Edited April 2, 2017 by 25%Cotton