Forgottenly 1,881 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Woman + man = straight relationship Man + man = gay relationship Woman + woman = lesbian relationship I literally never heard anyone say that it was my fault that I got discriminated, sorry you did. The only thing I experienced was homophobia, because some of my friends happened to be relieved that I was attracted to men too, not only women (because they didn't want me to be a dirty lesbian, of course). If I fall in love with a woman I'm going to date her. If I fall in love with a man I'm going to date him. Gay people cannot fall in love with the opposite sex, and some have to live their life pretending that they do. Unfortunately, I don't think that my struggles as a bi person are worse than gay people, so I don't get offended by simple facts. Not everyone is the same, most certainly. My problem with calling it a straight relationship is that it implies that a bi person is straight when they date someone of the opposite sex. I can't pretend to be straight any more than a gay person can. I grew up in the southern united states going to a church that told me I should be stoned (that sermon was led by my grandpa btw) for liking the opposite sex at all, not just falling in love with them. I get that you haven't experienced it but some homophobes hate bi people just as much as they hate gay people. I've experienced all types of homophobes and bi phobes that have different ideals and opinions about what or why to hate someone. Yeah I could pretend to be straight but i would be a lie no matter who I was dating and it would hurt just the same. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Look I'm just gonna stop now because I'm sure people are already pissed at me for causing this tangent. I will say I love how I say something is offensive and people immediately jump to tell me a hundred reasons why it shouldn't be. 5 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 When I'm at Christmas dinner around my homophobic family who talks about stoning the gays I keep my mouth shut. I can't change their opinion and it will only hurt me if they knew. I feel like it's the same for celebs but on a larger scale. Especially in Korea, they could loose their friends, family, fans and career all with one sentence. Not everyone ends up as Hong Seokcheon and even he went through sooo much pain to get where he is now. People have a right to protect themselves. I don't feel like they should be shamed for that. I'm just glad there are so many idols who have shown support for the lgbt community despite the actual danger. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Do you think that Seungri is gay, but decided to leak a scandal about having straight prostitutes so that when he went into the army no-one would guess? Like having a fake marriage. How the hell do you get 400+ down votes in 2 days? Are you like racing to see how fast you can get banned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 heechul needs to drop gunhee. gunhee liked a post on instagram a couple weeks ago defending seungri & even now after everything’s exposed, he’s STILL following seungri on insta. idc how cute they were in the past, gunheechul is dead to me! RIP :( I hope it was just because he thought he could trust him and not because he knew about it... There are a lot of people who haven't unfollowed Seungri yet though~ Sandara Park, Jackson Wang, Yang Sehyung etc. They just might not have thought of it yet. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I cannot believe they came to the decision to say we shouldn't imply minors can be gay... I can't be okay with that, like it actually hurts my heart. Instead of banning talking about how minors can be gay just ban talking about them in any sort of sexual way. That's what they should have done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We should make a rule that homophobia is not allowed in this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Suggestion: We should pick a day to hold a protest against homophobia on OH One that day we could basically do our best to make all content on the site lgbt for 24 hours Like posting articles about gay rights or shows, movies or MV's with lgbt themes or just anything related to lgbt. We could call it the OH Pride Parade~ 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Guys, I'm sorry for going off-topic, but do you guys remember another forum that was recommended to us during the mess that happened some time ago? I think it was supposed to be similar to OH. Somebody linked it, but I was not able to find it. idk if someone answered you but you can check this site out~ https://hallyuland.com/ Edited April 10, 2019 by Callmeashy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 why does SM have so many sus artists. also why do ppl think doyoung is the resident Het? he’s stuck up for the LGBT community numerous times?? yes, i understand that being an ally doesn’t instantly make you lgbt, but at the same time it can be an indicator. he seems like Heechul, a type of man that women feel safe around. while he did call ariana grande hot that doesn’t even rule out the possibility of him being bi also never forget the legendary ‘prisoner of Korean style denial tweet lmao. anyways, he just seems suspicious as hell to me, i’d love to hear everyone else’s thoughts on him. the search function is still Broken, an absolute tragedy. omg one more thing, why are people so offended by the idea that an idol may be lgbt, sometimes those people speak behind such thinly veiled homophobia while posing as some sort of moral police. are kpop fans that delusional that they think no gay people exist in the industry?? we’re living in 20biteen for Tens sake. while fetishizing is gross, why would others take simple speculation as such an insult? About Doyoung, I don't really have an opinion on him cause he's kind of confusing but I'm like 90% sure his brother Gong Myung is gay. Idk but that could be an explanation on why he is so supportive~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I tried asking this a few weeks ago, but no one replied...is the search function for this site permanently broken? And if so is there any other platform y'all are using for this discussion lmao. Is the discord permanently gone...? I'd love to get involved again but this website is super frustrating to use in its current state https://hallyuland.com/topic/18-which-male-idols-do-you-believe-are-lgbt/ Searching works on this site~ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Catness said: Am I the only one who gets irritated by seeing someone here posting about Jonghyun? What is the point of posting speculations on someone deceased wether he used to be gay when he was alive or not! I wish mods it gets prevented here, and mods erase anything related to any deceased idol because it hurts so much having to remember him every now and then .. especially in a section where we post about rumors and speculations! it is not interesting.. he passed away lets just let him rest in peace not re discussing his gay moments seriously it is creepy and weird I just don't want it to become where we can't talk about him. Like people shouldn't say bad things about him (and I don't know what post you are referring to because I didn't look yet) but if we stop talking about him all together then it is even worse. Jonghyun was very supportive of the lgbt community and was one of the only idols to openly support it to the point of controversy. I think we should never stop talking about that because it shows what an amazing person he was. I miss him and I always want to remember him. I don't want to stop talking about him even if tears won't stop falling from my eyes if I do. I think this thread is not just a rumor thread but as we have shown in the past is is a thread where lgbt people can lean on and maybe even get a bit of hope as they see who in the industry could be like them and who is making it despite so much being against them. To say that to discuss a beloved person in our community here is like to say that this thread is a bad and creepy place in my opinion. Which I don't believe it is~ 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Catness said: (Look at page 3194 for the post i saw) You can remember him! I didn’t say completely forget about him, BUT NOT here .. he has his own thread and you can make a memorable thread for him if you really want people to keep remembering him! and i think you got mixed up in sections and thread titles: this section is called (idols news and gossip) and the title of this thread is (who you think is gay) it is completely different subject on (which idol supports lgbt ) or (jonghyun’s opinions on lgbt) do you know what we do here? we post assumed pictures/ videos of idols that we think they are gay or bi sexual, sometimes we share rumors and gossip it is not a place to remember someone deceased and suddenly try to talk about his lgbt activities i am sorry but i feel sad and burden by watching posts about him here, i dont relate anything not think of anything rather than missing him and remembering those idols who suffered from depression and i dont think i am the only one who thinks like that. Ten people agree with me and that’s enough to say it is not logic Ten people agree with you and I don't. I understand you are hurt but what hurts me is to not see him. It would hurt me more than anything to see him banned from being spoken about. "it is completely different subject on (which idol supports lgbt ) or (jonghyun’s opinions on lgbt)" no actually this is one of the biggest things we talk about in this thread is idols opinions on lgbt because it's one of the most concrete things we have. It is literally so important. Maybe you are the one who doesn't understand this thread since you only look at the title to understand it. The people here are not as shallow as you seem to think. It has never ever been just gossip. It gets constantly bashed and called creepy but we kept going because in the end we know it's not just a gossip thread. As another thing, I believe Jonghyun was gay and that is was important to him. So we shouldn't erase that either. It isn't gross to talk about if someone was gay after they died. Imagine if people refused to say freddie mercury was lgbt after he died because it was creepy and weird and an insult to his memory. I think he would be furious. 13 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Catness said: I did bother reading this whole thing! i still find it super weird to keep guessing his sexual orientation while he is resting in his grave? What is your point? Okay? You think he was gay? Has he ever stated that? Or you just want to keep making weird assumptions on “lets all discuss jonghyun’s gayness when he was alive” please lets just stop talking about him here becuase it not the right thing to do! And yes whether you like or not the thread is dedicated for rumors and speculations not lgbt supporters! Like there are plenty of idols who are lgbt supporters but not necessarily part of it! i wish i can block or unsee any user posts anything about jonghyun or insisted in positing about him referring to his orientation IT HURTS it really does And I wish that every time someone brings up Jonghyun's name people didn't immediately try to turn him into a tragedy. I really don't understand why it would be hurtful to refer to someone who has passed away as gay unless you think it is an insult. Unless you mean it hurts to see him mentioned at all in which case I'm sorry but I will never stop talking about Jonghyun. If it is wrong to say someone who has passed away was gay then it is wrong to say that someone living is gay even more so because it affects them more. Do you then believe this entire thread should be shut down? Because it is creepy and weird to say other people might be gay? There is nothing wrong with being gay and it is perfectly normal to discuss the deeper meanings in his music. 9 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Catness said: I am sorry but jonghyun’s story IS a tragedy and what happened to him was a tragic fact wether you tried to change it or not! he suffered from depression and took his own life, he literally had hard time and nobody noticed him until it is TOO late why isnt tragic? i don’t understand why you try to normalize it to justify yourself in talking about his sexuality freely! you know why it is weird? Becuase he already died so why are you still debating and insisting in talking about him being gay? it is weird to discuss a dead person’ sexuality! It not logic or normal What happened to him was a tragedy but HE IS NOT We can talk about him without bringing up what happened to him every single time. We can talk about his happy moments and his life because he was a person and there was so much more about him to celebrate than to only think about what happened to him. He is not just a dead person but someone who helped me to live for years. And it is completely absolute normal to discuss the sexuality of an artist who passed away people literally do entire essays about the sexuality of authors and artists because it matters a lot in relation to the meaning of their work! Anyway if you don't want to post about him go ahead^^ I'm going to post about him as much as I'd like~ Different doesn't mean wrong so I won't feel bad about being different from you~ 12 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, raspberry84 said: To bring this back on topic, let's never forget the time that Jonghyun ate a rainbow cake during pride month and was super excited about it. That was such a cute thing^^ Taeyeon brought it for him right? True mlm wlw solidarity 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 1:40 Yuvin here seems awkward about skinship with men at first but then after seeing A.C.E be comfortable with it 2:15 it seems like he relaxes more and even ends up asking Chan if he wants to eat his lips. 6:40 Also it seems like Yuvin gets more comfortable with A.C.E after they touch each other~ edit: to expand on this a bit, whether Yuvin likes men or not I think its helpful for someone like him to be around guys like A.C.E who aren't so strictly masculine. Honestly I think Byeongkwan (and A.C.E in general) is a good influence on men who could be caught up in the idea of having to be very masculine. Edited January 21, 2020 by Callmeashy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, eli said: and how exactly do you know these people that went to protest for chen/x1 havent attended protests or have participated in other events for "things that actually matter"? I find it hard to believe that people protesting against Chen would ever go on a protest for someone's rights. It makes me so afraid of what would happen if one of them came out. It's all so unfair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Throw back to Rayoon having the biggest crush on Junhee 1:38 There isn't a video of it but Jun said that Rayoon kissed him while he was sleeping. Wonder what he's up to these days~ Edited January 24, 2020 by Callmeashy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 So Wefreaky's Junhyeok recently mentioned that the original lyrics for Jonghyun's She Is were supposed to be "Oh shit" instead of "Oh she is" but they had to change it for release. Basically meaning it's possible the song wasn't meant to be about a woman since there isn't mention of it being a woman anywhere else in the song~ 1 1 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Bushi said: Hobi louder than bombs. I remember that haha. Everybody was celebrating YG's ''dating rumors'' on tt I remember that. Those 'fans' literally cornered J Pearl into denying he was attracted to men by bombarding him with comments about dating Suga. He'd bought him some nice presents as a thank you for their work. And perhaps the lesson to take away is don't publicise your private stuff on Instagram. It was probably strictly professional but even if they did have a nice little thing going, people of course totally killed the mood. As if JP was ever going to openly state he's dating a well-known male idol just to please rude af shippers. What did they expect? There are some real idiots in the fandom. For the record I recall someone on here saying J Pearl had a past era with a fellow male idol that was interesting. I don't know enough about him to delve into that but perhaps they'll repost if they're still here. If he is the El Capitxn(?) accredited to BTS recent work then he's still producing for them. He is, he's credited on Komca, i think he is a bighit producer now since he is listed as his work being under bighit on Komca A lot of people thought Kyungil and Yijeong had something going on in history but that might have just been shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) double post Edited February 23, 2020 by Callmeashy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 This is kinda ot Spoiler but I'm seeing people call the US a very open non conservative country so I just kind of want to make sure people know that there are still many parts of america which are very (hurtfully) conservative. I went to a church when I was younger where my own grandfather gave a sermon about how gay people should be stoned, and everyone there said amen. So yeah america isn't exactly a gay utopia and there is a lot of suffering that still goes on here~ Sorry if I'm bringing up hurtful things for anyone, it's just something I felt I needed to say~ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Thatoneuser said: Lowkey I think Ten had a thing for Johnny when he first came to Korea because he was the only person he could communicate to. I don't know if Johnny ever felt the same way about Ten though. I've kinda got in in my head that Sehun had a thing for him predebut too, which makes me think that Johnny it that straight guy that's just really accepting and nice so you mess up and fall for him. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bushi said: I dunno, Johnny's reactions are quite interesting. Some of them don't scream 100% straight to me but he could just be playing up for the cameras. He does seem quite fascinated by Ten at times. But then they naturally band together being outsiders to S. Korea. That 'camera club' they had kicked it all off, lol. I might just be projecting lol Johnny reminds me a lot of how my best friend was crushing on his straight roommate and even til now they act like they're married even though they are dating other people~ I guess Johnny could be anything though cause honestly he seems like he could like guys but I think if he does then he'd be bi cause I'm convinced he likes women~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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