fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 *shrug* it's just my weird way of seeing things Shouldn't you have said son complex though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 A backstage account from a dancer at the Dream concert (It's long, so I'm just copying the relevant part here): "The flip side is a surprising amount of fanservice-y things happening when basically there was no one to be fanservice-y for. I guess there were staff and things, but I’d chalk it up more to just a normal amount of the ever-tactile Korean mode of social interactions that seemed surprising in this context. BTOB backhug-cuddling against the snack bar counter would deeeeefinitely be super gay in the states, and on a stage I’d say they were coached into doing fanservice, but we were in a no-camera zone no fans could reach or see and they were like that for a good while (idk if any BTOB fans will see this, but yo: cuddly band). Same jive with woohyun and key holding hands through their entire morning conversations, minho pulling onew’s hood over his head and giving him the super-crushing bear hug treatment (you know, the kind where you sway side to side while your victim tries to nuzzle his way out), Sistar napping draped all over each other, etc etc etc. Knowing that everything we normally see is performative makes me totally cynical about virtually all idol interactions - I mean, I still think a LOT of that stuff is coached/fake/for fancameras, but there’s also real spontaneous affection. A lot of bandmates genuinely get along really well. How heartwarming~ ~ That said, the end stage was quite weird, because everyone was very chummy when backstage there was almost no inter-band interaction. People travelled in pairs or packs, but only with their same band (and/or handlers, coordis, backup dancers, etc). The exception is Shinee, who seemed to have run of the place and buddies everywhere (***Key)." http://momekeko.tumblr.com/post/50619290081/some-pictures-from-my-weekend-dancing-for-the Thank you very much for this find; if you don't mind, I'll throw some of it the SHINee thread way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25%Cotton 7,133 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 the backup dancer's account of woohyun (complete with lots on wookey): woohyun, who…have we ever heard wooyhun speak english? I assumed he had zero (even though his bro’s is passable) but wait, what? “where are you from?†“I’m from the USA~†“Oh, USA! I’m from Korea!†lmao sweetie I know you are!! but way to rock the english great job !!! if you want to learn more just call me !!!! (sadly did not get to say that part T_T) tbh I…never really liked wooyhun that much (wait wait lemme explain) because he just seems ‘on’ all the time; everything is a little bit too-obviously performance, even what we see of him offstage. between this and meeting his mom (different story p.s. swear to god I’m not a stalker, they live near my work) I’m turning around; he a. seems to come by that somewhat overenthused friendliness honestly and b. he turns off. actually his normal…uh, face? expression? when just sitting around or walking somewhere alone is really serious; when he first went by I thought him a lot taller and a lot colder than I’d expected, but not fake. obviously then he went like a lightswitch into ‘Infinite’s Woohyun’ mode, but it seemed less fakey in person? or maybe i was wearing a ‘staff’ pass and trying to act innocuous and unfannish and that made a difference, who knows sidenote he and key seem genuinely amazing bff friends and are the cutest of all things together, lay me down gently. after morning run-throughs before shinee did theirs they were on the side of the field just holding hands and yabbering at each other and when woohyun had to leave key wouldn’t let go and kept pulling him back ittttt was a private conversation between two adult young men! but it was also stupidly precious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destined2bebossy 4,654 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 ^ woohyun and key are beyond adorable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envied 5,831 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee 9,627 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channeler 245 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I wouldn't consider what Minho did to Onew considerably gay though unlike the other instances the dancer gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk-caramel 2,526 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Good point about having to be more careful with skinship but he also seems the type that naturally doesn't care for it in general. Not that he hates it, just could do without it and bears with it when anyone, not just L, does skinship. I don't think he really thinks of it as him having to be careful about anything since he's willing to do things that would be far more suspicious imo than simple skinship with his bandmates. How do you think his feelings have become more apparent? Just curious That’s a really good point too! Some people are just not very touchy, and it could be that Sungjong is the same way. Personally I think if that were the case it would get kind of overwhelming for him, because Infinite seems to be a particularly touchy group. As I mentioned before, it really shows in the little things that Sungjong does. It’s almost like he indulges Myungsoo more now, but at the same time finds enjoyment in it himself. Like sometimes when Myungsoo is doting on him Sungjong will slide his arm around his waist, or when they’re playing around at fan signs he’ll purposely lean on Myungsoo and he even seems more receptive to Myungsoo’s hugs now. Those are just a few small examples, but they’re definitely things that have become more apparent to me recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blinket 2,355 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 9. Singer C is said to have fallen in love with model D while attending an overseas schedule together. C recently went overseas with several other male and female celebrities, but he showed the most interest in D. D reciprocated C's advances, showing interest in his gentle and caring personality. A staff member who visited C's hotel room late at night to brief him on the next day's agenda was said to have been in shock after finding D in C's room with a red face. I'm not trying to argue or anything, but I continue to see this rumor being used as evidence for KeySeop. Don't you think that the rumor would've mentioned that they were both male? That's kind of an important detail, you know. It could've been anyone else. It could've been Hyeongseop or another model with a girl group member. Also, I think that if they were to mention Key, they would've said "idol member" like they usually do. I'm not sure if the first sentence and the second sentence are talking about the same overseas schedule, but we all know Key and Hyeongseop have known each other since they were kids, while the rumor makes it sound like they met recently...or a little while before. Also, this may not always be true, but SHINee usually share hotel rooms with each other. This rumor seems to tell about a solo singer. And I doubt PHS would go around looking at insignificant (to him) unconfirmed rumors and delete tweets because of them. Again, please don't be offended...it's just my view on this rumor Most of the other stuff about Key and Hyeongseop seem like what normal friends would do...i'll look at it thoroughly later, but for now, I haven't found any real evidence of them dating...maybe just close friends...I'm not saying them dating is not a possibility though. They definitely could be. I feel like i'm going to get minused 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kremlindust 714 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'm not trying to argue or anything, but I continue to see this rumor being used as evidence for KeySeop. Don't you think that the rumor would've mentioned that they were both male? That's kind of an important detail, you know. It could've been anyone else. It could've been Hyeongseop or another model with a girl group member. Also, I think that if they were to mention Key, they would've said "idol member" like they usually do. I'm not sure if the first sentence and the second sentence are talking about the same overseas schedule, but we all know Key and Hyeongseop have known each other since they were kids, while the rumor makes it sound like they met recently...or a little while before. Also, this may not always be true, but SHINee usually share hotel rooms with each other. This rumor seems to tell about a solo singer. And I doubt PHS would go around looking at insignificant (to him) unconfirmed rumors and delete tweets because of them. Again, please don't be offended...it's just my view on this rumor Most of the other stuff about Key and Hyeongseop seem like what normal friends would do...i'll look at it thoroughly later, but for now, I haven't found any real evidence of them dating...maybe just close friends...I'm not saying them dating is not a possibility though. They definitely could be. I feel like i'm going to get minused Well, I'm not really using that rumor as evidence for KeySeop. I just included it in my post (in the unconfirmed rumor section) because, like you said, I see alot of people speculate that it's about KeySeop. Plus I just had to add that detail I found about them both being overseas at the GDA (which matched to the rumor). It was also suspicious how alot of PHS tweets were deleted within a week of the rumor. I guess, an alternative explanation could be that, even if that rumor was not about them, alot of people did think it was and probably tweeted PHS about it. So PHS may have deleted his tweets during that same time because of it. But anyway, those posts I made weren't really trying to show that KeySeop is real, just that Key is gay. I have another post about KeySeop with a timeline of their relationship (damn, do I sound like a delusional shipper to already have this on hand? lol, but whatever). I will post it here soon. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeys 246 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'm not trying to argue or anything, but I continue to see this rumor being used as evidence for KeySeop. Don't you think that the rumor would've mentioned that they were both male? That's kind of an important detail, you know. It could've been anyone else. It could've been Hyeongseop or another model with a girl group member. Also, I think that if they were to mention Key, they would've said "idol member" like they usually do. I'm not sure if the first sentence and the second sentence are talking about the same overseas schedule, but we all know Key and Hyeongseop have known each other since they were kids, while the rumor makes it sound like they met recently...or a little while before. Also, this may not always be true, but SHINee usually share hotel rooms with each other. This rumor seems to tell about a solo singer. And I doubt PHS would go around looking at insignificant (to him) unconfirmed rumors and delete tweets because of them. Again, please don't be offended...it's just my view on this rumor Most of the other stuff about Key and Hyeongseop seem like what normal friends would do...i'll look at it thoroughly later, but for now, I haven't found any real evidence of them dating...maybe just close friends...I'm not saying them dating is not a possibility though. They definitely could be. I feel like i'm going to get minused i was about to say something and then i saw your username and was like, 'that explains everything' lol not to be mean but its just how i reacted 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kremlindust 714 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) KeySeop timeline Note: I'm not trying to prove Keyseop with this timeline, I'm just trying to be objective and present the raw facts and dates of when things occurred between Key and PHS. People can come to their own conclusion of the story between them. But if you would like my interpretation of the events, they're in blue text. Everything else presented is raw accounts of what happened and when it occurred. And it's also not complete, but what I was able to find. 2012 Oct. 22 Jonghyun and Key attend Dominic's Way show at Seoul Fashion Week (PHS was a model at this show): In the video below, PHS walks in @ 2:20 and @ 4:25 (and you can see Key in the turquoise beanie) My Input: There were no photos that I'm aware of showing Key and PHS together. So even if they already knew each other as childhood friends then, they didn't seem very close. Key was wearing a distinct turquoise beanie, so it's easy to spot where his head turns in the video above. When PHS walks in @ 2:20, Key looks at him for a bit, then turns his head to the next model @ 2:32 (while PHS was still on the runway). And the 2nd time PHS walks in @ 4:25, Key plays with a piece of paper he's holding and looks down at @ 4:33, then turns to look at the next model (again, this is while PHS is still on the runway). So Key's eyes are not focused solely on PHS; Key is just looking at him like any other model on the runway. However, Key and PHS were both backstage at that show so they may have later connected there and got closer. Nov - Dec No public interactions. My Input: I think they're both gradually reconnecting with each other as Daegu friends. It probably started with casual catching up, but eventually they fall for each other. Because you know when you are in love with someone, you always want to talk about that person and share it to everyone (to the point where some people who have no interest in your relationship might even get sick of it)? Well, this is what PHS soon started doing... 2013 Jan. 9 PHS 1st tweet about Key. A silly text message between them about their ears: @sc1676: Ear tribe friend SHINee Key keke even so my ear is bigger! [Picture translation]: PHS: ah ã…Žã…Ž anyway PHS: people with big ear Key: my ear is big too Key: ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ Guy: i know. ear tribe Jan. 10 They met up for coffee together in the free time after their work schedules: @sc1676: After finishing each of our schedules, I met with Kibum and had a cup of coffee~! @sc1676: I have another shoot~~ And Kibum has to go back to the recording studio~ Jan. 12 Key texts PHS to eat a late night meal with him: (it's most likely 9:19pm in the picture since PHS tweeted at 10:30pm) @sc1676: Good timing for this katalk!! Because im hungry felt like eating chicken alone [Pic] Key: Lets eat meat Key: Lets eat rice PHS: Oh yeah~ My Input: The relationship is starting to move. First the innocent text of them joking about their ears, then a casual coffee meeting, and now asking each other out for what looks like a late night meal. The tweet was tweeted at 10:30pm, so Key probably asked PHS out to eat at 9:19pm. And PHS was probably excited that Key initiated the date and just had to share it on twitter. Jan. 14-16 Key (with SHINee) attended the Golden Disk Award on Jan. 15 located in Malaysia. PHS also traveled to Malaysia with Key: (this was tweeted on 1/16/13) @sc1676: The night before golden disc together with kibum we went to eat chicken and noraebang. we rapped, sang ring ding dong and sherlock together live. kekeke after that because of hungriness we went to eat chapaghetti ramyeon* regret.. *chapaghetti ramyeon is something like.dry ramyeon. [This tweet was deleted by accident] _____________________________________________________________ @sc1676: Uh I wrote a long one.. deleted by accident, the night before golden disc ~ My Input: I'm still wondering what reason PHS could have had to travel far to Malaysia...unless he was just there to support his friend, Key. Which would mean they are starting to get really close now. Jan. 23 PHS and Key hang out with friends: @sc1676: Daegu fam~~~~~mily @sc1676: Friends~~ @sc1676: Turn up!! Turn up!! My Input: I don't know who those other people are, but I think the guy with the hat is PHS's friend (goto the tweet on Feb. 25). So maybe PHS began including Key with some of his Daegu friends. Jan. 25 PHS tweets about Key even when Key is not physically there: @sc1676: Doing a shoot but on the wall. kekekekekekekeke ah funny * don't know when this one was tweeted, but he posted a collage of him and Key My Input: He's starting to ship KeySeop even when Key is not with him, Jan. 30 PHS tweeted an old photo from the same coffee meeting with Key as the one he tweeted on Jan. 10: @sc1676: text My Input: He's reminiscing. I think PHS misses Key when he's not around, and ships himself with Key hard! Feb. 8 Key's good friend, Woohyun, followed PHS on twitter Feb. 9 PHS attends Woohyun's Birthday with Key: @sc1676: Happy birthday!!! Woohyun keke @sc1676: Only the main keke can do the V My Input: Since PHS introduced Key to some of his friends last month, Key is beginning to introduce PHS to his idol friends, and include him in that circle now. Feb. 18 PHS tweet in support of Dream Girl: @sc1676: Oh yea!! Like it and listen to it!RTㄱ pic.twitter.com/pW9mVbRI Feb. 19 PHS called one part of the singing in Dream Girl "super sexy" : @sc1676: 오랜만ì´ì•¼ 드림걸 ë‚ ê¸°ë‹¤ë ¸ì§€ ì´ë¶€ë¶„ ê°œ 섹시하네!!?? [TRANS] The “It’s been a long time, dream girl. You were waiting for me, weren’t you?†part is super sexy!!?? My Input: Only Onew and Key sing someting about "waiting" in the lyrics. But I'm pretty sure he was calling Key's part sexy (because when Key sings it, he also sings "whisper love to me" right after in a sexy tone. [All] Dream Girl, [Taemin] seems like I can touch you but I can’t [All] Dream Girl, [Key] every night I wait for you like this [All] Dream Girl, [Minho] you sweetly whisper love to me ([Key] whisper love to me) [All] Then you disappear in the morning, dream girl Onew sings that line at these times: 0:52 1:46 2:49 (but he doesn't add the "whisper love to me" part) Key sings it at this time: 2:32 (and he also sings "whisper love to me" at 2:40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVfh7UybDJ4 (and those are the only times where something about "waiting" was in the lyrics) Feb. 20 PHS attended SHINee concert and goes backstage to take photos with the other SHINee members (I think this is the first time we see PHS photographed with them): @sc1676: I'm going to enjoy the concert and go home!!^^ I'll upload pictures tonight @sc1676: I'll only upload 8 pictures today. I won't upload pictures that much from now on~!! @sc1676: kekekekeke @sc1676: Done~~~^^ @sc1676: Forgot! @sc1676: I'll keep supporting you!! I will!! Good night~ @sc1676: I cut most of myself out and had SHINee as the focus in the SHINee pictures I uploaded today!! It's a present^^ Goodnight. My Input: Key introduced PHS to members of SHINee already, and I think they know PHS as Key's b/f. Feb. 24 PHS posting another photo from the SHINee show: @sc1676: The top that Taemin wore at the SHINee showcase! I have become the model there! BLINDNESS hwaiting!pic.twitter.com/ANo0sLHPts Feb. 25 PHS posting another photo from the SHINee show again: @sc1676: together with two very big-eyes friend!! so handsome.. you two!! my eyes are also big towards the side*!! *note: meaning his eyes are long My Input: PHS is still tweeting about the SHINee showcase he went to on the 20th, lol. He can't get that night out of his mind. Also, I think the guy in red is the same guy in the hat from the Daegu family photo on Jan. 23 If it is, PHS said it was his friend from Daegu: @keymma96511: @sc1676 맨오른쪽분ì€ëˆ„구세요?.?" ì œ 대구친구 찬성ì´ë¼ëŠ”ì¹œêµ¬ [Rough translation] @keymma69511: Who on the far right?? @sc1676: My friend from Daegu Feb. 27 PHS tweeting in support for SHINee: @sc1676: Today's Show Champion! Really like it that they got #1! I should dance~ Feb. 27 PHS tweets photos and him and Key out together @sc1676: where’s the cap? @sc1676: feel shocked after using camera attack Mar. 3 PHS was in Key's room: @sc1676: Hi Friends, it’s time for room inspection!! pic.twitter.com/AJXhoswz5o Answering questions about who's room he was in: @dl1578: That place…Kibum-ie oppa’s….right? @sc1676: Not my roomã…Žã…ŽKibum’s room @0newmell0:That seems like Kibum-ie oppa’s room..?ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ @sc1676:ㅇㅇ Kibum’s room Edited July 1, 2013 by kremlindust 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kremlindust 714 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Mar. 4 Key sings for PHS over the phone late at night and PHS calls Key "honey": @sc1676: Sulky. I will hear the difference of Dream Girl live over the phone @sc1676: We're freaking keke hilarious (tweeted overnight, so it's most likely 12:18am on the picture) [Picture Translation] Hyeongseop: Let me Hyeongseop: hear it live Hyeongseop: honey Kibum: Okay *There are a couple of accounts that PHS also tweeted something after that, about how amazing it was to listen to Dream Girl live over the phone. But it was deleted within a minute. And it's not just KeySeop shippers, but anti-PHS people also mentioned something on this date about PHS deleting a tweet quickly. My Input: Key mentioned on the 130427 Kiss the Radio interview that he often talks on the phone till very late at night with someone he loves. "Key said he has experienced love at first sight before, used to talk on the phone till late at night, key said he could talk for a long time with anyone, leading them to talk more," Mar. 18 PHS mentioned Key in an interview that Key is a childhood friend: Park Hyoung Seop: Kibum and I were very close from childhood because he's also from Daegu. We often meet when we are both free. We just do what common men [friends?] do, such as going to restaurant, talking about what happened around us and drinking coffee. Mar. 25 PHS tweets a photo of him and Key at SFW (this is the first time Key is photographed by the media/press with PHS): @sc1676: with Keybummie My Input: For it being the 1st time the media/press gets to photograph PHS and Key being "out" together, Key wears a Freddie Mercury badge. It's like he intentionally wanted to hint something, lol. You can also see Key's cute reaction to seeing Hyeongseop on the runway @ 0:11 Mar. 26 Key attends the 2nd day of SFW to support PHS (and both of them upload a photo from it): hyeongseop: "ì´í‹€ì—°ì† ì‘ì› ë•¡í!" [TRANS] "Two consecutive days of supporting, thank you!" Key posts something on his instagram too (the first time it's not just PHS doing the posting/tweeting): bumkeyk: "Im not that small but Ur so tall :-(" My Input: If you compare Key's reaction to PHS on the runway to the SFW from Oct, there is a dramatic change. In this SFW, Key can't keep his eyes off PHS and has a look of love and lust whenever PHS walks past him: @ 0:48 @ 2:32 @ 0:22 and @ 0:44 (and what's he looking @ 0:13 ,lol) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObqnW-8y-iA They are definitely closer to each other than in October. Even if they only knew each other as childhood friends at first, their relationship quickly developed into something more after months of reconnecting with each other. Mar. 27 PHS uses a KeySeop photo at SFW for his twitter icon: Mar. 31 A rumor was published about a model/singer falling in love overseas: 9. Singer C is said to have fallen in love with model D while attending an overseas schedule together. C recently went overseas with several other male and female celebrities, but he showed the most interest in D. D reciprocated C's advances, showing interest in his gentle and caring personality. A staff member who visited C's hotel room late at night to brief him on the next day's agenda was said to have been in shock after finding D in C's room with a red face. My Input: Singer C= Key Model D= Park Hyeong Seop Overseas schedule=Kuala Lumpur Next day's agenda=Golden Disk Award Other male and female celebrities=celebrities who attended the GDA January 15, 2013, SHINee attended the Golden Disk Award overseas in Kuala Lumpur. PHS was there too and tweeted on Jan. 16 about being with Key the night before the "next day's agenda (GDA)". Also, after Jan 16, PHS began to tweet alot about Key, even when he was not there (like photo collages of KeySeop and old photos of their coffee meeting) as if he was in love and always had Key on his mind. April 1-7 Within a week after the rumor was published, PHS deleted 2000+ tweets, including all the ones mentioning Key and selcas with Key My Input: It might have something to do with the rumor. Even if it's not about them specifically, it matched them and they may have realized that they should be more cautious. Also, much more people were probably tweeting them to ask if they were dating because of that rumor, and so they realized people were catching on. April 12 - April 23 Speculations about a rumor from Dispatch releasing a gay idol story (possibly a gay couple scandal) was prominent April 12: The rumors originated from this piece of news: http://www.instiz.net/bbs/list.php?id=pt&no=1147078 (ê²Œì´ is "gay" and ë™ì„±ì• is "homosexuality", and you can find those 2 words mentioned a lot in the comment section). Here's the netizenbuzz article: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/04/dispatch-announces-new-exclusive.html Although they didn't mention anything about a gay Idol, the article briefly claimed: "A new exclusive unlike any other to be released." And on the photo collage, you can see two male figures on each side. As can be seen from comments, many netizens with an imagination thought it was a gay couple that was going to be released (since it's "unlike any other"). April 15: When you search for "Dispatch Gay Idol" on naver, you would find "Key" in the top related searches. Many people were talking about this gay Idol rumor that Dispatch officially addressed it here: https://twitter.com/dispatchsns/status/324045911615483904 (clarifying that they have no gay idol story). Yet the speculations about the gay idol rumor continued. April 23: The "actual" story Dispatch promised was finally released, but left much to be desired: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/04/dispatch-catches-jo-in-sung-and-kim-min.html *no KeySeop interactions all of April... My Input: I wonder if the Dispatch gay Idol rumor had anything to do with it also. Even if there was no official "gay idol" story released by Dispatch, the possibility of there being one was actively discussed all of April and Key was a popular speculation from K-netizens. If Key uses the internet to look up gossip about him during April, he had to have seen it, and that would've added to him being more catious. ....but things are happening in the background... Apr 16 Key and PHS were at Mama Miya restaurant together, and PHS started to follow Key on instagram: Miya (the restaurant owner) took a photo with them and posted it on her FB (Hyosup from Etude was also there): PHS also began to follow Key on instagram and continued to like Key's photos silently: My Input: I think they went to a party hosted by Etude (since Key is holding an Etude product in the last photo), and Key brought PHS as his date there. There were many gay rumors in which netizens speculated to be Key, so that may have played a factor in them staying quiet during April. This restaurant is also located in Itaewon, near gay bars in Homo Hill. Key's choice of attire here is interesting (it reminds me of a burglar trying to be incognito while sneaking into places). PHS also started to follow Key's instagram during this time. So I think he really wanted to share photos, but had to hold back and stalked Key's instagram to see what he does first. (Because when Key finally uploaded the KeySeop photo at mama miya a month later, PHS uploaded the photo of him with Key's dog soon after). Apr. 14 & Apr. 22 Key and PHS are spotted having similar (same?) jacket and accessory: Apr. 14 Key uploads a photo of him in a park Apr 22 PHS uploads a photo of him in a park wearing very similar denim jacket, and a similar stripped shirt: And PHS was also wearing Key's "Cheap Monday" necklace that he got from London: My Input: They either have the very similar clothes/accessories, or they share clothes/accessories. May 13 9:37am (Korean time) News about the gay director announcing marriage with his gay lover was published on Korean sites. May 13 1:07pm (Korean time) Key uploads the same photo of him with PHS that Miya uploaded a month ago, and PHS liked it: bumkeyk: party in mama miya # with miya &h.s PHS liked it: May 16 PHS uploads a photo with Comme des (Key's dog) on his instagram: My Input: I'm not sure what happened. After a month and a half of no public KeySeop interactions, they both suddenly upload a photo to their instagram that shows they are still close. But it's not like anything new happened either (Key's photo was from an event that took place a month ago). And it's also odd how PHS went from tweeting nonstop about Key for 3 months, then completely stopped mentioning anything about Key for a month and a half, and then only now started to be subtle about KeySeop again after Key was the first to acknowledge KeySeop again. It was like he wanted to share his love for Key and was holding back, until Key finally gave him the clear, lol. I'm probably stretching it... However, an interesting coincidence I want to share: Key uploaded the KeySeop photo about 3.5 hours after the news about the director announcing marriage plans with his gay lover was published. A possible theory is that the news gave key confidence to bring his own relationship with hyeongseop out of hiding and back into the open as well. ...And maybe to also show support/solidarity to the news of the director being public with his gay relationship (by being public about KeySeop himself). Of course, this theory is pure speculation. But considering he previously hinted at gay marriage before, he probably keeps up with new regarding it. By afternoon, the news about the gay director's wedding spread around the net. And maybe Key began thinking about his own relationship with PHS, and looking through old photos. Then he decided to upload a photo where they were dining together at a restaurant in Itaewon (this restaurant is either very close to homo hill, or actually part of homo hill - the gay district of Itaewon). 3 hours is enough time for all this to happen. May 23 The Etude guy invites PHS and Key to dinner: https://twitter.com/sc1676/status/337789581317517312 My Input: Google translate of hyosup's tweet to PHS: "I mean we go again. In this schedule the day you and not combining Bum ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ Let Summer Dinner ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹" It sounds like he's inviting PHS for dinner, and he mentioned something about a day both him and Kibum's schedule were not busy. If so, it's interesting that he invited PHS together with Key as a couple. May 28 PHS uploads a photo of him and Key Miya uploaded this to her FB. May 31 PHS was in Daegu https://twitter.com/sc1676/status/340629572016029696 That photo was taken at an event in Daegu June 6 Key was spotted in Daegu [FANACC] 130606 Key was spotted at an emart in Daegu, with his cap pulled down low, eating spicy rice cakes.Source: 丈æ¯å¨˜çš„golden钥匙Trans by squishyjinki [PIC] 130606 Key in Daegu. cr: xoxo_8823 [PIC] 130606 Key at Daegu #2 (cr: å»–æ´‹æš, v: kimchi_key) My Input: It's very likely that PHS is still in Daegu on this day since his brother posted on FB that he was on a flight to Daegu on June 5. And it would be odd for PHS to leave Daegu just as his brother was arriving, since he is already there. June 12 Photos released of Key and PHS shopping http://blog.naver.com/bridgeeleven/50173292822 June 14 Hyeongseop posts a new photo of Key and him shopping http://instagram.com/p/aiAaxYCWSf/ http://instagram.com/p/aiBwRmiWTO/ For future updates to the KeySeop timeline, visit this thread: http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/7622-the-keyseop-thread-3/page-2&do=findComment&comment=442894 Edited June 22, 2013 by kremlindust 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0neanias 13,516 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 You should be a freaking detective. I'm not saying there isn't enough doubt to deny it, but if they are together (and that's still a big if), it's a pretty plausible sequence of events. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channeler 245 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 i was about to say something and then i saw your username and was like, 'that explains everything' lol not to be mean but its just how i reacted I LOLed at this post xD You're like some super intelligent government secret agent or something. Do you wanna join my night hunter squad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'm not trying to argue or anything, but I continue to see this rumor being used as evidence for KeySeop. Don't you think that the rumor would've mentioned that they were both male? That's kind of an important detail, you know. It could've been anyone else. It could've been Hyeongseop or another model with a girl group member. Also, I think that if they were to mention Key, they would've said "idol member" like they usually do. I'm not sure if the first sentence and the second sentence are talking about the same overseas schedule, but we all know Key and Hyeongseop have known each other since they were kids, while the rumor makes it sound like they met recently...or a little while before. Also, this may not always be true, but SHINee usually share hotel rooms with each other. This rumor seems to tell about a solo singer. And I doubt PHS would go around looking at insignificant (to him) unconfirmed rumors and delete tweets because of them. Again, please don't be offended...it's just my view on this rumor Most of the other stuff about Key and Hyeongseop seem like what normal friends would do...i'll look at it thoroughly later, but for now, I haven't found any real evidence of them dating...maybe just close friends...I'm not saying them dating is not a possibility though. They definitely could be. I feel like i'm going to get minused I also am not sure if this rumor is about them because like you mentioned the rumor makes it seem like they just met recently. I do think KeySeop are together though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeys 246 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I LOLed at this post xD well it's the truth lols i was just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 These two are so sweet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir 640 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Wow, good job. Also, Hyeongseop had one of the pictures of him and Key during SFW as his Twitter icon for a few days: After a few days he changed it into a completely black image though. I think that was when he deleted all those old tweets and pictures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayame 819 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I love you so much, omfg. This is beyond perfection. Let's get married!!!!! jk I feel like each day Key, mostly, gives us more and more hints of his sexuality. I find a lot weird when someone claims he is so straight. It has gotten to the point you just can't deny it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Squirrel Princess 258 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 My Input: I'm not sure what happened. After a month and a half of no public KeySeop interactions, they both suddenly upload a photo to their instagram that shows they are still close. But it's not like anything new happened either (Key's photo was from an event that took place a month ago). And it's also odd how PHS went from tweeting nonstop about Key for 3 months, then completely stopped mentioning anything about Key for a month and a half, and then only now started to be subtle about KeySeop again after Key was the first to acknowledge KeySeop again. It was like he wanted to share his love for Key and was holding back, until Key finally gave him the clear, lol. you are amazing!! seriously. i always love reading your posts 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 KeySeop timeline Thanks for this and great job at gathering all this information. The only thing I'll have to disagree with is that it's not the first time a male idol or male celebrity says that another male celebrity is sexy or that their voice is sexy so I would not say that friends don't say that to one another because it's not entirely true. Fix that and your post will be perfect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kremlindust 714 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Thanks for all the love everyone. Wow, good job. Also, Hyeongseop had one of the pictures of him and Key during SFW as his Twitter icon for a few days: After a few days he changed it into a completely black image though. I think that was when he deleted all those old tweets and pictures. Oh, I remember that too. I'm gonna go edit that into my post now, lol. Thanks for this and great job at gathering all this information. The only thing I'll have to disagree with is that it's not the first time a male idol or male celebrity says that another male celebrity is sexy or that their voice is sexy so I would not say that friends don't say that to one another because it's not entirely true. Fix that and your post will be perfect. Yeah, I was hesitant about including that comment when I initially made it (I was just too distracted imagining PHS calling Key's voice sexy ). But I agree with you, alot of male friends say that to each other. Since I'm adding the thing that Sabine found, I'll go ahead and edit that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckJohnny 14,775 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Yeah, I was hesitant about including that comment when I initially made it (I was just too distracted imagining PHS calling Key's voice sexy ). But I agree with you, alot of male friends say that to each other. Since I'm adding the thing that Sabine found, I'll go ahead and edit that too. I hope you do more posts like that in the future We really needed something like that since this thread has been lacking discussion and activity lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovergurl 2,564 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Is he taking a pic of his tongue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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