Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Libby21]

Taeyong is whipped 

 

 

[Libby21]

Should we judge idols sexuality based on the lyrics they write ? Can companies force idols to write " hetero " lyrics ? 

[Libby21]

17 minutes ago, baekhyunee said:

i wouldn’t judge entirely by lyrics but maybe look into them if they’re gender neutral. but there are some that actually have lyrics about the same sex. like jonghyun’s 2:34 says something like “it’s my first time asking a guy to stay over”. in that case i would definitely consider it a receipt. but also not all idols write their own songs so some of them you can’t really judge. 

Yes that's why I was talking about idols who have full credits of the lyrics .. But I think company's have a big influence over them . for example : SM forced taeyong to change the lyrics to one of his songs just because the lyrics were submissive  

Edited March 28, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

The only ones i can speculate of them being gay or bi in nct/wayv are : Ten - Taeyong - Doyoung - Yuta . the others are confusing to me 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

17 minutes ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

stan twitter going crazy over this but

isn't it just part of their daily life?? why am i not surprised at all? 

 

Same .. Like nct ( ecpesially 127 ) are just a bunch of gays put into a kpop group 

[Libby21]

16 hours ago, jeong jaehyuns boyfriend said:

This is so shady, but what’s new? The entertainment industry profiting off queer culture without giving due credit. Or in this case, literally trying to erase any trace of the queer community despite utilizing a queer space. Smh

I love when taeyong said himself that it was a gay bar and he also said it is his favorite place .. Sm has always been shady I mean they took a video down and edited it because a fan was holding the word lesbian for the nct tour 

[Libby21]

For NCT/WayV as a whole here are the members I think are LGBT : Taeyong - Ten - Yuta - Doyoung - Jungwoo ( Maybe Jaehyun and Xiaojun ) 

For Dream I think they're still young and it gets confusing to determine 

[Libby21]

19 minutes ago, Thatoneuser said:

Like I said before lets stop using the young excuse for nct dream. They're all 18+ I mean you guys really can't tell if someone is GAY AT 18. like comeon. I think its because all you still have them as children in your mind. Even so I'm pretty sure people could tell I was a flaming homosexual at 18 IN KOREA. So.

Anyways I didn't mean to call you out, it's just I see that excuse everywhere. I think it's lazy thinking.

Edit: also don't @me you all are speculating about idols who are just as young or were speculating about idols when they were their age.

I'm sorry , I didn't mean to use it as an excuse .. I'm not stating facts these are opinions , I'm a 21 years old guy , growing up in super homophobic country I'm still struggling to discover my sexuality , I'm not saying they all should feel the same way but from my perspective it is difficult to speculate about them .

Edited April 18, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

5 hours ago, cristallodineve said:

I had been wanting to share my take on NCT for a while, but I felt I still needed to get to know them better before saying anything, since I've got into them just recently. Still, I think that my opinion could be interesting to read since I am probably older than many of the current users of this thread and a queer woman as well (noona fan here, yo). Please notice that this is my personal opinion and I am not trying to force my thoughts into anybody, I am just sharing my point of view. If you don't feel like reading a long and probably a little boring essay just skip this. 

Also, this is mainy Taeyong and Yuta related, but there will be musings on other members here and there. Beware, it's loooooong.

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I find Taeyong's duality absolutely fascinating, just as I do for other idols who are pure art and expression on stage but act quietly and low profile when they are not performing, like Kim Jongin for example (whom I am positive is gay, in spite of all the Kaistal, Jenkai and so on). First of all, the absolute shitstorm Taeyong had to endure since his debut until now is no joke, and I think that just someone with a very sheer will and healthy mindset could go through all that without falling apart. In my opinion he looks like an introvert more than an extrovert, a very sensitive soul with a strong sense of duty and responsibility. I don't know if anyone agrees with me, since probably it's not a popular opinion, but I really think that Taeyong is indeed a homosexual man with a lot of inner fears and insecurities. I'll try to explain myself better. 

A little digression here. We all know that Korean culture is all about skinship and "just bros" attitude, but I always had the strong feeling that, if everything is kept behind closed doors and it's not fed to the public, then it's not a problem at all. It's actually pretty similar to the current way of perceiving homosexuality and especially same sex relationships in the infamous western countries, even those where same sex marriage is legal. Let's face it. Homosexuality is still a stigma, everywhere. I'm sorry if this upsets someone, but my personal experience brought me to believe this. I live in Europe and my country was one of the first to legalize homosexual weddings.

Still, discrimination never, and when I say never, I mean never, fucking stopped or even faded out a little. If a boy or a girl even dares coming out during school, they would be bullied. Always. Maybe not by their close group of friends (even if bullying comes in many subtle shades, at times), but sooner or later some assholes will come at them. You could get discriminated at work, since it's still a taboo coming out in some environments. And there are still many, too many people who just believe that homosexuality is an illness, in spite of what OMS said and everything else. You wouldn't believe how many times I got that pitying look from people when I introduced my girlfriend to them. These things, let's be honest, don't push you to be open and sincere to everyone. And if your mental isn't strong, sooner or later you'll end up doubting yourself, internalizing the hate surrounding you like "your fault" and just end up being your own worst enemy. /end of rant.

I was very excited when I learned that Taeyong was going to be in SuperM, even if I hated that he was getting overworked, since he would get closer to some senior idols of him who probably are more in touch with the way they perceive themselves. I strongly believe, in fact, that Jongin, Baekhyun and Taemin, if not queer themselves, are at least allies. I think being together with these people could do nothing but good to him. And if you really squint, always being careful of the fact that he definitey has a stage persona that sometimes confuses us, you could see a subtle change in his attitude, after SuperM's tour.

I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but to me, he really looks grown up. Matured, in a way, both artistically and personally. His insecurities are still there - I am thinking about that silly BuzzFeed video where he was asked to hug Baekhyun and look into his eyes while giving him compliments, and he started freaking out: a part of it was probably exaggerated for camera purposes, but blushing and acting that weird... - but I think he understands them better, now. I think he's slowly accepting that women, and also a lot of men, find him handsome and interesting as a person. I think he's naturally more inclined towards men than women, and probably even experimented a little during trainee days and behind closed doors (I mean, who wouldn't? I hope nobody will get triggered by these words, but well, let's face it: a lot of young men with raging hormones... it's just not realistic hoping that he would live like a monk), both physically and mentally-wise. 

I am happy that NCT seems to be a group filled with so many seeming diverse and nice men. And I absolutely love the fact that Taeyong is such a good and caring leader for them. He's nice to everyone, really, but I personally found his relationship towards Yuta, Jaehyun, Johnny and Ten the most fascinating to analyze.

Johnny and Yuta are part of the 95 line and I think they naturally and genuinely got closer since trainee days. Yuta is like his long lost twin, except that, at least in my opinion, he's a few steps ahead in his own journey of self understanding and embracing his true self. Many times it was clear to me that Taeyong respects and truly loves Yuta as a person and a close friend (another gut feeling here - if I were Taeyong, Yuta would be the person I'd choose to pour my heart when I feel stressed or to ask advice. Just sayin'). I think Yuta is very similar to Taeyong in a way. They have been friends since trainee days and their strong bond is still evident in these days. I also think, though, that Yuta is dramatically different from him. Let me detail my opinion. I remember reading a post in this thread a while ago, which defined Yuta "a sexually liberated young man" (or something along these lines). Well, maybe not entirely sexually liberated, but still many steps ahead than Taeyong in understanding and valuing himself enough not to be afraid to be frank, speak his mind, even act "controversial" (commas are compulsory here; think of the bellybutton piercing, of the way he dared telling a sasaeng to fuck off, of the way he doesn't even try to hide when he's annoyed or tired or in disagreement with something) if he feels that it's the right thing to do. At the same time, he always felt like a sweet and understanding person to me. And empath, probably, and a very good listener. I think, personally, that the fact that he's not Korean might play a role in this dynamic, but I have no deep knowledge of Japanese culture so I won't dwell on this topic further. I don't know why, but I've always thought that.

Johnny always felt like a very sweet person to me, a really friendly guy and he grew up in a western country (I think that this factor definitely plays a role, even if his mother culture is Korean). I think Taeyong loves him deeply as a friend. 

His relationship with Jaehyun is interesting also. Many believe that there's something suspicious between them, I am not sure about that since their supposed moments are always subtle, mainly happen off cam and nowadays they don't interact much on stage, but there's a definite spark between them, I am sure of it. Maybe not a definite romantic relationship, but I think that these two definitely have a soft spot for each other. Their personalities match well, and there's just this undeniable chemistry between them. I think they both find each other attractive, both physically and mentally. It's in their eyes, really. But I don't know if they ever took it to the next level, honestly. 

Lastly, Ten. Ten is maybe the only one who I'd bet my money on, like, nobody nowadays could deny that this guy is queer. Maybe not the flamboyant gay diva type, that's just for show I think, but I think he's the most free-spirited and in tune with himself among the whole group. This is why his friendship with Taeyong is so important. Taeyong, in my opinion, needs positive examples of people who chose not to let their fears engulf them and just aren't afraid of speak out their mind and soul. A lot of people seem to think that Taeyong and Ten might or might have been in a relationship at some point, but I personally don't think so. I think that Taeyong's personality matches better with other people, but I'm not saying that they might not have messed up or experimented at some point. They're human, duh.

 

It. Got. So. Long.  I'd love to get to know if you agree or disagree with me. I have no problems with opinions that are different from mine, but please remember that anyone has the right to state his own opinion and shouldn't be bashed because of that. And remember that I have zero tolerance towards trolls~

 

 

You said everything I wanted to say for so long lol thank you for this 

[Libby21]

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Edited April 26, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

1 hour ago, 3/4illustrator said:

I've yet to watch the whole episode, but here's a cut of Taeyong's video message to Doyoung.

TY's "after we become elders, let's go to nursing home together as well" made me think they (or at least TY himself) are indeed queer or non-heteronormative. I see his message as a subtle indication that he anticipates that he'll be "single" forever and won't be living with spouses or kids in his later years

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Here's the whole video with other members:

 

 

I thought of that as well , TY always avoids heteronormativity .. that video was so wholesome too

Edited April 27, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

taeyong really have a big crush on baekhyun lol 

 

 

 

 

[Libby21]

3 hours ago, .idk said:

Not sure if this has ever been posted but here is nct127's reaction to some muscular dude

(yuta  )

taeyong , yuta and jaehyun's reaction is questionable

[Libby21]

I also don't think dispatch won't out idols like this..

[Libby21]

this is where they went allegedly 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Libby21

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Lucas lesbians shirt 

[Libby21]

happy pride month 

 

[Libby21]

taeyong being whipped for baekhyun

 

and baekhyun buying taeyong the most expensive drink 

 

 

 

[Libby21]

4 hours ago, NavyBlue said:

I think this is my first time posting here and the reason is Taeyong lol (*cough* Baekhyun *cough*) I've been an NCTzen for a long time but why I didn't see it?! I guess I was blind......well....only yesterday it hit me that maybe Taeyong has a huge crush on Baek....Thoughts? 

I think so too and it was even before superm was made lol

and the fact that he danced 30 times for the candy challenge to make it perfect

 

 

[Libby21]

1 hour ago, IREGRETEVERYTHING said:

Unpopular opinion, but the Baekhyun/Taeyong thing seems very fabricated to me. It all started to scale up after their online concert, now that SuperM is rumoured to have a comeback. Anyone who's followed SM groups for a while can probably pick up on this pattern. To me, they are the ship of the season. Reminiscent of Mark/Kai for the last round of SuperM promos, or Mark/Yuta for Kick it.

In fact, you can tell that SM is pushing the ship with the way they gave Taeyong a freaking budget to do the candy dance challenge, hair, makeup and everything, while Lucas and Ten filmed it on their grainy phone cameras on their way back from practice, lol. 

Not to say Taeyong doesn't have a crush, but I didn't see it from their first appearances as a group, so it's kind of strange to me. It still reads as fan admiration from my pov. 

I don't think it's even a ship cause baekhyun doesn't really talk about taeyong that much .. I don't know if it's a crush thing but taeyong just has a nature of appreciating his friends ... even his music producers like royal dive and square he takes them to eat at fancy restaurants and buy and decorates their stuff now I don't think his love for them is made by sm lol

[Libby21]

this is funny the way taeyong panicked when he caught himself staring

 

[Libby21]

there are so many idols that i and many here speculate to be gay that recommend/watch heteronormative romantic movies or songs ... what is you guy's opinion on that , should I take it as a sign or don't care about it ?

Edited June 15, 2020 by Libby21

[Libby21]

1 hour ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

If an idol recommends or follows a lot of lgbt artists and movies then i believe he/she is most likely part of the lgbt+ community because as a gay guy living in a heteronormative country growing up i tried to find every lgbt film or music artist to make me feel better knowing that are other people like me who are thriving and going through the same experiences. They also might try to change the perception of the fans and bring more knowledge about lgbt issues. Of course that doesn't mean that if someone recommends one lgbt related movie that means that person is 100% gay. I believe this applies only if he/she does this frequently or looks emotionally attached to one respective film. 

thanks for the response , but I meant the opposite .. the idols that we speculate to be lgbt watch and recommend heteronormative romantic movies .. and if this indicates that they are probably straight or no ? 

[Libby21]

18 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

okay so

first that thing about living together forever as grandpas in a nursing home and now this

i don't know they're cute

the fact that taeyong wanted couple rings secretly but doyoung just exposed him out like that is hilarious

[Libby21]

33 minutes ago, NavyBlue said:

Which idols don't give fanservice? Like they just cringe too much or uncomfortable? Like Mark and I feel like Taeyong too

with taeyong I just think that he gets very shy , not that typical feeling of uncomfortableness .. he just gets so red and flustered lol