Which male idols do you think are gay?

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EXO: Sehun

GOT7: Jinyoung

Monsta X: Minhyuk
BTS: V
Btob: Sungjae (Minhyuk is close though)
Shinee: Key

Infinite: Woohyun
VIXX: N
NCT: Ten
Seventeen: Mingyu (Joshua is close though)

KNK: Seungjun

Edited February 6, 2017 by Frogurt

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Another  "I'm not gay!1!1!" concern from Hello Counselor, this time from a foreigner.  

 

Don't expect much from their comments.  Cringing throughout the whole thing. There's just too much to even begin with,

 

It starts at 29 min.

 

 

 

I stopped watching as soon as they "joked" that Hong Seok Cheon is "dangerous."

 

The most frustrating thing about these shows is that they always act like it would be okay if the guest/whatever were gay, but you can tell they don't actually think that and do whatever they can to make the person seem straight.

Edited February 6, 2017 by Frogurt

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@38 seconds in:

 

http://www.vlive.tv/video/16700?channelCode=F28195

 

That's Jeup, right? I really didn't expect his voice to sound like that, but I love it.

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i don't like his voice when he talks, he sounds like a cartoon character

 

 

 

u betta stan imfact

He sounds like he just inhaled a bunch of helium. I think it's cute, I wonder what he actually would sound like with helium, lol.

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OT, but since we talk about ThaI BL shows sometimes...

 

There's a Thai gay couple and one of them (Newyear) may have just been cast in a new BL series.

 

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If you haven't seen them before (Both and Newyear):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqEOP_LS9ks

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU9MLnF1O-s

 

There's videos of them everywhere. I'm not sure if he's been confirmed as part of the cast yet but it sure would be nice to have an openly gay guy play a main character in one of these BL shows for once.

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I don't know what you're all talking about. Baekhyun is clearly as straight as a ruler:

 

 

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What if Jokwon actually came out?

 

(I'm not particularly good with words, so my apologies in advance. Also, I don't mean to pressure Jokwon and I'm sure he himself knows what he does and handles his situation well and knows how to protect himself. And sorry if this was already discussed to death without me)

 

Scanning the last pages I asked myself this question repeatedly and I'm not sure what would happen. Some of you said that Jokwon wouldn't come out since he still has to go to the army. If he came out, he wouldn't have to do mandatory army service - which would get him probably shunned twice by the Korean public: for avoiding army and for being gay. From what I've gathered Korean closeted gay men join the army to not receive discrimination or disadvantage in future work places, because their bosses could otherwise see their sexuality in their CV (if I'm not mistaken).

 

Jokwon is a celebrity, a public figure and if he came out, everybody would know, not just his future bosses. And a small positive part inside of me can't stop hoping that the people who employed Jokwon so far are well aware of his glass closet and didn't mind, so they might as well be ok with him being out. Also the entertainment industry is generally more open, as I understand it. 

Putting the wishful thinking aside, maybe the tv stations that employed Jokwon so far don't want to be associated with LGBT+ topics (or being active supporters) and would therefore ban him from appearing?

And at this point wouldn't Hong Seok Cheon jump in and help Jokwon? He managed to come back to TVs after coming out and is generally successful. 

 

*I just read the wikipedia article again, and never mind what I said, I found this: "Homosexual military members in active duty are categorized as having a "personality disorder" or "behavioural disability" and can either be institutionalized or dishonorably discharged." Now that does sound bad. 

 

So possible scenarios could look like this

A) Jokwon comes out, no army, causes an uproar, gets hate from many people but also support from people who are already out and from allies or international fans, he potentially paves the way for other idols to seriously consider coming out

B) He comes out during military service, which is the worst possible thing he could do and extremely unlikely to happen

C) He stays longer in the closet, does military service and gets credit for not skipping it, he can rely on a stable employment (if that exists in the entertainment industry...) because he's still in the glass closet. Maybe later he would consider coming out.

 

And what exactly do Koreans think about closeted gay men who did military service? If Jokwon came out later in his life would he get hate for having been in the army?

 

I think C is the most likely. I don't see any benefits for him coming out at the moment. An aspect I think you're missing is that a decent amount of Koreans can even see that he's in a glass closet, so they would probably already be comfortable or uncomfortable with him serving in the military anyway. I think he'll probably use Korea's heteronormativity to his advantage until after his service and only come out if he feels secure, which I also don't really see happening...but who knows?

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Jeup - straight

Ungjae - bi but he more likes boys

Sang -

Taeho -

Jian -

 

Jeup: Dunno, need to observe him more

Ungjae: Same as what you said

Sang: Same as Jeup. A bit more suspicious though, imo

Taeho: He pings me a lot for some reason, but he seems to always be the target of gay affection in Imfact rather than the initiator

Jian: He seems pretty darn gay to me

 

Anyway, does Taeho ping anyone else here, or is it just me?

 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2017 by Frogurt

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Dang  I always thought Seokmin was straight tbh But now that I think abt it, looking at his interactions with girls, I don't know why I thought that.

 

Is there any other evidence for Seokmin? 

 

 

Seokmin/DK was all over Vernon/Hansol and ex-member Doyoon during the predebut days. I've posted these before, but they remain relevant:

 

Kissing and biting Vernon's ears:

 

 

 

Kissing and Biting Vernon on purpose during a paper kiss game and causing Vernon to bleed and say "yo man, read the contract" in English (at 2:35 and 3:22):

 

 

 

Just being suspicious in general (also Mingyu):

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqDUggHXETk

 

He would always "jokingly" hit on the others, but you could tell there was some genuine interest on his part (For example, :35 until the end. His face, lol):

 

 

 

DK being extra:

 

 

 

The thing about Hoshi sleeping makes DK sound more gay, imo.   Hoshi is suspicious every now and then but is a pretty undeniable mess around pretty girls, though he has gotten better about this. On the other hand, DK has never seemed that way.

Edited February 14, 2017 by Frogurt

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Inho and Jinsub from Boys24:

 

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rough trans: "Unintentional couple with Inho hyung, Can't seem to let go, then I'll hold on. See you later."

Edited February 14, 2017 by Frogurt

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Interesting...

 

Just in case anyone didn't see Byungchan's fabulous dance skills on Weekly Idol (turn captions on):

 

 

 

His dance battle against Kino from Pentagon and Jane from Momoland is adorable. This boy knows how to use dem hips (Kino seemed like he just wanted to watch, lol).

Edited February 15, 2017 by Frogurt

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Sounds like I'm going to be the new OP of this thread soon, so bow down to me but nothing is going to change. Carry on~

Edited February 15, 2017 by Frogurt

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Old, but Shownu acknowledging a fanboy:

 

 

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Imfact though...

 

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Edited February 15, 2017 by Frogurt

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I actually posted the second one a few pages back, but do you happen to know where the screencaps come from? 

 

No. I want to know too.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtQw3j22F78

 

 

 

Also, this was posted a few days back, but it wasn't subbed. Jinjin does an impromptu coming out skit with Eunwoo @9:10.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc9c3CyuRrU

 

Why Jinjin thought doing this would make her heart flutter is anyone's guess.

Edited February 15, 2017 by Frogurt

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Some birds from Korea are chirping that there is something more going on between these two than just a bromance. Opposed to the way tv and media are trying to sell it as just close friendship... personally I do feel some sort of romantic vibe whenever I see them together, surely the chemistry is there. However, not enough evidence to be certain.

 

What specifically are they chirping?

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I've posted some stuff on winner and IKON before, but i'll just leave this here! 

Who's behind Seunghoon?

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Jungkook's English, though:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB2BnUwTRt0

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Both Baekyhun and Taehyung obviously like boys (and their thirst is off the charts) but I've always got the bisexual vibe from them so I wanted to share this video to see what you guys think (it's not gay so I'll put it in a cut lmao)

 

Baekhyun and Taehyung checking out Hwasa's ass:

 

 

 

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V honestly didn't look that interested, but Baekhyun was definitely   ing. Can someone calm this boy's thirst, please?

Edited February 22, 2017 by Frogurt

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So have anyone seen the latest weekly idol. I feel like they took the cutest/gayest members ever. One idol from 4 groups. KNK, Astro, Monsta X and SF9 (idk about the Sf9 member tbh) but I'm waiting for subs. These members have been discussed at least once on this thread. Anyone want to guess?

 

 

 

I could tell  Seungjun and MJ before they even spoke, but it took me a minute to recognize Shownu. I don't know much about SF9, so I looked at the comments and people are saying it's Dawon? Does he ping at all?

 

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Also, this is a bit OT again, but...

 

Remember how a few weeks ago I posted about a new Thai BL series that was casting, and one of the people auditioning (Newyear) was from a popular Thai gay couple (Both and Newyear)?

 

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Apparently he got a lot of support and passed to the final round of people auditioning for the role, which was good, until the casters suddenly released a statement saying that they only want heterosexual men playing the parts in their gay drama.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el6WuNTxBh0

 

So now people are pissed and saying they only used Newyear as a marketing ploy.

Edited February 22, 2017 by Frogurt

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So far what I've garnered from Imfact is that everyone except Jeup has a crush on Taeho? The poor boy never catches a break. He pings too, though. 

 

Edit: didn't want to double post, so:

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2017 by Frogurt

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More Taehunty:

 

 

Of course he had to be with raging gaylord Seungjun. 

Edited February 26, 2017 by Frogurt

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Just what exactly is happening at 0:58-1:07 here?

 

 

 

 

And Sungyeol pinching dat nip at 1:12.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Frogurt

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tbh can someone tell if my bias is gay

 

 

 

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Q&A and Profile

 

 

 

obviously not enough to judge from but take ur guess or soemhitng idk

 

 

 

It's really not enough material to work with. I can see that he's a sensitive and humble guy, but that just makes me want to stan him, not think he's gay.   I would need to see more of how he interacts with men and women and how he responds to certain situations and questions that are a bit more complex than the ones that were asked of him. Nothing about him really jumps out at me right away, is what I guess I'm saying. I still have a lot to learn about Victon, though. The only ones I know so far are Subin and Byungchan. Byungchan pinged me a bit when he slayed both Momoland and Pentagon at girl group dances on Weekly Idol (dem hips), but I don't have enough on him either to really make a good guess. Sometimes gay attraction is blatant and forward (like Imfact ) and sometimes it's a lot more subtle and stifled. Sometimes gay ping is in your face immediately with mannerisms and attitudes (think Inpyo from Boys24), and other times it's hidden at a much more personal level and can be measured from how people react to certain questions/skinship/situations (think Jinyoung from GOT7). If this all sounds really vague, that's because it is.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Frogurt

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ah i know it's not enough material haha but it's hard because since not many people know the group let alone my bias so i was just trying to find some concise info that could perhaps give a hint, he has not that much skinship tho (not that he hates it) and it seems  that he genuinely cares for the members. He does seems more close to the rapper if that means anything 

 

 

 

and about byungchan

 

tbh, byungchan seems really straight to me, he just has the role of "girl group dancer" in the group that's all lol

 

but then he's close with sejun all the time so i am not sure 

 

 

probably told by the company or something

 

while chanbin (subin and chan ship) is so real but at the same time seems like fanservice

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, just keep in mind that as long as it's gay, it belongs here.   It can be the most obscure group ever; the thread title doesn't ask only which popular male idols are gay, and I for one am always happy to learn about new people and groups. Bring more Victon goodies if you can and it may turn into more of a discussion with analysis over time.

 

 

Even they're all onto him by this point...

 

EDIT: Somehow I missed this when it was new. Turn on captions and skip to 24:25:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1MhrgZlZA

 

Eunwoo and Jinyoung are asked to do a skit where they fight over girl Youngjae, but Eunwoo and Jinyoung just kind of awkwardly smile at each other until Youngjae asks if they are dating, and then once the skit actually begins Jackson keeps fangirling in the background.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Frogurt