Which male idols do you think are gay?

[honeymaple]

 

Sorry to be that person, but isn't it the same Vlive in the end of which there were some interesting sounds + female voice calling "Jimin" and Jungkook opening the door to wisper intensively "Cut it (meaning Vlive)!!!" to Tae? It's btw one of the reasons why I still stick to the idea of Jimin being bi instead of gay.

 

 

I can't hear that person says "Jimin"? Jimin's voice very clearly in 14:03 just before the Jungkook door close (talking then "wooo"), then many people's random sounds while V's standing at's own door. Japanese mens conversation, girl moaning, door, person whispering, footsteps, then V ends the broadcast.

Edited July 23, 2017 by honeymaple

[honeymaple]

 

 

It's there, I can hear it even without my headphones on, so clear it sounds)

http://www.vlive.tv/video/11149?channelCode=FE619

Even if at 14:03 was Jimin's voice, it sounds too far away or too unclear (like from closed door) to be from Jungkook's room, cause Tae was still too close to it so the camera would record it properly plus he left the room with the door open (and even the door in the bathroon was open enough for a sound of a voice to be louder in that case if Jimin was hiding in the bathroom), and at 14:04 - 14:05 there was loud sound of closing door, it's definitely JK's. Then .............. Tae coming to his door and at 14:11 - 14:12 there was a sound of an opening door but very accurate (like someone trying to look out from the room very silently), then very-very queit whispering sound (notice how Tae raised his eyes on the speaker when whispering started at 14:14), but apperantely he didn't get what Kookie wanted from him, so JK probably had to step out of the room (so door closed again at 14:17, you can even compare that sound with the one at 14:05, it's the same) and with gestures (notice how Tae's gaise went to the different side of the corridor) explain again + that louder intensive whispering at 14:18. and right after that Tae started to speak in a rush and at 14:25 - 14:26 right before Tae changed camera mode, here you go, woman's "Jimin") I hope it helps, just listen carefully) I really don't know what else can be heard at that moment..

Btw I am still very positive that Jimin likes men too, probably he even prefer them over women nowadays.

 

 

 

Oh, I was able to heard the "Jimin"!

 

But it's sounds to be in the hallway? Maybe it's a staff who stayed the nearby room? I don't know a room configuration. The whisper could to be a man or woman, maybe that's a same woman who's says "Jimin"? Could maybe watched the broadcast, then came out to scold to V and Jungkook and Jimin for an irresponsible behaviors.

 

For me it's sounding like Jimin's talking from the Jungkook's room. Even not though, that's really Jimin's items in that room, if JImin's not there why's his items are there? Maybe's not needing a shirt and a shoes (why's in Jungkook's room though???), but what's about his phone? If's not Jimin, who's in the room while Jimin's stuffs are in there?

 

 

[honeymaple]

I'm speak Korean conversationally and can confirm a translation.

 

The tweets conversation

Supremeboi: When I listen Macklemore&Ryan Lewis-Same Love even I don't endorse homosexuality I touched the heart. Macklemore&Ryan Lewis rap technique's aside, it's like very cool musicians.

BTS_twt: I told you so, how cool is it, album's all cool!

Bang PD: These people are homosexuals?

BTS_twt: Bang PDnim's thinks I'm look homosexual ã… ã…  ha

Bang PD: No I'm asked Macklemore&Ryan Lewis homosexuals?

BTS_twt: Ahhh no just homosexuality supporters~ last part of a lyrics "damn right i support it."

 

 

 

Like, at the same time or?  

Just kidding. No idea if that's true, but he wouldn't be the first gay guy to experiment with girls (Jaejoong's pre-debut girlfriend, anyone?). He could be bi too, or mostly romantically attracted to boys, but still enjoying sex with both. 
The idea of Sehun with a girl though... It seems a bit surreal.

 
I heard the rumor about that was a girlfriend SM gave to him because of a really gay behaviors pre-debut. I'm don't know if that's true but's seems like plausible thing?
 
After all he had did such a situations like this

(Two cool mens~ Eunjae/Jaejoong.)

 

 

[honeymaple]

Ah, these photos... Considering the placement in the second one, I'm not even sure they were kissing, but that's clearly suspicious. I'm still wondering to this day why no one seems to remember them. 

Does anyone know where this Eunjae now? 

 

(and that's not one of his sisters this time). 

It seems a bit unlikely that SM gave him a girlfriend pre-debut, told him to walk with her in the streets, where he got randomly interviewed with her... But maybe... I mean, that's SM after all... 

 

 

Edit:

 

Reminds me of this: He did basically come out there, right?? (10'45) He's saying his ideal type is a guy, and even checks with a someone ( a manager I guess) if he can say it. Or maybe this is all scripted since Yunho knew and wouldn't out Jajoong like this. Maybe this was a private joke? 

 

 

It's just rumor about the girlfriend, could be be at the time in his life he thought about himself maybe bisexual, or could to be many another reasons. But unrelated to her, such a "random" interview's common at that time to arranged for trainees. "Who is that hot guy? He must be idol or model! Oh trainee? I will wait the debut!" Purpose is exposure. Now's using more the social media for that purpose.

 

I thinks Jaejoong was never in the closet but company forced to him to be. That's just my opinion, but it's seems many some idols want to coming out but can't because of contracts.

 

 

Hmmm hard to find some information about Eunjae but's name Jung Eunjae, debuted in the ballad group called 루그 (lug) but left after first single to join military. No informations after that, maybe he quit to be entertainer?He lived with Jaejoong in the pre-debut and people's said Yunho did said they cared a lot to each other, but I'm can't find that interview.

  

Some Eunjae's images

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh looking at old pictures the DBSK I feel very nostalgic now 

[honeymaple]

When Taehyun said "it's the minority", was he referring to sexual minorities or Daehwi being a minor? Anyway, I hope Daehwi continues to confuse his hyungs~

 

And Donghan pings me as well. I bet he wanted in on those private introductions to "people of the same type" too.

 

He's said minority like 소수ìž, literal meaning's "small number person". Minor would be the 미성년ìž, which's meaning "not yet grow years person" 

[honeymaple]

(big picture)

 
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"He's always positive and, striking with 130% and trying exceed the limits in everything, that point's a charm. No heart beating though. Because...... I'm not fluttering when's between men! (lol)"
 
It's the very lighthearted statement. Not homophobic, only speaking for about himself. But's different to a time before in Oricon, maybe he did got some troubles for lowkey coming out? Was very obvious 

[honeymaple]

Well, from what I can tell most k-fans didn't think much of his Oricon interview? And I remember reading a discussion about BTS in a Korean gay community and nobody mentioned him (I think they mainly talked about Taehyung). But idk who knows, maybe there were some issues or maybe he just said it for no reason whatsoever.

 

I'm thinking Suga's not so popular among gays in Asia.

 

BTS's different from many the companies and groups, really to paying attention in international fans. Knowing about the many the i-fan's memes and gossips. Could to be maybe a pressure for international image, especially considering about American spotlight.

 

Just some hypothetically speaking, it's soooo tired can't sleep 

[honeymaple]

My post it's gone????? 

[honeymaple]

there were actually three different translations, and two of them were of the "we're both men, why would my heart flutter" variety. sorry, and while i want it to be, i don't think "i don't flutter for guys" is the most accurate version 

 

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Correct translation's "because I'm not flutter when's between men! (lol)"

 

Please don't support false translation about it  

 

For Korean it's the quite similar ë‚˜ëŠ”, 남ìžë¼ë¦¬ëŠ” ë‘근거리지 않으니까! ã…‹ã…‹

(This's my own translation not an official words of Suga)

Grammar's and word's almost to identical for Japanese and Korean in such a situations, very easy to directly translating without losing nuance, so I'm trusting the Japanese translation.

 

[honeymaple]

Hmmmmmm I'm still think about

Jimin― gay

V― gay

J-Hope― gay or bi

Jungkook― bi

Suga― bi

Jin― mysterious person (gay if by stereotypes lol)

Rap Monster― mysterious person

 

I'm really not so sure about Jin and Rap Monster, but Rap Monster's seriously my type and just going my my instinct if we did met at the club I think I'm comfortable about hitting onto him 

[honeymaple]

i don't think anyone apart from a very small handful of people think jongkey are a thing anymore. 

 

I thought's broked up then reunited?

[honeymaple]

yeah, not everyone believes they're back together. 

 

 

edit: there's just no credible evidence to support the idea that they got back together.

 

I didn't said everybody believes, but I thought it's a popular idea 

[honeymaple]

Random question, but I saw in the op that you mentioned EXO's They Never Know as a gay song, but why??? Same with Taehyun's I'm Young. I just don't understand, so?

 

I'm Young used the male/neutral pronoun ê·¸ instead the female 그녀.

 

ê·¸ì—ê² ë‚´ê°€ ì§ì´ì•¼

ê·¸ì—ê² ì•„ì§ ê¿ˆì´ ìžˆì–´

 

"For him I'm burden

For him he's still has dreams"

 

Can be "for them" but's more likely interpretation about "him"

[honeymaple]

 

I'm still thinking Suga and Jungkook's couple in BU universe (universe for Love Yourself, Wings, HYYH is a same one that BU alternate universe). Some those girls is some bait and switch for fans "oh girls!" but not romance   

 

 

[honeymaple]

I did found some theory for about BTS gay theme in comebacks, that's okay to post to here?

 

https://grandninjakingdom.tumblr.com/post/164256126513/jungkook-suga-jimin-hyyhwingslove-yourself

 

Took soooo long in a read (may be some parts is not 100% understand) but... I'm believe about 

[honeymaple]

It came!!!!!

 

 

 

Eddy sit's the man (some's said that's Hoik??) 

 

[honeymaple]

 

 

LOL Jungkook   You just proved he is right 

 

 

Jungkook waited for a some several minutes then putted it on after cut. Probably a staff said to him to "wear it". Please don't to be dishonest about.

[honeymaple]

That unicorn's now appearing around in everywhere   

 

(big)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gay Hit icon 

 

[honeymaple]

He likes to act pretty lately

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jungkook Rap Monster facial expression's so different 

[honeymaple]

 

8:07 Jungkook want's collaborate Troye Sivan

[honeymaple]

It's okay to post to here? About "ship" but some real the evidences, ignore please if it's not like

 

 

 

Instead of a fanservice or some etc she focus to the body languages. Because of a mouth's language of brain, butbody's language of heart! She's student of human behavior at the university.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's a think?

 

 

[honeymaple]

Why negs?? It's some real evidence I posted, not the fanservice. That's what's you asked for but then negs...?

[honeymaple]

jongkey flirty chatting/Key body language to it: okay evidences! many green!

wanna one skinships/body language to it: okay evidences! many green!

jikook body language analyses from student of that subject: go away shipper! red red red!

 

If you disagree about it's something okay but why just to saying to go away but it's exactly a same thing... I'm not post any of just normal skinships or fanservices because I know this's not some shipping thread, only for real evidences/suspicious things. Please be consistent with a judgments.

[honeymaple]

So Pentagon's Kino (who pings for a lot of us) wrote a song called "It's Over." Take a look at the lyrics:

 

 

 

“I think it’s over it’s over

Yeah it’s over it’s over

I think it’s closer than love.

It is the feeling

Do you belong or why?

It’s still in our minds.

Obviously the time has passed.

Wounded past abandoned

I’ve already had time to go back.

Yeah, I sure did.

Everything is numb.

I had to put my hand first.

He said he was not done yet.

I shouted and said no.

Baby I think it’s over it’s over

Yeah I know you love me

Love me you love me

But baby I think it’s over it’s over

I’m sorry for it’s over it’s over

I used to say only what you did not want to hear.

And you can not lie

I do not think I’ll be sorry.

He asked me a hundred times if this was right.

It’s better than that.

It’s just the way you look at it.

Put your hands on tight. Now you’re real.

I’m used to it. I’m already numb.

Everything is numb.

I had to put my hand first.

He said he was not done yet.

I shouted and said no.

Baby I think it’s over it’s over

Yeah I know you love me

Love me you love me

But baby I think it’s over it’s over

I’m sorry for it’s over it’s over

The movie is over.

Looking at me now

I’ve already collapsed and try to grab something.

I’m having a hard time swallowing my breath.

It’s over it’s over

Yeah I know you love me

Love me you love me

But baby I think it’s over it’s over

I’m sorry for it’s over it’s overâ€

 

 

 

Here's the song if anyone here can understand Korean and wants to check?

 

 

It's no pronouns so can go either way. Not correct or incorrect.

[honeymaple]

My friend's model and dancer said to me opinion about BTS (is's not ARMY):

 

Gay: Jimin

Bi: J-Hope, Suga, Jungkook

About J-Hope: "He's definitely bi, but he acts really fucking gay, to the point where I almost thought he was at first. Not sure why he'd be doing that in a country like Korea, but to each their own I guess."

 

No opinion about anothers. And of course, it's just opinion.

 

 

 

By the way I'm gay boy, friend's bisexual boy