Which male idols do you think are gay?

[lovergurl]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't even describe it. I was watching their showcase and he did this one move a certain way and it just clicked. lol. I was like "oh, that one guy is gay." Obviously being manly doesn't really have much with sexuality, his mannerisms are so revealing!

 

Neither does mannerisms necesssarily

[lovergurl]

true. But with Tao it does.

 

 

 

 

omg who is that in your sig? hahahaha

 

Eh idk, Tao can go either way to me. I can see why ppl think he's gay but I can see why ppl wouldn't. I agree with an earlier poster that said that at first look, he gives off the "manliest" vibe and look, not that that means he's straight but it wouldn't get ppl to automatically suspect him unless they looked deeper into Exo and Tao. Personally I had no idea ppl even thought he was gay until I read this thread on Hallyu8, he just didn't give me that vibe but again I  don't follow them closely. Whatever he is, I don't care bc he's still fine as hell.

 

 

The Fab Xiumin 

[lovergurl]

You know, I personally don't understand how that's even possible. Tao, manly (if the damn word even means anything)? Well, if you want to split hairs, maybe in the photos and trailers, but just a bit of observation makes my brain scream gay. (That is, if we use "manly" mostly as "the ability to pass as straight" -- which he has very little of.)

 

Well I put "manliest" is quotes for a reason, obviously your sexuality doesn't make you less man or manly than any other guy around. But then you have to consider that the only way most (mainly straight) ppl  can suspect or have an inkling of a person's sexuality without knowing them personally is if they fit certain sterotypes. If you're a non-sterotypical (as in not flamboyant) gay, most people prob wouldn't know your sexual orentiation or would assume you're straight due to simple case of probablity since the majority of the population is straight. If you're more sterotypical, you set off most ppl's radar. You just have to look at this thread to see who ppl suspect, almost all of whom would fit the flamboyant sterotype.

 

Tao doesn't fit into that sterotype unless you look more into him. Watching his teasers or in MV, he wouldn't automatically set most ppl's radar off. People would just assume he's straight since he fits I guess the sterotype of a "straight" guy and bc well probability. I watched like two Exo interviews ever and I didn't get anything from him that would make me think anything about his sexual orientation in general. He seemed more boyish and innocent than I imagined but that's it. But then gay ppl or ppl who have been around alot of gays tend to have stronger gaydars so that could be why there is a difference on our initial impressions of Tao.

[lovergurl]

 

Oh, and apparently...

 

Makes sense. Those fanaccounts seemed a little too excessive on the Taohun front 

 

In other more reliable news:

 

 

 Myungsoo & Sungjong's interview @ K-boy Paradise magazine:

• - Myungsoo said Sungjong is the maknae so he cant leave him alone/neglect him and has to take care of him more and more. Myungsoo is proud of Sungjong because he always does his best & always a nice and bright kid although the hyungs bother him a lot
• - Both Myungsoo and Sungjong said there is nothing about each other they want to fix, Myungsoo said Sungjong is really a good dongsaeng
• - Sungjong said he feel happy when hearing Myungsoo compliments him "you're cute" and "you're a good/nice kid"
• - Myungsoo "The reason why there are so many Sungjong's photos in my essay book is because he often stays next to me. While the other members have to hat or hat, Sungjong even looks not that different without make-up so taking pics of him is very easy" --> Sungjong "Thank you very much for taking many beautiful photos of me ♡"
• - Q: Your hobby? --> SJ: I like riding my bicycle along the Han River or at the park when the weather is good. Hyung next time do you want to come with me?
• --> MS: OK if next time the weather is good

 

 

Hello^-^

I’m Jjong~~~~♥

It’s been a long time so here is a selca with L hyung

I miss you guys, INSPIRITS ♡♥♡♥

 

 

L's Bravo Viewtiful:

 

Page 179

Usually before performing on stage, I take a lot of photos in the dressing room.

Since most of my time is spent with the other members, , they often become the focus of my photos.

But when I go to check my photos, most of them turn out to be of Sungjong, whose figure easily draws the attention of others.

It’s not that I am more caring towards him because he is the maknae, but simply that he is the best subject for my photography.

It’s a little strange when I look at photos of the maknae.

He resembles a cat, and it makes me want to comfort and take care of him.

You could say that I want to treat him with affection… *makes cute soothing noises*

 

[lovergurl]

The sad moment when people who don't live in Asia are just as ignorant as those netizens T.T

 

It's not just Asia. Homophobia is rampant in many countries outside of Asia as well. Atleast a good amount of Asian countries are making alot of progress, Africa is a whole another ball game.

[lovergurl]

I meant to write on this forum lol since most people here are open minded. I know homophobia doesn't only exist in Asia 

 

Ok, that changes things then lol. Sorry it just came off like a blanket statement that I didn't think was fair. 

[lovergurl]

 

I'm a big myungjong shipper also <3

 

Everyone is tbh. Too cute

[lovergurl]

I'm genuinely curious, why do people think Sehun is gay? 

[lovergurl]

Due to his hands and the way he acts with Tao. Not that it's a proof or anything, but yeah.

 

You mean his mannerisms? They are I guess sometimes on the flamboyant side but he doesn't seem to do it often imo. And in terms of how he acts with Tao,  do you mean that you think he actually has some kind of attraction towards him? 

[lovergurl]

 

Xiumin, Sehun, Kai, Suho, Kris, and Baekhyun. Mostly the presumed straight ones, with the honourable exception of Sehun. Either they don't know or they don't care, plus, how does he manage not to get hard? If they are telling the truth that is, which is a huge if.

 

Maybe he's just not attracted to any of his bandmates? Sehun too has showered with alot of the members before so idk. I'd find it weird that they're willing to shower with other men pretty frequently if they were gay just for the fear that at one point, it could physically out them in the case that they get a hard on.

[lovergurl]

maybe he masturbates beforehand

 

to be honest, though, the fear of getting discovered probably plays a role. and then as time went on he just got used to them and dgaf anymore.

 

But why risk it if he had the fear in the first place? That seems rather odd. Like I said, he could just not be attracted to any of them in that way or maybe he only showers with the ones he knows he won't have a boner for or maybe he's the type where it's hard for him to even get to the point of getting a hard on for someone or he does and the others don't care or he could not be into men in general. So many possibilities, who even knows

[lovergurl]

Luhan is definitely gay. There were fanaccounts saying that he hung out with gay people in high school and his clinginess to Sehun and femininity make it so obvious 

 

Erm but he doesn't even cling onto Sehun much? Xiumin is the one who he's always interacting with, Hunhan hasn't had much interactions at all since their debut era it seems. And he doesn't really come off as "feminine" to me, though he does seem to want to emphasize how he's the manliest in the group alot i guess bc he's always called pretty.

 

Luhan doesn't seem gay to me tbh, I think he's prob open-minded in the sense that he doesn't judge those who are gay and doesn't have a problem with homosexuals but he doesn't strike me as a homosexual himself. Neither does Kris. And I find it really weird that Taoris as a "real" couple ship is actually popular bc they're like the definition of big bro/lil bro relationship. It's almost like incest to me to put them together in a sexual manner.

 

I read a fanaccount where Xiumin said something like: "At first I thought that Tao is gay, but he's not, he's too handsome for that".

I mean, WTF, dude? 

 

Source? Bc people make up fanaccounts all the time, especially within the Exo fandom so I wouldn't jump to any judgements yet.

[lovergurl]

Damn Russian translators. I found the English translation http://en.korea.com/exo/board/121204infomore-translations-from-exo-m-youku-live-interview/

I don't even know how one can translate "girl" as "gay" 

 

Figured. I was thinking he prob said girl bc he told that story before about how Tao called him Oppa the first time they met (he didn't know only girls said it) and so he thought he was a girl. Mistranslations get spread all the time until they somehow turn into "facts" bc people jumped to conclusions way too quickly. It's happened to so many idols, it's really unfair. I wish people were more careful with this stuff

[lovergurl]

Exactly, he's Canadian. I can see him walk in a parade, but letting a gay guy between your thighs?

 

I can't imagine Kris as gay though, he just seems the type that's pretty chill about stuff like that. Like he doesn't ever really initiate skin ship with others, but he's ok with others doing so to him......plus he pretty much always lets Tao do and get away with anything and everything, he spoils him the most but idk if that's any indication of his sexuality moreso than him just letting Tao be. Any questionable stuff from Kris usually involve Tao and rarely, if at all with any other member.

Edited September 7, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I'm not saying I have a reading, what shocks me is how chill that would make him.

 

Ahh, it might just be bc it's Tao though. They seem really comfortable with each other so maybe he doesn't view it the same way as we would. I don't know if he would be as chill if it was anyone else.

[lovergurl]

You know, that's exactly my problem. Because I wouldn't find it strange with, say, Chanyeol. But it's Tao, the one who eats rainbows and shits glitter. There's no way Kris doesn't know. Call me closed-minded, but it flabbergasts me to no end.

 

So then what do you think it means? He might know and just doesn't care or maybe it's his way of making Tao feel more comfortable about his sexuality by being receptive to that level of skinship instead of shunning it? Idk, their relationship is odd but I've always seen them as super tight bros (they have that little bro big bro dynamic down to a T). 

Edited September 7, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I'm trying to figure out why people think Taohun is actually real? Like I know they're very touchy with each other and are the two most likely to be gay in Exo but nothing about them gives me any indication that they have anything between them other than a really close friendship. They just seem like two guys who have similar personalities, are around the same age, have the same role in the group, and have a lot of things they can connect on. In a lot of ways, they're prob the only two who can really understand best what the other would be going through bc of how many similarities they have (both maknaes, both dancers/rappers, both the same age, both have language barrier, both are sensitive/emotional, both clingy, both could possibly be gay etc.) and they're going through it at the same time so it prob brought them closer. But I don't see it as anything sexual, they really just seem like bffs which could be why they're so comfortable around each other.  

 

I will say though they have a much much MUCH higher chance of having actual sexual feelings for each other than the other popular OTPs of Taoris and Hunhan.....there is zero chances that those ships are real other than bromance, it's almost like incest to ship them sexually. 

Edited October 3, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

It's pretty funny how many people are convinced Taohun is real and on the other hand just as many people are convinced Taoris is the one that's real (idk about here but just in general). I don't believe either personally but Tao ships are def the most interesting in EXO, I guess bc they're more believable to most.

Edited December 8, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

 

Tbh TaoRis always seemed kinda one-sided to me. Like, Tao was feeling it, but Kris not so much.

 

With TaoHun it's just kinda in your face obvious that there's something going on. And not in the they-ship-themselves kind of way like KaiSoo, but in a "I'm sure they won't notice" kind of way.

 

 

goddamn TaoRis shippers are good at photoshop though 

 

 

 

Well the thing with Taoris is that apparently non-shippers have seen Kris act much more affectionate and overall different to Tao when the camera isn't on them then when it is. I think people think that given the way Kris kinda treats Tao alot differently than he treats the others, that he has other feelings for him other than bromance but while Tao is the type to be upfront and not hide it, Kris is the type that wouldn't show it publicly. So people are convinced that Kris is like in denial or just doesn't show it as often and that's supposedly what causes whatever little spats they apparently have (I guess they go from being all over each other to avoiding each other sometimes but personally I think people read too much into it, they don't have to be together every waking moment).

 

I mean given that Tao is a Taurus and Kris is a Scorpio, the above does fall in line with how their relationship dynamic would be (Tao is an open book, Kris is mysterious in terms of his emotions) so I guess I could see why people would think so but they really give me a big bro/little bro vibe that I really can't see them as anything else.

 

Taohun's obviousness is the reason why I don't think they're real. To me, there is like almost no way that if they were really together or knew they had feelings for each other that they would act that way so blatantly in public. They're just way too care-free right now to be real.

[lovergurl]

TaoRis definitely seem more brotherly. It seems like Tao used to have a crush on him (not sure about now), but that they've always just been friends.

 

I think the type of obviousness is what sells it for me with TaoHun though. As I said, it's not obvious in the same way as couples that ship themselves. It's obvious in a way that you can only really see if you're looking.

 

Idk, you don't really have to be looking with them. I agree they don't do it in a way where they're just playing up for fanservice bc neither of them are that type (they both seem like they have no time for bullshit and are rather pretty straightforward about everything in general) but still, they'd have to know that touching each other 24/7 the way they do would make people suspicious which leads me to believe that they're not real, they do it bc they don't feel there is anything to hide/protect. I think if they were together, they'd be more cautious. 

[lovergurl]

Most people don't seem to be that suspicious though. There are several official ships in EXO, and the average Korean has abysmal gaydar, so they can't really tell the difference between them and the ones shipping themselves like foreigners can... and SM doesn't really care about foreigners' opinions. It's "safe" for them to be touchy feely 'cause that's normal with idols. Hiding in plain sight 

 

That's true but I mean from Taohun's perspective, not from fans perspective. Even if they know that people in Korea wouldn't be suspicious, wouldn't they still be paranoid about being caught if they were actually real? I feel like given their careers and the society they live in, if they were in a relationship, I think it would change how they interacted even subconsciously bc that's what you naturally do when you are doing something that you know is considered not normal in your society and could end your career if ever found out. Especially given their age and inexperience, I don't think they'd be at a stage where they would think hiding in plain sight is a good idea......a more normal reaction would prob be dialing it back alot more until they figure out how to deal. Unless this whole relationship thing isn't new for either of them or they're smarter than I'm giving them credit for.

 

I will say though they're the only ship in EXO that even has a chance of being real. The chances of the others is less than zero imo.

Edited December 9, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

Considering how flaming Tao is, I think pretty much everything he does is dialed back a lot 

 

Lol I think Sehun is just as flaming honestly, and I think he holds back alot more than Tao since I think he's more conscious about image than Tao is. 

[lovergurl]

But if you watch Sehun, he is very aware of where the camera is and how things will come across. It's Tao that does a lot of the initiating simply because that's his personality and he lives in the moment. Tao isn't worried about being caught. Maybe he should be, but he's not? Because that's Tao personality. If he feels like touching Sehun (because I believe they are in love) then why not? That's Tao's point of view.

 

However, Sehun is quite reserved about it in public at least, generally speaking. He is more a reactor to things than proactive, and Tao is impulsive. So I think Sehun is probably a little worried that they might get caught? Simply because he is the one that grew in in Korea, and he is the youngest so is not as confident yet. But he isn't going to tell Tao to stop being touching feely, or if he has, Tao hasn't listened anyway. lol And it may seem in your face because TaoHun is posted here a lot, but a lot of their interactions are very subtle. Like, if you watch the very quick facial expressions and body language of Sehun, it really does tell a lot about how he feels about Tao, it being caught on camera, his confidence within himself in being gay.

 

They are filmed a lot of the time. They can't even catch a flight without being filmed. If Tao and Sehun are in love, then they are going to want to express it, be with one another, and physically touch. They are young and in love. It's not Tao's style to deny himself, and I think a lot of that philosophy has rubbed off and Sehun. It's also within the context of a lot of the other guys touching and being encouraged to touch one another. And I don't think it's a pushed ship like HunHan or KaiSoo (not saying those couples aren't good friends or don't have genuine moments.) It would be really odd for SM to push Tao and Sehun because they just don't have that cute, couple shipping factor on first glance. Anyway, they can always play it off as skinship and brotherly love, and SM will cover for them, and the media won't out them, so really, they don't have to worry about it that much.

 

IMO, TaoHun is ignored a lot in favour of HunHan. I don't know how good the average fans gaydar is though. I'm not sure how it is in the Korean fandom though. I don't even know whether they have strongly picked up on TaoHun?

 

Not internationally. Actually Taohun seems to be a bigger ship now, people have been all over them ever since their Wolf comeback. Hunhan as a romantic ship is pretty dead at this point (internationally). Fans have to like scrounge to get "moments" from them now. China loves them though. Idk about what Korea ships. ChanBaek seems kinda dry now too internationally, the only original popular OTP that still seems to be a thing is Taoris for whatever reason. All the ships kinda got switched around with their comeback.

 

I actually don't think it'd be odd for SM to push the two cute, sassy, maknaes together in terms of shipping. It actually makes sense bc they're essentially the Korean and Chinese versions of each other but I think bc Hunhan and Taoris were the ships that took off first given they had a chance to interact in front of fans first, they'll keep going with those ships and leave Taohun be.

Edited December 9, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

 

The direction of his eyes don't look like he was actually looking at Kai though, he looks like he was looking at the side or something. 

 

I feel creepy looking at this gif set though.

Edited December 16, 2013 by lovergurl

[lovergurl]

I bet he was looking out of the corner of his eye while trying to look like he wasn't looking 

 

Maybe. He looks more like he's slightly laughing at how uncomfortable the whole situation is more than anything though. It's weird to have your bandmate undress in front of you while people are taking photos and you're suppose to be posing lol.