Which male idols do you think are gay?

[KiriL]

I second that!

 

Also, does anyone know if these are fake subs? They probably are, but idk:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, so I got curious, cause I don't really remember that part, and here are 2 translations (both translators are very respectable imo).

At 55:41

 

At 5:02 (imo this translator is always more detailed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7UOSNsHN0Y

Tbh I think they cracked not because of associations some might have with bananas lol, but exactly because back then Kookie fought with Jin even over such a little thing like banana (like, it's just a fruit, why so serious), cause it's like a nonsense to fight over a fruit. But who knows, of course.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2018 by KiriL

[KiriL]

'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYQony0Hi-o

 

 

Alright what are everyone's thoughts on Monsta X? 

 

I'll start off:

 

Shownu: bisexual

Minhyuk: gay

Wonho: bisexual or gay

Kihyun: gay

I.M.: gay

Jooheon: bisexual or gay

Hyunwon: bisexual 

 

Tbh I haven't seen much of recent Monsta X content, but for now my opinion is next:

 

Hyunwon: straight (might be bi-curious)

Kihyun: straight

Shownu: I didn't have any opinion on him, because he is too calm and barely reacts to anything, till Hit the Stage and his interacrtions with back-up dancer, now I think he is bisexual

Wonho: bisexual or pan or gay, there is definitely nothing straight in Wonho, but tbh I don't think he's totally gay, I am more into pan theory

I.M.: honestly have no idea, he doesn't ping my feelings straightly, but the only ones who does more questionable things than him are Wonho and Minhyuk, so non-straight, maybe bisexual

Jooheon: bisexual or gay in denial

Minhyuk: gay

[KiriL]

Which back-up dancer? I used to feel the same way about Shownu^^ 

 

Starship hot back-up dancer, which used to dance with Sistar) He participated in one of Shownu's stages and there were few interesting moments after they ended performance. I actually wanted to post that moment here, but can't find HTS full episodes or those particular cuts on youtube, so yeah)

[KiriL]

I feel like a witch hunt to find whoever bullied Holland is going to just end badly.

 

If Holland gives names then those people should definitely be called out on their behavior but I just see it ending badly if people start speculating about who it might have been with nothing more than a graduation year to go on.

 

Same tbh. I wish to know what exactly he said, cause from this tweet he didn't even categorised was it male or female idol. I mean, it literally can be anyone. Also if it's a male idol 96-94z liner, wouldn't he be too old to be "currently debuted" (I assume "currently" as this or last year)?

[KiriL]

"I like things like this" 

 

Click here to view the Tweet

 

I just wanted to post this)

 

Also is there anyone else who find this moment interesting?

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[KiriL]

I think that teaser from BTS basically unofficially confirms Yoonkook's characters being a couple in the universe and backs up a lot of fan theories.

 

For example, the shirt in room with Suga belonged to Jungkook was a long standing theory and in the teaser they have him wearing the same/very similar shirt when he's in the room with Yoongi outside on the roof.

 

 

 

 

Also placing Jungkook in a hotel room and on the bed is fairly strong evidence that Yoongi was thinking of Jungkook in this scene and that is some pretty heavy suggestions

 

Now factor in the Highlight reel notes and Jungkook's flashback of being with Yoongi at the piano and yeah...I feel like they're not even being subtle about it anymore. I mean, it's not confirmed but there relationship at this point is heavily coded to be a romantic one.

 

Edit: Wait...I watch this on my phone and all of them having the same color hair is throwing me off. I think I mixed up Yoongi and Jungkook. Now I think Yoongi is pulling from the room. Same implications just done differently.

 

 

 

Yep, I also think that at this point Yoonkook has confirmed romantic relationships in Bangtan Universe, even though it's kinda subtle, it's a very transparent way of subtle. I am even starting to think that maybe Bighit will go farther and more obvious about this in series.

JiHope imo is still can be portrayed as just friends, who going crazy cause of their demons, not sure even will they be developed more, cause it seems like in new "story" Bighit decided to throw Hoseok to Tae, but we'll see, of course.

 

It's even better in video.

 

 

 

It's one of the most adorable thing I ever saw)

[KiriL]

 This is why i feel bad for jungkook, the boy is a big softy yet a lot of his stans want to portay him as a fuckboy because they like him better that way in their fantasy world and a lot of people who don't know bts well or new fans would think of him that way too because of the image that fans have set when he's literally a baby irl.

 

  And other than his infamous crush on IU (which i find suspicious btw but that's a whole different story) i don't see anything that indicate he could be heterosexual, in fact most things about him give me strong queer vibes. 

 

Can you, please, elaborate about this, if it's not hard? Is it about him having a thing for musicians or something else? 

 

About Jungkook. I agree so much with you all about him not having typical "gay" signs, so he is concluded as a totally straight. He's an introvert, who loves his hyungs so much, stares at them and other people, calls them all handsome and "wow, thighs!", just so much baby-maknae, who adores his hyungs, behaviour in him, that personally it just did not sraightly ping me, so I myself thought he's straight or bicurious, but he really started to be more and more open imo after becoming an adult and reading this thread and other peoples opinion I started reevaluating my view of him. He still doesn't straightly ping me much (the most was when he pout on behind the scenes for Hoseok's Daydream), but now I think he is into men, so either bi or gay (I am still leaning towards bi though).

 

About bi flag.

I was thinking and thinking about it and I really don't think it has anything to do with lgbt. The scene itself has nothing to do with lgbt, if I had some doubts before, all became clear after behind the scenes: the other man in bed is "real" Hoseok. So cinematographically in that scene 2 worlds are combined and they just chose a very common combination of colors to represent and highlight it: pink for one world (real one, you can see in the begining of MV, when Hoseok just start daydreaming to avoid real world behind the window, everything is in pink) and blue for daydreaming world (in scenes before and after of real Hoseok's attempt to wake up daydreaming Hoseok is surrounded by blue color) and, well, purple is the combination of two colors, which is exactly what this scene is - the combination of 2 worlds. Btw Bighit and Lumpens love purple, when it comes to scenes about some mystical space: HRs, which are about time-travelling, start in the purple space and Boy Meets Evil, which is also an intro, a start to the mystical part of hyyh, also all in purple. The rectangular form is chosen cause it simplier to emphasize on 2 worlds by simple form and not by lighting the whole room in pink, blue and purple, plus cause that flag is on the place of the window to real world. Basically it's the scene about how to find that purple balanse between two different worlds.

That's just my opinion, of course. Maybe Hoseok also wanted to hint on him being bi by this, who knows.

 

Also I want to say about Boy Meets Evil, since I mentioned it. Have you seen his explanation about the song? He said that it's the song about boy falling in love, but the time is so bad, so the love became an evil, tourture for him. And I find it interesting, cause commonly the problem about being in a relationship with the same gender is society and it's reaction, right? Like, what Tae sings about in Stigma: that he is sorry to his close ones. Hoseok's answer looks more like an answer of workaholic, who is way too much into his career, but also very passionate (and Hoseok is actually very passionate, he once said that if he didn't have idol career right now he'd be in love, cause he's very passionate person) to the point that if he seriously fall in love, he'll be too into person, which can be dangerous to career, so right now love is like an evil, which can destroy him, cause time isn't right.

 

Also tbh I don't find anything strange in calling love a dangerous evil in lyrics for dramatical effect. In my language classic litrature it's fine to be overly dramatic and to call falling in love with a woman as something devolish and dangerous, and personally I find Asian way of wording things, at least in those books I read, kinda similar to my culture way, so it's not really shocking to me.

 

But again, it just my opinion, who knows. Maybe Bighit will connect Boy Meets Evil dance with JiHope story, cause they connected through dance, and it will turn out that they are other romantic couple besides Yoonkook in hyyh and BME was about Jimin.

 

 

I actually came to post this. At 52:25

Tae to fangirl: Hi. Bye.

Tae to fanboy: Hello! How are you? You look so handsome! I love your style! Let me hold your hand as long as possible! Hope to see you again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVbyIlxXVDk

Edited April 8, 2018 by KiriL

[KiriL]

I could be wrong but since he was 14 till now the only woman he has a crush on is IU? Does that sound normal to you? 

Every year he gushes about a new male artist from JB to troye sivan to charlie puth to idk who next but with female artists it's always the same answer.

 

It kinda reminds me of myself when i used to make sure everyone knew i was crushing on a footballer so no one would suspect my gay ass i even had hundreds of pictures of him on my phone and would always talk about him and even though i did like him as a player and found him attractive it was never in a romantic/sexual way. 

 

And IU seems like that girl that everyone likes whether you're straight or gay or a banana, i'm sure i read a post here that said Holland is a big fan of hers and that video of the gay korean dude who also said he liked her so i'm guessing she could also be popular with the lgbt community in Korea? 

 

 Again, i can be wrong but that's how i feel about it, i'd actually be really surprised if his crush on her ends up being real and not just pure admiration for her as a singer.

 

Late reply, but thank you for an explanation! I kinda thought you meant something else by your phrase)

I agree with you. Although I also had thoughts that he might keep on mentioning IU only, cause fans already knew about her and it was safe choise, plus IU is gorgeous, famous and talented so nothing surprising of being a fan of her. But also he didn't mention any female celeb in any of interviews in 2017, not in the ones after BBMA not in the ones after AMA ("don't remember her name" though) not in Korean ones of course, if I remember correctly the only one occasion was when he mentioned IU again, cause her album was the first one he ever bought, so yeah. Everything he talks about lately is Justin Bieber and Troye Sivan.

[KiriL]

About Yoonkook couple in hyyh. I always was curious why it's Yoonkook, who Bighit decided to "confirm" as a couple in a romantic relationship. I mean, there are Namjoon and Tae (some scenes in hyyh were shooted in a very typical way for romantic scenes, plus I thought about them more, cause one of two is open lgbt supporter and I always thought about another one as about not straight) and Jimin and Hoseok (who were very affectionate towards each other in hyyh and according to notes were very close), for every couple Bighit gave some things which may or may not be interpret in a romantical way, but only Yoonkook was really emphaszed and confirmed in Euphoria as couple in a relationship. From what I know it's Yoonkook who were very intensely shipped due to hyyh series, I don't see the same among Vmon or JiHope shippers, do you think that Bighit chose Yoonkook cause of fans?

[KiriL]

 

I guess the reason why is because i get really sensitive when people are vague over these things. it’s because it puts them in a situation where they can get the praise for being supportive while not actually committing to the statement they get the praise for. it reminds me of jk rowling saying dumbledore is gay in an interview after she wrote all the books with no gay dumbledore. personally as a gay dude i find it difficult, whether i like it or not, to not feel uncomfortable when people are vague. 

 

i don’t really understand why he needed to be cautious or diplomatic in an american interview, as in other american interviews he’s been a lot more straight forward (he said something like “it doesn’t matter whether love between a man or a woman, or genders†in one) and also because if he was being diplomatic, why did yoongi not need to be? that’s something that has confused me about it since it happened.

 

i need to be clear that i am not negating any of the prior things namjoon has done to support lgbt people or saying i don’t think he’s supportive. ill say it right now, he is without any doubt one of the most supportive idols out there and i actually really admire him.

 

 

Just want to give my personal thoughts about it.

 

First of all, that interview wasn't in form "Q&A", but like a POV with journalist's personal evaluation of their words, which makes it hard to understand what exactly was asked (how the question was worded) and why Namjoon answered like this.

 

Second, there is a big difference between Yoongi and Namjoon. While Yoongi is just one of 6 other members, Namjoon is the leader of the group, he and his words represent it, especially on the US side, where he is called a frontmen and a spokesperson, thus everything he says has much more weight and kinda implyes that it's an opinion of the group as a whole. Plus, Namjoon is known as the only one who knows and understands English very well, so while other members can be concluded as ones who don't get what question was about exactly, thus their words might not be taken really seriously, his words will be concluded as what he actually think + what the whole group think since he is a spokeperson. 

 

Third, interesting that you mentioned that interview where Namjoon said about gender. As far as I remember, that interview was probably one of the most open his words about the matter in a long time. I mean, it wasn't just his recommendation of a song, which can be concluded as just his personal musical taste which might have nothing to do with him supporting lgbt, it was his open and direct answer on an open and direct question. I remember ppl on twitter and here were really happy and celebrating this. And after this he became more careful with his words. The thing is we know lgbt-community and lgbt-supporters' positive reaction to this, but we don't know what was general reaction or SK's reaction to his words back then or even Bighit reaction to it. I mean, Bighit definitely monitor people reaction to whatever BTS do and if they found reaction not really satisfying they might ask Namjoon to be more careful with words (cause read above my second point). Also, I hope it doesn't sound offensive, please, don't think like I am trying to offense anyone, but I think Bighit knows that it's more profitable for BTS to be "straight" group in general public eyes. One thing is for them to play with character's storys in their concepts, cause it's just an imaginary creative reality and just created characters there, or use gender neutral lyrics, cause again it's creativity, and another to openly say things on interview, cause it's real world and they are still idol group from SK, so I understand why Bighit could ask him or he himself decided to be more diplomatic and careful.

 

I think Namjoon is amazing and he's trying his best, but he also is just a kid (from his own words on Burn The Stage), so he can't be perfect 24/7 for everyone) I also think he did enough to be clear about his personal position about lgbt and we need to understand that he might be more careful when he speak from the position of the leader of the most popular group at this moment.

Maybe later things will change)

[KiriL]

it's tea time already??? tbh sometimes i just laugh my ass off at people who applaud idols for doing the absolute bare minimum.... sure it's nice if you're a gay fan to have your identity validated by your bias group, but lets not act like making a few offhand tweets or reccomending gay artists is actually that revolutionary, even in kpop.

 

the thing that annoys me personally about his answer (not him as a person or even his politics, just this specific interview) is that if any group can actually afford to be 100% outspoken about their support of lgbt people, it's bts. their economic, cultural and social power is at a point where they have the opportunity to actually CHANGE things in a substancial way, if they want. they could perform at the seoul pride parade without putting too much at stake. sure they might lose a few fans along the way, but their careers would in no way be jeopardized.

 

i don't judge him tho, since we're all shills for capitalism anyways, but i'm not gonna applaud him for it either. idols are entertainers, not politicians, so frankly i'm done putting them on a pedestal as these great human rights activists. that's only gonna get you 10x more hurt once they say something truly fucked up.

 

Tbh it always kinda surprised me in this thread how BTS and Bighit are considered as some lbgt "activists" in kpop, cause for me their actions were always very vague. They wore some clothes with lgbt symbolism, but huge majority of those cases are for the events where they were dressed by their stylists. I know that there is always "members are not stupid to not understand what that means", but in the end of the day it's basically just stylist's choise. Their lyrics were never really explicit about such things. Stigma's meaning is basically just fans' assumptions (which I highly agree, but since Tae or anyone never spoke anything specific about it, it's still just fans' assumptions). Even Yoongi's Hong Kong line is actually more about audience, that he is powerful enough to snatch not only female fans, but male ones too (and yes, I think he isn't straight and that line implys to himself too). Their concepts were always very very vague too. That yoonkook thing became clear only with Euphoria, before it was held in a golden middle between "they just friends" and "is there something more between them?". Concept of Wings was based on Demian, which is extremely philosophical and that gay kiss in the book happened cause Devil is actually dark (adult) part of the boy himself, which he finally accepted, that basically what happened in BS&T too: Jin agreed with his dark side. I actually even think that Bighit might choose Demian cause of that kiss, but it doesn't change the fact that the general concept of Wings and BS&T itself is not about the love between same gender. Also, as far as I remember, none of members, except for Namjoon, actually spoke anything specific and serious about it, the most they did was recommendations of lgbt songs, not changing pronouns in covers and liking male artists. That Yoongi's thoughts on Japanese interview about how gender doesn't matter for him is still the big confusion for me, cause of the mess with translations. I mean, we don't really know even their true thoughts about the case, so to expect from them to actively change things or even to perform on pride parade is kinda too much imo, since they weren't really activists or active supporters to begin with. 

Maybe they will do something, of course, but I don't think it's right to expect a lot from them tbh.

[KiriL]

Hi, I don't come here often so idk if this has been discussed here yet:

So apparently the coat Tae is here with is one that Hoseok had worn in the past.

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Let's say that this is a coincidence. It STILL means that the coat is a man's coat. That hand is supposed to be a man's hand carressing Taehyung. And that whole scene in the video just seems very intimate and suggestive.

There is absolutely nothing straight about that.

 

Now, coming to the lyrics, one particular line seemed kind of familiar to me in Singularity:

What I was supposed to do back then?

 

It seems familiar because a similar line was present in his song Stigma:

Why did you do that to me back then?

 

If Taehyung has written some of the lyrics to Singularity, then I'm 100% sure somebody did/said something to him in the past which has affected him a lot and makes him feel like he has done something wrong. All those references to hiding also makes me believe that it is regarding his sexuality.

 

Personally I am not a big fan of finding lgbt clues in lyrics of intro, title track and outro, cause in my opinion they are always heavily rooted (at least in BTS case) to theme and concept of new albums which, even if they can imply to lgbt concerns, do it very vaguely. Mixtapes, covers, songs made for free in spare time and also b-sides (including wings solos) at some point are a different case. So in case of Singularity I also think the lyrics fits in their speculated upcoming concept (although it'll be more clear when they release the title of course), but I really agree about that dance with manequin. Although again it fits the theory (there can be said a lot about self love, narcissism, etc), but the way they shooted that scene is kinda suggestive: literally the first thing I thought was that it's man's hand (wow!), then that it's Hoseok, cause of jacket from Daydream (WoW!) and then I realised that it's just Tae's hand and finally noticed a skirt on the manequin... But still it was really interesting. 

Also I have to point out that Tae's and Hoseok's signs are connected since short films for Wings, in Euphoria Bighit clearly putted those characters' storylines together and now Hoseok's jacket from his solo MV appeares in Tae's intro for new album, so I am starting to think that maybe Bighit will create Vhope story in new "timeline/universe" in a romantical way (I saw theories that Hobi is Tae's long losted brother or step-brother, but after such dance I doubt it lol), something like Yoonkook. I am really interested in what will be in new MV or new videos related to BU tbh.

But, of course, they could use that red jacket just because of color and it being fitted amazingly in the set (which probably is the reason tbh).

 

About those particular lines I'd like to make some note in spoiler, cause it's most probably nothing important and also shippy.

 

 

I am not sure if it was discussed on this thread, but when Stigma came out some vhope shippers pointed out how the phrase "why did you do that to me back then" (which also can be translated "why were you like that to me then") in the lyrics of Stigma is similar to the Hoseok's and Tae's phrase "why was I like that at the time" here in the video below at 0:44

 

It even sounds kinda similar (since I have no clue in Korean, I am not sure how singnificant it is, but I find it interesing), just compare at 1:50

 

Although all phrases are different (and the one from Singularity sounds nothing alike to the two above), the meaning behind them imo is pretty similar. I have no idea what does that mean and does it even mean something, but I just wanted to write about it.

 

 

[KiriL]

I just wanted to bring this back because apart from the mentioned unni, (p)pippi also crops up in the 'urban dictionary of SK gay terminology'. The source article being British 'Time Out' magazine. 

 

 

I don't know what context Hobi was talking about (given the spelling looks slightly different) . Is he saying the girls/gherls call him 'undesirable' or is there another translation/meaning?  

 

Sidenote: K-Pop bondage halters in the background pic.

 

https://www.timeout.com/seoul/lgbt/urban-dictionary-for-gay-terminology

 

 

 

Wasn't sure if I should post it here, but since you brought that line and her meaning once again, I think it'd be interesting for you to read this thread with an explanation behind it.

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Edit: it's in general very interesting to read about so many exceptions and different situation in such a strickt system as Korean language,  in overall it's not that simple, look in the end the translator brought an example of Joon using "unnie".

Edited May 25, 2018 by KiriL

[KiriL]

Thanks, that's very interesting.

 

The writer says she doesn't know for sure in that only Hobi knows what;s in his mind but I found her breakdown to be informative.

 

You're welcome)

Well, it goes for any lyrics tbh, especially so metaphorical like Korean one and especially for BTS' lyrics which has double and triple entendres here and there. Holy trinity are critically aclaimed genius lyricsists after all.

 

Thanks for this! I'd never heard about those guys who try to get girls into clubs. Interesting. Though, I do want to point out that this person didn't mention that ppippi is also a Korean gay slang word (and possibly doesn't know), so there's still some ambiguity there.

 

You're welcome) 

Maybe that person knows the meaning (it it's the same word, of course, cause in article there is "ppippi", while in thread they mentioned "pipi"), but they didn't think that it has anything to do with the verse.

Look, they literally put 3 kinda different but still connected meanings of pipi, which perfectly connected with their explanation in all 3 ways. Let's use logic though. If to try and put the lgbt meaning of ppippi ("an undesirable situation/person") into the line then it turns out that Hoseok is trying to say "hey, haters and hip-hop losers, when I am spitting fire with my rap here those women, who I have no romantic interest in, call me the one they don't want at all"... It just doesn't make sence at all, cause for haters he actually has to show the opposite: (I edited the rest part of the sentance a little) "hey, haters and hip-hop losers, even without having romantic interest in me those women follow me just like that cause I am freaking godly in my rap" = he'll snatch them all just by his talent even if they don't "attracted" to him.

I think, if you're interested you can ask that translator insted of guessing, cause not just the spelling of word, but the context means a lot in Korean and influences the meaning of the word a lot too. I mean, apparently the whole thread was a request from someone and not their initiative, so go ahead)

 

Idk, regardless of Hobi's actual sexual orientation, this explanation just makes scenes, considerring what he (and rapline in general) is talking in Cypher: screw you, haters, the crowd will be drawn by my rap and follow me anyway, cause I'm so freaking catchy.

Edited May 26, 2018 by KiriL

[KiriL]

Oh, no I get that! I just meant that if this person isn't aware of how it's used in Korean gay slang (just like many straight Americans don't know American gay slang), it's possible they didn't get the full reference. It's also possible that that Timeout article posted here didn't explain the word fully. I've seen English slang words on the Urban Dictionary site with totally different definitions to how I see them used. 

 

Also, the word in the lyric is ì‚ì‚, which is romanized as ppippi. 

 

Either way, even just taking this person's explanation, it's an interesting way of presenting yourself as a rapper. I feel like usually, rappers want to portray themselves as a macho dude who girls want, rather than someone who girls see as a non-sexualized man (particularly since he's de-sexualizing himself in relation to girls). Idk it's interesting!

 

Like I said you can ask translator) It's not such a big deal to ask if ppippi also can have this meaning from magazine and if you'd do it once, please, share the result.

Well, I don't know Korean, so I can't tell why it's different in both cases, but it's not like translator didn't have a space to add 2 more letters, but for some reason they wrote it as it is "pipi". Like I said, everything matters in Korean, maybe that's one of the cases.

Nah, in Hoseok's case it fits just perfectly. It is not about such simple thing like rapper's image, actually by that one phrase he drags the whole kpop industry (or even Korean point of view) with their visual>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>talent. I mean, it's kinda about his visual and man's attractiveness. There is a lot can be told about the relationship between Hoseok and his visuals, so I'd make it short and just from one side of the case. He isn't considered as a visual (which leads to women being attracted to an artist) according to weird Korean standarts + around the time when Cypher was written there was that HosokeIsUglyKickHimOut sh*t going on, I am pretty sure he was aware about it and influensed him, but instead of crying a river on a floor he literally says "yo, you might not be attracted to me romanticaly, since I'm not your type, there is no need, Idgaf, you'll just follow my lead cause my talent is way too powerful and irresistable and I'll make you mine with just my talent". Also that matches a lot with his work ethics: Hoseok in almost everything separates his job from his personal, so his fans for him is a public, not love interest, it's smart actually that he pointed it out in lyrics. 

 

The interesting thing though is that he considers only women his audience, the audience he wants to make interested in, while Yoongi, for example, wants to snatch both men and women. But that's another thing)

[KiriL]

I totally understand this interpretation, and I agree it makes sense for him. I just thought it was interesting since it's not really a typical way for a male rapper to present himself. Back in the day, you could see Namjoon trying really hard at the macho act out of insecurity. Jimin did too, and he wasn't even a rapper. I feel like most straight guys (especially rappers) would react to criticism with defensive machismo, not proactively de-sexualizing themselves to girls. 

 

Yeah, I understand what you're trying to say) It's intersting that the one who pushed "the machiest macho in the world" narrative back then, turned out one of the most suspicious lol

 

i always thought ppippi was an adlib meaning a phone is ringing. i guess that doesn't explain the usage of unnies though

 

Well, phone ringing is the third meaning of pipi the translator mentioned (onomatopoeia), so you might be right after all.

 

Ok. I know that it's shippy, and honestly the content is the most out of the blue ever and isn't a proof of anything, and it actually doesn't even have much to do with lgbt, but the reaction in the end is just epic lmao I'm gonna put it in the spoiler.

 

Click here to view the Tweet

By not having much to do with lgbt or not being a proof of anything I mean his reasoning, it's in the second tweet, like really out of the blue or maybe really western point of view on fanservise lol Or maybe he's right, of coure)))))

 

[KiriL]

This is just for fun, but seeing Yoongi get flustered is so delightful:

 

 

Yoongi's whipped for Hoseok culture is seriously something else sometimes)

Shippy video under the spoiler

 

Basically every time he turns to Hobi but especially at 0:21 and 3:52

 

 

 

He really is fascinating. I love it when the mask tumbles.

 

For someone who is quite serious and also shy and who doesn't go out of his way to pander to extreme skinship, he becomes really curious/animated around men gyrating and its a repeating pattern. But he's also very subtle and he can be quite tender as well:

 

 

He picked Childish Gambino's 'This Is America' for his song answer when being interviewed by the Mess the other week when he could have given the default/stock answer of Shawn Mendes or Ariana but he selected something rap-based, with a great hook/beat, and super-socially and politically relevant.

 

And whose video (that he's bound to have seen) features a buff n sexy, half-naked man grinding away as its main focal point.  

 

So, yeah.

 

(I still think Y's been out of sorts lately. The sudden weight loss (including in his face) is pretty extreme but seems to have been largely ignored by the fandom, and the chronic shyness on this US trip has been really noticeable too. I hope he's alright.)  

 

I think This Is America is Bangtan favorite song in general lately (probably the rapline's influence anyway though): Hoseok picked it too on the US interviews and even danced few movements from it, Joon said he likes it too, according to k-armys JK and Tae danced to it on pre-recording for one of the shows.

 

On the topic of Yoongi's changes lately. I noticed it too and I am worried and actually other fans are worried too if to look on yt comments or on twitter, it's just stans are being very careful and gentle towards him and his state, so it doesn't feel like everyone's screeming about the issue on every corner. But tbh it legit can be anything. He said on fansign today that his body doesn't feel good lately, so he might be sick (even simple cold would be troublesome when it's such a stresfull perioud like promotion). Or he can have those bad days we all have sometimes for whatever reason, like, maybe he lost inspiration lately. It's just really hard to do something as a fan in the cases like that, so I am just happy that we trended that ht today (even though the reason behind it was wrong) and he probably saw it, since he posted those selfies after, hope it gave him some energy.

 

And some fans' answer is disgusting :

 

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Just want to clarify this.

First of all, the comments about Yoongi leaving and JK being arrogant were made by those privileged cockroaches, who were allowed by shitty k-shows into Bangtan's resting room and didn't get attention they wanted.

Second, the comment about mental patient was a rumor. Today next happened: someone on k-side started those rumors about mental patient and it was spread among k-armys as they a) were disgussed about this and b) were trying to understand did it actually happened or not, of course, such an issue got huge and one of our translators translated it without waiting for clarification of situation (which happened later and turned out that nobody actually said it, cause literallly nobody heard it, there is just no evidance), which called the whole mess on i-side.

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[KiriL]

Apparently tae said yoongi wrote him a superrrr long text message that ended with the "I love you" to which they were all shocked because he doesn't normally send long messages. And then Jimin said that he was thankful the Yoongi sent him that message. I wonder if it was something about support? I'm definitely probably reaching but I like to imagine Yoongi bein Tae's big gay brother lol

 

Honestly that sudden Tae's confession was epic. Yoongi wrote letters to both Tae and Kook with "I love you" in the end, then members (except for Hoseok, who didn't say anything about the matter besides "it was cool") got jealous to Taekook for receiving a letter with "I love you" from Yoongles and wanted to recieve such too even if it'd be just a copy-paste one, then Namjin said "I love you" to each other, then Jimin asked for Yoongi to say "I love you" to him, which Yoongi did (and Tae said, when he got the message, he was imagining Yoongi's voice differently while saying this) and Jimin got SO flustered.. Basically they all were wilding on Dinner Party with Hoseok.exe logged out (poor lightweighted boy). Apparently the only thing which is known for sure is that the letter was sad, cause Tae cried. Interesting that he wrote to both Tae and Kook though, but who knows why he did it.

[KiriL]

Its obvious that Tae and Kook are his gay little bro

 

Wdk. 

 

I don't think Tae was saying he cried because the message was sad. The question was, "What do you want to hear when you're having a hard time?" and for Tae, it was, "I love you." Tae said he cried because he'd never heard it from Yoongi and was touched. 

 

Maybe, I still haven't seen it with proper subs tbh, so I might confused things.

[KiriL]

 

Another thing, does anyone remember around the time of the BBMAs some US reporter or journo tweeted something about just finding out one of his fav K-Pop boyband members was gay. He was really happy bcs he'd just interviewed (or was in contact with) BTS and I think he was gay himself. He didn't name names but naturally Army erupted into chaos for a hot hour and I think the tweet or quote got pulled.

 

 

Ugh, cannot not reply to it. You wrote it in such a misleading way. You are legit implying that it most probably was said about BTS' member, while he didn't even said anything about boy band, all he said is "one of my korean celebrity crush is gay", which could be anyone: idol, singer, model, actor, etc.. He interviewed BTS only once in his life and I have extra HUGE doubts that BTS would say anything personal to a complete stranger they saw for the first time on their life, what to tell about their sexual orientation. It was discussed on this thread around February and main conclusion was either he was in gay club and saw someone or he heard some rumors since some lgbt celebs are like an open secret in Korea or he was just trying to get attention, since he apparently deleted that tweet, cause I can't find it right now.

[KiriL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KW4rthrB1c

 

what do you guys think about Taehyung comment in this video? 

 

I've seen many people in this thread have their opinion on Taehyung being gay

I always had my opinion on Taehyung as being straight or bi with a high preference toward women

but I do not think he is homophobic, and I know he holds hands with the members all the time 

aside from his comment on the video. 

 

the members in BTS that I think are NOT straight:

1.jimin

2.yoongi

3.jungkook

4.rapmon

Honestly, homophobic is the last term I would use while describing Tae.

Also such short clips out of context are never an indication of anything, I suggest you always to watch the original video. If you have watched that episode then you would know that Tae didn't give af when Kook was holding hands with Jin and suddenly was bothered when Kook was holding hands with Hoseok. Take it as you wish, but I highly doubt it has anything to do with homophobia.

 

It's so strange that the producer would say that. Jungkook and Namjoon covered "Fools" as a duet. Jungkook and Jimin covered "We Don't Talk Anymore" as a duet. How are we not past this? Ugh.

Tbh I am waiting for translation from vlive itself, cause different translators gave slightly different interpretations of that moment, like one said that it's due to female vocal suiting better into a song.

Here

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[KiriL]

actually this translator also clarified that they were talking about the lyrics and most translators I've seen agreed with that. Although it's always possible that was Taehyung's interpretation, not what the producer meant? but that's what Taehyung said.

 

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Oh, ok. Haven't seen this one. I will wait for vlive translations anyway. But yeah, it might be just Tae's interpretation and not what producer actually said/meant.

 

Jimin voice is not that different from a girl voice tbh. He even did Selena part in we don't talk anymore. Also I thought it's was a girl singing with bts at beginning in bst.

 

Edit: do you think he was jealous of Jungkook or Jhope??

Idk, for me personally Jimin never sounds like a girl, although he has a very high voice. It was that PD decision anyway for whatever reason and apparenty that translator already clarified that it was said about lyrics and not voice.

 

 

It's all just mine baseless assumptions so I am gonna put it under spoiler. I have no idea why he reacted like this to hopekook and didn't reacted at all to jinkook. I can read their emotions/reactions/behavior traits pretty well, but there might be hundreads of reasons behind those, so I may see when they're upset or smth, but why? who knows. If to talk about that scene, for example, Tae kind of loves "attack" back in the same way he was "attacked", so maybe Hoseok said smth similar to that narrative towards Tae or in genereal said smth like this and Tae didn't like it and thats why he said it back to Hobi, or maybe yeah he was jealous of Hoseok or maybe he was jealous of Jungkook or maybe there was another reason. Idk. I just said about that episode cause this clip (the full it's version) shows anything but Tae's homophobia.

 

[KiriL]

Nothing serious, just Jungkook being wikd and clingy to all his hyungs lately, which is cute.

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[KiriL]

 

 

Thanks. But I have now two questions lol. What does the title mean and why there are two songs on Spotify?

The Answer album is a repackage or something?

 

 

 

 

I answer to you on this, if you don't mind.

Anpanman himself originally is Japanese character, a quite strange hero, here is a little thread about him and his abilitites.

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So BTS based their song on this, on them being weak, just mere human beings but trying to be heros, to help and give strength to ppl anyway. That's why for stage of this song they wear smth like uniforms, cause ppl like firefighters are nowadays heros too, even tho they don't have superpowers.

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Here is the translation of the lyrics.

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or

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Yes, Answer is repackage or compilation abum, so there are two songs, they are the same)

 

 

[KiriL]

So apparently this happened too

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Hm.