jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 There are a million reasons to think someone is gay, studying modern dance or the arts is not one of hem. JC no wonder everyone avoids this place. Sent from my iPhone using OneHallyu mobile app but i feel like some of yall are hypocrites because some (not all) people in here shout "gay" at even the most obscure interactions that indicate nothing about sexuality... and this is coming from someone who's gay lol 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Just because some people are hypocrites doesn't mean everyone should join in and not call them out. It is beyond absurd the way people will label someone as gay just because they don't fit into the "norm" and vice a versa with people saying someone is too "manly" to be gay. A guy into the arts, a girl not into "girly" stuff doesn't automatically mean that a person is gay, we need to shut crap like that down asap. Sent from my iPhone using OneHallyu mobile app i absolutely agree, but what im saying is, some people in here cant act like any kind of moral authority when they label every other idol gay for doing random shit. i just think that's late, imo. and it's no shade. let me be clear, as for the contemporary dance thing, i agree with you and everyone else in that doing something artistic or more "feminine" doesnt make you gay. Edited April 17, 2017 by MMHH 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) he's on my radar. <3 I don't want to start Discourse, but...is anyone skeptical of this? Joo Hyuk and Jisoo had a lot of rumors last year. Also, when Joo Hyuk complained in an interview that Jisoo wasn't calling him because "He's so into Hyung Sik now." Doesn't really sound like someone who just got their own girlfriend? Idk it just seems pretty convenient. I'm always skeptical though when companies announce that celebrities are dating when they don't have to. I've seen too many PR relationships in the American entertainment industry, past and present. Anyway! Here's Jungkook reading a comment from a fanboy: lol this was such a taehyung-inspired response. guess it's true what they say, that you start becoming like the people that you're close to XD Edited April 25, 2017 by MMHH 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 daniel kang of produce 101 season 2 <3 24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Sorry for the long ass analysis but people keep saying #FriendshipGoals and yeah, okay, sure, just bros hanging out in flower field taking bro pictures counting bro time up to the specific minute of separation being the ultimate bro they are id do this with my straight guy friends tho lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 You're Doing Exactly What I Said Some Of You Are Guilty Of: Determining Sexuality. How Do You Know I'm Straight? Being Gay Doesn't Absolve Anyone From Wrong Behavior, Nor Does It Give The Right To Determine Another's Preference.Sexuality Is A Personal And Sensitive Topic That Many People Struggle With. Gay People Who Determine Another's Person's Sexuality Are No Better Than Straight People Who Do It.The Keyword is Determine. I'm All For Theories And Opinions, I Draw the Line At Creating Rumors, Exaggerating, And Presenting Opinions As Facts To prove Another's Sexual Identity. I'm not trying to take part in this conversation, but I just wanted to ask.... no shade but is it really necessary to type in all caps??? My eyes are burning 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Have you watched the video though? I think someone way back had discussed about how it radiates "young and in love" but maybe you could pass it of as "Bromance" in some culture, although I doubt so. Where do you live, by the way? Culture plays some impact on things like this, and coming from the East Asian country with masculinity stigma, I had not found any straight male friends who would do this with each other. I was born in Canada but I'm Chinese and 99% of all my friends are Chinese, Korean, or from Hong Kong/Taiwan. Not all of my straight friends would do it because it looks "too gay" but I def have some straight guy friends that can go out with me 1 on 1 and take cute pictures like that lol I do agree that V and Bogum do look very couple-y, but I doubt they would both agree to post everything on social media if they were real due to having to maintain a heterosexual image. Edited May 6, 2017 by MMHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Yes, of course, but we also have Gunhee and Heechul — whom a lot of people on this thread had discussed of being a gay couple — who repeatedly posted pictures of themselves on social media. Moreover, the social media mask would be an appropriate measure to conceal it, rather than them going to Jeju by themselves and having fans caught them and no further reports from themselves. It would add more to the suspicion, perhaps in a sense that "Wow I met V and Bogum in Jeju and they're there all by themselves and did not clarify anything about it afterwards, are they dating?" speculations might've arose. Of course, the nature of the friendship itself is dependant on V and Bogum whom both came from traditional upbringing — V was raised in the country while Bogum was raised with what I assume to be a religious environment — and I have zero opinion on those culture and the behaviour of the children raised within those environment, as I am born in the city side, but even if it was a friendship outing, I would still support them no matter what. Another thing, though, both are incredibly busy person who barely has time to sleep, and this wasn't really the first time they chose to spend time with each other instead of taking a break, and putting that into account, it would most likely change things as even the "straight guy friends" surrounding me would prefer to spend their breaks by themselves, or with their girlfriends, alas, in this case, boyfriends. Take into consideration, after slaving yourselves for 2 months in exam matters and you are given the opportunity for a 3 day break, I doubt "hanging with bros" is the first thing in mind. Although this would all be just another speculation and we will never know for sure. I feel like you're trying too hard to string everything into a gay narrative. Keep in mind, I'm not a delusional fangirl, I'm a gaysian myself. But to be real, V is a very outgoing celebrity and he has a lot of celebrity friends with who he hangs out with one on one. A possible reason as to why he specifically chose to show his relationship with Bogum is because Bogum is extremely popular and has widespread public appeal in Korea, so linking himself and therefore the rest of BTS with Bogum would be very good PR from a business perspective. I do think their friendship is genuine but I don't see anything out of the ordinary about it. And it's funny you ask me to put myself in that scenario, because I finished my exams not too long ago and I've been planning to go out with one of my friends for weeks in advance already. He's a Korean, a guy, and a year younger than me, but he's straight as an arrow. But because we don't have any overlapping friends between our social circles, we just go out on outings together, 1 on 1. And we eat together and have conversation, just us two. We think of each other immediately after we're done exams not because we're romantically interested in each other, but because we've been friends for a few years now, and we enjoy each other's company. I think V and Bogum may be a similar case, where they're both very different but through their outgoing personalities, managed to befriend each other. And because they don't have any mutual friends, they just go out by themselves. Heechul and Gunhee were a different case, because they took everything to an extreme, and all that to me was very suggestive. Yunho and Jaejoong are another prominent past example. But the evidence for V and Bogum is still, in my opinion, not as conclusive. However, I still agree that the possibility of them being gay does exist, and I respect your opinion <3 20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 kinda out of topic, but taiwan has finally legalized marriage equality!!! people like to think that japan is a leader in lgbt but really, it's taiwan. TAIWAN <3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 whaaaat? who would think that? My straight friends that like hentai LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I would like to apologise for my analysis on Jaehyun and comparing him to Siwon since it doesn't seem to match up. I will stop my NCT analysis right now because I believe it's wrong, and I shall leave it to those who know NCT much better than I do. NCT isn't my forte and I've watched a few series at most, including their rookie days but haven't really sticked to fan account at fan signing like most of you did, so my analysis is invalid. I will do more analysis when I've read into them more. I'm sorry honey u dont need to apologize lol even though your opinion may be in the minority (as mine usually is), dont ever feel like you have to silence what you think just because it isn't popular! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Nobody in nct seems gay to me lol Except winwin and Kun They gay YASSSSS. my two favs. STAN THESE CHINESE BOIS!!!!! Edited June 20, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'm almost sure that this has been covered. But Sex really is a priceless gift. are u joking or are u serious lol although i have to say, the first thing i thought of was a dildo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I know a lot of you are interested in NCT Mark, I stumble upon a show he appeared in thinking it was a boy version of Somi's drama ... Little did I know what I was about to discover ... he went to a blind date with a guy, a singer, called Park Jaejung he is one of the winner of Superstar K5 The first 3 episodes of the show are literally about him talking about how much he is into Mark before finally meeting him I don't know if it was for the sake of entertainment and cameras that he is acting so weird or just a strange way to promote NCT that SM came up with ... I strongly recommend you to watch the series, his "obsession" with boygroup started because he wanted to be like them to meet his ex girlfriend's standard That's what he said but I personally still find this weird. I won't spoil what he did for Mark but let's say that he is definetely Boyfriend material. http://www.vlive.tv/video/34043/ I wish I was Mark, this is the perfect date I didn't know about Jaejun but now I won't forget tho Can't help but to compare this situation to JB and that BAP guy and how respectful Mark was despite all the awkwardness compare to JB who was an ass with his actual friend ... Parc Jaejung is gay. And I never say this lol but I just know it in my spirit he is lol Daehwii and .... ? LOL Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) this is the first time posting here, i've been lurking this thread some times now. sorry for the random reply, but is this video you are talking about? both jaemin and haechan hugging mark while lying down. we all know haechan is very agressive with fanservice (esp with mark), but i noticed that jaemin always genuinely seeking attentions from mark and jeno. nobody in dream pings me except renjun, a little. but even then, not so much lol maybe it's just because all the dreamies are young af, but none of them seem gay to me at least. nct127 on the other hand... can anybody who follows exo give me solid opinion on them? we all pretty much agree on baekhyun, but for the rest, not so much. especially on confusing members (kyungsoo, jongin, xiumin)? ive followed exo very closely but only from 2012-2014. im not sure how much as changed, but cracking open the ol' gaydar that i had back in the day, all of them (including the ex-members) are 100% straight to me, except for tao and sehun, who i think are both gay, and baekhyun, who i think is bi. nobody else pings me remotely lol Edited July 3, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The sexual tension between them in their dance was A+++ I agree. Jung Jung is so natural omg he looks like he's ready to make out then and there Eunki seems like a good kid, just apparently a little clingy in love ahaha. I hope he finds a cute boy who likes him too~ none of the YH boys ping me except jungjung. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Not even Hyungseob? He's tricky. But I think he's just a feminine straight guy lol. If you compare him to JungJung for example it's like night and day :p 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Just asking, what makes you think he's straight when he had repeatedly shown interest in men? He behaves like he has a genuine crush on Ong in the early episodes of Produce 101. Did an aegyo for a hyung when the viewers asked him to do an aegyo. Called Daniel so sexy that even guys could fall for him in their Taxi episode. Did he show some interest in woman before? Because I might miss one or two things, but if anything, isn't he the main gay king of Produce besides Daehwi? In fact, he's shown more interest in men of Produce than Daehwi did. Tell me if I've missed something though ( ´ ▽ ` ) Also, yes on Jung Jung, that dance with Eunki got me sold Just because you've never seen him show interest in women doesn't mean he's never shown interest in women in his life or off camera. Last time I checked, the cast of Produce 101 was made up of 101 boys lol it's not like anyone had many opportunities to interact with girls other than their trainers, which have 10+ years on them. Some trainees showed interest in the female vocal trainer, but just because you're straight doesn't mean you're attracted to every girl alive. I also always take what I see on "reality shows" with a grain of salt, because the PD could easily have made up some kind of side storyline between trainees. As for the aegyo thing, he didn't really have much choice since he was asked lol and calling Daniel sexy doesn't really say anything to me. I'm only sexually attracted to guys but I think some women are sexy too. Don't get me wrong Hyungseob is definitely on the feminine side and of course, there is a possibility he could be gay. But I know guys like him in real life lol and he just strikes me as fem and straight, with a bit of a manly complex. I don't have any receipts for this by the way (and I'm not doing the whole straight until proven gay thing before anyone says I am), I'm just going off of my personal vibe. But I'd happily welcome him into the gaysian community LOL For PD101 I think the gay ones are just Daehwi, JungJung, and maybe Eunki (so far). imo, Daniel is bi. Edited July 13, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 These videos were discussed here before. I'm not sure if it was just a coincidence, but it really looks like he is flirting with the guy who is shooting the fancam. He wouldn't stop looking towards the camera! I think this was the first time I've seen him focusing on the same spot during a performance (not including the ones who are broadcasted to the TV, because obviously he would be looking to the cameras). In other fancams, he always looks down and other places. i really just think he was performing as normal lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 For BTS members, Rap Moster : Straight / strong LGBT supporter Yoongi: Bi Hoseok: Straight / Even volunteering for the fan service, he is not the supporter. Jimin: Bi Seokjin: Homoflexible Taehyung: Gay/bi Jungkook: Demisexual wtf is homoflexible lol 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Describes someone attracted primarily to members of the same sex (homosexual), but occasionally attracted to members of the opposite sex AND/OR able to derive pleasure from romantic encounters with members of the opposite sex. Homoflexibility is related to, but different from bisexuality in that homoflexiblepersons most often identify as gay or lesbian, despite occasional relations with members of the opposite sex. The term may sometimes be appropriate as a synonym for bi-curious, where the individual in question is primarily homosexual. The term "heteroflexible" was first developed to describe primarily heterosexual persons who occasionally enjoyed hooking up with members of the same sex. "Homoflexible" later began to be used as a parallel term as defined above. UD example "Hey I just hooked up with Grace!" "Aren't you gay?" "Nah man, I'm homoflexible. I find some girls hot." i still dont understand the difference between "homoflexible" and bi... 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) they don't even get to choose their own haircuts, or outfits, much less concepts. Surely the photographer wasn't like, here's a rainbow unicorn now do what you want I'll just stand over here. I'm not saying they're not often touchy-feely and cute together, they are, it's adorable, but people on here interpret way too much into official company content or fanservice. Sex sells, and in Korea that mostly means not with the opposite sex cause the fans would riot. You think GOT7 "no homo" JB came up with the borderline gay photo shoot he and Jinyoung did for their comeback? idk, I think this thread isn't for me lol. It's mostly shipping, I thought it was more actual analysis/discussion. ^ this so much. this thread used to be a lot more analysis and discussion on REAL reciepts. now people just interpret interactions in ways that align with their own ships. its almost like reading fanfics at some point. like, is anyone here actually gay anymore? or have actually been in a real-life relationship? Edited August 21, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) Can we please stop automatically labeling people as straight unless we have the same amount of "evidence" as it would take to convince us to suspect someone of being gay (if not even more to compensate for the pressure that society places on people to be straight)? If they "don't ping" or you don't know can we please just say that outright rather than jumping to "straight"? Can we stop labeling people as bi unless we have reason to suspect that they are attracted to males and females? I am begging you guys. It's that important. I think that when most people assume someone to be straight, it's not because they're homophobic or whatever lol but because statistically there are far more straight people in the world than there are gay people, and there often isn't an immediate indicator to someone's sexual orientation just by looking at them or from passing by them on the street. In daily life, it's unreasonable to assume everyone to be asexual until they show interest in men and/or women, so it just becomes a habit for many straight and gay people to assume heterosexuality. I mean I get that heteronormative thinking can sometimes be a problem, but in some cases it comes from an innocent place and not ignorance. Like, I'm a gay male and when I'm on the subway or something or walking down the street in the city, unless it's pride week or I'm walking into a gay neighborhood, then I'm automatically going to subconsciously label other people as straight, because that's just... how the world is lol it's like Pokemon. I'm not going to expect to encounter a shiny every time a Pokemon jumps out at me in tall grass. In the grand scheme of things, gays are rare (even in Kpop, though the shiny encounter rate could be slightly higher). So don't be too sensitive about it lol Edited August 23, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I want to reiterate that the final third of my comment wasn't directed at you; I wasn't saying that you labeled him as bi and I definitely didn't say or even imply that bi people are rare or that there's anything wrong with bisexuality (???). What I said amounts to "let's not label anyone straight unless we have reason to believe they like the opposite gender. Let's not label people as bi unless we have reason to believe they like males and females. Let's apply the same standards as far as proof" which I feel is pretty straightforward, logical and ultimately harmless. The parts that pertained to you specifically was mentioning that it is questionable for a male to prefer male attention (which was a general thought and not about Jinyoung) so as a general rule of thumb, we don't need to dismiss that just on principle and the part addressing the different levels of "proof" people seem to need to believe that someone is straight vs. what they need to believe someone is of another orientation. To be fair you didn't directly call him straight but if someone responds to another user's comment that someone might be gay with "your gaydar failed you" and then follows it up with "the most i'll take is bi-curious", it's reasonable for someone to believe that you're implying that he's straight because you're seemingly ruling out the possibility of him being gay and the possibility of him being bi (with bi-curious being a maybe at best). Now if that implication was unintentional and you believe that he could indeed be gay or bi or another orientation, or you thought he could be another orientation then I apologize, but the implication is there. Confusion may arise from me not clarifying a few things (these are numbered not for condescension but to help me keep track of the points): 1. I don't often "ship" people -- and never really seriously -- so I'm not really jumpy about being labeled a shipper. My comment wasn't about a ship. 2. I don't know much about Jinyoung or Daehwi. I only know that friends of mine from Korea have mentioned that they find some of their actions -- and the two individually -- questionable. That's all I have to go off of. But yes, I view that as having more weight than him posting about a celebrity. 3. I don't mean to offend anyone but I could not possibly care any less whether or not other people take this thread seriously. I think we need to be applying the same standards to everyone. If people don't like that then I'm sorry I guess but it won't alter the fact that I think it's the right thing to do. 4. I'm also not phased by us discussing Jinyoung's orientation simply because he's a minor. This isn't an 18+ thread to my knowledge and the vast majority of comments here do not veer into inappropriate territory. People have no qualms about discussing the crushes and dating of straight celebs. I see discussing possible other orientations as no different. I appreciate the thought but homophobia wasn't quite what I was getting at. And while I know that the overwhelming majority of people are straight (though there are likely more LGBT+ people than one might think given that a lot of research is based on self-identification), there's enough people of other orientations to justify us knowing better and not labeling people immediately without cause. I also think that there is a difference between knowing that most people are straight and labeling individual people as straight without reason. I'm not trying to attack people...let's just be consistent with our standards and keep it moving. It's not a negative thing at all. Girl it's not that deep to me lol but I can understand where ur coming from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Since we are in this, these are my opinions of other W1 member Jihoon: I was absolutly convinced that he was straight at least during the time i watched pd101, but now seeing him more like himself and less like the character that PD want to show of him in the show. I think he is confused, I think he is passing for that time of self dicovery and he is starting to understand what he likes and what no. I think he is gay but he is still in conflict for that. Daehwi: LOL this boy is totally gay for me, some people think that maybe because he is so young most of his actions could be misunderstood but it's not the case I think he likes boys Jaehwan: Straight 100% like those straight who talk a lot about females with their friends and how pretty is their new clasmaste LOL Ong: he is like Daniel for me... to my eyes he looks straight but sometimes he don't (Ongniel LOL) I think he is straight but open to experienced new thing. Guanlin: Straight, all people say that he is gay but i dont think so... for me here applies the case that I spoke in Daehwi, that he is still young and most of his actions are misuderstood. Guanlinnie is alone in Korea, and these hyungs are the only family that he have there, that's why he act so closely with them Jisung: He confuse me a little, I know he was raised with a lot of womans and that could be a reason for his behavior, but still... sometimes I think he must be gay or bi.... left it in bi. Minhyun: This little cutie pie... sometimes I think he could be asexual, or straight but no gay Baejin: mmmm bi, I think he likes both, the way he act with Daehwi is a little suspicious, but in the other way I know about his past as a fanboy of some female idols so... I will say bi Sungwoon: Auntie <3 he is straight for sure yeah im kind of on board with this, everyone seems straight to me except daehwi (he in particular gives me christian-boy-so-far-backed-up-in-the-closet-that-he-cant-even-see-the-light kind of gay) and maybe jihoon. about jisung, the vibe he gives me is prissy acting straight boy who's into makeup and fashion lol Edited August 30, 2017 by WinWin's Favourite Ge 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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