Which male idols do you think are gay?

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20 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

The bit I saw was Namkook. I really hope they're not going in this direction but if they do there will probably be a bit of each pairing to keep everyone satisfied. I wonder if there were previews of other pairings as well, I remember the Jikook one came out and a lot of k-jikookers were furious at hybe and telling the op to delete because they were mixing shipping (which belongs in fandom space) with official content and I... agree? With shippers??? Maybe k-jikookers are more reasonable than international ones

Although some were mad because it proved the taekookers who say jikook is the company-endorsed ship kind of right lol

As if jikookers really needed the company to publish a Wattpad story to prove it, as if all the other stuff the company did wasn't enough lol

 

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1 hour ago, lgbtxt said:

i get ace vibes from him (as an ace person) sometimes because he often seems oblivious to his attractiveness?? like other posters have said, he's always been shy and reserved so that has to be taken into account. but idk it's just the vibes, to me he comes off as disinterested in ppl thinking he's sexy. so i think ace spectrum is a possibility but he could be anything 

 

ok tbf i haven't kept up with BTS veryy recently so idk what they're up to now. do they really do ship stuff seriously? i'm talking like all those kissing games, getting coupled up for shows, skinship, acting jealous, etc. 

you're always gonna have to expect some y/n fanservice at fansigns but it just stood out to me that outside of fansigns they never did over-the-top fanservice like other groups at the time. they didn't do bf pov videos or call fans their girlfriends or whatever. i remember them always rejecting vlive marriage proposals lmao. but maybe it's different now, maybe i'm making that up idk lol that's just my experience with BTS 

 

Yes, they do  

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20 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

Disagree, they don't do kissing games (shoutout to Yoongi refusing to play that suck and blow tissue game back in 2014) or "act jealous" unless you're already a believer in a ship. They do definitely have sus content that is intentionally included for marketing; see the rose bowl incident being used in the trailer for memories of 2019 dvd. But I don't think it's as wild as stuff other bgs do. There's always the question of how much affection is legit, but the members who were cuddly before are cuddly now (Jimin, Tae, Hoseok) and the members who weren't cuddly before are slightly moreso (Namjoon, Yoongi), but not to the degree of sitting in each others' laps. I contrast this with bg and gg members who are obviously just coworkers off camera

Sometimes I doubt whether we're watching the same things. Because yes, BTS members do all fanservice shows, including kissing each other or sitting on their laps.

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1 hour ago, KiriL said:

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Imo the reason is marketing. I don't know much about Bigbang, but from what I've seen they've never been marketed as typical flower-boy idols and toy-boyfriends for fangirls, haven't seen all their MVs but I am aware that they have had tons of girls parading there as well as love storylines with those girls, even some sex innuendos, which make them look more like western boy group than idol group and kinda 'allows' them to play under different rules comparing to typical idols. Also male fans and the group being gp darling and not relying on fanbase is the reason why they didn't need fanservice much too, especially gay one, cause boyfriend fanservise is obviously for girls and girls are also the main consumers of 'yaoi' content be it for fetishising/kink reasons, or to see themselves in couple on a place of one of boys who play 'female' role, or to think that their idol is 'occupied', or for whatever else reason. So yeah, this is why. And this is why Bangtan have been doing it, cause in this regard they are definitely very typically marketed idols. Although I also don't really understand why bighit and BTS feel the need to still do it so blatantly (like that story, be it truthful or not, of Jimin biting Kook made me raise both of my eyebrows, like, why not to just cover it with make up?...)

 

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I just want to say that the thing with mixtapes is that they are totally dependable on members' themselves, it's not the same as when in-house bighit musicmakers + musicmakers all over the world + rapline working on a song for group's album so there is help and inputs from every side 24/7. When it comes to solo work from scratch (at least in current unpromoted form) the member himself decides themes, genres, concepts, lyrics, music, beats, etc - that's hella lot of work. And to make a whole cohesive album is even more job than to do just 1 song. Yes, we still see in credits other people too, but the member is in the lead of everything anyway. And none of vocal line is even slightly at rapline's level of skills, capability and expertise in music-making and writing lyrics. The three has been constantly and successfully doing it since pre-debut, so, of course, even considering that the three are already the busiest among members with groups' music so are constantly involved in that process too (and for Hoseok on top of that all those things he's busy with and helping to when it comes to stage, dance and performances), they are still capable to do their solo projects faster. I think, bighit has a say about 'quality' of product or image (like, how they didn't allow Tae to release that gay song with Jimin), but still look at Jin releasing his fish song even tho someone in company (I think it's their choreographer, but I don't remember for sure) said that it doesn't look like a content suitable for worldwide star. Other than that everything is on members, so when they will have smth to release they will do it (just look at Tae's osts).

 

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You can't even imagine how much I agree with it! Please, Hoseok wasn't even active on sns while they were promoting PTD Like, I think he posted only once smth related to this shitty song To be completely honest it looked like the only group related schedules (aside from concerts, obviously) last year that got him actually really excited were Louis Vuitton collab and 3j performance with which he came up by himself. Honestly idk what's happening anymore with that company and their attitude towards BTS' career and music.. Has covid really changed things so much? Or is it the consequences of them going public? Or the undecided status of military thing? Anyway, I just hope that the fact that ptd flopped so hard internationally (thank's god) while My Universe did so well everywhere and became a stable gp darling will bring some braincells to that company.

 

I actually came to post this (but got stuck on checking recent pages lol)

 

'Invite someone to eat ramen' is, from my knowledge, quite common line to invite for sex in SK. In my opinion not only Jimin giggling cause he indeed got this association, but also Jungkook telling it exactly with this innuendo in mind. So what do you think it means in terms of members' sexualities? Does it mean that Kook said it cause he knows for a fact that Jin actually can invite a dude for sex? Or has Jimin laughed cause he found it funny how truthful this phrase is in terms of Jin? (If I am not mistaken Jimin also made some fake fanfic/news page/couple page about Namjin as a joke long time ago) Or did he find it funny cause of how truthful it is about Kook while he's saying it about Jin? Or does it tell smth about Kook (or Jimin) himself rather than Jin, cause it's Kook (or Jimin) who thinks 'invite for sex' line can be applied towards men? What do you think? I don't really think it's some very serious receipt, but I think it's interesting to discuss. I personally lean more to the thought that it tells smth about Jin rather than Kook.

 

I want to clear one thing up, out of the three rappers, only Hoseok didn't write lyrics or produce prior to their debut. He was just a dancer. Also, to be honest, I think he's the weakest of the three rappers in terms of songwriting.And as for the last paragraph, I think you're thinking too much. It's just a simple sex joke and Jimin laughed as he immediately understood the joke.

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13 hours ago, KiriL said:

Yeah, you might be right too, like I said it's nothing serious actually. Well, it might be rude or might be not rude, cause that's just your perception while we have no idea about their actual relationship besides what is shown on camera where they should be professional, so maybe such things, such lil 'outings', are ok between them even on cam (especially cause they know for a fact that fans would write it off as a joke anyway, just like you did right here) or, just as an example of opposite theory, Kook might have some tendency of being kinda rude towards Jin so he doesn't see anything rude in such lil slip/remark anyway (we can go even farther to another opposite and very dark theory, where Kook is a homophobe and he intentionally being rude towards Jin exactly cause he knows he's mlm). You know, as it usually is for every situation there are a lot of possibilities actually. I haven't found anything rude about it before you brought it up, cause regardless of my wish to discuss it from sexuality point of view I personally read it as a lighthearted harmless joke anyway.

Yeah, I noticed that about Jimin too, he really enjoys such things) Agree Kook was so casual and nonchalant about it, but probably it should be expected from 'what's tasty in Busan' guy lol Perhaps it was indeed just a joke, although it's still an interesting one imo. In terms of this discussion the ace example is interesting btw, there are probably could be very good physiological discussions about the matter, like what sex jokes ppl make or don't make depending on their sexual orientation, wishes, preferences and fulfillment of their sexual life.

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???? Hoseok was a famous underground dancer, yes, but when he was signed to bighit (literally around the same time as Namgi) he was supposed to be a rapper from the d1, cause at first bighit wanted to have a hip-hop group from underground rappers so he with Namgi were training for this, he legit has been freestyling with ug rappers to practice))) And he has been writing since pre-debut, Pdogg literally said that Hoseok's (along with Namgi) pre-debut melodies and songs are the only one pre-debut stuff he has saved on his PC. Hoseok even got registration in KOMCA the first out of all members and got his first credit long before debut (feature with JoKwon says hi), the first out of members as well. Hoseok literally has just lil less credits than Yoongi, btw, for few years before D-2 was dropped he actually got more than Yoongi, so I really don't know what you are talking about here.. 'Weakest' You do realize that actually out of 3 Hoseok is the most bold, unique and experimenting one in terms of genres, styles, beats and composition?... His music is hella multilayered. DJ even compared him to winners of DJ competitions where they should cohesively mix 3 genres in 1 song cause Hoseok mixed 4 (in P.O.P pt1). Hoseok is the one capable of writing the most catchiest yet gp friendly melodies and bars, there is a reason why his verses always go viral and are the most memorable ones in every song. He is nowhere near the 'weakest' he is very much on par with other 2 lmao

 

I get that you're Hoseok's solo stan but come on... Whoever thinks Hoseok is on the same level as Suga/RM when it comes to songwriting and rapping skills is a delusional.

3 hours ago, temiiro said:

Kinda offtopic ig but Harry Styles definitely did more than wear nail polish. Dresses, etc. And even before that he was extremely supportive of the community, as part of One Direction, which was the biggest boyband of the world at that time. And someone from the biggest boyband being so open and supportive and now experiencing with genderless fashion is a big thing.

Some armies would hate me for this but actually there are some parallels between him with 1D and BTS.

Difference is, Harry did confirm he's queer.

Huh? When he did confirm he's queer?

 

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15 minutes ago, miwa201 said:

Well, yeah, I know, I mentioned that. But it's precisely because he posted it in a story right after the Leslie Cheung post that people started pointing out that Jungkook is in the photo and seeing it as a hint of something, especially since it was coupled with a love song in the background. I really don't understand what he was trying to say with that story.

But fans already knew that the person in the picture was Jungkook. Something known since BE album promotions.

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9 minutes ago, mEeEeE said:

What’s the photo of swimming Jungkook? 

This picture. There is a person floating under the surfing man, that's Jungkook.

 

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11 minutes ago, SingulariV said:

Do people really see that picture as a Jungkook picture? He's a blob in the water that's not the focal point.

I mean our other options are thinking Tae basically uses Taekook to deflect attention from genuine gay chatter... That's cynical af 

Gets meta when you realise that's the Tkker plot about Jikook lol that it's PR 

Except for the shippers, no one thinks that the focus of the picture is Jungkook lol But even if we exclude Jungkook from the picture, we have to admit that Tae's posting of a man surfing in the sea and a love song together is low key remarkable, especially after his first post.

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6 hours ago, yelloww said:

Park Hyo Shin as in Wild Flower Park Hyo Shin ???

Yeah, that one. When it comes to Taehyung, always expect the unexpected.  

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1 hour ago, annetamiau said:

I know this is all really subjective, but when idols vagely show support towards the LGBT+ community in interviews, the argument is often made that they are just responding to a question and not being personal (which is fair enough). However, I don't get how one can see Jhope's comment in MAMA as impersonal, given that it was completely unmprompted and the thought resonated enough to him to say it in an award acceptance speech. 

As for expressing attraction, J-hope's face literally lit up when he saw the ripped shirtless guy that rescued Jimin's towel in Hawaii. We can't read his thoughts of course, and it might have been just platonic admiration, but if we can count a 2 second shot from behind of him leaning in to watch a perfomance (Chloe's at the AMA), I don't see why this instance shouldn't count. 

Well, at that moment, everyone in the group was admiring the man's well-built body. It's not just Hoseok. Other than this moment, we know that he also occasionally admires Jungkook's body. I guess it's considered not-gayish to have similar reactions in Korea when you meet guys with such a build because I've seen similar reactions on other shows. Also, he doesn't wear earrings as far as I can remember is because his father said that men shouldn't wear earrings. He wears earrings, but not permanent ones. As for the MAMA, we can approach it from different angles. Maybe there was one or more members in the group who come out to them and at first he had a hard time accepting it? But as he traveled the world, his perspective may have changed and he may have understood them better now. Idk maybe this explains why he and Tae's relationship has been so bad for a long time and they became close again last few years.

 

I think he's harsher than he looks. Hoseok knows how to hide his own feelings quite well when he wants to. He knows how to live the character and completely change his quirks according to it, and also can change his mood completely with the blink of an eye. And although he likes to provoke others, like if he's the one that is making the other person uncomfortable by spoiling them or touching them he'll be completely fine about it but if its someone complimenting him or putting the spotlight on him, Hoseok just doesn't know how to react. Firts, because he's partly greatly insecure about himself, but is very confident about his artistic skills. Pay attention next time you see people complimenting him, he likes it, but sometimes just won't really know what to say. And Taehyung is amazing at just loudly complimenting others and without even searching for it I can remember two or three interviews where Taehyung complimented Hoseok and the guy got flustered and didn't know what to say back. 

Hoseok probably enjoys Taehyung's charms, how he can communicate with people he doesn't know without much effort and how cute he can be. Hoseok truly likes cute things, we know that because he says it all the time, he says Taehyung and Jimin are my cute play things and stuff like that lol But secondly, because this guy is very, very controlling, loves to be in charge at all times, this is kill his ships. Giver, but not a good receiver. He has to be in control, to draw the boundaries himself. I don't know if it's because he doesn't want people to get the impression he doesn't want, or because he doesn't trust himself, or because he doesn't trust others. But when it comes to showing attention to women, I think he's more open than the other members.

 

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1 hour ago, annetamiau said:

I completely agree with your description of Jhope's personality. As for his comment about earrings, I would say that in a way he's one of the most conservative members of BTS, whis is why I think that, regardless of what his sexuality is, he's going to marry a woman. Plus, you can just tell his parents are very important to him and I don't think he would ever deviate from what is expected of a perfect son (well, besides pursuing an idol career). 

About the meaning of his words at MAMA, it could very well be about someone else in BTS, and it does fit the context of a turbulent moment for the group. Still, sometimes gay/bi people need to 'learn' that one can be attracted to the same gender, that this is a real possibility that exists for a big number of absolutely normal people, especially if they're from a conservative country and have few and negative impressions of the LGBT+ community. I'm not saying that he was not aware of the existance of gay/bi people, but that year might have been key to realizing that same-sex relationships are exactly the same as straight relationships.

As for the Camila Cabello clip, just for context he later said that he wanted to talk to her about their collab but hesitated because of the language barrier and ended up not saying anything (and it's not like there was ever a fuss about it, which would have been a completely different story had he been a maknae line member). 

Edited again cause I made a mistake: the collab was with Becky G not Camila Cabello. My bad. I blame it on lack of sleep. Ignore my last paragraph please.

I think Hoseok is someone who will marry and have a child with a woman his family will like. If there's one member in the group that I think is really traditional and conservative, it's Hoseok and, interestingly I feel like maybe Jimin too. 

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9 hours ago, Josaline said:

One of the most ridiculous theories I've ever read lol First, for someone to think that Taehyung needs a sponsor, they have to believe he is an unknown idol lmao Secondly, Andrew Oh has always been someone who likes to use idols for his own benefit and promotion. He's someone who tries to make friends with anyone he thinks is popular, from Big Bang members to Blackpink members, and shamelessly shares it.

Right? As if Taehyung would have trouble communicating with the people he wanted with his power and popularity and he needed a sponsor lol When will they realize that Tae is a world star and not a some nugu? 

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10 minutes ago, kaleidostar said:

The only thing that made me think that Taehyung might be in a relationship with Joanna and that he's a bi, was him promoting Joanna's brother's (Matthew) video. I think lots of armys that time was unaware of their connection and just thought that he was helping a "small time content creator". To me it does seemed like Taehyung just discovered him by chance but well they're actually acquainted so I guess he helped him.

But then Joanna did the follow/unfollow bts members on ig and that convinced me that they're just friends and the girl probably enjoys the  attention she's getting tbh

 

 

Tae doesn't have to be dating them to promote someone. He does this often for people he knows and is friends with. I don't even know how many times he has posted about his Wooga friends. BTS members sometimes low key promote their friends' or their families' businesses and don't prefer to talk about it unless some antis dig it up. Like in Tae's and JK's cases. Tae is just expanding his circle of friends as usual but of course we are not a part of their life and we always have our margin of error.

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1 hour ago, thegirlsrfighting said:

true, for example him being excited his friends did well in squid game and talking about it and referencing it a lot for a bit

Yeah like we knew that he had been posting about Park hyo Shin many times before but none of us knew they knew each other until they shared it  

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43 minutes ago, dododododododo said:

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This situation is definitely …interesting but I just want to point out that people sensationalize the idea of a sponsor imo. Not necessarily you OP, but I think people get very offended at the idea because they think of “special arrangements” or whatever when it’s just as likely that sponsor = rich person gives famous person money to soft-promote a business they have a stake in. 
 

sorry to go off-topic 

 

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The sponsorship thing they implied is not what you mentioned, we are all aware of that. They're trying to imply that Tae does sexual favors in exchange for connections, which is something only antis can do. Even if it's the kind of sponsorship you say, Tae doesn't need such a thing. He is An idol who is part of one of Korea's biggest companies, part of the most popular group in the world, and a world famous idol. If he needs a connection or a job, it's clear he has the resources, power, and reputation to get it. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, thegirlsrfighting said:

i didn’t mean it in an anti way. i just thought the rumors of the sponsor thing would add on to the gay speculation. i truly don’t know enough about the situation to guess but in the situation and stuff i heard it sounded weird at a point. even non sexual which is probably the case it’s probably for the same reason he is friends with joanna, connections 

Sure thing, I totally believe you.

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Wow... Some users really showed their true colors.... 

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4 hours ago, dododododododo said:

I do not support the anonymous reaction system on this website so I would like to tell you that one of those clown reacts is mine.

Ok and? Does this have to have an effect on my life in some way? Sorry for popping your bubble, but I don't really care what the antis say or do lol

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33 minutes ago, dododododododo said:

I’m glad that you’ve found enlightenment since yesterday when you were screaming crying and throwing up because of the aNtIS 

My fave said " you'd better get out of the imagination, it's not good in there ' and looks like it might be good advice for you lol

 

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1 minute ago, Dont mind me said:

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Aren't both of you adults? It is stupid to continue for pages on a debate that was unnecessary to begin with.

Tell that to the anti who thinks s/he's doing something by giving smartass answers to people. If someone is in favor of discussing such a serious gossip about Taehyung, they are anti. Period.

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21 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

It doesn't matter. Most of know that none of the bts guys have had nor needed a sponser, so it is pointless to carry on a conversation where you just debating for the sake of debating. I get your point, I really do, however wouldn't be easier to just ignore each other if you disagree? 

Ok I'll leave this topic, but as you'll see, s/he still doesn't understand our point in her/his response. But I let everyone know that I won't hesitate to go to the mods if s/he tries to bring this sponsor issue once again.

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3 hours ago, thegirlsrfighting said:

ah just search on twitter yoongi all boy school 

That's just fans' theory. Just because Yoongi went to an all-male school doesn't mean the people he was crushes with were also boys. In my country all-boys schools students, usually date girls from nearby all-girls or mixed schools students.

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3 hours ago, geographic said:

I'm out of reacts but I looved the key posts from the last day or so

I don't know how off topic this counts as...I'll delete it if it is!! - but a large amount of shawol twitter especially post minho+key ILA episode always gets sooo pressed when people say anything about key possibly being gay/bi, or even just key being sassy because it's stereotypically gay. They always revert to the "all fans ever see him as is xxx when hes actually MORE than that" and "theyre assuming his sexuality" type shit. I get the idea of not wanting to go KEY'S GAY!!! on social media since he is obviously still closeted, to an extent, unsafe in Korea, etc. But the fact that his fans get so angry and ready to defend and deny a part of his identity that he is a) so carefully blatant about and b) so proud of is honestly so upsetting to me. I feel like fandom did not used to be this way. 

Here, he's talking about his ex-girlfriends again. This is new, around 5:30

 

 

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17 minutes ago, gam3 bo1 said:

i keep seeing people on twitter using this to say he's gay (jokingly or not, i don't know), like what he does that has been seen as gay/shippy/fanservice/whatever over the years is 'for real' i guess but i didn't interpret it that way....? what's everyone's thoughts

 

I think he's trying to say that the interactions between the group members are sincere, not fake. But dude, it's hilarious that someone who has been in the most active fanservice in the group for years said this lol

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Did you know that Soeham is a ex-Big Hit trainee and has a bunch of pictures with BTS members, still friends with Jin?

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