Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Chika Chika]

There was a Taiwanese BL that came out recently it's called 'Plus and minus' both the actors today have confirmed that they are dating. 

 

[Chika Chika]

5 hours ago, sureyeahiguess said:

All I have seen of this is just them reposting other stories on their instagram story to celebrate the 100th day of the show coming out, many of which state that MaxHao is "real". Unless I missed something, I don't think either of them have come out and said themselves that they are a couple. It's all been vague photos and captions which could easily just be fanservice and them capitalizing and their popularity. Until they straight up post themselves confirming that they are a couple, I would chalk it all up to fanservice.

They had several stories posted yesterday of people congratulating them on their relationship. Yeah sometimes fan service can go too far but this looks like some other level aggressive shit. From what I got from Taiwanese side of twitter is that there were several rumors of them being together for months that fans caught on.

Honestly, fans can be pretty crazy so for their own sake I hope they're not lying or just trying to play it up. If they're dating good for them. 

 

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

15 hours ago, Shaandenigma said:

I'm watching His Man and it struck me how if some of these guys got posted on this thread without the knowledge that they were gay, a lot of people would have been out here declaring half of them were just "soooooo obviously straight" lol. That's what I like about the show, there is a wide variety in personality type with Hyeon and Jeonghyeon being the most effeminate ones and even Jeonghyeon isn't that flamboyant, he's more cool and chic. There are a lot of idols that people here can not remotely imagine them not being interested in women, who act and carry themselves exactly like the guys on that show . There's even a former idol trainee on the show which hasn't been brought up here. 

It's funny how sometimes people get on their performative wokeness high horse about not judging people based on stereotypes, yet when a non-stereotypical idol gets brought up, there's no way in hell they aren't attracted to women. It's so hypocritical and clocks the people who really just don't know or engage in the queer community and don't see the breadth of the different types of queer man when it comes to personality.

Finally someone else who feels me on Jacob not being straight.

I agree with you so much on this. If all the contestants from 'His Man' would've been Kpop idols then most of them would pass off as straight. 

Eun Chan, Chan Gyu don't even come off as that gay they are pretty much similar to how most Kpop idols act. and ChangMin comes off as so straight that dude was a part of a straight dating show successfully lmao.

Only Hyeon is very expressive and feminine but Jeonghyeon gives me very Sunoo or Soobin vibes. 

Most of them would be discussed on this thread and be passed of as Bi or straight. 

 

[Chika Chika]

9 hours ago, sureyeahiguess said:

Posted about them a page or so back about how I would call their reposting of instagram stories just fanscervice. Now that they’ve both posted this, I’m halfway to buying my ticket to clowntown. Would like to get a decent translation, but if this is all still fan service they are really going full out. Usually BL couple like to keep an air of ambiguity and plausible deniability, these two seem to be saying screw that. Either they are together or they actively want everyone to think they are.

I don't even know what is going on anymore.

[Chika Chika]

1 minute ago, baekhyunee said:

who are the onlyoneof members that are speculated to be queer?

same question.

[Chika Chika]

3 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

This thread is sometimes so annoying lol, there always has to be someone that jumps in and goes, but actually...

If Eunwoo wasn't straight passing you would've probably leaned in the other direction but because he's not stereotypically gay it's twitter stan logic of 'mistranslation, their culture is different, that's not the context it's used in, (btw some if not most of those explanations are from koreans that are mostly homophobic in my pov) etc' It's not just this specific instance here, it happens routinely especially when they are not someone that is obviously gay like KEY. lmaooooo

 

I agree with you on this.

The word '자만추' is used in a romantic/dating setup as clarified by Korean people themselves so there is no arguing with that and I also very clearly heard him saying 'Namja' which means man. and both these words were sitting in the same sentence meaning he said 'Either man or woman I want to meet them naturally' but some people argue that maybe he meant just meeting as in 'general' meeting maybe as friends, co-workers but that doesn't really make sense because why would it matter how you meet a friend or a co-worker? However, what does really matter is how you meet your significant other.

What I do find interesting in this video is he used the word 'Namja' twice meaning that he did intend to use it.

The first time he said it they were too busy talking and he was not audible so repeated his sentence and didn't shy away from using 'Namja' again.

Eunwoo: Man or woman I--

Everyone: laughing and talking

Eunwoo [repeating himself]: Man or Woman I want to meet them naturally/in a natural set up.

So if Namja was a slip of the tongue he could've just omitted it the second time he said it but he didn't. So either he really meant it in a general platonic meeting kind of way or he didn't really care what people thought of it and he knows that everyone anyway is going to boil it down to a heteronormative narrative of what he really meant.

What really confuses me tho is since he is such a famous person and literally everyone acts like he is the epitome of good-looking man wouldn't it blow up and several articles written about it?

Wouldn't there be like news spreading all over Korean SNS saying 'Look what Eunwoo said in his interview that he doesn't mind dating men or women!'

Or is Korea such a heteronormative country that him saying that didn't really send off any signals to anyone because people automatically assumed that he would obviously be talking about men in a platonic way?

Wow, I never in my mind had any thoughts about Eunwoo being sus but he was so sleek and cool about it. He just said it right there in front of everyone and no one even flinched. 

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

18 hours ago, gigininenine said:

 

There's been so much content with Minsung in the last three days, I'm DIZZY!!! There's only so much fruit I can handle at once  

Can someone heterosexually explain THIS moment (03:35) in this Japanese interview where Lee Know has to describe Han's charms or smt similar, looks at him for 5 consecutive seconds and then CAN'T look at him again for some time with his ears NOTICEABLY RED kjkfddjkfdf i mean even everything preceding the moment is sus (LK gets a lil handsy........). 

Also, today they released this (09:37) where the members are like "Han is the only one who can handle Lee Know" and the latter gets actual heart eyes 

ALSO ALSO, I came across THISSSS the other day and I just----------- my hetero explanation would be that Lee Know was monitoring Han's ?????dance????? BUT the way the members around him reacted makes me think there's something gay at play 

I could link countless moments from the tour and their first vlive together from a few days ago that tragically lasted 10 minutes  but that would be going into delulu area  (as if I'm not deep in it already)

I used to talk a lot about Minsung back about a year ago but to me it all comes down to mainly Lee Know being interested in Han. I don't see the same investment that Lee Know has from Han's side.

Han only doesn't push Lee Know away he goes along with it. Maybe Han is someone who doesn't make it obvious but everytime someone discusses Minsung it's always Lee Know giving us the most.

I don't see Jisung as straight but at the same time I don't have an opinion on him either. I can't really say what he feels toward Lee Know. He is comfortable around Lee Know, that's all I can say.

 

 

[Chika Chika]

What do you guys think of Jungkook?

I haven't kept up with BTS for about a year and I really did think he was in a relationship with the tattoo artist, I just now noticed how similar his tattoos were to hers. 

At first I did see Jungkook as maybe Bi but now I'm feeling he's straight.

 

[Chika Chika]

26 minutes ago, M814 said:

I also think he is staight, just the "open-minded" kind. A year ago or so someone described him as "Gen Z straight" and I think that's a good way to put it.

Imo the dating "scandal" he had was very much a real thing, and in fact it's the most convincing dating rumor from all the ones BTS members were involved in.

If we exclude the multiple ships he's a part of (which I think are just fanservice - at least on his end) , I haven't seen anything particularly sus from him, personally. 

Unless somebody has some receipts?

The one thing I do remember is him finding RM very cool in the very beginning when they were not that famous and he was probably around like 15 and I do remember him admitting to writing fanfics of him and RM but that was a very long time ago.

Also, him being open-minded and the 'Gen Z straight' is an applicable term to use. The dating scandal was most believable tho. They have like around 4 similar tattoos and somehow some fans came up with her being in a relationship/married which I am not very sure where they got from.

I came across a video pointing out all his tattoos that are similar to her and also how her insta had several designs that she drew on paper and those same designs were on him as a tattoo but most comments were 'Stop shipping him with her she is literally married' 

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[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, Taecoholic said:

Where he did say that?

Long ago he admitted that he used to write fanatics of him and RM on the Korean version of Wattpad. It's called '씀'.

It was a very big thing in the fandom during 2017.

I tried googling it and I still see some fans talking about it but we don't know where it started from. I remember it being a Vlive but I can't find it.

 

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[Chika Chika]

14 minutes ago, SingulariV said:

He never said he wrote on Ssem about RM though? Fandom just created that element. It was a fancafe chat from 2019.

https://twitter.com/gcfalexx/status/1087085993860034560?t=ZMfCmd52XVx4D65Erqgubw&s=19

He was probably the one who retweeted (platonic) RM fanart by accident from the BTS a/c though lol

Yes maybe then I got it mixed up. I used to follow BTS back in 2016 to 2019 and honestly I do remember him saying that he joined the company for RM because he thought RM was cool even though he got lots of offers to join bigger companies. Weirdly enough I just came across a YouTube video today where Jungkook goes 'Can I kiss you on the forehead again?' To Namjoon but honestly I don't know maybe it's just admiration he had for Namjoon.

I don't know what to think of Jungkook.

I don't think anyone in BTS have anything going on in between them. They are just super comfortable with each other and have known each other for a very long time.

In BTS I think Jungkook, Jin and RM are the people who might fly under the radar. Obviously we can't tell for sure.

 

 

[Chika Chika]

4 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

He did get a lot of her designs, that's true, but she had tattoed several of the designs they shared on others as well (idols and commoners). I can't remember the details right now but there was an instance of someone else having the same or a very similar tattoo to the ones JK and MJ shared for almost every single one, there was only one (maybe two) that only they had. She alone also shared a lot of tattoos with other people that weren't JK regardless, so it seems like something she just did. 

I don't really have an opinion on whether they were dating or not anymore, but i used to and them sharing tattoos is not really a good proof for them having been a thing considering the circumstances. There are other things that were more sus imo. 

Wait. What were the more sus things you felt? 

[Chika Chika]

15 minutes ago, oh my dora said:

y’all apparently haruto from treasure said a man and a man doing a romcom is weird

and then tried to backtrack by saying i didn’t say i don’t like it as long as it doesn’t cross the line

but i know damn well if i search further about it on twitter, their fans have probably covered everything with excuses and mental gymnastics

especially when people who have said they’re korean speakers and even with a translator, he said what he said

and this is the same group where two members actually kissed lmao

 

Accusing this innocent child. LMAO what?

Went on Twitter and saw a huge bunch of people just saying 'It's wrong translation' and that he was talking about ships and how he felt it was weird and people cross the line with ships. 

He very clearly said 'man and man being together is weird but it's not weird as long as they don't cross the line.'

So what is exactly crossing the line for him?

Like if two men hold hands it's okay but if they kiss then that's crossing the line?

His fans are defending him but the fact that even the other members had to stop him and shut him down kinda speaks for itself. LMAO even they knew he was talking shit.

[Chika Chika]

If anyone is keeping up with that Korean dating show His. I really am starting to feel frustrated with people just picking one guy. I think he is either getting picked by most either because he is openly a top or because he is very good-looking. 

It seems to be going nowhere also the episodes have been cut short by at least 20 minutes because people in Korea really did not want it to be that long so now we only get like 40 minutes and some parts don't make sense cause they cut out a lot. Also weirdly the guy Changmin who is getting picked by everyone doesn't even seem interested in anyone. 

 

[Chika Chika]

I agree with everyone saying Ni-Ki's mom is weird. I watched I-land and used to check up on Twitter/Insta and Tumblr regarding what people thought of all the contestants. I was very invested in the show and Ni-ki's mom was the one to tell people to not spread pictures of her son when he was young. I mean most of his pictures were already on the internet for everyone to see. I feel like she very closely monitored his image. She looks like a controlling parent. So whatever Ni-ki was wearing, doing was most probably under his mothers watch.

Either his mother allowed him to express himself or that she pushed Niki to go in the direction that she wanted. So I agree when someone said he was a very sheltered kid and his mom is a very stage mom pushing Ni-Ki to do things and since he was a kid he just went along with it. 

There were several instances that Ni-Ki had a few controversies even on I-land that I felt contributed to what he was taught or drilled into his head as a child.  When I used watch the show the general audience didn't warm upto him and outright said they would not support the group if he was in it. The way Niki used to act back then when he was with his mom is very different to how he behaves now and both these images are being pushed by a force that stands behind him first his mom and now the company. 

He looked very conflicted on the show and had these battles in his head about wanting to do the right thing for himself or for the team. 

Niki reminds me of Michael Jackson or Maddie Ziegler where they had no choice but to listen to their parents and go along with what they said. I think Niki is till very young to realize it's happening to him and that makes it difficult to read or analyze him in a way we do to Jay or Jake. Niki and Sunghoon in that way are similar that they had to be performers at a very young age.

 

 

 

[Chika Chika]

On 8/20/2022 at 7:06 PM, oh my dora said:

not that i’d take any of this seriously, but this video is things sasaengs apparently said about different groups and when it got to ateez it says “if you look closely, there are lgbtq members in the group”

some of the other things said about groups in this video just sound like stating the obvious though

worth posting here anyways in case you wanted a laugh

I am not able to see what you posted.

[Chika Chika]

Sksk

Spoiler

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Chika Chika

[Chika Chika]

5 hours ago, Eremit said:

I feel like if Leo was gay he'd have had a beard over 25 at this point, surely. People have been mocking him for his penchant for dating very young girls for years and he's always a hair away from being labelled a full on creep for it. I find it hard to believe that's a front, no PR would possibly suggest that.

Plus people have been talking about him and his group of male friends drinking and partying with (young) women for ages, too. That'd be quite the commitment to a fake playboy image if it was all a front lol.

lmao yeah it's the young girlfriends that make him look weird. anyways thanks for your input. 

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, hoonhoonz said:

oh 100% agree 

for me i’ve always seen the way sunghoon teases sunoo as a projection of his own insecurities. envy is the perfect word to use, he probably envies how sunoo’s not afraid to express himself confidently while sunghoon is still holding himself back so much. it seems like he’s a little obsessed with sunoo sometimes in that sense. im so invested now i need to stick around and see how this plays out through enhypens career.. its kinda rly sad to watch him act like this, i really hope he can become more comfortable. i’m sure his figure skating background taught him this sort of discipline (?) of just holding things in but he needs to let that go fr. someone mentioned it takes like genuinely 30 minutes to see through him and that was so correct. it’s literally painful to watch because he’s sooo transparent 
 

edit @Vitymin you said he didn’t give an indication of his type right! idk what gender you meant, but i say bi because during his time as a figure skater he said his ideal type was red velvet irene. and he can’t look at pretty girls in the eye with is very funny (and telling) to me 

 

related abt sunghoons projection but TW for ED mention under the spoiler

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another user mentioned how sunghoon seems to have a lot of issues and i picked up on that too. i noticed he seems like one of those gym bro eating disorder guys who think it’s normal and healthy to have like one singular chicken breast every day, he only eats like.. protein? or something. and i noticed during their promotions when fans asked him if he ate he was always saying no. it clicked for me that he’s teasing sunoo about eating/weight bc he’s just projecting his own insecurities (again) can he please go to therapy 

 

People who grew up like the way he did really need special attention and I also feel like he doesn't realize he's doing all of this until he's made to sit down and point it out. In his mind it's all justified. Like when we do things it don't really feel bad but when someone puts it into words and says it vocally to us that's when we realize what we were doing was wrong or weird.

I mentioned this before and linked articles as well but Sunghoon grew up being involved in a sport that is considered feminine and people will ALWAYS question your sexuality and call you gay for even taking interest in the sport he was the only dude in a group of all girls, pretty sure he heard all the gay jokes from his school friends or people asking him if he was gay in a mocking way which made him go deeper into the closet and think of being feminine as a bad thing and when he looks at Sunoo being so effortlessly himself while he didn't get that same treatment when he was growing up makes him feel envious.

Famous big name skaters like Yuzuru was asked suddenly by some interviewer 'Are you gay?' and it took him by surprise even when people speak about Nathan Chen I've seen people on twitter saying 'Dude, I thought he was gay' which is fine because in the west being gay is mostly not seen as anything bad even though they can be homophobic people but it's not the same for Korea. 

[Chika Chika]

10 hours ago, K-Poppie said:

This may sound weird and correct me if I am wrong, but I feel like out of the three major East Asian countries(China, Japan, South Korea), it seems like China is the easiest/least challenging to live in as a same-sex couple compared to the other two countries, despite the homophobic laws and censorship being passed by the CCP. I have followed some gay Chinese couples online and they have openly talked about how they do not really face discrimination/hardships/challenges on the basis of their sexualities in their daily lives(of course, this depends on the person/couple and which part of China they live in). In comparison, Japan seems to be in the middle, with studies showing that most modern Japanese people do not oppose same-sex relationships, but still face challenges due to Japan ultimately being a conformist society. And as@ray20220826had previously explained, South Korea is the hardest, being a heavily conservative society, with the influence of religions like Christianity and Catholicism being prominent across the country and its’ people. Something I have found interesting is that older Chinese and Japanese people appear to have more of an ambivalent attitude towards queerness, due to their societies being heavily influenced by Confucianism, while South Korean people are more hostile due to the influence of Christianity/Catholicism. Older Chinese and Japanese people are more concerned about the continuation of their own lineages, rather than being outright opposed to same-sex relationships as a whole(asking questions to their children/offspring like “Why would you want to be in that kind of relationship? Or why would you want to be queer?” when it comes to having grandchildren and continuing their family lineages, but not completely shunning it or being completely against it). I also find it ironic that historically, many Eastern countries were accepting of homosexual relations pre-colonialism, before Western/European influence came in imposing their religions on these countries, with Western/European countries now being touted as the most progressive and accepting of LGBTQIA+ people in the present day, while Eastern countries remain largely conservative…

I agree with this because I have been on Chinese Tiktok and the amount of gay couples who are very open about their relationship and post very often. They even cross-dress without a problem. 

There is this very famous tiktoker who was always asked if he was interested in men and he didn't bother too much and didn't act like it was something out of this world just didn't comment about it too much. The straight couples of douyin are as famous as the gay couples. If you scroll long enough you'll at least come upon 3 gay couples which makes me think that they feel it's safe for them to come out and be open on that platform and post about their relationship. I tried translating the comments and never saw any discouraging comments which was honestly so nice but shocking considering the government is very stringent on making the country look very straight/anti-gay.

The general public does not hold the same beliefs as that of their government. 

[Chika Chika]

On 9/12/2022 at 1:24 PM, cold soba said:

we did it engenes

the world is healing bit by bit

 

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it just occurred to me that some random staff prolly took these separately and was like 'shit it's been a while since the last heesun, let's go post'. the exes era is not yet over

wait I'm a little confused here. what exes?

[Chika Chika]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:05 PM, only lovers left said:

i audibly gasped seeing the tweet lmao next we'll get a look at a betlift staff's photoshop skills when they post an edited pic of them together 

Why did you gasp? I am so out of the loop. What happened why would they have to photoshop them together?

 

[Chika Chika]

On 9/12/2022 at 7:09 PM, StraightforDoyeon said:

just finished backreading, a thank you to that user who posted that clip of eunwoo "admitting" he was bi 

I can't believe I almost went with my life without knowing this fact thank you 

 

wait when? 

 

this one?

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, Dont mind me said:

I will not say this often, but mee I like you ❤

Meeeee I like you too

[Chika Chika]

I went off this thread for like a month and I come back to see people speculating about tarot card readings?

How true are these tarot card readings anyway?