Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Melany]

3 hours ago, Glou said:

I'm not discussing the word "bisexual" as problematic. I, too, identify as bisexual. Bisexual is fine. I'm saying the word "sex" meaning "gender" is often transphobic in nature (and still used, by well meaning people, I'm aware the issue lies elsewhere). AND I'm saying that implying there are only two genders IS transphobic. Not all (trans) people are binary.
Saying there are only two sexes IS transphobic if by sexes you mean genders, as it does NOT include non-binary people. Saying you're attracted to BOTH genders is wrong. You may be attracted to TWO genders (man and woman would be the most common option I guess) and that's fine. But "BOTH" excludes any other option.
(and saying there are two sexes as in biological ones excludes intersex people as well, but that's not the point here).
 

bisexual= male or female (including trans male and trans female) 

saying that bisexuality is more than 2 sex, is lowkey transphobic since it mean you doesn't consider trans male and trans female as real male or female. 

There is various gender identity but there is only 2 sex

pansexuality= many various gender, not limited to gender

It's exist for a reason

stop making everything complicated

And no intersex isn't biological, people who have XXY or XX( without the sry gene) are gonna still have either male or female genitals. 

Edited October 29, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

9 minutes ago, seashells said:

What. Intersex people often have both male and female sex organs?? A female presenting intersex person may have testies where ovaries should be. Your comment is highly inaccurate. Especially since Intersex awareness day was just a couple of days ago. A lot of the times they have been forcibly made to have surgery they didn't want. 

They still have  external male of female genitals

Edited October 29, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

8 hours ago, Bushi said:

 

Oh I agree, it's fine, to a point (and perfectly okay as a discussion topic). And I'm not getting at you or your point, but my personal issue is when sensible debate becomes a running pitch battle with someone who gets pissy about an alternative explanation on an LGBT thread (despite people being fair about her suggestion) - and then makes up some AU wet-mouth fic to shore up an obvious straight bias. Someone who seems mystified why people won't just roll over and buy their version of events without question. 

As for dating scandals we always jump them as and when/if we come to them. Some will be legit, many certainly will not be and will be PR grabs for numbers or sometimes to cover the sexuality of one or both participants. I keep an extremely open mind with the idols because they could be anything. 

oh my god, what the hell,  he is not my bias, i don't mind him being pan, bi, straight, gay, i don't stan bts even though i used too. And I already said that i think he is not straight but BISEXUAL.

Do you know what BISEXUAL is???? it's mean attracted to different genders. Not only one. I never said he is straight. You are being lowkey biphobic, as you seem to associate attraction to opposite gender as immediatly straight

[Melany]

On 10/29/2019 at 6:28 AM, Tixy said:

I think it's perfectly fine to discuss an idol's potential attraction to the opposite sex, because if we are not allowed to debate that, then this is inherently not a discussion thread, but a spam one. The issue arises only if someone is a threatened het (whomst remembers the infamous Sehun is a huge het poster?). If we cannot cope with hearing disagreements over our favs being gay, then how are we gonna cope when they get into a het dating scandal? It's good to stay grounded I think.

Likewise, I don't see why we have to clown someone for disagreeing with us, even if it's about people like Sehun. Dislikes being visible has kinda changed the dynamic of the thread I think. I just hope that it won't deter people from voicing disagreements in the future.

On a kinda irrelevant note, to the best of my knowledge, your mouth gets wet in relations to food, but it goes dry when you get excited or nervous. That's why when someone is in the presence of a person they are sexually attracted to, they might lick their lips to offset that.

What is your opinion about Taemin? His image has been (especially lately) kinda connected with things one could associate with gay culture, but I always wonder if that's all that it is, because off-stage Taemin doesn't ping me one bit.

thank a lot for your well explained opinion, you said what i was trying to say... 

Exactly mouth become dry can be used as a proof of attraction to someone. But some people mocked it and would rather take as proof fanservice to prove someone sexuality. 

Edited October 30, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

10 hours ago, LostChild said:

Hello everyone, if i understood well this thread is kind of "guess who's gay in kpop" but you seem to talk about LGBT topics in general related to kpop so there is something i read from a knetizen that i would like to know your opinion about. This person said that some idols develop feelings or attraction to the same sex because they spend almost all their time with trainees or bandmembers of the same sex when women are (supposedly) not available. For me, it's nonsense. I feel that it's just an excuse used by netizens because they refuse to admit that some of us are indeed born attracted to our own gender. I think it's pretty naive for them to think that idols or trainees can't feed their sexual needs with women so they just turn to other trainees/bandmates. I'm sure that if a straight idol/trainee wants to have sex with women he'll find a way to do it and i'm also pretty sure that if a male idol ends up having something with another male idol it was because he wasn't straight to begin with. Also, if anything living everyday with someone diminishes the possible attraction you could have felt towards them because you get to see them when they're not very attractive to say the least. 

 i think you are talking about this, i remember seeing it last year and yeah it completly bullshit, it's just a wishful thinking from kfans, (kinda like the typical "gay for") that shippers use. They want them to be straight because gay is gross if it's not with his handsome bandmate. There is no way they can't met girls at all.... I mean many idols revealed they date despite their busy schedule and even explained how they do it.

 

By the way, is it just me or the idols we often speculated as non straight are usually dancer? is it really a thing and that dancer tend to be more gay? Just a thing i have been thinking about lately.

Edited November 1, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

23 minutes ago, Targaryen said:

I also think a lot of fans don't want their favorite idol to be gay because if he is then he won't be interested in them, lol.

yeah they are so in denial they will invent thing like " heterosexual with homosexual tendencies"

i mean did they heard bisexuality exist

[Melany]

18 hours ago, Targaryen said:

baekhyun and taeyeon was one i felt the same about. with kai and jennie, i thought there was too much evidence that pointed to it being real, but perhaps i haven't really read enough about it (or the evidence was planted).

same, kai and jennie seem real to me, i don't think it was PR because why doing it twice,  kai and krystal would have been enough. Beside kai doesn't seem gay to me, bi maybe. (for his relation ship with taemin)

[Melany]

8 hours ago, Targaryen said:

i agree! kai doesn't ping me at all. i believed both of his dating rumors, and i'm also inclined to believe he and taemin are just very close friends.

 

taemin himself, on the other hand...

exactly, taekai could have joked around in the past, even his manager thought they were dating.

i don't understand when people think taemin is straight, i just can't see him being straight. 

[Melany]

56 minutes ago, Tixy said:

Regarding dating scandals, it may not be the same in other aspects of the Korean entertainment industry, but with idols I totally believe that their dating scandals are real. The idea that these are released to cover government scandals is really silly, because the general public doesn't care one bit about idol dating scandals, nor idols in general (besides BTS). The only "idol" scandal that they've cared about in the recent years has been the Burning Sun. Bearding also doesn't make much sense to me, since Koreans perceive just a few idols as potentially being gay, and none of those people have ever had one (I guess Nam Taehyun could count as an exception, but he wasn't exposed by a tabloid agency, but by the woman he had cheated on). PR doesn't work either because idols are supposed to be selling the fantasy of being the fans' partner, so having a partner of their own is the exact opposite of that. Besides, agencies like Dispatch don't expose nugus for dating precisely because it would destroy their careers. They only do it to big stars, and those people don't need this kind of PR to begin with.

Things like the potential release of the scandal or its timing are definitely influenced by the talks between the tabloids and the idols' agencies, but I do believe that the actual relationships themselves are real. Some people involved still might be gay, but I wouldn't exactly bet on it.

On another note, I have a question for Chanyeol fans who believe him not to be straight:

 

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I don't follow Chanyeol extremely closely, so if I am missing something please tell me, but how do you guys reconcile this idea of Chanyeol being a sweet bi guy with the fact that he was/is very close friends with like half of the people from JJY's molka scandal? He has always had many rumors of being a het fuckboy (which ain't illegal I guess), but after the molka scandal hit, and after seeing that he was close friends with not just one, but multiple people from that crew, I've grown extremely suspicious of him. Cute and friendly selfies don't really make me convinced of anything when he has those with CNBlue's Jonghyun and Zico too.

 

That what i think too, why doing PR for baekhyun, kai when people like Jo kwon, key exist. who are a lot more flamboyants. Korean doesn't care who is gay in idols group exept if they coming out ofc. it would be a big scandal but even less big than the burning sun. 

About chanyeol, i have noticed it too, i wonder if he is kind of involved in the scandal also, his japanese "bf" is friend with them too. 

[Melany]

2 hours ago, jjongjjong said:

if anything, it's rather suspicious that he's had two dating scandals with two popular female idols from the big3. i'm sure he's not the only exo member who's dating, so why have they "caught" him twice? it is suspicious. i'm not saying it was necessarily PR to cover up his sexuality, maybe the companies had to cover up other kinds of scandals

I find his relationship with Taemin sus too, keep in mind that Taemin was sent to We got Married  (that show exists solely to push a het image on idols). BTW i do think both of them like women, but they could be bi.

LMAO trust me, there's been PR for Key. Key had to take part in We Got Married as well, the only purpose of that was forcing a het image on him. 

Because he is the only one who was probably dating a popular idol from big3? I don't think it's more complicated than that. The other weren't dating a idol from big3(probably a nugu idol, someone said that popular male idol date usually nugu because dispatch don't expose nugu) or maybe were dating a non celebrity(for example when was dating a non celeb who was really loud about it on instagram). Chanyeol has rumor to just sleep around.

Also I don't think going to we got married is  as much as faking relation ship. Het idols went there too as joy, henry. I don't doubt it's too force a het image but it's still not equal to a fake dating scandal 

Edited November 5, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

19 minutes ago, Chika Chika said:

Is it just me who thinks that Felix from SKZ is not gay and tries to play up his ship too much? 

Then sometimes I feel he is trying to drop hints that he is bi because when a fan asked him who is his ideal type he answered for both girl and boy. I'm confused. 

actually i don't see him as gay, i think he is most likely bi if he is not straight, what weird is how fast he accomodated to skinship even tho he didn't grow up in korea

[Melany]

5 hours ago, jjongjjong said:

my two cents (after scrolling through pages and pages of this thread):

shinee KEY (gay):
- his model boyfriend from 2013
- recent songs he's written about "losing his love from younger days", "I live in those traces of everything your hands touched". most likely about jjong. Recently was seen with a heart-shaped keychain with photos of jjong and him
- the fact that he has a lot of girl friends (yeri, taeyeon, soyou, boa,) who all visit him in the military and post photos together without worrying about rumors- they wouldnt do that with a straight male idol
- his collab with openly gay singer Olly Alexander, his love for Hedwig and Lady Gaga

shinee JONGHYUN (bisexual):
- based on the lyrics key's recently written, its implied they were more than friends
- wrote romantic/sexual music  about men such as Playboy, Cocktail ("what's in my hand is not a glass"), 02:34 ("It’s my first time asking a male friend to not go back home"), Monodrama ("I want to resemble you, I want to hug you. but it’s too much to even linger next to you")
- he said he wanted to be the female protagonist in Your Name so he could date the male protagonist 

exo SEHUN (gay):
- ryeowook, chen and xiumin basically outed him as gay on a radio show 

wayv TEN:
- his teacher outed him
- said to johnny "I wanna have xxx with you fatass" and "my skin is like honey, you have to taste it"
- he said "I like soft and sticky things in my mouth"
- big fan of Troye Sivan, went to his concert. recommended the soundtrack of Call me by your name

exo SUHO (bisexual)
- Interviewer: "are you a dog type or a cat type of boyfriend?"
Suho: "A dog type of boyfriend. Because with guys I am very loyal, with girls I'm very polite and mannered, more of a gentlemanly type"
- so many receipts of him and his rumored bf, hard to believe they're just friends
- another guy he's rumored to be dating:    https://twitter.com/oldricecooker/status/1191717319245881344?s=19

exo D.O. (bi/gay)
- covered Nothing on You by Bruno Mars and changed the lyrics from "girl" to "boy"
- dating rumors with ryeowook
- so many times he's looked  infatuated with and flustered around kai

suju RYEOWOOK (gay)
- dating rumors with D.O.
- to me pings a lot based on mannerisms 
- unlike the other SJ members, as far as I know, he's never been linked to a woman or expressed any desires to date or marry anyone. this might indicate he's either ace or closeted

nu'est REN (gay)
- in After School Club, the topic of gay rumours and gay fanfiction came up, and in that moment the members looked at him and patted him in a noticeable and supportive way. Don't know much about nu'est, but that moment was very telling

nct MARK (bi/gay)
- I don't know much about him so I'm not sure. but the way he's been acting so flustered around kai is sus. he keeps mentioning how kai is "very gentle", how he was nervous to touch him but now "they're all over each other", how they "laugh together well", how much he "likes his physical appearance".

- exo KAI (bi)
- said nct Mark is very sexy when he speaks english
- said he and Taemin used to sneak out and sleep together in the practice rooms as trainees
- he proudly wears heels and crop tops, if anything his masculinity isn't toxic at all

idols who ping but I don't have  receipts of them:
Taemin, Seungkwan, Vernon, Jungwoo, Jokwon, Jaemin, Daehwi, Hwanwoong, Inho, Inpyo
 

speaking of jaemin, doesn't anyone have that video when they were playing a game where they have to say " i love you" to each other, and jaemin was confident with everyone and the moment ten looked at him, he became very gay panicked. It was very funny knowing how he doesn't hesitate to do fanservice usually

[Melany]

3 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

i'm literally gay

i hate heteros and i'm not being sarcastic

i just don't feel like bts is gay, since 2013 i never noticed anything about them that seemed sus nor worth mentioning

but i never said people are not allowed to think otherwise and I WISH they were FULL TIME GAY TIME but sadly this is something that i can't fully believe in

SINCE NO ONE ASKED FOR MY SUBTLE ANTI-GAY PROPAGANDA I WILL SHUT THE F UP SORRY FOR POOPING THE PARTY OK

i think too most of them are straight but i can see 2/3 being bisexual/bicurious. But that person sounded much like a troll, beside i dont think they ever posted here before, if they wanted to have a real discussion they would say smth like "i think the members are straight because..."

Also lmaooo @Bushi i hope you are not targeting me when you say "straight obsessive poster" when i literally just posted why i think sugar and tae are bisexual and not gay.  

[Melany]

no hate but this movie was literally made by a straight man for straight men. It didnt really had a good plot and was really oversexualizing lesbians. Most of lesbians doenst lie this movie. I wouldnt say this is a receipt,  just a straight man fapping to a lesbian porn

Edited November 17, 2019 by Melany

[Melany]

3 hours ago, skelten said:

wishful thinking

 

"we are actually really good people" LMAO

[Melany]

On 1/8/2020 at 10:51 AM, skelten said:

with the jimin in malta video, i can’t help but feel that if it was women instead of men that walked past, everyone would call him a womaniser and ladies man. and i bet some people here would use it as proof that he’s straight or not gay, but since it is men we can try to ignore it. i don’t really think it’s that serious either but just a thought

true, i feel the same, i think he is bi, but this video isn't an indication of anything. 
 

[Melany]

2 hours ago, chargerdine said:

Are you supposed to be talking to me? If so, this is pretty much the only thread I use on this website to comment. So if you’re expecting commentary in those it’s most likely never gonna happen, but I feel the same way. I’ve actually quite literally called out the over analyzing for BOTH in this thread. It was literally in my first comment about over analyzing. I’ve never used tarot at all so uh yeah. You tried but nah. 
“There’s too much over analyzing with their interactions with each other, women, and men when the obvious answer is right there. “ - me just last week in this thread lol

I’m sorry that I think posting links of Jimin flirting with his manager who is supposedly actually just Jungkook based on...absolutely nothing is over analyzing. I will unfortunately for you not stop my commentary in this thread. 

NOO don't crush their dreams!!!!! It's jimin talking to his bf secretly and pretend it's his manager because he doesn't want fans to know OmG YAOOOOOIIIIII it's so romantic :)))))

Im kidding nothing against Bushi or Persuasions, i was talking about the shipper commenting under the tweet

Edited January 13, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

On 1/13/2020 at 8:20 PM, Bushi said:

Daft. 

I've gotta admit I did wonder if it was an oops baby.

A good supportive statement from his company makes it all seem progressive, at least enough to hoodwink the starry-eyed I-EXOLs. But in reality I think it's far less about real progression and more about quickly marrying him off and shuffling it all back into respectable territory for the home audience.

They've still played it quite cleverly though, and it is good to see a company rally around their idol rather than throwing him under the nearest bus. I agree that any sort of 'official' LGBT announcement for an active idol would be in a different ballpark (and seems a long way off). But it doesn't stop idols dropping their own hints now and then.

 

It wasnt directed to you or the other user, I was talking about the twitter shippers in the comments

[Melany]

17 hours ago, VISION said:

what goes on...

 

friendly remember that those guys are the one who caused big debates with the mods whether we can or can't discuss them because they were underage  ( actually both are 18/19) love them

[Melany]

i can see everyone in nct being straight exept ten, he literally gives me only gay vibes. if he happen to be straight i i will feel like a clown 

[Melany]

33 minutes ago, seokseok said:

 

mans could've just pointed lmao, but why did he do that motion to express the word "anus" lmao i feel that theres a lot to unpack here

For context: they were playing a game trying to come up with words that start with certain letters, it was hobi's turn and jungkook was trying to give him a hint for the word anus lol

Wonder what did he mean by this

[Melany]

i believe the only group who can afford to come out is BTS, because they are the only one have a massive international (werstern)fanbase. Western fans will mostly support, i doubt even that they will reserve major backlash in korea since they are very big and cancelling them would be a big loss to korea economically and will affect korea image in the world. other group like exo,nct,blackpink have big sea fandoms (very conservative countries such as indonesia). I believe bts had make enough money to move out and settle outside korea. too bad bighit don't care about lgbt and only use it in a very vague way to queerbait fans and appear woke.

[Melany]

3 hours ago, liya18 said:

Taehyung's iterview oct 2019

How do you see yourself when you are older?

“I want to do singing or acting until I am 40. Afterwards, I want to live the rest of my life for my wife and my family. I want to be a cool old man who wears a brown beret and brown coat in the fall who goes to the park to feed shrimp chips to the pigeons.”

Am i the only who think taehyung is bisexual or pansexual? He is obviously lgbt but i wouldn't be surprised if he end up married. 

  Im sure of both tae and yoongi being queer (both bi) then maybe jimin

Edited February 19, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

don't attack me , but do you think taeyong is lee soman's sugarbaby? i mean the privileges are real, he is putting him in all nct units, always promote him when he is given the chance. Even after all taeyong scandal and all the netizen hating on him, he is still sooman's favourite and in the superm promotion he looks like a creep next to taeyong and taeyong looks uncomfortable sometimes. Maybe they are in a friend with benefits relationship. Again this is just a thought so please

Edited April 20, 2020 by Melany

[Melany]

8 minutes ago, skelten said:

NCT antis been saying this since forever and it’s always disgusting to see. Literally saying that Taeyong fucked his way into SM?? Especially since lee sooman’s wife died from cancer. Yikes

i didn't mean it in a bad way, also i like nct. I just thought of it being a possibility