Which male idols do you think are gay?

[raspberry84]

Because I keep seeing this brought up - If any of BTS are remotely queer I'm certain they've come out to each other. I keep seeing this being raised as a question sometimes and it's a little ridiculous considering how much they share with each other - there is absolutely no way that they'd be able to keep that particular secret after seven years, especially when the group itself is overall so lgbt positive and after Yoongi admitted several times that they're more important than family.

 

Secondly I think raspberry84 has a point re: the dates, but I'd also look out for more information instead of going by assumptions like k-armys have rn. I'm a bit sceptical of the rings because BTS often have matching jewelry, almost as if to throw people off. Taehyung and Yoongi have been wearing their lapiz lazuli rings for ages now, and apparently Namjoon has one too. 2seok have matching Cartier bracelets. Overall I'd still call G.C.F more obvious than easily mixed accessories. Perhaps we'll be able to make a better judgment looking at further dates and seeing if it matches up with suspicions.

 

I've said it before, but my money is on Yoongi and Taehyung both being queer in BTS and I do think they're both out to the group. That said, I do think Taehyung being out is relatively new. Possibly the same for Yoongi.

 

BTS has always been supportive but it's only been about the past year or so that the way they talk about it has changed such as making a point to say that romantic love includes same-sex couples, not correcting interviewers who ask if they have boyfriends/girlfriends/etc. It seems less like they're talking about inclusion in regards to their fan base and now that inclusion also involves their members imo.

 

And again, coming out can be a hard experience even if you're surrounded by supportive people. Before you even get to that stage you have to come out to yourself and realizing / accepting your gay/bi can take some time. And even then, it becomes more real when you start telling people and that can be scary.

 

The first person I ever told I was a lesbian to was my best friend who has a gay uncle and two other friends who were already out at the time and it was still scary and it took me some time to build up the confidence to tell her.

[raspberry84]

I meant how fangirls freak out when male idols interact with girls. It's not like they can go around freely talking with girls or flirting. Which is why there aren't that many things you can use to prove anything.

 

There's this one Chinese interviewer whom he was clearly flirting with. His interactions with girls on AHL. There's more instances but I can't link anything now cause I'm on mobile data. He's also had a girlfriend pre debut.

 

He also had a figurine of namie from one piece and it was a pretty sexy looking figurine. Idk if this means anything though

 

I don't think the music part is very relevant but he tends to like sexy R&B music like from Chris Brown, usher, trey songs etc

 

I never take pre-debut straight relationships seriously, especially if they're young teens at the time. It's fairly common for people who are gay men and lesbians to have heterosexual relationships in their teens. And he had several One Piece figurines if I remember correctly.

 

I'm personally on the fence with Jimin, I don't know where he falls on the spectrum but I don't think there is much evidence going in either direction.

[raspberry84]

 

we need everyone's point of view even if they're annoying. I know u probably didn't mean it or it's just a joke, but that's pretty heterophobic <<<< is that a real word? idk idc, hope you know what I mean :D

 

 

I think people are just getting frustrated with straight fans who seem to act like they know more about the queer experience then people who are actually, you know, queer. A lot of the time they either fall into one of two categories: they either think oppa isn't gay! or they fetishize their sexuality for shipping purposes. Where queer fans who post this in this or the lesbian thread tend to do so because they like the representation and it's something they can relate to.

 

An example we've seen here would be bringing up straight relationships in their early teens. Straight fans kinda hold that to a high level of proof of attraction to the opposite sex while on the flip side you have a lot of queer fans who don't put any weight on that because they've had similar experiences when it came to dating at the age. Which I get because that's not an experience they share but it rubs me the wrong way when they don't listen to people who aren't straight try to explain why that might not mean anything.

 

And heterophobic isn't a thing.

Edited January 21, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

Recently there's a rumor that confirms jimin and seulgi dating. By this video, a fansite nim said that jimin tried to cover seulgi because she wear too short outfit and by the bouquet also to block other idols to see it. I'm a little bit heartbroken by this rumor. What do you guys think? Because I still ship jikook till now.

 

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So straight fangirls are continuing to count existing in the same room as proof that a het couple is dating. Interesting.

[raspberry84]

He's still wearing the ring :(

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I don't think we'll ever know the nature of their relationship, but I really believe they loved each other so much. Platonically, romantically, whatever. I'm glad all of the members are doing better now.

 

I feel like the only way we'll ever know is if Key decides to talk about it someday (which I can see happening) but that won't be for a long time in the future. 

 

I also feel like Key hasn't really hidden what he felt for Jonghyun since his death. Continuing to wear the ring, including it in the photo of his goodbye letter, the way he's spoken about Jonghyun since make it very clear he really loved him, etc.

 

I'm still on the side that do believe they were in a relationship for the past few years and I'm personally glad to see that Key felt comfortable openly grieving and seems to be doing better because I was really worried about him during December. But at the very least the two loved each other deeply, romantically or platonically like you said.

[raspberry84]

he's moving in front of her because he has to be at the front for the final photo because bts won the daesang and daesang winners go at the front. another male idol (i can't tell who the video is too blurry) clearly moved his arm to gesture jimin should move through and so that's what he did. straight people are too much lmao 

 

I do have to assume these shippers and the people spreading this rumor are like 12, especially with the part about him having to hide her from the cameras because her outfit was skimpy. 

 

That's either 12 year olds who still don't understand adult relationships or slut-shaming adults....so I'm going with kids who will grow out of it.

 

Also....like BTS shippers who ship members can do the most to but at least most of those have more convincing "evidence" then this. (Ex. Yoongi's attraction to Jimin, the Golden Closet Tokyo Video by Jungkook, etc.)

Edited January 28, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

I believe the picture was taken in Portugal (yes, same coat as in the airport to Japan, but he's wearing it in the picture taken in the bakery in Portugal too), so before... But still. The letter with the ring on top of it was enough.

I read somewhere that it was a friendship ring that other friends of Jjong have too. Anyone knows anything? I can't remember where I read that. And after December, everything is a bit mixed up. 

I'm still worried about the four of them (and others) too...

 

The ring was definitely a birthday present to Key and matched a bracelet that Key already had (I don't think it was ever confirmed if Jonghyun had also purchased the bracelet or not) so I highly, highly doubt it was a ring he bought for multiple people. 

 

I think it's likely he bought the ring knowing Key wanted it as a birthday present and it was specifically intended for him, regardless of whether that was an act of a friend or boyfriend.

[raspberry84]

I was thinking if some idol companies would prefer having gay/bi/pan idols since no one would out them. A lot of suspected idols come from SM. It's not like they can't bury relationships between straight idols even before any rumours come out (and from what I've heard they do have connections with dispatch), but I guess they don't have to be so cautious if it's a gay relationship.

 

Honestly, I don't believe any relationship that has been "outed" by dispatch was done without permission from their company. 

 

The theory that companies would prefer gay/bi/pan idols never really made sense to me, especially when you look at it on paper. An idol who is bi or pan is just as likely to still get in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. Not to mention most idols become trainees at a very young age when they probably have no idea what their sexuality actually is.

 

Plus, having multiple queer members in a group does up the chances of someone being attracted or having feelings for someone else in their group which could cause a lot of problems for group dynamics. Especially since these are groups that live together, often sharing room and spending the majority of their time together. Even if this is only one sided it could cause a lot of problems within the group.

Edited January 28, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

I'm assuming Holland's parents know by now that he's gay, given the music video and all the press but I think it shows how brave he really is.

 

Telling your parents or family can easily be the hardest people to tell. I remember I was out for a number of years before I finally told my parents.

Edited February 4, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

 

English is my 4th language. And the only reason I learned it was because of tv. + I am shit at talking, writing, communicating with anybody.

So sorry if you misunderstood what I meant. But my grandfather does not hate gay people. He does not hate me. He is friends with this other old dude who is gay and they meet up at the shopping mall every day and talk along with other old people. He is a liberal who is religious. He believes god doesn’t, what should I say, accept homosexuality?. But he himself does accept it. He doesn’t care much tbh. He did have this “bias†tho. He believed all gay men were super feminine. And he didnt like that much. He still doesn’t tbh. But then I came out to him and, well, let’s just say he was shocked. So now he believes “most†gay men are feminine I guess. Which is an improvement. So that’s what I mean when I say he isn’t really a homophobe. Not in my opinion at least. My bar for labeling someone as that are very high.

And the voting thing. Dude. My grandfather is liberal as hell. Much more than conservative me. We often have political debates too. I actually think he is the only liberal person I have met who actualy wants to listen to the opposite side.

 

So. Edward... I still do not understand how any of your ears heard what you heard in that video. Honestly. He didn’t say anything offensive. I really think you all misunderstood. What he said about the shoving it in everyones faces, I think, is more about him not liking the whole, mentioning I am gay every five minutes thing. Or making your whole identity around the fact that you are gay. Or the I am a victim mentality.

Which of course there are “victimsâ€. In countries who is still quite conservative. And if there is shitty people around you. But in places where you have all your rights and most people are accepting of you. Then who is stopping you.

I cannot think of a single time I have been treated differently for being gay. And I have been out since I was 13. Or 12 if you count me joking about being in love with my best friend at swimming practice. And honestly it was a joke btw. I just found it incredibly funny at the time because i was joking about being gay, but I was actually gay you know. XD

Anyways. I think Edward values personality and hobby’s over who you like. And I agree. If I were to introduce myself I wouldn’t even think of saying I was gay. Because why would I. A straight person wouldn’t say they were straight when introducing themselves. What I value is personality. That’s how you get to know someone. Not through sexuality or race.

And he didn’t mean being feminine was shoving it in people’s faces. (Dude is feminine himself). He meant the people who basically only talk about their sexuality. And force acceptance on others. You will never get anyone to agree with you by taking away their free speech and telling them they will go to jail for disagreeing. That will only push them away. And worse. Becoming a conservative like me. ;)

 

Okay. So he never said being gay was offensive. NEVER. XD Oh, I find this funny. How can you lie when there literary is multiple people here who has also watched the video. Wow. And he did say it was good to have representation. (Another lie of yours.) He said if we wanted more gay people to come out we should support Holland. Because then others would feel more safe knowing they would be backed too.

 

And to the thing you said about lgbt people sitting down and stop hurting straight people with their existence. What? That is not what I meant at all. Like, honestly, do you really think that is what I meant? And do you honestly think forcing people who disagree with you to change their minds is going to work.

They may keep their thoughts to themselves but they doesn’t change. If you want to change someone’s mind it is by educating them or just simply showing them you are like any other person. I did the latter and I’m doing great in all the minds I have changed.

I’m not acting like a victim. So I am not. I chose that. The people around me tells me they used to have biases. But by me being myself I have erased a lot of them. I don’t need to talk about me being gay all of the time, and how the world is against me. Because I don’t let it be against me.

And that is what I think Edward thinks too. He doesn’t see himself as a victim, and therefore all the micro homobobia doesn’t mean anything. You can choose to want to see it or not. Same as me.

Honestly. I understand where you all are coming from when you say this and that is homophobic. But I don’t see it as something worthy to be angry over. Or offended. In ten years this small thing will be gone. And it won’t be gone because of people forcing it away. Because opinions can’t be forced away. It will be gone because of lgbt people being more common. And people knowing lgbt people and realizing they are just like any other person. No one is telling you to be quiet. So please don’t twist my words.

 

And what did you say? Shame on people who think like me? I want conversations. You want to force opinions on people.

I would rather change peoples minds with my actions rather silencing those who does not agree with me.

And I would fight for those who does not agree with me to call me faggot all they want. Same as I would fight for you to have the right to mean what you mean. Free speech. It is for everybody. The homophobes and the SJWs. I may not agree with either of you but your opinions are just as important to me.

 

And once again. My grandpa does not hate gays. He just thinks they are going to hell. He does not want them to. But he believes in the damn book ok.

 

And go to the gay thread to defend homophobic behavior? Dude. I have been here since I was 13. (Almost got brainwashed too.)

And I really don’t think I was defending homophobic behavior. I just don’t find Edwards video offensive or disgusting. I didn’t find it homophobic either. So I shared my opinion on the matter.

And my grandfather. You could say he is kind of homophobic because of his bias towards feminine gays, but honestly I don’t find it a problem at all. Because he does not force anything on to others. It’s an opinion he has and he respects everyone around him. And I guess what I was trying to say was. “Here is an actual homophobic person (kind of) and honestly, it doesn’t have to be a problem.â€

 

And the downvoting thing. I guess I feel like downvoting is more for you know the actual “you can’t say ———— is gay†people, and you know the actual homophobes. Which if you are actually actually reading this, you’ll know. I’m no self hating gay homophobe who thinks the “all gay people should burn in hell†homophobes who are actually saying real hateful things and maybe even acting on it should be heard.

I just think maybeee you shouldn’t be shutting everyone you don’t agree with down and instead have an actual conversation.

I also think that maybe you should not assume where my grandfather stands politically, or who has “internalized homophobiaâ€.

 

But hey, that’s just my opinion. ;)

I know I wrote a LOT (I don’t know how to put this under the spoiler thing), but I always feel like I have to over explain myself to not be misunderstood. Which I kind of knew I would be if I ever commented here. But well... Life as a kind of conservative gay is hard when 90% of the gays hate you for liking conversations. XD

 

 

Look, here is really not the place to be having this conversation so I'm going to keep it brief.

 

There are a lot of dangerous flaws in your thinking that do cause actual harm to people who are queer. Especially the part about queer people making it their identity, shoving it in people's faces and playing the victim.

 

People who are queer want to be accepted like everyone else. It's not considered "shoving it in people's faces" when male idols are asked what their ideal female is. It isn't "shoving it in people's faces" when they have a mv that have a heterosexual romantic storyline. It isn't "shoving it in people's faces" when straight people talk about their relationships, hold hands or kiss. It's only "shoving it in people's faces" when someone who is queer does that. The only thing different about Holland's video, for example, then it's heterosexual counterpart is the fact his love interest in the video is male and not female. That's it.

 

And there is still a whole lot of homophobia in the world, even in countries that are more progressive. I can still be fired from my job if they find out I'm a lesbian. I'm not playing the victim when I say that I have a very real fear I'll get outed to my employers one day and lose my job over it so you can kindly fuck off with this apologist attitude about homophobes and stone-age mentality that queer people should hide their sexuality and accept that people are going to treat them in a bigoted manner. 

 

Edit: I also understand that you are a teenager and your life experience is probably limited compared to others who post here but have some respect and understand the acceptance for your sexuality that you're experiencing right now? That level of acceptance was fought for by people who refused to treated as second class citizens and be persecuted for their sexuality. You have those rights because people risked their freedom, livelihoods and even lives to earn you the rights you are taking for granted right now. Your current freedoms weren't free and if people behaved the way you seem to be suggesting here you wouldn't have a fraction of rights that you have right now.

Edited February 5, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

Has no one posted this before? At 1:00:43

Yoongi, reads: 'If you were a girl, who would you go on a date with?'

I actually thought that was a pretty odd sentence. If it was, 'If you were a girl, which one of us would you choose to go on a date with?' I could've answered it back immediately. Who would I go on a date with if I were a girl?"

Jin, pointing at Yoongi: Man.

Yoongi: Yeah, I would date a man.

 

 

The only part that makes me go hmm  is Jin pointing at Yoongi and saying "Man," but I don't speak Korean so I could just be wrong...

 

Time stamp? That video is over an hour long so it's hard to know what part you're talking about.

[raspberry84]

im probably late but i just found out jungkook recommended years&years back in 2015

 

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king of supporting gay artists before i even discovered them

 

Jungkook definitely has a thing for queer musicians which I think is really telling.

 

Honestly, BTS is so confusing to me because so many of them have moments that make me side eye them but I think that is because they do have 2 or 3 members who are openly gay/bi/pan at this point and the rest are actively supportive and protective of them.

[raspberry84]

I know rationally that it would be extremely unlikely for all members of BTS to be queer but sometimes I wonder if Big Hit is just trolling us and wanted to do a social experiment to see what would happen if you put 7 queer guys in a boy group together.

 

Edit: This was meant as a joke. This is why I shouldn't attempt to be funny lol

Edited February 19, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

But that would imply they were all aware of their sexuality when they entered BigHit, and confident enough to open up about it to a company and other trainees they barely knew, and that other trainees probably got eliminated for being straight instead of not being good enough to debut as idols, and that's just messy and makes little sense tbh, esp since some members like Jimin and Tae seem to have struggled accepting themselves through the years.

Even if someone were to argue that maybe not all the members were certain of their sexuality but Bang Si Hyuk was or sth, that's a shaky argument as well.

I don't think all of them being LGBT is impossible, but i highly doubt it was done on purpose or anything.

 

I was joking. I know that's not the case.

[raspberry84]

Here are my thoughts on BTS (although like I said earlier, this group is confusing as fuck):

 

Straight:

 

Jin - I know he's debated and I get why but right now I haven't seen anything that's convinced me he isn't straight. He seems comfortable in his own skin but that's it.

 

Jimin - I use to be convinced he was bi/gay but I've settled on thinking he just wasn't comfortable in his own skin. He definitely tried to do the hyper masculine thing (which wasn't really him) but now seems comfortable being himself and softer. That said, he seems close to other speculated queer idols and there are a few moments I've raised an eyebrow at so I don't think it would take much for me to go back to thinking he's queer.

 

Queer:

 

V: I lean towards gay but possibly bi. Between Stigma, his letter to Jimin on Bon Voyage and the comments that he dealt with something last year makes me think he came to terms with his sexuality and came out to the rest of BTS in early 2017 (see Suga for more on the timing of this). Not to mention whatever his relationship with Bogum is. Oh, also him recently singing a Sam Smith song on the Bangtan Bomb (and his general love of queer artists/photographers/etc).

 

Jungkook: He's a hard one because he loves being the baby of the group, is physically affectionate with all his band members and he gets babied by the group (I mean, up until recently he routinely slept in their beds) so it's hard to read. Especially since he doesn't have that many public interactions with people outside of BTS. But looking at his Troye obsession, the video he made about his trip with Jimin and his general appreciation of queer artists I think the boy definitely ain't straight.

 

Suga: Gay. Very, very gay. The man is definitely not looking for a relationship right now and is focused on his career but I still think he's out and has been for a while now. He made a comment that gender didn't matter, gives way more specific details about what he thinks is attractive in males opposed to his stock answers about females and his recent comment about everyone being equal and love being love. Also I do think he recently bonded with V when he came out. Not that they didn't get along before but there was definitely a shift after their bon voyage "date" where they had a long talk off camera. Now they're extremely close and a part of thinks they bonded over their queer or coming out experiences.

 

???:

 

J-Hope: This man is so guarded about his real personality and emotions it's hard to get any read on him. Who the fuck knows.

 

RM: He is either the world's best ally (which would make sense if he has several openly gay bandmates) or queer himself. I'm just not sure which side he falls on.

Edited February 19, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

This is actually extremely interesting.

Everyone noticed something changed between Suga and V during BV2. Before that, Suga seemed the more distant one in a pretty neutral/friendly relationship, and now seems the most invested one in a close relationship if you see what I mean. And V looked like the one actually trying to get closer before and now seems the one to "temper" their interactions (? I don't know how to express it in english sorry).

So taking into consideration what you said, I just wonder if before BV, Suga "rejected" V in his "I'm not here for straight fanservice bs" way while V was just trying (failing) to bond with him (and dared getting close/affectionate because Suga would never think of him "like that").

But "when" V came out to him, Suga reconsidered his "straight BS" stance and gave V what he actually wanted (a bond) but then V got taken off-guard because now they both know they're attracted to the same gender and Suga does not hold back in this bonding thing, so he's wary of misintrepretations (is that even a word ?) between them.

Idk, just a thought.

 

I don't think Taehyung is holding back now, I think we're just thrown off by Yoongi being so physically affectionate with Taehyung because up until the Hawaii vacation that really wasn't the norm at all. And he's not just a little bit affectionate, Tae seems to be one of the main people Yoongi navigates towards when they're filming now.

 

The only time I've seen Taehyung thrown off is during the Run episode where Yoongi joked about feeling like he and Taehyung were a couple from a blind date show. Which, if they're both open to each other about being gay/bi, would explain why Taehyung didn't exactly know how to respond to it. Same way Yoongi seemed thrown off during the interview where they had to say what they loved about the member sitting next to them and Taehyung touched Yoongi's chin as he waited for an answer.

 

And to clarify, I don't think anything romantic is going on between them. I do personally think that Yoongi is attracted to Taehyung based on what he's said recently and how he's been responding to or acting around Taehyung but Yoong is also completely focused on his career right now and there is no way he would do anything to mess that up so I don't think it'll ever go past "Huh, he's cute."

[raspberry84]

Then,

 

1) Well, that's your option, not mine. I think everybody is free to think what they want.

 

2) I'm not telling story. Every fan knows that Jungkook really shy boy and all of the things I wrote there are facts expressed by himself and his group members. I built my option on what they said.

 

That may be your opinion but I don't know, it's coming off like a 14 year old doesn't have a sexuality and experience attractions.

 

To me, the description of him is very "awkward baby gay," The focus on the thighs, not comfortable showering around them, etc.

 

Most 14 years old boys wouldn't be uncomfortable seeing another man in boxers (and most likely a t-shirt) or stare at their thighs unless it's someone they're attracted to. It's not like RM was actually naked, he just wasn't fully dressed.

Edited March 3, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

Sadly I've even seen some gay people get mad at closeted celebrities. I saw a gay man that all closeted celebrities should be ashamed of themselves as they're throwing away a life of happiness for money and fame.

 

It's sad how he didn't realise how hypocritical he was being, in a way. He gets mad at closeted celebrities for not coming out, yet when they do come out they lose fans or "they should stop flaunting that they're gay, sexuality is private". I believe it's mainly due to the fact that he has never actually been closeted himself like so many of us have.

 

I think the problem is we live in a society where certain career choices allow some people to be open about their sexuality with little to no back lash.

 

At the same time, there are other careers that could be ruined by coming out. Not even looking at celebs but teachers are routinely fired when the school or parents find out they're gay. Even in America were people like to act like there is a ton of protection most states don't even have laws that make it illegal for firing someone for being gay.

 

But yeah...why would a celeb lie about it?

[raspberry84]

i don't wanna rain on anyone's parade, but i think most koreans probably don't know about the bi pride colors. even in western countries people generally only associate the rainbow flag with lgbt people. jhope's daydream mv was suspect since it straight up looked like the flag (same order and everything), but in instances like this where it's really just a purple and blue gradient..... sadly i don't think it means anything.

 

i've never seen this posted here so 

 

awestruck tae is the cutest! he seems to have a thing for the tall, dark and handsome actors 

 

It really doesn't matter if the majority know the meaning behind the color scheme, the question is really do the members of BTS know about the meaning. At this point I think we can confidently say they do.

 

That said, the colors alone don't mean much on their own. I'll wait to pass any judgement until we get some comments, lyrics or mvs.

[raspberry84]

In this conversation about members dating each other and if that's a good idea or not I think people are forgetting something very important. You can't control who you are attracted to or who you have a crush on. You can 100% control if you ever act on those feelings but some people act like it's as simple as having an on/off switch.

 

It's probably not unheard of for queer idols to be attracted to someone in their group. I imagine it's probably far less common for them to act on it but based on human nature you know it happens.

 

Examples:

In Shinee, you had Key and Jonghyun. I don't think anyone here doubts that Key had feelings for and was attracted to Jonghyun during the RDD/Lucifer eras. And well it was never #confirmed but I do think the two were in a relationship from 2016 until Jonghyun's passing. Especially with the way Key has been talking about him since December and the ring he continues to wear.

 

Then you have BTS. I think there are several examples within this group of times that members have had lowkey crushes or attractions to another member but never acted on those passing attractions. Current example of this would be Yoongi. Lately it does seem like he has some attraction to Taehyung. With that said, Yoongi is so focused on BTS and their career I don't think he would even consider dating anyone right now (especially not another member).

[raspberry84]

100% heterosexual interaction happening here.

 

Source

 

It's moments like this that make me crack up when people suggest yoongi is straight.

Edited April 3, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

V and Yoongi keep doing things that confirm my suspicions about them, like seriously lol nothing can convince me they're straight at this point and i just love how gay bts is as a group and how they're so comfortable being gay, no wonder they get people confused.  

 

Yeah, both of them seem past the point of giving a fuck and don't really seem to be hiding it. Not that Yoongi ever really hid it but people just overlooked him.

 

I really wonder how you suspect something that is obviously a fan service. 

 

We'll disagree on this. You might just see it as fan service and that's a valid opinion. I personally think this kinda goes past that / is different. I personally think Yoongi has a lowkey attraction/crush to Taehyung that comes out now and then but that's just my opinion.

[raspberry84]

I feel like a witch hunt to find whoever bullied Holland is going to just end badly.

 

If Holland gives names then those people should definitely be called out on their behavior but I just see it ending badly if people start speculating about who it might have been with nothing more than a graduation year to go on.

[raspberry84]

I think that teaser from BTS basically unofficially confirms Yoonkook's characters being a couple in the universe and backs up a lot of fan theories.

 

For example, the shirt in room with Suga belonged to Jungkook was a long standing theory and in the teaser they have him wearing the same/very similar shirt when he's in the room with Yoongi outside on the roof.

 

 

Also placing Jungkook in a hotel room and on the bed is fairly strong evidence that Yoongi was thinking of Jungkook in this scene and that is some pretty heavy suggestions

 

Now factor in the Highlight reel notes and Jungkook's flashback of being with Yoongi at the piano and yeah...I feel like they're not even being subtle about it anymore. I mean, it's not confirmed but there relationship at this point is heavily coded to be a romantic one.

 

Edit: Wait...I watch this on my phone and all of them having the same color hair is throwing me off. I think I mixed up Yoongi and Jungkook. Now I think Yoongi is pulling from the room. Same implications just done differently.

Edited April 5, 2018 by raspberry84

[raspberry84]

I think people insist Jungkook is straight so much is because he has a lot of fangirls who want to be with him and he's not "stereotypically" queer. Makes it easy for the straight fangirls to ignore anything that suggests he isn't straight or super masculine.

 

For example, bring up the fact that Jungkook fanboying of Troye Sivan and the straight fangirls will talk about how much he has a crush on IU. Point out he wears perfume instead of cologne and they'll post gifs of him working out or doing push ups.

 

The jury is still out for me on Jungkook's sexuality (although the past few months I've started to lean towards him being bi/gay) but it's not nearly as cut and dry like his straight fangirls like to insist.