Which male idols do you think are gay?

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The thing about Jaemin that really throws me off is that this guy seems really in tune with what being an idol means. His fan service is top notch and I think that includes the Jaemin/Jeno pairing. Even before getting into NCT I was aware of that pairing and it's clear to me that SM/Dream know that it's very popular. It's because of this and Jaemin's fan service towards fans that makes me think that if/when he gets into a dating scandal it will be a HUGE mess lmao. I have no clue about his sexuality though.

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10 hours ago, MJr said:

Since people were talking about how the whole "the dreamies are too young" story might be getting repetitive, here's my opinion that no one asked for: most nct dream members are honest to god just straight and that's the reason they don't ping or have receipts, not their age.

I actually have to agree. I've only recently gotten into them but I've been watching a lot of their videos and my conclusion is that Jeno and Haechan might be suspicious. Unpopular opinion, but I don't take anything Jaemin does seriously, and I especially don't take the Jeno/Jaemin pairing seriously, especially since it's obvious that SM is pushing it. 

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8 hours ago, jeong jaehyuns boyfriend said:

Queer Asians unite  No worries, I knew you were joking, and I didn't mean to turn a lighthearted conversation into an analysis. Sorry if I came off like a bit of a bitch! Jaehyun's just been on my nerves lately and I felt like reading him LOL. He STILL refuses to follow anyone on Instagram (not even his own members), he quit Animal Crossing (!) even though Taeyong gave him money, and now this. Imma fight him lmao 

Also, thanks for your thoughtful responses. I agree, I see Jungwoo in a similar category as Haechan/Jaemin. They're all somewhat queerbait-y, and they interact with the fans a lot not only because they have to, but because I think they like the attention. As a result, they're probably among the members with the most "gay panic" and "confident gay" videos and memes. The fact that they probably know these are out there and still continue to push the "gay" fanservice on us (I mean, Jungwoo asking us if we're jealous that he shares a bed with Jaehyun is the definition of queerbait fanservice lol) suggests to me that they're probably not gay, because someone closeted would typically tone it down after their sexuality becomes a topic of discussion (i.e. like Ten and Taeyong have). 

Baekhyun is a little different because although he likes being the center of attention too, he hasn't been that explicit when it comes to fanservice. I think in his case, he has a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to his own masculinity, and it manifests in being insecure around guys that are "manlier" than him (i.e. Chanyeol, Kris, Lucas; him being shorter doesn't help either lol).

I think you hit the nail on the head about Jaehyun. I do think he changes his demeanour a little depending on who he hangs out with. His dynamic with Johnny is very fratboy bro so he's a little freer around him, whereas Jungwoo is naturally very feminine, so like you said, Jaehyun's a bit more self-conscious around him. I remember during one random clip during Limitless era, Johnny was telling a story how Jaehyun likes strongly scented candles, which made it hard for Johnny to sleep (they were roommates at the time), but they had talked it out. Jaehyun ended the conversation with "we'll sleep together tonight anyway" and Johnny immediately clarified, saying something along the lines of "that sounds weird for men to say, we are sleeping on separate beds". I don't think Jaehyun was being purposefully suggestive, but he's lax talking that way around Johnny because he knows Johnny is straight af. In contrast, if you remember that vlive with Kun, Jaehyun, and Jungwoo, Jungwoo was ALL OVER Jaehyun. If it was anyone else, I don't think Jaehyun would be uncomfortable being touchy on camera, but because it was Jungwoo, Jaehyun was repeatedly moving his hands away and at one point, even asked for space.

You raise some interesting questions about Jaehyun too~ We'll never know for sure, but I do think it's a combination of what you mentioned - he performs masculinity because he was conditioned to by Korean society, and being pinned as NCT's "resident sweetheart" and "nation's first love" isn't helping.

He honestly strikes me as someone that used to be really skinny and awkward growing up, but then got good looking really fast and all of a sudden was thrust into a position where he was "cool" and handsome. So while he appears stoic on the outside, he still has the personality of someone who used to be kinda lame LOL.

Okay sorry, I'm reading him too much lol I don't hate him I swear, he's my bias lmao (I have the username to prove it!). 

And yeah, unfortunately (lol) Taeyong and Ten are the only ones in NCT that give me gay/bi teas. Not counting Lucas's narcissistic ass lol

Not to just randomly butt in but I wanted to say that I can see where you're coming from with Jungwoo. I follow Dream more than 127 and to me Jaemin doesn't come off as gay or bi. I already mentioned this before but he's very attuned to his idol persona at all times, and that includes fan service as well, whether it is to fans or to other members. He and SM are very aware that the Jeno/Jaemin pairing is very popular (I think they have the second most fanfics on ao3, after Mark/Haechan) and so they continue pushing it, which can be quite obnoxious at times lmao. But I don't really see anything in it beyond fan service. I've seen shippers say stuff like "he doesn't look at (the girl he's rumored to be dating) like he looks at Jeno!!!" and I'm like... duh. Idols are always on, he knows what to do and how to act. He's an affectionate person in general and the fact that he was quick to kiss Haechan in that video someone already posted just tells me he doesn't see anything in interactions like that. 

That said, I wouldn't put Haechan in the same category as Jaemin. He seems more affected by these kind of situations.

Jaehyun is definitely a mystery, he has an image to upkeep and I honestly don't know what goes on with him.

Edited May 7, 2020 by miwa201

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Guys this isn't about the gay club. This was a week before the gay club outbreak, they weren't even in the same area iirc.

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12 minutes ago, dramaking29588 said:

search for jaehyun gay club on twitter  everyone's talkin about it. that's why I'm confused

It's just nctzens messing around lol. Nobody in Korea actually thinks they went to the gay club nor is it even mentioned in the Dispatch article.

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6 hours ago, Goosbanna87 said:

Hello, what do you think about NCT DREAM right now? I'll like to hear some of your thoughts because Jaemin kinda confuses me...

Jeno and Haechan are the suspicious ones to me. I've already mentioned before that I think Jaemin is straight but that's a very unpopular opinion lmao.

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13 hours ago, neo velvet said:

personally i'd say they're all straight except for jeno. 

 

there's not a lot of "proof" for him but i think that's very much intentional on his part. iirc he grew up in quite a conservative catholic household and that seems to have affected his ability to be himself. i don't think he's quite accepted it yet, and i definitely don't think he's out to anyone, including the dreamies.

Hmm that's interesting. I know he and Jaemin are very close and they've known each other for years, but to be honest Dream in general seems quite immature (nothing much to expect from a bunch of teenagers tbh) and they're prone to insensitive jokes so I can see why he'd be wary of coming out to them.

10 hours ago, Jem's said:

In nct dream, Jaemin is the one with the most consistent rumor about having a girlfriend, right before the comeback she uploaded something suspicious and kfans said they already knew. If I remember well, they filmed a webdrama last year so maybe they started dating around that time.

About Jeno and Jaemin, in the recent WI episode, Chenle exposed Jeno 

https://twitter.com/Ijn0423/status/1263027039835090945?s=20

Also it was mentioned that Jeno and Jaemin's bycicles are hung on Jeno's room and that his hobby is riding around the town together.

In conclusion, they seem to have a very platonic relationship where Jeno sometimes act suspicious (?

 

Jaemin is quite obviously dating that girl and people are just in denial. Obviously it's not the definite proof that he's straight but still. I wouldn't take Chenle saying that seriously because he likes to say that kind of stuff all the time. Jeno and Jaemin are very close though, but so are Jaemin and Renjun for example.

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3 hours ago, 3/4illustrator said:

 

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As for Jaemin's rumour, I wonder if he's really dating or it's more for tabloid. I see him walking down the actor path, so maybe SM doesn't mind a relationship? Although I'd expect 127 to rock the boat first, in terms of age.

 

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Jaemin is the most popular member of Dream and he also has the most delusional fans (bc of his idol persona, he's known as the "fansign boyfriend". It doesn't benefit him or Dream in any way to get in a dating scandal, especially since Dream isn't that known outside of the fandom. The girl in question made a careless mistake but there were no news articles written about them in Korea as she's a rookie so SM/her agency didn't address it. It's most likely true but SM has no incentive to confirm it (it would be the same if this was Jaehyun or Taeyong, they're too popular to get into dating scandals. Not sure about Mark bc I feel like his fans are less intense than these three even though he's very popular). I actually think that this might prevent his acting career even though SM has been pushing him for a while.

 

[miwa201]

People really look too much into Mark's faith. He's never given any indication of being homophobic, the only thing people use as evidence is his faith. There's a fan account of a girl meeting him at a fan sign and she mentioned having a girlfriend and he acted totally chill (obviously not some definite evidence that he isn't homophobic, especially since lesbians can be fetishized, but still). Yeah, he's religious but he seems like an open minded guy. His conflict with Haechan in the past seems to be because of Haechan's personality (love him but he seems to love to push other people's buttons, Jaemin also mentioned fighting with him pre-debut). They're actually close irl, and Mark also seems close to Jungwoo who pings to a lot of people. Idk I'm just annoyed with the way people act about his faith.

That said, I think he's definitely straight lmao.

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1 hour ago, IREGRETEVERYTHING said:

Unpopular opinion, but the Baekhyun/Taeyong thing seems very fabricated to me. It all started to scale up after their online concert, now that SuperM is rumoured to have a comeback. Anyone who's followed SM groups for a while can probably pick up on this pattern. To me, they are the ship of the season. Reminiscent of Mark/Kai for the last round of SuperM promos, or Mark/Yuta for Kick it.

In fact, you can tell that SM is pushing the ship with the way they gave Taeyong a freaking budget to do the candy dance challenge, hair, makeup and everything, while Lucas and Ten filmed it on their grainy phone cameras on their way back from practice, lol. 

Not to say Taeyong doesn't have a crush, but I didn't see it from their first appearances as a group, so it's kind of strange to me. It still reads as fan admiration from my pov. 

Oh yeah SM is notorious for these things, and it doesn't help that both Taeyong and Baekhyun are very good at fanservice. I would say Mark isn't that good because he gets really awkward and Yuta is def the one doing the most in the current hot ship that is Yuta/Mark. I don't really see anything beyond admiration in Taeyong/Baekhyun.

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15 hours ago, plutto said:

Yoongi. But he does give fanservice from time to time, though...

He definitely did fanservice some time around their debut, especially with Jimin.

[miwa201]

I actually thought Bogum is gay for quite a while now. But bc of his cult even if he is gay I doubt he'd ever come out. 

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11 hours ago, TataBoo said:

Korean nctzens made a gay chart?? I-

 

I actually remember finding people talking about it when I searched for nct in this thread, but the tweets are either deleted or locked now. The only thing I remember is Korean nctzens not agreeing with international nctzens when it comes to Jaemin being gay and Jeno being straight, they thought it was the opposite.

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8 hours ago, Abiskkum said:

Yeah, I guess you're right. Every opinion is biased in a way, there's no point in denying it...

I'm not a noren shipper though...in fact i'm a HUUUUGE Renhyuck enthusiast. Bc I can differentiate dynamics that I like x what I perceive. To an extent, obviously. About Nomin, I thought it was general consensus that it is a ship that SM encourages (since SM rookies days ). Just as Yuta x Winwin and Chenji (I SHIP IT REALLY HARD) for exemple. Does that mean that every interaction we see on camera is manufactured ? Obviously not. They seem to be one of the closest members of NCT. Their chemistry is real!! But the romantic undertones with all those weird gender roles being reinforced (such as jaemin being the mother and jeno the father)? Not really into it, no.

and I won't ever take any divergent opinion as a offensive ... It's just my perception after all 

 

 

 

 

I don't know why you got those clown reaction emojis. I only got into NCT earlier this year and it's very evident that Nomin is one of its most pushed ships, if not the MOST pushed ship. Yeah, they're obviously close (which is why it doesn't come off as too fake as for example, Yuta and Winwin) but that doesn't mean it isn't pushed. Nomin is also helped by the fact that both Jeno and Jaemin are good at fanservice (especially Jaemin, I swear he was born to be an idol). On the 127 side I think SM tried to do the same with Markhyuck but the problem is that Mark isn't as good at fanservice as Haechan (it's still probably the most popular NCT ship, especially on the Korean side). Now Yuta/Mark is the new pushed ship. SM is notorious for these things.

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The only thing that confuses me about Mark is his reaction to Kang Daniel in that show they did together.

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2 hours ago, bb8__ said:

it's been too shippy as well imo.

It was always shippy tbh... I never commented that much here before but I remember the constant BTS ship wars, especially Jikook vs Taekook. I don't think there's a big difference from before.

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6 hours ago, flowflow said:

I said this before, Bogum being part of a religious cult, a cult he was raised in since he was a kid, doesn't make him suddenly straight. He still pings to me.

Same, and I always felt his friendship with V was quite telling.

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15 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

 yeah, i'm not sure about him...drunk mark hits different. 

He wasn't actually drunk here lol (they were drinking grape juice). But I think his interaction with Kang Daniel was a bit confusing. I can see him being bi. But I wouldn't really take his relationship with Johnny as anything romantic. I know it's a cliche to say this, but they legit seem to have a sibling dynamic.

Edited August 2, 2020 by miwa201

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11 hours ago, Gentle_fox said:

really? I thought grape juice was code for alcohol since it's not allowed on vlive...also i wasn't suggesting that Mark has a thing for Johnny, simply his actions were questionable.  i see i got some dislikes from the "my oppa can't be gay gang" srsly no where did i mention he was, i said i was unsure and that he was confusing. Ridick. 

Well idk if it's not allowed on vlive (iirc Suga drank whisky on a vlive) but they had a bottle that had the "red wine" label on it and then they later said it was grape juice. It doesn't make sense to me that they would through all this trouble just to be actually drinking. I watched the entire vlive and he didn't seem drunk to me (Johnny definitely wasn't). In that particular clip he's tracing over Johnny's tattoo.

My comment about Johnny and Mark wasn't directed towards you specifically, but just a general thought. Like I said, the only thing that's ever made me suspicious of Mark is his interactions with Kang Daniel, nothing with the NCT members. 

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22 minutes ago, bb8__ said:

I think they are, but plenty of idols say they're drinking "grape juice" as code. V did it once but he pours himself off cam. Mark could've been drawing on his arm for all I care, it was the look...that made my head tilt. All speculative.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to downplay that clip or people finding it suspicious, that's everyone's prerogative. I just really don't think he was drunk lol. If you want to see Mark drunk you can see it in the Boss behind the scenes. In that vlive he was his usual self. Of course I could be wrong idk. I don't even think it's that relevant anyways.

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I don't know anything about TXT but it's interesting seeing people say Yeonjun is straight considering from what I've seen around on twitter it seems to me the Yeonjun/Soobin ship is like the Taekook of TXT. Guess he's good at fanservice.

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9 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

 

The part where you are saying jimin wanted to explain because it suggestive, that is something I don't get. There is no need for it to record it and show it to the fans, unless there is another motive. And in my eyes it is really to create that extra bond with the fans and capitalise on their friendship.

That's exactly it. Look at the reactions when the DVD was released. Jikook and "hickey" were trending on twitter for quite a while. Big Hit knows what they're doing and the way I see it Jikook is probably the most pushed ship in the group (Jimin does the most with it but Jungkook isn't exactly innocent either). The only thing that I find odd is that Taekook isn't as pushed considering it's still the most popular BTS ship and the two of them are the most popular members.

Shippers bring money and intensity that leads to group support. It wouldn't surprise me if seeing these clips led to jikook shippers ordering the DVD if they hadn't earlier. What I find a bit sad is that sometimes it seems like shipping has taken a bigger position compared to music, Jungkook fans were looking forward to seeing him rehearse My Time and there were barely 2 minutes of that. I don't follow TXT so I don't know but I wonder how shipping/fan service is done there.

I'm not really a BTS fan anymore but I sometimes lurk to see what the guys are doing and my opinion hasn't really changed from the time I was a fan, I think Jimin is gay and Jungkook is straight (if anything Jungkook is very bro like if you get what I mean).

Edited September 11, 2021 by miwa201

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I highly doubt Chris Martin knows if any of the members are gay or not but ofc this didn't stop Taekook shippers to get all tinhatty since they're supposedly the only members involved in the song.

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10 minutes ago, Josaline said:

I didn't listen to the leak but according to fans, all the members are part of the song?

 

I listened to the leak and only heard Taehyung and Jungkook. Some people said they heard RM too but I didn't hear it, it was mostly Chris Martin and a bit of Taehyung and Jungkook. Unless they rerecorded the song.

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3 minutes ago, Josaline said:

Is the whole song leaked or just a small part of it? If it's just a small part of it, there's still a chance that other members will be a part as well.

I think the entire song leaked? I can't be too sure though, what I listened to sounded a bit repetitive so maybe it's just one snippet repeated over and over.