Which male idols do you think are gay?

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Wtf Siwon

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, rananicolee said:

It's a trend on Korean tiktok. 

Did Psy purposely choose Siwon cause he’s openly against gay marriage and made a joke out of it?

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In today’s episode of is this gay or just Korean culture??

Is there a Korean in this thread who can answer this? 

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Not including Taeyong doing Queendom at the start with a rainbow jumper. I know he wore it cause it’s like a rainbow against a sky 

 

 

 

 

Why he seem horny in the above clips, more than mere fanservice? Is he acting out sexual/skinship urges that he’d prefer to do with a woman, or he’s bisexual? 

As you know I really don’t think Taeyong is homosexual, this is whether he’s bisexual.

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His recent song Love Theory, which he wrote and created is about falling in love with a woman but needing love advice on trying to woo her cause he’s nerdy and love is complicated for him. Apparently he got the inspiration from watching Big Bang Theory. This fits in with his infamous interview about him not having experience and not being interested in the opposite sex, instead being more comfortable around boys because he can treat them normally (according to him). His song “Lonely” with Suran has him couple dancing with Bada Lee before their friends break them apart. His song “Monroe” with the lyrics “You are my Marilyn Monroe”. 

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He does kind of give Leslie Cheung vibes? 

 

 

 

 

I know it’s more of an aesthetic thing than an attraction to men so this isn’t a serious receipt

 

 

Taeyong recently said he got an Astroboy tattoo because people have told him he’s difficult to understand…they need a manual to understand him like for Astroboy? It’s so true. I’ve been thinking Taeyong got some high-functioning autism/neurodivergency that among other things, makes it difficult to judge his sexuality. Cause there is no way a neuro-typical guy would give Valentine’s chocolates to another guy without realising how it will be interpreted. Cause the guy who received it was like “first time I’ve ever received chocolates from a man…” 
 

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Anyway he also does this kind of sniffing thing with both men and women. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/22/2022 at 3:46 PM, poffertje said:

so what i'm gathering from your posts so far is that taeyong is a high-functioning autistic and/or otherwise unspecified neurodivergent genderqueer bi- or pansexual with male preference, right? just trying to keep a tally

nice to see you branching out into psychiatry btw

If you’ve seen all of Taeyong’s stuff  then you’ll know what I mean about the possible neuro-divergencey. 
 

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He does the Butterfly hug technique a lot 

 

 

I’m going with bisexual/pansexual, without a preference now, get up-to-date! Maybe he’s bisexual hetero-romantic? Like he’s sexually-attracted to every gender but only interested in romancing women it seems. 

Also his “No-one is unusual, love myself” wall doodle at his old dorm has got to mean something. 

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Maybe he’s not genderqueer, I’ve know it’s hard to assume gender identity, but he (or his nephew?) sees himself in a feminine way. 

 

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Did he tell his nephew to draw him like that? Did he dress-up? Did the kids get him to dress up? I’ve never seen Taeyong with long black hair and a pink bow. Or is that actually a drawing of Taeyong’s girlfriend but Taeyong said it was himself to not raise suspicions? 

 

 

 

Taeyong is unusual, but it’s not a bad thing. 

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On 4/22/2022 at 9:09 PM, themistoo said:

In all seriousness I think he's just an unusual person. Unique, aloof, etc.

Does being neurodivergent have anything to do w sexuality? I'm not sure. Most nd people I know are very sure about their identity. 

What I mean, is some of the stuff he does that comes across as gay may not be gay. E.g his obsession with Baekhyun. 

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Taeyong peeking at Baekhyun like a shy schoolgirl and making a heart shape with his hands?? 

 

Also this, 

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His reaction when Jungwoo said he wanted him (Taeyong) for his birthday. The other members were saying Taeyong likes romantic things. It’s not translated here but  Jaehyun also says “I’ve made Taeyong hyung crumble many times”.

He likes to be “praised” by others, particularly his members. In his Elle Japan interview he said he likes it when his members compliment him. 

Gay or praise “kink”? People were thinking he had a crush on Raider/Royal Dive (the producer he’s talking to). 

 

 

 

 

 

Taeyong quietly sitting on the side and then randomly starts meowing in the middle of a Vlive/interview?? Baekhyun being like “I don’t know him”, Taemin kindly meowing back. 

 

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Also I wouldn’t really describe him as aloof…maybe an awkward bean who maybe isn’t the best at reading social situations and gets flustered easily? He’s such a bubbly person! But yeah, Yuta recently called Taeyong a “tsundere” so I guess that’s what you mean by “aloof”? Yuta said Taeyong is tsundere, like a cat, and tends to shy away from affection by the other members.

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On 4/23/2022 at 10:31 PM, SingulariV said:

This is like some fever-dream horror version of a Gen Alpha / Gen Z twitter 'uwu I'm so quirky' treatment of LGBT+ and neurodivergent identities. 

Just for the record, neurodivergent doesn't mean 'odd, eccentric or quirky', it has a whole set of challenges and internal cognitive differences.

There are links between autism and gender dysphoria and non-cishet identities, particularly asexuality (and also some weaker correlations for other neurodiverse spectrum conditions) but I think that's intrusive to speculate. 

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I think that the language barrier and lack of cultural understanding + level of image control by agencies + soft, unthreatening personas create this vacuum around Kpop idols;  where they're just more wish-fulfilment screens than real Korean people; or even just reasonably realistic people. 

So it’s not intrusive to speculate whether someone is not-straight, but it’s intrusive to speculate whether someone could be neurodivergent?

“than real Korean people; or even just reasonably realistic people.”

??? If Taeyong was around me in real life and I saw this stuff, I would speculate whether he’s neurodivergent. 

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“Formerly considered a problem or abnormal, scientists have come to understand that neurodivergence can have many benefits. With this shift, practitioners are no longer treating neurodivergence as an illness.”

“Neurodiversity is the idea that it's normal and acceptable for people to have brains that function differently from one another. Rather than thinking there is something wrong or problematic when some people don't operate similarly to others, neurodiversity embraces all differences. The concept of neurodiversity recognizes that both brain function and behavioral traits are simply indicators of how diverse the human population is.” 

Yes I don’t know him. We don’t know these people who we’re speculating could be gay either… over minor things like look how fruity this guy held this other guy’s waist during a performance…anything rainbow (people can like rainbow things)…someone wore something from a brand that has done a lgbt collection etc. 

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This is a clip from 2017 

Johnny: “I’m not really sure what he’s doing either. Everyone, Taeyong is like this sometimes. It’s like he doesn’t even know what he’s doing”. 

Taeyong: “Today I feel difficult to control myself”. 

Johnny: “I’ll help you control yourself”. 

 

 

 

 

This is from a neurodivergent person 

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Gay can recognise or project gay but neurodivergent can’t recognise/project neurodivergent? Ok

 

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I know I posted this before but it’s so

I’ve noticed 2020 onwards, he does these butterfly hugs.  “The Butterfly Hug is a method of therapeutic intervention to help relax and calm a hyper-aroused self.” 

 

 

 

 

 

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Vlive 2018.
Taeyong was continuously jiggling and touching Ten’s arm during this Vlive. I never thought this was gay just…odd. 

 

 

Taeyong blushing when talking about Doyoung being his best friend??

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ND, or even not ND…he is “unusual” (It’s not a bad thing Taeyong! *see below*) even than the other Koreans around him…it’s not a cultural thing. 

Again, Taeyong’s wall-doodle. “No-one is unusual, love myself” with a love-heart winking. I saw a post which said, “Is he…you know”? 

Taeyong’s first tattoo was “Understand”. It’s about other people trying to understand him, and him trying to understand others…I think in a Vlive he described himself as “naive”. In an interview he answered: My good point - I’m simple/naive. My bad point - I’m simple/naive. 

Also recently said he feels like Astroboy (new tattoo) because people have told him they find it hard to understand him (aww), and he feels like people need a manual to understand him. 

When I first saw the “Understand” tattoo I thought whether it’s a sign he could be lgbt…how he would like to be understood by non-lgbt people… cue the “why are you gay?” interview. 

“This is like some fever-dream horror version of a Gen Alpha / Gen Z twitter 'uwu I'm so quirky' treatment of LGBT+ and neurodivergent identities.” 

I think from what I’ve said above, whatever is going on, it means more to Taeyong than just “uwu I’m so quirky”. 

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No I don’t want this thread to be about which idols could be ND. 

Have I not explained myself in my previous posts?

I’m saying that some of Taeyong’s gay sus moments, like his ?crush on Baekhyun

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His praise “kink” around men

 

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Him customising this bag and giving it to a male producer duo. 

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- Him giving Limited Edition Valentines Day chocolates to a male producer who was like “this is the first time I’ve received chocolates from a man…” 

 

and many more moments 

…all this comes across as kinda gay (sus), but if Taeyong’s ND he may not realise that it does or he doesn’t mean it in that way? Is it gay or because he’s kind of unusual?

For example on Quora, under the “Is Taeyong gay?” question, an answer with 71 likes is

 

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“I think he’s gay. I saw someone say that Taeyong has never hinted at being gay. That person is wrong. Taeyong literally said in an interview that he has no interest in girls. Based on that statement, he’s either gay or an aromantic asexual. Gay people are way more common that aromantic asexuals so I’m going with gay.

 

Also Taeyong has expressed interest in dating, just not with women. (As far as I know, this part isn’t true, I’ve never seen Taeyong say this). 

I’ll explain further why I think Taeyong is gay. He’s gotten flustered by men multiple times. I know there was the scandal involving him being homophobic in his school days. I honestly think he had a lot of internalized homophobia but is more comfortable with his sexuality nowadays.” 

Now I’m thinking whether some of the reasons in this answer is due to Taeyong being kind of neurodivergent.

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On 4/24/2022 at 4:57 PM, poffertje said:

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i love how none of this relates to their post, it's just another excuse to fill the thread with an absolute deluge of incredibly flimsy receipts to reinforce whatever narrative about taeyong you've constructed in your head today.

your posts about other idols rarely bother me and a lot are pretty funny or insightful, but whenever anyone even tangentially mentions taeyong you seem to lose all your critical thinking skills.

i don't want to play armchair psychologist either but for some reason you project extremely heavily onto taeyong in a way that i can only describe as obsessive and it's genuinely concerning sometimes. on top of that it makes you so biased that your posts about him are almost useless because we can never tell what is real or what is just you nitpicking about 3 second clips until you see something that makes sense with your fantasy.

i know a lot of other posters have addressed this before but after lurking in this thread for almost a year now i feel comfortable in telling you that i think it'd be a good idea to disengage from taeyong and figure out why exactly you spend so much time and energy on thinking about him, because what you do goes way beyond being someone's fan.

 

I’m not projecting, he’s just very confusing.
His recent interview with NME about his song “Love Theory” is sounding kind of aromantic(?). I’m learning about these different romantic/sexual identities too. 

“Love itself is very, is very difficult and complicated for me,” adds Taeyong, who wrote and produced the song alongside collaborator Wonstein and frequent SM producer Zayson, “so Wonstein helped me out a lot with the lyrics to the song”. 
 

https://www.nme.com/features/music-interviews/taeyong-love-theory-interview-nct-superm-friendship-exo-baekhyun-3211697?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=
 

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Didn’t someone earlier say aro and/or ace is more common among ND people? 

"Love itself is very, is very difficult and complicated for me", so he needed help with writing the lyrics. Someone earlier said being ND is not just being "oddy, eccentric, quirky" but has a whole set of challenges and internal cognitive differences. Doesn't this kind of reflect Taeyong and his experience with love?

I really don’t think he’s asexual…this is someone who recently got a “Rude Boy” tattoo, but he might be aro/or “unusual” on the romantic side. 

This will be my last post about it, so everyone can chill. 

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On 4/27/2022 at 3:38 AM, winaevis said:

ever since I joined this thread and I come back to see what’s new there is a long post of meeeee talking about nct (mostly taeyong) and it’s always full of skulls or LOL  

I talk about other idols too. 

Like I think Ren is gay/bi, I just needed a bit of convincing. 

Also this isn’t a strong gay receipt for me. I thought we’ve already discussed how Korean men are fascinated with muscles. I could even see a straight Korean man doing this. Sexuality isn’t tied to it…it’s just a lemme touch, wow, wow different, innocent objectify kind of thing. 

“also this lol. they met this random man in Australia and he just...” 

And yes I was/am obsessive with Taeyong but my opinion of him has changed over time. Initially I was like “so gay” (and I know I’m not the only one) but then I saw it’s more complicated than that. I think I’ve exhausted my thoughts on him and looked at all plausible possibilities. I’ve spent time and energy on it, I would like to know the truth in my lifetime. 

Me trying to figure-out Taeyong 

 

Edit: Twitter is so…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not Kpop-related, but what do people think of HeartStopper actor Sebastian Croft?

This tweet seems sus 

Why did he say “thank you” followed by pride flags?

And what is this?? 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Regina said:

...the question was asked in english obvs by a western fan like did you not see me say 100 times that nobody in korea has ever thought this man was gay/queer and it's literally only international kpop bozos lmao

His own Exo members think he’s gay though and they’re in Korea.

 

Why is the Korean gp opinion the gold standard of who’s gay or not? They’re pretty ignorant unless an idol is really femme like Daewhi or out-there like Heechul. I think I read somewhere in this thread that there are people in Korea who think Key is straight. That time when Sehun nervously said “I like men” in front of an audience who just laughed? 

And even if there are lgbt or we’ll-meaning Korean people who pick-up that an idol might be queer, I think they would keep more quiet about it so as to not jeopardise the idol’s career. 

Whereas Western fans are like don’t hide, be yourself, are you gay?, trending “x gay”…without understanding the culture of what it’s like to come out/be out in Korea. 

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2 hours ago, gam3 bo1 said:

would it be a reach to interpret this as possibly gay art or nah

saw this comparison too

 

I would say it’s gay, but why would he draw himself kissing Winwin 

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I know this isn’t gay-related but it was so funny, there was a huge fight about it yesterday between Taeyong’s fans 

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Also, his reaction to fanboys (I think there are two different ones since he looks at two different locations). 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/3/2022 at 2:58 PM, lgbtxt said:

he looks more annoyed than anything else tbh lmao 

Yeah I think you’re right. I would also be annoyed if someone yelled at me to look at them
It’s just that he does it in his “fruity” little way 

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Yes that was strange sorry, I’ll stick to the topic from now on and only talk about Taeyong being bisexual
 

From 8:10 - 8:50 Baekhyun is holding the camera and Taeyong is flirting with him in his own Taeyong way. At 8:34 Baekhyun kind of bites his lips and drags his last word when Taeyong does a “sexy move”…Uhh Baekhyun(??). Taeyong looks at Ten almost as if for encouragement at 8:43. Before Baekhyun’s enlistment, the way Taeyong excessively laughed at all of Baekhyun’s jokes, like one does with their crush. Baekhyun convinced Taeyong to go to the gym and do the MBTI test. The guy’s whipped. 

 

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, oh my dora said:

which idol comes to mind where you feel people think they're lgbtq+ but homophobic at the same time?

 

idk why i've been getting into block b recently but i feel like that's been the main consensus around zico but i wouldn't know much

lmao wtf 

I mean it’s not gay to find another man pretty aesthetically. 

The screenshot is legit??!?

 I don’t know enough about Korean culture to fully make up my mind. Were the boys told to act like that (I.e skinship/fanservice for the camera, and that guy was saying it as a joke)? 

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On 4/26/2018 at 12:43 PM, Jawline said:

Forever iconic

 

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I don't follow this thread, so if this gets posted often I apologize.

 

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The last gif is damning. You can see the emotion 

Considering this alongside Bakehyun saying that Sehun has no interest in girls; that Vlive of Sehun saying something like “When I look at men why does my heart flutter”?, and his members lowkey exposing him in that radio show with Ryewook saying “For privacy reasons let’s move on”…

Case closed. 
 

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Xiumin trying to open up Baekhyun’s crotch area with “Alohomora” ???

 

Along with that Vixx Leo pic and him apparently being known for trying to kiss the boys when drunk, the possibility of Xiumin being mlm for me has become stronger

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mEeEeE’s Shinee/ EXO/ BTS/ NCT Gay Allegations

Shinee 

Gay: Key 

Bisexual or bicurious: Jonghyun 

Bicurious or straight: Taemin 

Straight: Onew, Minho 
 

Exo

Gay: Sehun, Tao

Gay or bisexual: Xiumin

Bisexual or straight: Suho (?) Edit- I literally know nothing about Suho except he has bisexual rumours but don’t know what they are. 

Bicurious: Baekhyun 

Bicurious or straight: Kyungsoo (?)

Straight: Chen, Lay, Chanyeol, Kris, Kai, Luhan (?). 
 

BTS

Gay or bisexual: Jimin

Bi or Pan: Yoongi 

Bisexual or bicurious: Taehyung 

Bicurious or straight: RM, Jin, Jungkook, J-Hope. 

NCT

Gay: Ten, Jungwoo 

Bi or Pan: Taeyong 

Bisexual or bicurious: Jaehyun  

Bisexual or bicurious or straight: Jeno (?)

Bicurious: Xiaojun, Yangyang, Yuta

Bicurious or straight: Jaemin, Haechan, Mark, Lucas, Taeil, Sungchan (?)

Straight: Johnny, Doyoung, Winwin, Kun, Hendery, Chenle, Renjun, Jisung, Shotaro (?)

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On 5/9/2022 at 7:19 PM, oh my dora said:

the screenshot is from this video and it is said at 0:13

That’s the thing, these Kpop companies don’t want people to think their idols are actually gay.

In this clip all the members are trying to kiss assault that one member, including Zico repeatedly going for the neck and that member saying “Zico has unusual sexual taste, he also likes men”. The company saw that and decided to include it in the clip!? 

All the skinship idols do isn’t taken seriously as an indicator of gayness by the Korean public. It’s just seen as “play”…unless lips touch and then Koreans start questioning I.e Heechul. Part of it is for fanservice …girls like seeing two guys together, they can also self-insert without having a girl there to make them jealous. 

tbc

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10 hours ago, vafonso19971 said:

What about this April 2021 interview on Weverse where he says something similar to the 2018 one? Wouldn't he be talking again about him not being gay or not?

Interviewer: You also said that Jamie is a lot like you

REN: There were a lot of people who looked at me funny when I debuted and I had long hair. It has improved, but I hope that people's consciousness will improve and that they can be more open-minded than they are now. I hope people don't jump to any conclusions, no matter how I change my appearance, and just think: This person is cool. He pulls it well.

 

https://magazine.weverse.io/article/view?lang=en&num=141

You know there's this thing called being in the closet, and wanting to stay in the closet?

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On 5/14/2022 at 9:13 PM, gam3 bo1 said:

i don't think he's speculated upon but apparently yugyeom's concert yesterday in london was held at a gay club so that's fun 

 

4 hours ago, oh my dora said:

yeah it was in heaven. holland posted going there a while ago as well

That's kinda sus lol or perhaps he's trying to appeal to the queer market?

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Anyway I thought GOT7 was one of the straighter groups, besides Jackson possibly being bi or bicurious, so this is interesting. 

 

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