Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Chika Chika]

3 hours ago, sureyeahiguess said:

Soobin was a guest on a show and he told the MC that his you algorithm kept showing him videos from the MC and one other person named Seunghun, that other person is a clearly very fem gay dude. The video in the tweet was a mash up of Seunghun's videos of him being super gay and tweets from knetz calling out soobin for pretty much outing himself by saying that other youtuber kept coming up in his algorithm. Interestingly enough, the MC of that show said there was a lot that they would have to cut out of Soobin's episode, I wonder if he straight up talked about being gay lol. Here's the episode I'm referencing, the discussion in question starts at like 12 min:

 

 

Soobin felt really bold here. Like he said that he knows them for more than 10 years. dude was feeling very confident that day. One super gay member in each group of Hybe is now a need.

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, GoogleNoodles said:

If you keep up with him, are a Namjoon biased army and watch his vlives I think this guy would be familiar. He isn’t the same guy as the two others he has posted or traveled with in europe three years ago but he is a part of their friend group too. I remember him describing him and the others as his hyungs in the art world and another detail is he enlisted around 2017. 

This is a good theory but he isn’t the same guy as the others. Look at the body/hair/face. Also there are photos of him in the states with the two other guys and Joon all in a group. Joon didn’t take him to europe with the other two the first time, took him with him to america with the other two and went alone with him to Swizterland. My guess is the others are busy as he has said some of his friends are now starting to get hardworking jobs and families a while ago.

K-Media call him a music producer friend and the others are just labeled as friends. Joon always either travels to museums with this guy or the those two younger looking ones he shared clothes with in europe and america. He is a part of Joon’s friend group.

Also I do not know how old this guy is. His style makes him look kind of like a grandpa. He shouldn’t be that much older than Joon and his other friends though. It’s also been said he’s known these guys since high school but I don’t know if these are the same guys.

Sorry for the long essay. Wanted to lend some help. 

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This is a good theory but he isn’t the same guy as the others. Look at the body/hair/face.

So you're saying he is not the same because you're looking at his body/hair/face? but some people here think he is the same because they too are looking at his body/hair/face. Everyone has different ways of looking at things.

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Also there are photos of him in the states with the two other guys and Joon all in a group

Exactly what my post said previously, I'm speculating is that he is always in a group or seems to hang out in a group every now and then just to throw people off and make them not think it is sus.

Thing is most of these dudes faces are covered or the pics are not clear. We can easily mistake one for the other. I can understand why cause Joon too wants to maintain privacy. You're saying these people are just labelled as friends by the K-media. Obviously they are lmao. Korean media are historians. All dudes hanging out together are bros and roommates to them.

[Chika Chika]

12 hours ago, GoogleNoodles said:

He says himself they are a friend group constantly. There is no reason to get so upset over this. I was stating they knew the longer haired guy’s profession and not the others. Calm down. You can believe whatever you convince yourself is true. 

There are clear photos of these people’s faces fans took when he was out. He has said they are three people. You must be behind…. 

I didn't know my post came off as aggressive. Yes, he does say that they are his 'friend group' even Taehyung and Bogum called themselves friends, Bogum and Song Jongki call each other friends but did that stop people from speculating that they were probably more than friends? 

I am not arguing with you. Just that people can mistake one guy for another cause legit stans of BTS once looked at a guy on stage dancing and were like 'omg Jhope is so good at this' but the person who uploaded the video had to come forward and say 'Guys this dude is not Jhope, he looks like Jhope but he's just a backup dancer'.

I also never said that people have to believe me or I am 100% correct. On this thread no one is really correct or wrong cause we don't know anything. Namjoon could be a straight ass guy and in a relationship with a woman for the past 10 years and also married or he could be gay and dating a man. It could be anything. Obviously you're free to have your own thought process but it's just my speculation that maybe he is dating one of his friends. I don't think BTS will ever come out considering they are considered 'National Treasure' and people look up to Namjoon as the leader of that group and being gay or having a boyfriend [weather he is dating his friend or just any other guy] will create huge buzz and I'm not sure that buzz will be very positive.

We think Korea is moving forward as a nation but look at Holland legit got beaten up by a random stranger on the road for just minding his own business and Holland is not even BTS level famous. so I can only imagine the kind of image and expectation they have to stand up to. 

Like the contradictions are a lot, like people here discussing Bogum being a part of the cult but still probably being gay himself. At this point it can be anything. Like it's not too wild to guess that he is dating one of his guy friends who he seems to hang around a lot. What really is wild tho is dating rumors inbetween Jungkook and Sunghoon. Now that is some crazy shit.

9 hours ago, AstroBaby said:

if anyone is interested in guessing the guys I wrote down the details

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Namgyu's ex

-tall

-ex-member or member of a disbanded bg that was 'big back in the day' and most people Namgyu's age would know about, so probably 2nd gen at the latest

-foreign member of said group

-was a regular radio show host sometime before 2019, after no longer being involved with his group

-has mostly left the industry

Hyuncheol's ex

-wasn't popular when Hyuncheol started dating him in 2020/21 but has since had a big boost in popularity

-cute mannerisms

-really good looking (duh)

-doesn't say whether he's an idol or actor

1 of the guys at the gay bar (he doesn't give details about anyone else)

-known for his singing

-is already popular with The Gays

-cute face narrow shoulders

-obviously gay mannerisms

 

Damn... I remember another video where two korean women who worked in the industry saying that gay people in kpop are actually pretty prominent 

Also just now came across people on tiktok and twitter talking about Sunoo again being fatshamed by Niki and Sunghoon. 

 

 

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[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, AstroBaby said:

for Hyuncheol's ex I'm thinking maybe Park Solomon or DKZ Jaechan in terms of male celebs who had big increases in popularity in 2022

ayooo you're probably right. Makes sense.

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[Chika Chika]

4 hours ago, hometurf65 said:

About the nails there's his vlog in which he talked about him buying a nail art pen as a hobby too (here) so he definitely likes to play with accessories and such 

Also yes for the crop top thing it might just be that they discovered how Chan's abs are so appreciated in the community so they made his abs flashing easier

 

Thing is does anyone else in skz wear nail polish?

If he takes interest in it then it's interesting but then again these days I see lots of tiktok boys doing the nail polish and chokers. But I get where you're coming from.

[Chika Chika]

6 minutes ago, DDiddy said:

someone always ruind it Namjoon (+ Taehyung but that’s obvs) are the only really interesting bts cases that get brought up here, people have so much to say about him that I for example didn’t know of. 

Man idk where you are from but I’d see sharing clothes as a intimate act even for friends but everyone has a different opinion about that.

The recipies are interesting, they don’t sound as far off of other things I’ve heard in this trend tbh. He’s not someone who has gay rumors really so his case is just really interesting to a lot of us. I find it refreshing to discuss him here.

Why is it that at least someone is always complaining when Namjoon gets brought up? This is not the first time this happens 

+1

Like maybe to someone sharing clothes is not intimate but I never share my clothes. I view it as an intimate act. Also don't straight couples always talk about wearing their boyfriends clothes? so why can't gay couples? 

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[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

Jisung has his nails painted a lottt, Minho's had his done a few times, & Jeongin too. idk for who it was the stylists idea vs their own interest, but yea Chan isn't the only one in skz. i agree it's more of a trendy e-boy thing than anything else

I haven't kept up with stray kids but yeah even txt took to painting their nails. I guess long ago even Yuta and Johnny went to get their nails done. So it's a pretty common thing now. 

[Chika Chika]

6 hours ago, Pink_moonlight said:

Okay, i'll post a last thing for now about Namjoon's mysterious friends i notised.

*put on a tinfoil hat*

It's purely speculation and nothing serious.

As we know there is like three closes Namjoon's friend. One is long-haired man (associated with music?) and another two (one of them i supposed That man with clothes etc).

Namjoon  often is writes in "Thanks to.." in BTS' albums thanks to two his friends: Dohyun and Dongwon.

Some of his notes:

"My alter ego, Dohyun. I love Dongwon"

We all saying 'i love you' to friends and there is nothing suspicious. But. There is a new BTS' game "In the Seom" and members had to fill some notes for game, like - 'Do you have a special anniversary that you'd like to celebrate or a special date you'd like to  remember 'in the seom'? And Namjoon wrote 3 dates:  4 april (date of filling notes?), his home addres (201 - February 1st) and May 7th - his friend Dongwon birthday.

When i saw that for first time i'm like ..why we are all (armys) shoul celebrate your friend birthday?

And i saw some funny k-armys reaction - they are about to fight Dongwonf for Joon loll

*take off the tinfoil hat*

god i hope it's readable  since english is not my first language

It's readable. Thing is, back in like 2016 or 2018. Did Namjoon ever post with these friends? Cause I did see Tae post a lot with his friends and even jk had like the 97 group but people would only talk about Joon being friends with like Jackson. I remember reading somewhere that Jackson was surprised that Joon remembered his birthday.

"During the broadcast, he expressed how surprised he was when RM messaged him at 12:01 on his birthday, and he said he’d replied to RM to say, “You remembered?!” 

The article is still there if you just google Rm jackson birthday. so maybe RM is just very particular about birthdays. It does feel a little confusing as to why he would mention that guys birthday in particular. I didn't know this.

as I said it could be anything. 

but then again RM is the least speculated member of BTS along with Jin but I also feel he's interesting. 

[Chika Chika]

14 minutes ago, aiyulemonade said:

 

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A bit of a random observation - Chan and Johnny have a lot in common the more I think about it. Both are Korean diaspora who have "manlier" images (known for their muscles and willingness to show skin), but are very open-minded and seem to have no fragile masculinity to speak of. Both have also been trainees that went back and forth between countries since they were very young, 13 and 12 respectively iirc. Personally my impressions of them are similar too, both seem like chill hetero/heteroflexible guys who would make out with a bro under the right circumstances.

 

Oh yeah, they do have some things in common now that you point it out. I think just they have a very open mind. I also strongly think that someone in Stray kids is a part of the community. They all seem to be open minded. I think attended some pride events when they were in ny back in like 2017 or 2018 

[Chika Chika]

10 minutes ago, SingulariV said:

Charlie has a bit of a reputation for playing around with gay things for attention - some call it queerbaiting but idk is he fooling anybody?  so I think he's just comfy being frat boy 'gay for fun'

Like this kind of stuff 

I kinda side-eyed JK for collabing with him but apparently Charlie is just super popular in SK. 

Jungkook has such Gen Z open-minded energy but I'll be very surprised if he's LGBT+. 

I also think Harry styles queerbaits quite a bit.

 

[Chika Chika]

sorry my net is wilding

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[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, RussianRoulette said:

I wouldn’t really count that JCC video as an example of kpop boys starting to paint their nails. I think Yuta might have had his nails painted black a few times? (I don’t follow him that much so I don’t remember clearly), but I know Johnny only painted his nails for the challenge for the YouTube video and that was the first and last time he ever did it. I’ve never seen him paint his nails ever again.

Off the top of my head though I’ve noticed Ten has had his nails painted a lot (not quite sure if it was personally or for comebacks), and Ateez’s Hongjoong is probably the most well-known Kpop boy who paints his nails. Hongjoong said he paints his nails as part of a campaign to bring awareness towards violence against children and has showed off his nail polish collection a video before.

I don’t know the full story, but I know Kevin from The Boyz also use to paint his nails for fun and post about it, but I think had to stop for awhile since he was getting hate comments for it being “not masculine”. He might have started again? But I know he was really getting a lot of bad comments for willing painting his nails for fun.

Yeah forgot about Hongjoon, he's been doing it for a some time already. I think Hongjoon started even before it was a trend on tiktok. It's weird that everyone you mentioned are heavily discussed here.

Is it just me or I feel like Kevin is really bullied by the fandom a lot? I've seen him wanting leave lives because there were some really mean comments. Like Soobin and Sunoo don't have it as bad as Kevin does sometimes.

I remember he was on a live with another member and it started getting really bad so he just said 'I'll leave they don't like it' it made me feel really bad.

 

[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, lgbtxt said:

So i haven't personally seen the hate comments on vlive bcs i haven't watched a vlive, live, in ages but i'd assume they're not coming from Korean fans. Korean fans don't care about Kevin. Korean fans do care about Soobin, Sunoo, most other ppl discussed here lol.

International fans on the other hand ..... have been laser focused on & mega toxic towards Kevin since day 1. It started with people finding and poking fun at his predebut youtube videos (in which he was very blatantly gay) and this was during the like "delete it fat" "skinny legend" era ykwm so lighthearted memeing snowballed into homophobic bullying "as a joke" pretty fast. What's so weird about Kevin's bullying though is that most of it seems to come from ... queer people? He gets a lot of hate from lgbts for being gay, but in a cringe way. Makes me feel kinda bad for him to think about it. Like, he is mortifyingly cringe, that's unavoidable, but he doesn't deserve harassment on his own damn live 

 

but don't I-fans always act like they are woke and better than Korean or Asian fans in general?

You know sometimes fans just say the meanest things under the tag of a joke. Like 'I was just joking why you being so serious?' 

It's not a joke if it's hurting or offending someone. People look Kevin being funny and light-hearted so they go with the flow and cross the limits. 

[Chika Chika]

51 minutes ago, Eremit said:

did he say it's an mlm song or did he just mean the MV? cause the song is entirely nondescript in terms of pronouns and honestly the MV is obviously presenting the two as the people they sing about but in a very...bros goofing around kind of way, if that makes sense? it's not like it's explicitly romantic or sensual or anything, it's meant to look funny. I'm not accusing Charlie of making fun of gay romance either, but I feel like people are doing a lot over that video lol. I can't imagine anyone having an issue with it, really, I doubt it would even register with conservatives.

not a fan of Charlie, but I agree it's a mutually beneficial collab, JK benefits just as much as Charlie does. Fans always do the most over these things though, it's par for the course and not necessarily related to Charlie being a guy or JK being cheekily cast as the love interest, it's every time they have a collab. I think the only ones people liked were Halsey and Coldplay.

I agree with you. The song and the music video don't really put out any strong message. If he would not stress on it being mlm I would never looked at it that deep.. It's just a light hearted track to enjoy.

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I feel like people are doing a lot over that video lol.

+1 THIS

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, passthemic said:

heyyy i've been lurking on this thread for a few years now and decided to finally make an account lol...here are my opinions on enhypen and bts because why not:

enhypen:

• sunoo: obviously gay
• sunghoon: potentially an unpopular opinion but i honestly think he's bisexual but is just super repressed...he'll need 5 years, give or take, to come to terms with this
• heeseung: honestly i have no idea what goes on in this man's head fr but i think something about him is quite...Hmm. the fact that he's friends with that very flamboyantly gay tiktoker is interesting and i've never been a heesun shipper or anything but the change in his interactions with sunoo is so weird like something must really have gone down there. ik some time ago someone here posted that blog post of enhypen dynamics where OP said they think heeseung's relationship with sunoo only changed because heeseung was just acting as a mentor for sunoo and then backed off when sunoo began blossoming by himself but frankly i don't believe that. their relationship just now is sooo strange like in those 2 vlives heesun did with sunghoon, heeseung and sunoo actually seemed like really good friends in the first one then in the second one they barely even made eye contact. not to be delulu but yeah
• jungwon: unfortunately straight very aware of what the fans want and plays it up amazingly, i'm not sure we even see his "real" personality. he's a perfect idol. that moment where he talked about receiving a snack from a boy at school but stuttered and said "gwanshim" (interest) instead of "ganshik" (snack) is fascinating though. freudian slip or something more? time will tell...
• jay, jake, niki: all straight and i've never seen anything to indicate otherwise except jay being obsessed with jungwon lol but i try and look at stuff other than intra-group interactions

bts:

• yoongi: either gay or bisexual and i'm like 95% sure on this
• taehyung: even before the jennie dating stuff i'd been coming around to the idea that he's bisexual. it's possible he's maybe just a really artsy straight guy who's a big ally but idts
• jimin: okay very unpopular opinion here but i do think he's straight. i used to think he was bi but honestly i no longer see it. i really think he's just taemin 2.0
• jungkook: the biggest question mark for me nowadays. i do think he was dating that tattoo artist but i'm 50/50 on him being bi or straight, neither would surprise me
• namjoon, jin, j-hope: all straight. namjoon's extensive allyship gave me pause but i really do think he has the air of a straight guy who just wants to be educated on social issues. i've never seen anything from jin or hoseok to indicate they're into men

Very interesting to see how everyone says the same thing about Sunghoon.

[Chika Chika]

 

[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, MotorHome said:

Some people wouldn't accept idols being gay/bi/anything other than straight, even if they saw them in bed with someone of the same gender lol. 

spending quality time with the bros.

[Chika Chika]

On 7/13/2022 at 1:36 PM, oh my dora said:

glad the convo is back to ooo.

personally, i think knetz are always going to have a twinge of homophobia at things. the same way that they reacted to the merry queer. the important thing is to finally have visibility, regardless of what they think. better than pretending it doesn't exist.

i'm all for ooo and these new shows

The poster image for the country's first boy love (BL) dating reality show was revealed on Tuesday.
BL is a genre that tells relatively tame stories about close relationships between men.
The show is titled "Stranger's Love" and is described as a "bold men's honest love reality series" where men move into a stranger's house and grow feelings for each other.
"The cast members who were courageous enough to appear on the show will start to find true love through the series," said the show's production team. "Like existing dating programs, this show also has entertaining, mixed love signals that heterosexuals can sympathize with, so we would appreciate it if you could watch the first episode with an unbiased eye."
"Stranger's Love" will premiere on July 15 at 11 a.m. on local video streaming service Wavve. Two episodes will be released every Friday afterwards.

My question is mainly for you and people who watch bl. Which bl actor [Thai, Korean, Japanese, basically anyone] do you think are sus?

[Chika Chika]

Just now, cjbenny said:

I'm starting to feel that idols whose name begins with a "Tae" are casting some inadvertent dark magic on some folks that post here...

Let Taemin stay clear of this. 

[Chika Chika]

20 hours ago, geographic said:

do y'all have any BL recs for someone who has only seen semantic error? thought this would be a good place to ask

Where your eyes linger [Korean]

Your Name Engraved Herein [Taiwanese] [very sad] 

His - Koisuru Tsumori Nante Nakatta [Japanese] [It has a part two] 

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[Chika Chika]

7 hours ago, oh my dora said:

1M views, wow!

i can’t tell how korean twt users are feeling about it though bc twitter translation is so weak.

i’m still scrolling and managed to find that some of them are just complaining that the men on this show are more handsome than het ones

Everbody picked that Changmin. LMAO. Everybody simping for Changmin.

Also, I remember someone posting a youtube video where there was a guest invited and the person was gay and he was a part of a straight dating show. was it Changmin?

[Chika Chika]

2 hours ago, Anonymous007 said:

could you please expand on this if you don't mind? I heard that this couple got together with a weird timeline since one of the guys used to date a girl

I think one of the guys invited his ex girlfriend to make a video and also he's been very open about dating her in the past and if I remember correctly he said that he's bisexual.

[Chika Chika]

14 hours ago, sureyeahiguess said:

I wonder if they asked the contestants whether they were top/bottom/verse when they did casting? Maybe Changmin is the only top so he is getting all the calls?? Wouldn't it be tragic if it was 5 bottoms and 1 top. Now that would be truly representative of the gay community (in my experience). Someone should make a thread about this and Merry Queer where we can discuss. We should let this thread get back on topic.

yes this too. Changmin has been open about being a top and he gives off that energy as well. So most probably everyone picking him because they felt it too. also how to make a thread? we can make a thread about gay dating shows in general. because there might be more shows in the future.

[Chika Chika]

1 hour ago, Shaandenigma said:

I have a lot of thoughts on Bosungjun so get ready, lol.

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First want to preface and say that I believe Bosung deserves better and don't think him being bi or having dated only women previously is relevant to the red flags in their relationship. It mainly boils down to their dynamic being very imbalanced and it generally being a bad idea to monetize your relationship and turn it into your main source of income.

Bosung comes off as the more emotionally (and monetarily) invested partner. All their extravagant surprise trips and dates are planned and paid for by him. He also buys Minjun a lot of designer gifts. This wouldn't be so bad if it weren't fueled by this super glam fantasy lifestyle they are trying to lead for their followers and Bosung's lowkey insecurity in their relationship. At times it feels like he believes Minjun will drop him if he can't keep providing that sort of lifestyle to the point that he does these things even when it puts a considerable financial strain. They have over a million subscribers, but the rate thay they blow through money staying at these luxury hotels, buying designer stuff, and that giant apartment they got, I don't see how it's sustainable. 

What irks me more when watching them is how Minjun doesn't do much to offer reassurance and rarely reciprocates. He often plays on that insecurity with the pranks he comes up with, most infamously that break up one he rightfully got dragged for. Bosung will usually drop it if he even thinks Minjun is really upset with him. But in this instance, not only did he choose to fake break-up when Bosung wasn't even in the same city (visiting his homophobic family at that) to even suspect he could be on camera, he was laughing the whole time while Bosung was literally crying and begging in desperation. Then he had the nerve to seek sympathy for getting criticized for doing a fucked up thing. 

Now I don't think Minjun consciously tries to manipulate Bosung or doesn’t care about him at all. But he lacks a lot of self-awareness and comes of self-centered. I think the fact that their channel is their livelihood also drives the unhealthy dynamics because the pranks and trip vlogs rake in views and thus won. There’s a very performative aspect to their channel that you don't get from other smaller couple channels like Mango Couple and Hyungayso as examples. Those aren't perfect couples with zero issues but they come off as more authentic couples who have more maturity and better communication skills to make a marriage work. They also have qualities that balance each other out. Watching Bosungjun, I always come away feeling like Bosung has major "my first gay love" syndrome and Minjun is there to collect a check.

Bosung needs someone who can offer him the kind of assurance he needs where he doesn't make his needs subordinate to his partner's and Minjun needs someone who can call him out when he needs it. There's a power imbalance that leans in Minjun's favor and I personally don't find it enjoyable to watch or rootworthy.

That's my rambling Bosungjun rant for the day, lol.

I watch their videos every now and then, their videos are mostly prank videos or them going somewhere [just as you mentioned] I support them because of their honesty of coming out and being open to the world about their relationship, especially coming from a very narrow-minded country.

However, I do agree with you on the part where Bosung feels like he's more invested in the relationship emotionally. I'll be honest, I watch their videos for sometime and then click away because some of their videos don't really appeal to me. There are several instances where I've seen Minjun just acts straight up indifferent [pushing him away, or doesn't reciprocate the affection that he receives] to Bosung. I didn't know about the part where Bosung finances all their dates and trips. Maybe, I just didn't notice closely. I just had the impression that both of them just plan a trip and pay for it equally.

I didn't know he got dragged for pulling that break-up prank. 

Most of their content also feels very BL type. 

They've been together for a year now but overall it's a bad idea to mainly extract income from that one source and that being your relationship.

They have become the most famous korean gay couple on youtube. If what we're speculating is true then I really do hope that Bosung finds someone who loves him and appreciates his affection. I don't have anything against Minjun tho.

 

 

[Chika Chika]

15 hours ago, oh my dora said:

i’m seeing a lot of videos on my fyp of jackson partying with thai actors and each angle i’m seeing looks like he’s about to kiss some of them

Jackson always confuses me very similar to Yeonjun. He is such an extrovert that maybe he thinks kissing the bros on the lips is just normal straight behavior or he's just open to kissing anyone not caring about gender.

I really do think Jackson does not give a fuck about gender like he once mentioned about liking people who are close to him and said something about liking his manager.