Which male idols do you think are gay?

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On 2/26/2022 at 9:07 PM, annetamiau said:

Not disagreeing with you, but this doesn't negate the fact that very stereotypically camp people are still very likely to be part of the community, even if they are bisexual and not gay. I feel being woke nowadays is saying that stereotypes are absolutely unfounded because there are people that don't fit them, and that's just not true in my experience.

On a different note, I've seen some posts saying that Heechul is very likely straight. When did this switch in opinion happen? Even if his relationship with Momo wasn't a publicity stunt, he still has a very valid decade long list of receipts, including a possible past relationship with a male non celebrity. Why is he not considered bisexual?

Also, a very random question: if news broke tomorrow of say, jo kwon being in a relationship with a woman and his agency confirmed it, would you believe it? It's just been on my mind latetly, and seeing how quick everyone was to believe Heechul's relationship, I've been wondering about that.

I never said stereotypes are absolutely unfounded. Jo Kwon is glass closet and stereotypically fem gay/camp. I’m not saying I think he isn’t lgbt, and if news broke that he was in a relationship with a woman I wouldn’t believe it. I’m wondering, does he have receipts where he’s shown attraction to men? 

It’s not true in your experience that there are stereotypes who aren’t gay? Hmmm have you heard of Barry Humphries? He’s an Australian known for his drag persona “Dame Edna Everage”, and looks flamboyant in real life when you see pictures of him. He has a wife and kids and hasn’t mentioned being lgbt. He’s a flamboyant straight man.

I haven’t followed Heechul or Suju much. I do believe he’s attracted to women 

Tbc

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One of Taeyong's (producer?) friends posted this

please the “…..” 

Could either be Taeyong being gay or just very sweet, hard to tell with him. 

Edit: Is he saying it’s not usual for straight Korean guys to give fancy chocolates to other men at all, let alone for Valentines? 

Maybe Taeyong is expressing his platonic love without worrying about appearing gay? My little sister made me a Valentine’s Day card when she was young (big age gap), but Taeyong’s an adult. 

He’s confusing. Like on the surface this is gay, even the recipient was thinking it…

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This is the box of chocolates. And a Korean said they’re limited-edition which you have to make reservation for omg 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/26/2022 at 7:36 PM, mEeEeE said:

Completely random but you know the  comedy movie series “Harold and Kumar”? Well the actor who plays Kumar, Kal Penn (who’s also an academic lecturer), came out last year and revealed he’s been in a relationship with a guy for 11 years. Like wow. People (not necessarily here but you know) keep citing “femininity/androgyny/yaaasss/fruitiness in idols they think are lgbt but it’s such a narrow view. Did he ping anyone before he came out? 

 

On 2/26/2022 at 9:07 PM, annetamiau said:

Not disagreeing with you, but this doesn't negate the fact that very stereotypically camp people are still very likely to be part of the community, even if they are bisexual and not gay. I feel being woke nowadays is saying that stereotypes are absolutely unfounded because there are people that don't fit them, and that's just not true in my experience.

On a different note, I've seen some posts saying that Heechul is very likely straight. When did this switch in opinion happen? Even if his relationship with Momo wasn't a publicity stunt, he still has a very valid decade long list of receipts, including a possible past relationship with a male non celebrity. Why is he not considered bisexual?

Also, a very random question: if news broke tomorrow of say, jo kwon being in a relationship with a woman and his agency confirmed it, would you believe it? It's just been on my mind latetly, and seeing how quick everyone was to believe Heechul's relationship, I've been wondering about that.

 

On 2/27/2022 at 10:50 PM, mEeEeE said:

I never said stereotypes are absolutely unfounded. Jo Kwon is glass closet and stereotypically fem gay/camp. I’m not saying I think he isn’t lgbt, and if news broke that he was in a relationship with a woman I wouldn’t believe it. I’m wondering, does he have receipts where he’s shown attraction to men? 

It’s not true in your experience that there are stereotypes who aren’t gay? Hmmm have you heard of Barry Humphries? He’s an Australian known for his drag persona “Dame Edna Everage”, and looks flamboyant in real life when you see pictures of him. He has a wife and kids and hasn’t mentioned being lgbt. He’s a flamboyant straight man.

I haven’t followed Heechul or Suju much. I do believe he’s attracted to women 

Tbc

 

On 2/28/2022 at 12:29 AM, annetamiau said:

I never said gay, I said part of the community. In my experience, men who are very very camp are generally at least bisexual, even if they end up marrying a woman that they feel attracted to and have kids. 

I didn't know about Barry Humphries , but I looked him up and this 'drag' persona seems to be just a persona, and he also has a male one I see. I'm from a southern European country, and at least here it used to be quite common for certain comedians to have one or several female characters that they would keep over the years. It was a completely different thing from drag culture. I don't find this man particularly famboyant either, but I'll admit I've only watched like 10 minutes of him. 

I'll finish answering your first reply. 

I haven’t followed Heechul or Suju that much. I do believe he’s attracted to women and I think him and Momo are real. Momo even wrote an apology letter to Onces (apologising for dating lol). It seems like Heechul's kisses with members on stage were more publicity stunts than him and Momo. I don't know about this possible past relationship with a male non-celeb so I'm not going to comment, but I do remember reading people saying he's shown attraction to female idols, particularly younger ones? Hopefully he's not a creep like Leeteuk, that guy's a creep. He could still be bisexual, what are these “decade-long list of receipts” you’re talking about?

" In my experience, men who are very very camp are generally at least bisexual'. In my original post, did I ever say very very camp men are not likely lgbt?  I meant it is a narrow view when thinking about lgbt men. Idols like Daewhi, Key, Sunoo (?), have gay rumours from Korean general public, but I hope they don’t think a Korean Luke Evans, Korean Kal Penn, or Korean Rock Hudson is not possible. Following the Isaiah Rashad incident I read a comment saying “N-word don’t even look gay” on one of his videos. Other comments however, on his interviews, are about him being “zesty” or “sweet” or his mannerisms. 

Even if he does have a male persona and is a comedian, I think Barry Humphries is flamboyant enough to generate at least a little lgbt speculation, though he isn’t Jo Kwon or RuPaul. 

I just wish there was a variety of openly lgbt public figures men and women in Korea, and in other non-western countries tbh.

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I read what “Killing Stalking” is about and what the actual…I’m betting 99% that not written by an lgbtq+ male. 

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20 hours ago, mEeEeE said:

One of Taeyong's (producer?) friends posted this

please the “…..” 

Could either be Taeyong being gay or just very sweet, hard to tell with him. 

Edit: Is he saying it’s not usual for straight Korean guys to give fancy chocolates to other men at all, let alone for Valentines? 

Maybe Taeyong is expressing his platonic love without worrying about appearing gay? My little sister made me a Valentine’s Day card when she was young (big age gap), but Taeyong’s an adult. 

He’s confusing. Like on the surface this is gay, even the recipient was thinking it…

Apparently giving fancy chocolates to a guy around Valentines Day is not gay enough for the gay thread

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5 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

It's not supposed to be an LGBT or even BL story tho, it's horror. But yeah it's written by a woman (idk her sexuality) and the story perpetuates some harmful tropes such as Sangwoo being straight but gay only for Bum .... *rolls eyes*. But if the drama is framed as a horror and minimizes the stereotypical BL/yaoi aspects I see no problem with it tbqh. 

I know it’s not supposed to be lgbt, it’s just fetish-y.

It has the seme/uke, monster daddy cock/fragile bottom, size difference, non-con, “bottom looks feminine/reminds him of some female that’s why top is sexually interested in him” tropes to the max 

This legit looks paedophilic

Spoiler

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On 2/22/2022 at 10:06 PM, mEeEeE said:

NCT127 + Ten Sexuality (not including gender) Analysis because why not. 

Ten: 100% gay. 

Jungwoo: Not sure if any attraction to women but…he gay. 

Taeil: Mostly straight. But you see him and Haechan in BDLI? Yeah not completely disgusted by guys. 

Johnny: Mostly straight. Might get high and kiss a dude. Likes to slap asses but who doesn’t.

Doyoung: Mostly straight, and with a low sex-drive (Doyoung I’m sorry if this wrong). Didn’t mind running his hand up Taeyong’s leg in Love on the Floor choreo. 

Yuta: Into women and seems to be the type of free-spirited guy to not be prejudiced with transwomen. Can also see him being into non-binary people. Would flirt with guys for fun. I can sort of see him experimenting with guys? He’s tricky, I need to do more research. 

Mark: Straight but not as straight as a ruler. His gay panic may be driven by over-fear of his own slight same-sex feelings? Was affected by Johnny’s post bear-fight body. 

Haechan: From what I’ve seen he seems straight and either likes skinship and/or is good at fanservice. 

Jaehyun: Bisexual- female lean? I still think he’s into women. I remember that video of him that looked like he was checking-out a girl. I think he does have some same-sex feelings and I know many people think so to.

Taeyong: Lol. I can see him being into anything and everything with his, hers and theys older and younger. I know I previously said bisexual- male lean but now I’m not so sure. I’ve analysed him to death as you guys know. At this point, I’m going with Bisexual/Pansexual which I think describes him the best.  

Edit: hopefully I removed my previous transphobia. I’m all for being educated. 

 

On 2/26/2022 at 12:34 PM, mEeEeE said:

My brief thoughts on Exo?

Most sus for being lgbt: Sehun, Tao, Xuimin. 

I can’t see Baekhyun as 100% straight but neither as lgbt. If he was genuinely lgbt, I can’t see him being so open about showering and being naked with other members plus the stuff he’s said. I can’t see him in a romantic relationship with a guy but there may be a little sexual component idk. 

 

 I actually think hardly anyone is 100% straight 

 

 

 

Please, and Taeil had the audacity to say this 

KAI GAY, TAEIL GAY, MARK GAY 

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Mark Lee Bi?

 

 

I can’t see him having romantic feelings for a guy but he’s not immune to the hotness of guys 

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12 hours ago, jay94 said:

I was backtracking and saw your comment. I'm a long time fan but I can't figure him out. We saw him getting excited about women (remember his reaction when Park Ji Yoon chose him?) but he also said and did some sus things. I think he might be bisexual but who knows..

I saw Armys posting this list on a different site. Some points are doubtful but others.. 

1. In a video for Mnet, he did rap "Whether it's boys or girls I don't care, let's just go crazy"
2. Cypher and its lyrics: "Whether it's a guy or girl, my tongue will make you come." then added Hoseok moaning to the track, and you can hear him moan live.
3. Said that his ideal type of a man is someone like Cha Seung Won on C-Radio
4. When members were joking about Namjoon and Jin he yelled "Boycrush, boycrush"
5. Got the most excited out of the group when V and J-Hope had to kiss during a game and was pushing their heads towards each other so they could do it
6. Said he can feel himself falling in love when he looks into Jimin's eyes
7. Asked Namjoon if he's into the male PD
8. Said that Andy, the male MC, is his celebrity crush
9. Said that Taehyung fell in love with a male photographer after he complimented him
10. Watched and was able to name the two lead actors in Frozen Flower which is a gay movie. Both Namjoon and Yoongi said they watched it and other members started joking 'When did you watch it' since it was an adult movie.
11. Namjoon was asked about the song by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis "Same Love" he tweeted about earlier - the interviewer said that fans naturally understood it as them supporting gay rights - "It's hard to find the right words, to reverse the words: Saying 'same love' is saying 'Love is the same'. I just really liked the song. Suga, though, is clear on when he stands: "There's nothing wrong, everyone is equal."
12. Said that Jin needs to be serious about kissing him while filming (Jin kept laughing when they got too close).
13. While V and Suga were there during the filming, an extra was getting ready to get in bed to pretend to be J-Hope for one of the scenes. When Suga joked that he should do it instead, J-Hope got excited about the idea of a cameo. In the end J-Hope didn't do this scene with any of the guys.
14. He said that it's the atmosphere between two people is what matters to him when he falls in love, not the sex of the person.
15. He bought and wore Vans shoes in 2020 released to celebrate LGBTQ Pride Month that were from a limited edition and you had to go to the store to get them.
16. He said he used to write stories (fanfiction) about his favorite male singer and male athlete when he was younger.
17. He said "I would be half-human and half-fish (The Little Mermaid). He was asked what would he choose: Trade his voice for legs vs Meet the prince as his true self. He replied "Will the prince be understanding of that? He'll understand if he loves me that much. I'll choose to meet the prince after getting legs." 
18. When creating BT21 characters he said: "I actually want all of them to be gender neutral. I don't want them to be classified in two gender groups."
19. Said he could date a man during Festa
20. When BTS were asked about what they considered a sexy concept for men he said he found middle aged men with beards sexy. He said he liked when they were dirty sexy - whatever that meant.
21: Lyrics: "I have no interest in your d*ck"

I also think forming a relationship with your band mate is the least likely scenario. Many fans want to prove that some BTS ships are real but I don't think any of these moments shippers share mean anything. But then again what can we expect when Taekook is one of the most popular ships and they have moments like this one being treated as a proof.. 

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They sound like friends who used to be close but now don't have much in common outside work. Also, I don't know if it was scripted or not but Jimin had to lie to Jungkook so he came to talk to Taehyung?? lol

As for Kyungil and Yijeong, they don't follow each other but you can find them both on Insta:

1iL (@1ilgram) • Instagram photos and videos 

장이정 EL CAPITXN (@elxcapitxn) • Instagram photos and videos

 

8 hours ago, DDiddy said:

I find it quite funny that Taehyung is kinda often on this list if you think about the context of  him being dicussed on this thread, it makes it even better haha

Namjoon too, though I'm kinda sad that the boyfriend discussion was so short-lived. 

 

Yoongi has SO many sus moments I don't think  anyone actually thinks he's straight tbh.

I find it remarkably that he put quite tellling lyrics (E.g ''Whether it be men or women, my flexible tongue movements will send them to Hong Kong with my raps'') in songs. Like, Interviews can be deleted or disproven, articles can be taken down too but a song by the artist? that's gonna be on the internet forever, I mean you wouldn't be able to take down a song and not expect reactions by fans. Just a very interesting choice to convey his message in my opinion. 

 

 

4 hours ago, thegirlsrfighting said:

yoongi is genuinely sus to me i believe he is bisexual and has a lot of proof

 

namjoon boyfriend thing wasn’t discussed as long as most people wanted because it turned out not being true, it’s all different men and he shares clothes and stuff with the others as he said on vlive last week he shared his jackets and with all three of the friends he traveled with and was confused as to why none of them got covid

 

taehyung is discussed so much and it makes sense because he recently did some obviously gay things like the posting and deleting of gay media. but yeah he’s discussed so much i would love to see yoongi discussed more. tae and yoongi always ping me as the possibly bisexual or for yoongi maybe even gay members

If Yoongi’s receipts are genuine and not mistranslated or misinterpreted then he’s hella sus. Seems bisexual. 

Taehyung though, I need more receipts than just some gay media to be convinced, does he have receipts like Yoongi? Has he shown attraction/interest in men? 

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6 hours ago, oh my dora said:

interesting

 

Lol does this look straight or gay to people?

1:30…

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3 hours ago, gam3 bo1 said:

speaking of seungkwan and youngji,

 

Right I see lol 

Wait, even Koreans think he’s gay? He must be really obvious then. (I don’t really know him so yeah). 

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Wonho, San, Felix possibly lgbt right? 
 

Wonho has consistently used the “anyone who can cook ramen” answer in response to the ideal type question. And people say his Instagram is a receipt. 
 

San has written “To my baby boy” in a fansign and apparently has never said man/woman/boy/girl etc to ideal type. 
 

And Felix literally asked boy or girl? When someone asked him his ideal type. What do you guys think about him saying Chagmin hyung vs some very broad generic answer for girls? 
 

Also there’s this: 

Not saying doing this means a guy is gay, I’m just saying it would take a brave straight man to do this. 

But also you can’t rule out companies crafting an “androgynous/queer” image for idols to create diversity/for the sake of “art” in a group or to draw queer fans? Do people feel like Felix is genuine with the image he projects? As in is it really him? I don’t know cause I don’t follow SKZ. 

 

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On 1/12/2021 at 1:47 AM, OptimusPremier said:

The unlikely/likely question has been addressed many times before.

1 LGBT member in Nsync

2 (out of 4) in Blue

2 (out of 5) in Spice Girls that have hooked up

Union J (2 out of 5)

Boyzone has 2 and they were together (out of 5)

A member of Westlife (out of 4) and a member of V were together

The Overtones has 2 (out of 5) etc etc..

 

 

5 hours ago, Pyo Hyemi said:

yea but one of them denied it lol

I think one of them said they didn’t enjoy it. As in, they were experimenting and then was like, “yeah I’m not into women”.

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Taeyong is not afraid to outslay a woman, that’s for sure

 

But he also dances to the straight-est songs…

And his personal Soundcloud lyrics are straight, talking about how his crush is his “Marilyn Monroe”. 
 

While also doing this: 

Giving chocolate to a male producer friend for Valentines

 

And here’s NCT having no shame and kissing walls to sell that bf fantasy. 

Anyway if Taeyong’s straight, then he’s the fruitiest straight guy I’ve ever seen, like someone give this guy an award. 

 

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11 hours ago, mEeEeE said:

Taeyong is not afraid to outslay a woman, that’s for sure

 

But he also dances to the straight-est songs…

And his personal Soundcloud lyrics are straight, talking about how his crush is his “Marilyn Monroe”. 
 

While also doing this: 

Giving chocolate to a male producer friend for Valentines

 

 

And here’s NCT having no shame and kissing walls to sell that bf fantasy. 

 

Also him during that infamous Camboy Vlive. 
 

Anyway if Taeyong’s straight, then he’s the fruitiest straight guy I’ve ever seen, like someone give this guy an award. 

 

A male fan’s experience with Taeyong at a concert. Would this be a receipt? 

 

 

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What’s this?

 

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2 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

looks like someone pulling random rumors out of their butt to me 

True, it’s just funny they’re the same or similar to what I suspect

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You guys know about the whole thing with Mingyu and him possibly voting red (conservative)? 

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39 minutes ago, AstroBaby said:

yeah I agree with the above posters that that's a big jump to make without further evidence. In terms of dogwhistles for incel/conservative I'd be on the lookout for recommending/reading '12 rules of life' by Jordon Peterson (it seems too obvious but the Ab6ix member who got kicked out actually did this) or 'man number 2' apart from that there aren't rly a lot of subtle ways to indicate political leaning in SK like in the U.S

 

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hometown also something to consider as well in terms of potential conservativism for idols like Gwanju is like 90% liberal and Daegu is the opposite. ofc I wouldn't assume based on that (I'm from a red state lol) but it's something to consider. Exit polls rn show that 58% of the male 20s vote went to Yoon and 42% went to Lee and the exact opposite for female voters with 58% for Lee and 42% for Yoon.

 

That’s interesting. Can you give the source/s for those stats? 

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6 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

someone asked Wookjin (OnlyOneOf) if he’s gay thru a yt superchat : / meaning they paid money to ask that and he couldn’t easily ignore it. i’m not liking this trend, some fans don’t seem to realize how uncomfortable and potentially dangerous it is for idols to answer these kinds of questions 

 

1. Invasive question cause he has to answer it 

2. I know nothing about this guy, but the way he answered it…gaydar beeping  

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Oh dear god I think I'm bisexual 

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4 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

Okay okay, interesting. Just out of curiosity, are you a guy or woman? Never really asked that, anyways hope that you are dealing with well and that you love yourself nonetheless.

I'm a woman ahah. 

I still heavily lean hetero but I've accepted there are (kind of odd/specific?) times where I'm attracted to woman, it is what it is. 

Thank-you! 

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Thoughts?

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Oh yeah I just want to clarify this is not to be taken seriously. If we could tell a guy was gay just from his voice, then it would be easy to sus them out, this thread probably wouldn’t be 3699 pages long, and Shawn Mendes wouldn’t be frustrated. 

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