Which male idols do you think are gay?

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55 minutes ago, .peach. said:

Sadly, since he wrote in English, it doesn't have to mean he knows him personally. He probably couldn't just write "V" out of respect, and writing mister V would be weird lmao, so he was left with "hyung".

Some armys were mad because they assumed that Holland called him "hyung" while not being intimate with Tae and a korean jornalist/influencer replied by explaining the korean hierarchy system and saying to not assume they don't know each other (or something like that. I won't be able to find the tweet right now if anyone can find it, it would be pretty helpful)

 

I mean, maybe Holland did call him hyung just because. It's possible. But I, personally,  find it somewhat unlikely...

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53 minutes ago, bb8__ said:

 

Yes, this one! Thanks!

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42 minutes ago, LostChild said:

I actually kind of agreed with OP at first. It's true that nctzens sometimes seem to only care about Ten being this "gay king" when there is so much more to talk about him. He's one of the most talented idols out there but videos about his "gay moments" have more views than his dancing compilations. And while i think it's fine to speculate about idols being LGBT in this thread or the thread about female idols because it's lowkey and there are very few chances that idols will find it, i think kpop fans should be more respectful of the idols' privacy on Instagram or Twitter for example. 
But i can't brush off the disdain that suints from OP and the users in the comments. I'm not that familiar with this reddit so maybe i'm wrong but there are probably posts about some idols personalities or some friendships between bandmates. Isn't this also assuming something about someone's private life ? Why is it seen as the absolute evil to speculate on an idol's sexuality but okay to do so about other aspects of their private life ? A lot of people assumed that BTS' Jungkook was dating this tatooist just because of a hug and i didn't see this contempt towards the people making this assumption.
Idk, what do you think ?

When people say "stop assuming *insert idol here*'s sexuality", they almost always mean "stop assuming that *insert idol here* is lgbt+"

There's this thing called heteronormativity, when heterosexuality is considered normal, the norm, and any other sexualities are considered not normal. It walks hand by hand with homophobia and we see a lot of it in kpop community.

People will say "don't assume their sexuality!!" and then the next second say "I can't wait until *male idol* get a girlfriend". It happens a lot unfortunately.

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18 minutes ago, slightly said:

BH can do the most absolute bare minimum and have people on twitter yelling about how they're our LGBT presidents or kings or whatever, but they risk none of the fallout of explicitly supporting LGBT. Naturally they keep everything so vague and apolitical because they wanna make money and stay on top, first and always, but if there is a more well-intentioned reason anywhere at the heart of it, possibly it's the idea that BTS can deliver their message of loving yourself and others in a way that will be willingly received than if they got explicit about their political stances and triggered reactionary responses from people. I don't like it in any case though. The members obviously ARE supportive of LGBT and it kinda disgusts me that they have so many fans, claiming to love them and lapping up their words like it's gospel, who would protest if they put their support up front and centre and do god knows what if a member actually came out. It's crazy how Yoongi's "everyone is equal" is the most they can say. It's crazy that they can't say things as basic as "we believe in LGBT rights" or "same-sex marriage should be legal"; statements any celebrity in the west would be widely criticised for not agreeing with

RM did confirm the Serendipity was gender neutral on purpose because love trancends genders and there was a mention of gender indentity on their UN speech (among other things, like Jungkook's "wearing anything regardless of gender"). But yeah, all of them are kinda vague and I don't expect seeing them talking about it openly and in details.

It seems that Big Hit is now extra careful with what they say, as if anything would be bad press for them. I remember when they used to swear on their own songs (it wasn't often, but it happened), play with innuendos, even release free songs about being horny... Nowadays I can't see them releasing songs like that anymore (see Tae's christmas song).

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7 hours ago, Josaline said:

Taehyung's list continues to grow every day.^^

 

Austin Mcknezie and his boyfriend^^

 

Not only the artist, but the song (lyrics) that Taehyung played itself is lgbt. Just wanted to point it out.

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I don't know about Jungkook being feminine but I'm sure he doesn't have a toxic masculinity, which is a start. Remember when he said that great style is wearing anything you want regardless of gender?

(This is probably the third time I've brought this up in a short period of time lol... don't judge me, he is my bias and as someone who is nb I was quite happy with his statement )

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18 hours ago, jung jaehyun's boyfriend said:

what do yall think about kpop idols/groups (and other celebrities) randomly being pro-gay despite never having otherwise shown support for the community? im honestly not thinking of any group in particular, but just in general, its just something ive noticed recently (ive been a kpop fan for a while now).

as a gay man i do appreciate it and id also love if my favs did it but i feel like im also old enough now to tell when its just pandering to the gay community for coin. like, i feel like idols know that a large portion of their international fanbases (specifically, their american fans) are members of the LGBTQIA2+ community or allies. and showing pro-gay sentiments has become "trendy". sometimes, their support just doesnt seem genuine and seems fake/forced.

what do u guys think?

I honestly prefer to believe that they've always suported lgbt+ rights but couldn't say it before because of backlash

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2 hours ago, one-hoe wonho said:

probably only to convey they are woke. but i think that's another discussion. 

This is completely stupid. lmaoo

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53 minutes ago, one-hoe wonho said:

at least write a constructive comment as to why you think i'm wrong. 

Do you really think they choose people based on their sexuality to feature on/write/produce their songs? It doesn't make sense at all, especially to look "woke" like you say, since most of these people stay behind the credits and aren't "hyped" like idk Ed Sheeran who wrote a song for them once (which is understandable since Ed Sheeran is a big artist).

If Big Hit wanted to look woke, they would do mediaplay about it. Or do other things to look woke in a easier way than just have lgbt artists producing and writing for BTS.

I do think Big Hit do things to look woke, just not like this. For me, this is just a coincidence.

2 hours ago, BYULTENHWALL said:

But they dont work with black producers

Also I forgot to answer this one, but yes they do.

They've worked with MNEK, Warren G, Krizz Kaliko, Wale, etc. before.

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2 hours ago, momoring said:

I'm not sure if you know this idol, but what do you think about HISTORY's Yijeong/JPearl?

 

I remember people talking about him a lot around the time he produced a song with Suga (I don't remember which... I think it was Ddaeng?)

He had posted some stuff about his "relationship" with Suga that had a lot of people's eyebrow raised... Like gifts and stuff

Eventually I think an army asked him on his stories if he was into guys (?) and he answered no

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2 hours ago, raspberry84 said:

FYI the new HYYH notes are disappointing for those of you following the yoonkook story line. Only one referenced it.

In general these notes felt weird and disjointed from previous sets 

There were new HYYH notes? I thought those stopped coming when the Love Yourself era ended

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Are we really gonna victim blame now?

The idols who are forced to fanservice (among other things) to be able to advance in their career aren't the ones to blame here. It's not their fault that they want to follow their dream career and have no choice but to go allong with these things at the cost of their career.

All of this is the industry's fault, period.

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1 hour ago, skelten said:

ur joking......

so women aren’t even allowed to speak about their own genitalia now? the misogyny from so called woke people is absolutely unreal. 

But what they said isn't wrong or misogynistic, given the context? Vaginas aren't exclusive to women, afterall trans men exist.

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What are you guys' opinion of this?

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7 hours ago, NavyBlue said:

Which idols don't give fanservice? Like they just cringe too much or uncomfortable? Like Mark and I feel like Taeyong too

Yoongi. But he does give fanservice from time to time, though...

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5 minutes ago, TataBoo said:

Would it be pushing it if I say I think there's a possibility two TXT members have romantic feelings for each other? Oh gosh, I don't want to get negged like I was for my first post. In my opinion, there's a pair that I don't think have a very platonic relationship within the group, but the feelings they have for each other are newly discovered. I can't support my speculation but their dynamic compared to debut vs now is very different. Things feel more intimate between them and I think the other member shave somewhat noticed is as well because there are some moments during group vlives that are awkward, like they're in their own world. I deleted a previous post about it, but now I truly feel like there is a mutual crush between them. I'm going to avoid saying names so I don't get pitchforked for "shipping" or whatever.

Are you talking about Soobin and Yeonjun?

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2 hours ago, taeyong's panicked scream said:

I'm sorry I feel like I should vent something out here.

Ten sais beautiful things this week, a very meaningful speech for the community. But other fandoms just went dead silent about it. I'm tired of seeing people hyping up idols who wear pride items and then when we get something that screams such importance it's like there's was nothing relevant being said. 

I'm not surprised. It's rare for fandoms to hype other groups/artists, especially if said fandoms already have a feud with said group's fandom. I doubt some even follow NCT enough to know what he said.

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14 minutes ago, Taecoholic said:

Err no? So far nobody has been able to prove that this is a lie, false or fake. Although there is news on all sites, there was no denial from Big Hit or Bang Pd.

And what is the proof that it's true? A random photo of a guy with a girl on his side? lmaooo

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7 hours ago, Lollitta said:

Taehyung is the only member that has shown genuine attraction

Yoongi has described his ideal type for men before and not in a 'fanservice' way like saying "member x is my ideal type" either. He is also the member who has tried to be the most gender ambiguous as possible when aswering questions about ideal type in general.

Speaking of Yoongi, it's weird how everyone here went from "Yoongi is definitely lgbtq+" to "Nah, I think he is straight". What happened? (Seriously asking)

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Someone already shared it here, but I just wanted to point out how important Jo Kwon's recent interview is and how I think this will be the closest we will get to an actual coming out, both by an active idol and Jo Kwon himself. I think Jo kwon is really confortable with his indentity and sexuality and don't feel the need to "come out" if he is indeed lgbtq+.

Though I do think that he could be in some spectrum  of the lgbtq+ solely because of his gender expression.

https://www.soompi.com/article/1415938wpp/2ams-jo-kwon-shares-thoughts-on-gender-mothers-reaction-to-musical-jamie-and-more

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On July 29, 2AM’s Jo Kwon sat down for an interview to talk about the musical “Jamie.”

Jo Kwon said, “‘Genderless’ has become my weapon. In the past, I was afraid of a neutral-gender image. If people said I looked like a woman, I would deny it. Now I don’t do that. If people say that I look like Choi Ji Woo or Girls’ Generation’s Taeyeon, then that’s fine. I’m able to accept myself as I am. This is my long-lasting weapon in the future genderless age.”

In the musical “Jamie,” Jo Kwon plays Jamie, a teenager who overcomes prejudice in his dream to become a drag queen. Jo Kwon said, “There are drag queens and there are drag kings. There are girlish men and there are boyish women. Men can have a lot of interest in beauty products. As the times change, I think that more people will open their minds to people like Jamie.”

Jo Kwon also talked about Bang Si Hyuk’s words of encouragement in choosing an artistic path. Recently, Jo Kwon’s 2012 song “Animal” featuring BTS’s J-Hope has garnered new attention. Jo Kwon said, “Of course, BTS had a big effect on this, but I’m glad that ‘Animal’ has gained more attention. It makes me think that our country has changed its worldview a little bit.”

Jo Kwon continued, “I think that in our country, we have to keep doing things until people get used to them. Before ‘Jesus Christ Superstar’ premiered here, I got a lot of negative comments. But as soon as it premiered, people liked my performance as Herod. I kept doing musicals and now ‘Jamie’ is my eighth project.”

In “Jamie,” Jamie’s mother Margaret plays an important role. Jo Kwon said, “My mother is a quiet but steadfast supporter. She came to see my first performance as ‘Jamie’ and her eyes got red as she watched. The first scene is sad, and when Jamie was bullied by his classmates after his transformation into a drag queen, she said that her heart hurt a lot. She said that it was like seeing me going into battle. Choi Jung Won, who plays Margaret in the musical, said that my mother was like the Korean Margaret. I ended up tearing up as well.”

Jo Kwon also talked about the other actors playing Jamie in the musical. “I think that Jamie Campbell [the real person whom the musical ‘Jamie’ was based on] is an amazing person. In the musical, Jamie opens by saying, ‘That’s right, I’m gay.’ When I’m wearing heels, I get most nervous when I have to do a high kick. I think that gossip, which is a characteristic of my job, is karma in the end, but I feel a sense of injustice when people pretend that things that didn’t happen are real. Jamie’s confidence and cool attitude is similar to myself. But Jamie is more amazing because he did it all at the age of 17. I talk about this with NU’EST’s Ren and ASTRO’s MJ, who are making their musical debut in ‘Jamie.'”

Jo Kwon also shared plans to work on a new solo album inspired by singer-songwriter Troye Sivan, as well as plans for a new album from 2AM next year.

 

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changed gender 'identity' to 'expression'

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16 minutes ago, choiminki95 said:

No shade but I'm lowkey surprised how many of yall legit think this means Jo Kwon came out as nonbinary. It's a very western take on what he said. I'm pretty sure it's another taemin situation where he is referring to embracing his androgyny. If Jo kwon was actually coming out as anything, there would have been way more articles about it in korea. Its really tone deaf how quick ifans were quick to slap a label on him and change his pronouns.

I understand where you are coming from, that's why I said "it's the closest we will get from him coming out" and "he could be in some spectrum of the lgbtq+". I don't think he came out at all, not in a strict sense anyway. (Now that I think about it, I should've written 'gender expression' rather than 'identity')

Not related but by the way: what makes someone lgbtq+ is constantly up to debate, it's a never ending discussion. Would a straight cis man, for example, who has a really conventionally feminine gender expression be considered lgbtq+? Some would say no because he is cishet, others would say yes because his expression is not what is expected from a cishet man.

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1 hour ago, babyv004 said:

the colours in heart stickers is not the ones of gay and bi flag?!

They're respetively the colours of the gay and trans flags

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1 hour ago, Melany said:

Don't be surprised when he come out with a gf now that dispatch deal with bighit is over. 

You know bisexuality is a thing right?

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17 minutes ago, Melany said:

I just don't think jungkook is gay or bi, he never showed any real attraction to men, all of his receipts are being an ally (same with namjoon )or maybe im missing smth. 

 

So? He also has barely shown any attraction to women.

Straight isn't a "default sexuality".

Also Jungkook is introverted meawhile Tae and Jimin are extroverted. He hardly would go and do the same things Jimin and sometimes Tae does when showing attraction (like checking out guys on the street or something)