mEeEeE 800 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, bb8__ said: I'm always amazed how some things that idols' do scream gay but yet they mean zilch to you. Anyways, the book is very lgbt even if the author isn't. Besides the peach part of the book there is also a part where Elio wishes/fantasizes about being fingered by Oliver...if i recall correctly cause i read the book a while ago...cause I'm a homo not some "artsy str8 guy" LOL It doesn’t mean zilch to me, but it’s worth looking at it at different angles. I’m not implying every guy who reads and watches it must be just an “artsy str8 guy”. If the author is straight and writes stuff like that, and the actors are (as far as we know?) straight, why is it not possible for a non-lgbt guy to read it? It’s a famous book/movie isn’t it? Spoiler Is it literary good? Does it appeal to movie/book nerds? Maybe they’re curious what the fuss is about? Maybe they want to know/are curious about gay love and sex? Be more open-minded, learn about different people? Spoiler It’s kinda like how I admittedly jumped the gun and made assumptions with the whole Taeyong Berserk thing. Even if the girls and women are objectified, apparently the male r*pe is handled much better. Plus Taeyong has shown that he respects women. If an idol wrote stuff like that, the gay speculation would be off the charts lol (I would be sus too tbh). Edit: It would be kind of sus if someone wrote stuff like that (I think it’s natural to be sus?) but as the CMBYN author (and even people like James Franco) has shown, I would not disregard the possibility of them being straight. Edited February 8, 2022 by mEeEeE 3 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, gam3 bo1 said: i personally have come to think that with cmbyn and idols recommending/reading it it sort of depends on other receipts and if they've been speculated as gay before because it's evidently something artsy straight AND gay audiences have liked, it's a popular piece of media and is appealing to both demographics in many ways. however, with your logic, you say if an idol wrote the contents of cmbyn you would be suspicious of them but if they read it then you seem to be veering more towards the idol possibly being straight rather than gay? wouldn't it be the same amount of speculation/likeliness (this wording isn't great i realise, just can't think of how to word it right now) of an idol being gay whether they read or wrote subject matter like that? or am i misinterpreting something? If an idol read a lgbt-themed book from which a famous, critically acclaimed(?) movie is based I would be 50/50. If they wrote/came up with content like CMBYB I would be more suspicious about them being lgbt, more than 50%, (but wouldn’t disregard the possibility of them being straight cause I mean, look at CMBYN’s author or James Franco). I think there’s a difference between consuming something as a book/movie nerd vs coming up with/creating lgbt content (not including gay-for-pay). It does make me go ??? to why and how a straight author would/could write a graphic lgbt book, which managed to connect with actual lgbt people. I haven’t looked into his reasons for writing such a book. Edited February 9, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mEeEeE 800 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, cold soba said: From personal experience, a close friend watched 'Moonlight' with her homophobic dad on her dad's recommendation (!!). That doesn't make either of them queer, but it shows that even homophobes can enjoy queer media. That's why movies are a bit tricky when it comes to proof. I get it with Kevin from TBZ watching Pose, which is kinda niche, but with examples like CMBYN, which is quite mainstream, not so much. In any case, I'm glad the thread is being ressurected :') It's been a slow few weeks. 6 hours ago, LostChild said: Personally I kinda understand why people are split on the movies’s debate. Because if you are someone interested in movies and especially the kind that’s loved in award ceremonies and festivals, you’re going to watch those with lgbt themes or characters regardless of your own sexuality. Films like CMBYN, Moonlight, La Vie d’Adèle, Brokeback Mountain, The Handmaiden, etc, received many awards and have been critical and commercial successes that a lot of straight people enjoyed. Iirc Key was mentioned earlier to have watched J’ai tué ma mère and personally I consider this really telling because while Xavier Dolan is a critical darling, this movie isn’t that famous, even with francophones. So I think the movies thing can be truly useful if there’s a pattern of an idol watching several lgbt movies along with consuming other lgbt related content in general or if an idol is actively searching for less-known lgbt movies. Exactly. That’s what I’ve been trying to get across but I’m not good with words. Don’t know why people are coming at me? And it seems it’s not just liberal artsy straight guys, but even homophobic fathers. Edited February 8, 2022 by mEeEeE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) The case of Mark, Taeyong and Johnny’s body. “I mean-“ Edited February 15, 2022 by mEeEeE Taeyong got hypnotised and did Mark gay panic? 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) A bit off-topic because it's not an idol or a Korean, but y'all heard about the whole Isaiah Rashad situation? He's an American rapper who has 3 2 children with women, sings about "p*ssy" and is surrounded by women in some videos. Recently two sex-tapes of him with other men were leaked. Edited February 19, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dont mind me said: Yeah this is sad, man has had a messed up childhood and a lot of problems mentally. This won't do him any good, but I am happy that there is support for him and most people don't give a shit about him being bi. For the record, you would be surprised how many rappers are bi. Unfortunately hiphop can be a homophobic place to work and live in. Yeah I really hope he's got supportive people around him and that he's doing ok. It's interesting to see if, when and how he addresses it I'm happy to see he isn't getting bombarded by hate comments though. Korea is a looong way behind if people like Jo Kwon can't even come out due to fear of backlash. Edited February 19, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Also Rapper Lil Wop recently came out as bisexual Edited February 19, 2022 by mEeEeE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) I swear there are feelings between Jaehyun and Taeyong. Recent receipt being Jaehyun’s birthday. Basically it includes Taeyong commenting on Jaehyun’s Instagram Live with “Jaehyun oppa” and “Tell me you love me”….and Jaehyun got sooo giggly and blushy, it was quite sus Here’s some snippets Edit: Aww what the heck man, why all the dislikes? It’s not even solely about Taeyong this time. I’m saying Jaehyun may not be straight. Edited February 21, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 1 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, mEeEeE said: I swear there are feelings between Jaehyun and Taeyong. Recent receipt being Jaehyun’s birthday. Basically it includes Taeyong commenting on Jaehyun’s Instagram Live with “Jaehyun oppa” and “Tell me you love me”….and Jaehyun got sooo giggly and blushy, it was quite sus Here’s some snippets Edit: Aww what the heck man, why all the dislikes? It’s not even solely about Taeyong this time. I’m saying Jaehyun may not be straight. No but why did I get negged so much? Was it for suggesting Jaehyun may not be straight? Was it because I said Taeyong and Jaehyun have feelings for each other ? Was it the receipt? Edited February 21, 2022 by mEeEeE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) On 2/21/2022 at 4:42 PM, joonsoulie said: YES And why is that such an impossibility?? I’m taking into account everything from pre-debut and there are many moments that are…hard to explain. Moments where the other members’ reactions are suspicious. The energy/tension when they’re together. Those who know know what I’m talking about. All I’m suggesting is feelings, not that anything has occurred beyond that. I swear guys and girls just have to be seen next to each other for people to make speculations EDIT: And what I mean by “Moments where the other members’ reactions are suspicious” is a group of friends teasing/laughing or get suspiciously quiet when two friends who they know have a crush on each other interact. Edited February 22, 2022 by mEeEeE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) On 2/22/2022 at 1:07 AM, irima said: Personally, I believe that Jaehyun is not straight but you can't base your opinion on the way he interacts with Taeyong. I find it so odd that a lot of people still take sm ships seriously. If you want to understand where I'm coming from, check the way Jaehyun interacts with Jungwoo, Doyoung and Johnny. It's all fan service. And I guess that's why you got negs too On 2/22/2022 at 4:35 AM, winaevis said: Not saying that Jaehyun o Taeyong are straight but you shouldn’t use a ship as ''proof'' that they are lgbt, that whole ''tension'' it’s always just a glance and nothing serious. You can find a thousand videos of different ships talking about tension and jealous and they’re the same thing. You should know that there is a lot of fanservice in kpop and Jaehyun acts the same with Jungwoo for example. Even if they have feelings for each other it’s not like they would show it in front of everybody I'm not using their relationship as absolute proof that they’re in the LGBT brigade. It's just that their relationship is very interesting...it's different and has a possibility of being lgbt. Spoiler Naw what the fawwwk. Please Taeyong ending the whole love confession at the end with “brother” takes me out. And how is Jaehyun’s blushing and giggling fake?? How can one even fake that?? Nah this a “different and cute love”, which I’ll refer to at the end of this post. Have we forgotten we’re looking at human beings, with feelings? Passing off the Taeyong-Jaehyun birthday interaction as merely “fanservice” is naively disregarding it’s humanity and realness. Taeyong is so genuine in a very pure way, he didn’t write all that because SM told him to or as a sarcastic joke (maybe other than Jaehyun Oppa but who knows cause it’s Taeyong). Even “they’re not gay they’re just very good friends/or they see each other as family” would’ve been better explanations than fanservice. Spoiler Though I don’t know about family members who flash their chest to make the other’s heart flutter…or talk about seeing their brother naked so many times that see-through means nothing? Lol what does it have to mean Taeyong? Spoiler “That whole “tension” it’s always just a glance and nothing serious” Yes this may be the case for many people/Kpop fans talking about “tension”, but you can’t automatically assume that applies to every situation. For eg. 11:45 A comment saying “There’s always this energy/tension when Taeyong and Jaehyun come/are together” with 455 Likes The replies underneath it say “And Taeyong always mentions Jaehyun’s naked body djejrjr” ”Please the members were ECSTATIC when they did the game, everyone ships Jaeyong”. “Whenever the appeared together, other members behaved as is they know something”. “I know right? Suddenly they become calm, they follow what they say, even dispatch and amino ships them?!! Back when they played Goblin I didn’t here a sound”. When Jaeyong interact NCT do be like a group of friends teasing/laughing when two friends who they know have a lowkey crush on each other interact. 0:12, 2:20, 2:55 Spoiler 8:53 (Basically the members were put into groups and had to choose a movie/drama scene to act out. Jaeyong eventually chose the romantic one- Goblin. Yes the premise of them acting out the scene is fanservice but it’s about reading the energy/body language of them and others in the room. Taeyong’s body going stiff, fluttering his eyes and ears going red when Jaehyun went in to “kiss” him, plus the change in atmosphere in the room from the other scenes compared to their one?). Spoiler By having this bias of interpreting/dismissing every SM male x male idol interaction as just fanservice and delusional shipping means missing genuine stuff, cause it’s there, they’re humans after all. I’m not here to push a “my ship is real and yours is not” argument. Jaehyun’s interactions with Johnny, Jungwoo, Doyoung…yeah they could be real but I haven’t “studied” them so I don’t have firm opinions. I’m talking about putting a word to what’s going on in all the clips above and how they feel for each other. Purely as “platonic brothers” doesn’t seem to fit, nor does “best friends”, nor does “mutual admiration”. Taeyong also “babies” Jaehyun a lot which I think can be explained by them being Korean. But I mean, fans baby idols that they’re also attracted to. And why does Jaehyun get so giggly and blushy? It wasn’t always the case. Spoiler Prior to Sticker era and their “Tulip date”…when he was in his Prince era, he kind of awkwardly ignored Taeyong to the point that Jaeyong looked one-sided, like he was annoyed by Taeyong, people saw him as straight and Taeyong was the gay/bi friend in love with his straight friend. There’s a video with 1million+ views about Taeyong’s crush on Jaehyun Spoiler Their relationship is kinda weird. Not in a bad way, just complex. Like people have described them as mother-baby, hyung-dongsaeng, boyfriends To me it’s a mixture of the above + friends who are lowkey attracted to each other… (but acting on it would jeopardise other things, Korean culture ain’t exactly encouraging of acting on same-sex attraction, or maybe they don’t feel strongly about wanting to be lovers …so it stays at flirting and blushing-vibes). Spoiler “You shouldn’t use a ship as ''proof'' that they are lgbt”. I’m seeing interactions and a relationship between two men, that to me looks like there’s some level of sexual/romantic attraction between them. The company may set-up a situation for fanservice, but after that not every single detail/reaction has to be interpreted as manufactured fanservice and fake. And why does only one “ship” have to be “real”? In a group of friends, colleagues or any group really, does a person only have some level of attraction to one other person? And where does it say “ship” has to mean they are dating, hooking-up, or actively trying to get into another’s/each others’ pants? That’s not what I’m saying is happening with Jaeyong. I remember reading a comment of YouTube, “Lately I’ve seen a lot of things about how NCT members get along, I just feel that Jaehyun and Taeyong love each other in a different and cute way. For example Taeyong and Doyoung are truly best friends, and when I see Doyoung and Jaehyun, I feel mutual admiration, and so on with others. Jaeyong is different, I feel it, idk but it’s pure love.” I don't know if I would describe it as "pure love" but Taeyong and Jaehyun do love each other in a different and I suppose cute way. A lot of the fandom feels it, the other members feel it. I don’t know how to define this “different and cute love”. But I think it deserves to be put and discussed in this forum. Edited February 23, 2022 by mEeEeE 2 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) NCT127 + Ten Sexuality (not including gender) Analysis because why not. I think many many people are not 100% straight. Not just in 127 but in Kpop and also general human population. Ten: 100% gay. Jungwoo: Not sure if any attraction to women but…he gay. Taeil: Mostly straight. But you see him and Haechan in BDLI? Yeah not completely disgusted by guys. Edit: Taeil caught in 4K! https://twitter.com/jaeedimples/status/1499011970863087617?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q Johnny: Mostly straight. Might get high and kiss a dude. Likes to slap asses but who doesn’t. Doyoung: Mostly straight, and with a low sex-drive (Doyoung I’m sorry if this wrong). Didn’t mind running his hand up Taeyong’s leg in Love on the Floor choreo. Yuta: Into women and seems to be the type of free-spirited guy to not be prejudiced with transwomen. Can also see him being into non-binary people. Would flirt with guys for fun. I can sort of see him experimenting with guys? He’s tricky, I need to do more research. Mark: Straight but not as straight as a ruler. His gay panic may be driven by over-fear of his own slight same-sex feelings? Was affected by Johnny’s post bear-fight body. Edit: Mark legitimately has the hots for Johnny. https://twitter.com/jaeedimples/status/1499011970863087617?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q https://twitter.com/nctmarkarchive/status/1499034702513983488?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q Haechan: From what I’ve seen he seems straight and either likes skinship and/or is good at fanservice. Jaehyun: Bisexual- female lean? I still think he’s into women. I remember that video of him that looked like he was checking-out a girl. I think he does have some same-sex feelings and I know many people think so to. Taeyong: Lol. I can see him being into anything and everything with his, hers and theys older and younger. I know I previously said bisexual- male lean but now I’m not so sure. I’ve analysed him to death as you guys know. At this point, I’m going with Bisexual/Pansexual which I think describes him the best. Edit: hopefully I removed my previous transphobia. I’m all for being educated. Edited March 3, 2022 by mEeEeE 4 4 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, lgbtxt said: specifying that he'd be into trans women as if they're separate from the category of "women" is so transphobic pleaseee Oh dear what have I started. I totally see transwomen as women. It’s just that aren’t some people who are attracted to women prejudiced against transwomen? It shouldn’t be like that, but isn’t that a thing? I do realise how my comment comes across as transphobic, I’ll change it. Edited February 23, 2022 by mEeEeE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mEeEeE 800 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) On 2/22/2022 at 11:21 AM, winaevis said: I didn’t pay attention to the live and stuff but if i’m not wrong the moment of ''oppa'' they just put the comment and his reaction wasn’t because of that. I’m not saying the birthday interaction was fanservice tho. I mean it’s ok if you think they are real or smth like that but you’re using those kind of videos / analysis as proof when they are made by shippers who just show what they want you to see, some are made for fun and others are just delulus thinking their ship is real (this happens in all fandoms with stays you have hyunlix, with moas you have taegyu, bts the maknae line). I’ll say it again, if they have feeling for each other they wouldn’t be so obvious on camera as those videos try to show. Those kind of videos of them playing games and stuff like 98% they do and say is based on a scrip tho (right now I don’t remember who but there’s a video of an idol talking about how the scrip said who he would feel emotional in certatin moment yet he just said that he’s not emotional at all but the scrip said he should be/act). Right now I can show you this video and tell you they definitely are something more than friends because the way the act and look at each other!!! (srry but that how I understand what you’re trying to show with those videos as proof) -edit was to show the thumbnail of the video haha- On 2/22/2022 at 6:59 AM, mEeEeE said: I'm not using their relationship as absolute proof that they’re in the LGBT brigade. It's just that their relationship is very interesting...it's different and has a possibility of being lgbt. Reveal hidden contents Naw what the fawwwk. Please Taeyong ending the whole love confession at the end with “brother” takes me out. And how is Jaehyun’s blushing and giggling fake?? How can one even fake that?? Nah this a “different and cute love”, which I’ll refer to at the end of this post. Have we forgotten we’re looking at human beings, with feelings? Passing off the Taeyong-Jaehyun birthday interaction as merely “fanservice” is naively disregarding it’s humanity and realness. Taeyong is so genuine in a very pure way, he didn’t write all that because SM told him to or as a sarcastic joke (maybe other than Jaehyun Oppa but who knows cause it’s Taeyong). Even “they’re not gay they’re just very good friends/or they see each other as family” would’ve been better explanations than fanservice. Reveal hidden contents Though I don’t know about family members who flash their chest to make the other’s heart flutter…or talk about seeing their brother naked so many times that see-through means nothing? Lol what does it have to mean Taeyong? Reveal hidden contents “That whole “tension” it’s always just a glance and nothing serious” Yes this may be the case for many people/Kpop fans talking about “tension”, but you can’t automatically assume that applies to every situation. For eg. 11:45 A comment saying “There’s always this energy/tension when Taeyong and Jaehyun come/are together” with 455 Likes The replies underneath it say “And Taeyong always mentions Jaehyun’s naked body djejrjr” ”Please the members were ECSTATIC when they did the game, everyone ships Jaeyong”. “Whenever the appeared together, other members behaved as is they know something”. “I know right? Suddenly they become calm, they follow what they say, even dispatch and amino ships them?!! Back when they played Goblin I didn’t here a sound”. When Jaeyong interact NCT do be like a group of friends teasing/laughing when two friends who they know have a lowkey crush on each other interact. 0:12, 2:20, 2:55 Reveal hidden contents 8:53 (Basically the members were put into groups and had to choose a movie/drama scene to act out. Jaeyong eventually chose the romantic one- Goblin. Yes the premise of them acting out the scene is fanservice but it’s about reading the energy/body language of them and others in the room. Taeyong’s body going stiff, fluttering his eyes and ears going red when Jaehyun went in to “kiss” him, plus the change in atmosphere in the room from the other scenes compared to their one?). Reveal hidden contents By having this bias of interpreting/dismissing every SM male x male idol interaction as just fanservice and delusional shipping means missing genuine stuff, cause it’s there, they’re humans after all. I’m not here to push a “my ship is real and yours is not” argument. Jaehyun’s interactions with Johnny, Jungwoo, Doyoung…yeah they could be real but I haven’t “studied” them so I don’t have firm opinions. I’m talking about putting a word to what’s going on in all the clips above and how they feel for each other. Purely as “platonic brothers” doesn’t seem to fit, nor does “best friends”, nor does “mutual admiration”. Taeyong also “babies” Jaehyun a lot which I think can be explained by them being Korean. But I mean, fans baby idols that they’re also attracted to. And why does Jaehyun get so giggly and blushy? It wasn’t always the case. Reveal hidden contents Prior to Sticker era and their “Tulip date”…when he was in his Prince era, he kind of awkwardly ignored Taeyong to the point that Jaeyong looked one-sided, like he was annoyed by Taeyong, people saw him as straight and Taeyong was the gay/bi friend in love with his straight friend. There’s a video with 1million+ views about Taeyong’s crush on Jaehyun Reveal hidden contents Their relationship is kinda weird. Not in a bad way, just complex. Like people have described them as mother-baby, hyung-dongsaeng, boyfriends To me it’s a mixture of the above + friends who are lowkey attracted to each other… (but acting on it would jeopardise other things, Korean culture ain’t exactly encouraging of acting on same-sex attraction, or maybe they don’t feel strongly about wanting to be lovers …so it stays at flirting and blushing-vibes). Reveal hidden contents “You shouldn’t use a ship as ''proof'' that they are lgbt”. I’m seeing interactions and a relationship between two men, that to me looks like there’s some level of sexual/romantic attraction between them. The company may set-up a situation for fanservice, but after that not every single detail/reaction has to be interpreted as manufactured fanservice and fake. And why does only one “ship” have to be “real”? In a group of friends, colleagues or any group really, does a person only have some level of attraction to one other person? And where does it say “ship” has to mean they are dating, hooking-up, or actively trying to get into another’s/each others’ pants? That’s not what I’m saying is happening with Jaeyong. I remember reading a comment of YouTube, “Lately I’ve seen a lot of things about how NCT members get along, I just feel that Jaehyun and Taeyong love each other in a different and cute way. For example Taeyong and Doyoung are truly best friends, and when I see Doyoung and Jaehyun, I feel mutual admiration, and so on with others. Jaeyong is different, I feel it, idk but it’s pure love.” I don't know if I would describe it as "pure love" but Taeyong and Jaehyun do love each other in a different and I suppose cute way. A lot of the fandom feels it, the other members feel it. I don’t know how to define this “different and cute love”. But I think it deserves to be put and discussed in this forum. On 2/23/2022 at 5:06 PM, mEeEeE said: . “ You’re using those kinds of videos / analysis as proof when they are made by shippers who just show what they want you to see”. Here me out. I selected specific parts of the shipper video which I saw the original whole clip, and thought something was sus. I certainly don’t see every clip in shipper videos as proof and I never go directly to shipper videos to look at whether a ship is real. It’s just that some shipper videos contain the sus part from the original clip…and all three sus parts were in one shipper video, so I thought it was easier to post the one shipper video instead of 3 separate long videos. Like one moment was from a video of NCT127 playing the I Love You game in a VLive. I just needed to show the Taeyong + Jaehyun part (and the other members’ reaction). Have I ever posted a video of “How Jaehyun and Taeyong look at each other” as proof they are real? I think it’s because at least 95% of Kpop shipper videos and ships are bullsh*t that people are skeptical of anything that is associated with a shipper video. Also because they’re from SM and are the visuals + main stars of NCT like I get it. I mean I can go ahead and post the original videos where the clips come from but it’s obvious people on here don’t want Taeyong x Jaehyun talk so I’m not going to bother, also I’m kind of over it. And all I’m speculating is that they may have some feelings (one-sided or two-sided), not that they are going at it off-camera. Edited February 25, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) On 2/24/2022 at 12:30 AM, Tixy said: Apart from GD liking stuff on insta like "half gay" and "bottoms do it better", the only thing that comes close that I can think of is something like TBZ Kevin posting about that SNL daddy long legs sketch with a selfie of his. The sketch includes the quote "And what does daddy long legs eat? Boys, boys, boys~" lol, but it's not quite the same thing as the first example in terms of getting 100% straight (heh) to the point. You can expand it further and include idols who already seem pretty gay referencing super niche gay media on their social media, or something like Wonho's insta in general looking a Certain way lol. GD liking “half gay” and “bottoms do it better”? I wonder if Jennie knows… “Good Boy” kinda hit different now. EDIT: this is just a joke about him not telling his girlfriends that he sleeps with men behind their backs. I don’t know what the actual situation is like. Also Tao “accidentally” liked a Tao/Sehun NC-17 fanfic on Weibo Edited February 25, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) On 2/24/2022 at 8:22 AM, thegirlsrfighting said: “half gay” probably meaning bisexual. if he dates and hooks up with women but also is attracted to men and probably also hooks up with men i assume that’s what he means by that. i’m sure jennie doesn’t care if he is bisexual, he’s still attracted to her I know it probably means bisexual. What I’m wondering is whether he’s on the “down-low” and doesn’t notify his female partners of his sexuality? On 2/24/2022 at 11:46 AM, ------- said: Hide contents Im not a fan but I always wondered is liking "bottoms do it better" an agreement that 'yes I do' or 'yes I like bottoms' Lol me too Edited February 25, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) This is what I think of BTS from a non-stan casual perspective. (I mean I used to really stan them around 2017, went to their concert and camped outside the stadium to get front-row in the moshpit lol.) But then I discovered NCT in 2018 and never went back to BTS, though I’m still a casual listener. A lot of the things I’m mentioning I’ve found out from reading this thread. Anyway the most sus are Yoongi, Jimin and Taehyung. Yoongi has said some sus things lol. The lgbt shoes could be because he himself is lgbt or an ally. I don’t think he’s gay gay cause I think I’ve seen him show attraction to girls. Jimin. I need to watch that video where I think it’s Taehyung who goes “I think Jimin likes men” and Jimin goes “I don’t like you/YOU”. Cause it could be interpreted as he’s telling V he’s not into men (I don’t like you), or he likes men but doesn’t like V (I don’t like YOU, RIP Vmin). Nonetheless he generally gives off lgbt vibes to many and him flirting with men, not sure whether cause he just enjoys the attention or is genuinely attracted to them. If I was forced to bet right now I’d go bisexual/pansexual. Taehyung is sus to me because of his interest in lgbt art and media. But if it wasn’t for that he wouldn’t really be on my gaydar (but doesn’t mean he still couldn’t be lgbt). Why does he go “I think Jimin likes men” anyway? Is it cause he’s a straight teasing/mocking Jimin or he’s showing his own insecurities (closeted gay), OR he’s a confident gay openly voicing his opinions (which would be outing Jimin though)? Edited February 25, 2022 by mEeEeE Expanded on some things 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, thegirlsrfighting said: oooo what about the rest? this is interesting i love takes that arent from people who are stans yet I think the others are by and large on the straight side. Though Jhope accidentally saying “Boyfriend” instead of “Girlfriend” could be a subconscious slip lol who knows. Jin saying Brad Pitt is his fav gives straight man-crush and him joke-answering “Who’s your favourite Hollywood crush”? Also him receiving the most flowers (from boys at his boys-only school?) doesn’t necessarily mean he himself is lgbt but that boys liked him. I really don’t think Namjoon Instagram guy friends are his lovers. Also he seems to have become “woke” about lgbt issues over the years. Jungkook seems straight. And I really doubt the 97-Liners went to gay bars in Itaewon during that Covid-scandal lol. Edited February 25, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) My brief thoughts on Exo? Most sus for being lgbt: Sehun, Tao, Xuimin. I can’t see Baekhyun as 100% straight but neither as lgbt. If he was genuinely lgbt, I can’t see him being so open about showering and being naked with other members plus the stuff he’s said. I can’t see him in a romantic relationship with a guy but there may be a little sexual component idk. Edited February 26, 2022 by mEeEeE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) On 2/26/2022 at 1:41 PM, singularstigma said: Xiumin interesting! What makes you say that? I also would include Suho on the gay list Read the next post. I never really followed Exo so I don’t know a lot about Suho. On 2/26/2022 at 1:39 PM, sooa_t said: after those photos with leo, xiumin became very sus to me Edited February 27, 2022 by mEeEeE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Completely random but you know the comedy movie series “Harold and Kumar”? Well the actor who plays Kumar, Kal Penn (who’s also an academic lecturer), came out last year and revealed he’s been in a relationship with a guy for 11 years. Like wow. People (not necessarily here but you know) keep citing “femininity/androgyny/yaaasss/fruitiness in idols they think are lgbt but it’s such a narrow view. Did he ping anyone before he came out? Edited February 26, 2022 by mEeEeE 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Things that have happened in NCity : Taeil putting his head down towards Taeyong’s lap for some reason and Taeyong’s mind clearly going places. Both going “wahhh” lol. Here Taeyong asks Mark how his ass looks today (I think because Taeyong had been working on his flat ass?), and Marks replies with “it looks slap-able”, then gives a panicked-looked towards the camera. (I think in the longer version he also throws a peace sign). Here again we have Mark “no-homo” Lee with confident-gay Jungwoo straddling his lap. The dialogue and Mark avoiding eye contact with Jungwoo… Oh and this moment in SperM City Edited March 2, 2022 by mEeEeE 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEeEeE 800 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 hours ago, lgbtxt said: you really don't need to keep us in suspense, i promise. internet forums move slowly so u can post when you've formulated your complete thoughts babes Lol you’re right that comment was more for myself than for others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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