baekjoong 974 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) True. Even something as "in your face" like Stigma was taken out of context and even stated that it was us that gave it a homosexual interpretation. I mean, I know songs tend to have multiple interpretations based on the listener, but if a song is stated to be something "personal", then it means it only has one true interpretation and it was very clear in the lyrics what it is. Another popular one was Sehun's "I like men" statement. In here, it's pretty obvious what he meant, but outside, people will argue that it was taken out of context and would state that it means he likes his male fans as well. And if someone says "I want a wife" or "I am not gay", they NEVER take it out of context, or think that they probably have no choice but to say that. They push their dumb narrative in both instances. Hypocrites. Edited December 7, 2017 by baekjoong 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 What a beautiful gifset The only time I've seen Jungkook react enthusiastically to women. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Someone posted a thread of links to shows Tony and Jaeduck have appeared on, in case anyone wants them : Click here to view the Tweet Thank you!! I love you!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) No one here thinks all of BTS is gay. We just discuss the receipts. When we start calling them gay/bi 100%, and refuse to accept any other possibility at all, throw the words "delusion" at us. Before then, "oppa is straight" fangirls can eff off. Seriously. I discuss more than one group in here, but I find myself defending BTS all the time. It's getting tiring. If you think someone's gay/bi/pan, sure. If you think they're straight, sure. There is no need to defend for or against any of these stances. Moreover, remember that this thread has 100s of people posting on it, people with different points of views. Don't generalize. Frankly, you girls look immature and dumb when you come here and post single lines about how someone is "soooo straight", when we write essays about how they "could" be LGBT, argue for and against receipts someone presents here, and still conclude that we're just speculating, and anything could be true. We don't know for sure if they're LGBT. I'm sure the people in this thread know that. Do you girls know that you can't be sure that they're straight? I doubt it. Ps. Lol at the girl who said with certainty that Jin is the only gay one, but admitted that she does not even notice him, meaning he's not her bias, and she wanted a weak defense against her ACTUAL bias being "accused" of being gay (wonder who it is). Edited December 10, 2017 by baekjoong 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I assume that it's because j-hope is known for having a persona. His mannerisms (mostly the only reason people think he is gay) are just an act. And yea, there are other instances where he did something suspicious (like when he almost said boyfriend instead of girlfriend), but they aren't as suspicious as the receipts for the other members. Exactly. This is my stance as well, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Is this becoming "which bts members do you think are gay" thread or.... Come on. Let's be fair. We had pages of arguments about Sehun a few days back coz someone was angry we're calling him gay. Happens with popular groups. Gotta call out the fangirls and move on with our discussions. Edited December 10, 2017 by baekjoong 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Hello!! I wondered if Jimin is gay or bi? I thought he is gay but some say he likes girls. ( I don't really believe that seulmin thing) what are you thoughts on him please? But I'm like 99% sure he isn't straight I think he's more gay than bi. When I see him reacting to women like I've seen him reacting to men, I'll change my stance. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) Hello! new to Onehallyu and I created an account specially to comment on tonduck LOL. I've been recently obsessed with Sechskies and tonduck, and I got some serious couple vibes from the first video I ever watched of them, which is their Happy Together ep. I was kinda discouraged while watching Mom's diary, because the show kept referring to their ex-girlfriends, mostly Tony, and less on Jaeduck, and I thought some info was too specific to be fake but this post revived my OTP feelings! I just want to add in some of my thoughts for the points raised above. For 3, I didn't interpret what Tony was saying to be only Jaeduck paying for the remodel? I thought it simply meant that both of them had paid but Jaeduck used his money earned from Sechskies, and from the radio show, that he just spent a lot of money on the remodel. In 'Please take of my fridge', Tony said both their money is gone from the remodel. But yeah, Jaeduck spending all of his money remodelling his 'friend's place is highly suspicious, and I think this is THE moment that I realised they are seriously more than friends. For 6, I actually think Tony's room is bigger than Jaeduck's. If you watch Mom's diary ep 20/22, when Moon Hee Jun is cleaning Tony's room, the room has 2 doors, 1 door connecting to the rest of the house and another one leading to an extension where there's a little hallway, his own toilet and wardrobe space. Also I didn't know that Tony bought the house? I assumed they were renting it together and was kinda shocked when they remodelled it because you can't remodel a rented house. If anyone has any links to news on Tony buying the house, I'd be very grateful! I love Sechskies's guesting on Kangta's radio, probably my 2nd favourite tonduck moments after their Happy Together ep. Tony getting jealous and Jaeduck trying to defend himself AND the members giving knowing smiles...omg it was too adorable. Hi! Yeah, Mom's diary can be a bummer if you let their heteronormative shit get to you. The premise of the show is "why their 40 (or 40+) year old sons are unmarried" so they play up that "straight and single but looking for a wife" narrative a lot. I'm assuming its a show watched by a lot of older housewives. So don't worry about it. But even then, Tony could be Bi, or he could have bearded a lot in his early years to please his mom/fans/friends etc. If you hear him talk about his story, he says 2008 (military) was his turning point. That he was living a fake life before then (no real friends, always alone) and meeting Jaeduck made all the difference. That's pretty telling, in my opinion. He was probably trying to live up to societal standards before that, which was why he was constantly depressed. Jaeduck seems to have made a HUGE impact on his outlook towards life for a mere friend (or even best friend). The fact that they immediately started living together, go on vacations together and refuse to separate from each other even when the marriage pressure is at an all time high for them right now (both are hitting 40 pretty soon and literally everyone's asking them about marriage every chance they get) tells me he probably met a like minded person who gave him the strength to live his life for himself. Pretty romantic, if the story wasn't so sad. Well, I was confused about who paid the most as well, but I'm assuming Jaeduck paid most or all, simply because Tony responded immediately in that Mom's diary episode saying so. It wasn't scripted (the way he said it was instinctive, almost), so I take that more into account than their Refrigerator episode. Either way, he spent all the money he earned on that house, which isn't normal, as you said. Tony bought their house. It was confirmed more than once in the Mom's diary episodes. Umm, maybe look at their house warming episode (the episode number was around 40ish I think)? I forgot which one it was. Danny An and Tony's mom expressed concerns about how he was going to sell the house since it has a weird convenient store installed in the kitchen and a home bar now. Also, I heard that news came out when he bought the house back in 2013, so it's their house. They've expressed it many times. They remodeled the house. You can't do that on rented property. I'm not sure if we can find any English sources (it's so rare with these older groups :( ), but if anyone does have, please share. Really? I know Tony has his own bathroom (Jaeduck talked about cleaning his bathroom in one of the latest episodes), which probably means there is at least one more bathroom in their house. Maybe it is bigger. But now Jaeduck converted their third bedroom into his closet (the pic I attached), which is what I was more surprised about, since those are privileges house owners have, not house mates. That jealousy moment was kinda shocking, actually. You don't see such blatant displays of jealousy in the other "couples" we discuss in this thread. It was on instinct. He was visibly angry and upset, his face heated up, he started sweating, he tried to cover it up when he was called out but that made everything worse. Lol, it was hilarious, but ridiculous too. I mean, he's getting jealous over something that happened 23+ years back. But, that moment is one of their biggest proofs. If you have more moments to share, or if you want to talk more about them here, please do. I rarely see a Jekki/Toduck fan in this thread. Would love to discuss them more. Edited December 15, 2017 by baekjoong 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It still is a homophobic country..... i can not see teens(some of them didnt even discover their sexuality) answering sincere at such question. It simply doesnt make sense. Or even knowing which orientation they are. Asian teens don't have a flourishing sex life like Western teens do. Most of their sexual experiences at that age are limited to porn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I will put this on spoiler because even though is on topic its speculation based on stereotypes and stuff like that isn't really proof. This gay youtuber who lives in Korea was asked who he thinks are the gay idols, he didn't provide any good proof but I find interesting he mentioned the idols that have been discussed in this thread before...Kinda interesting that a guy that isn't into kpop that much or at least not at the same extent to us share the same views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCsZ1nVYmEc That comment section is a mess lol. We have straight fangirls educating a gay man on who's gay and who's not. Oh, and we also have westerners educating an Asian living in Korea on how "different" Korea is. Kind of similar to the "Oppa is straight, stop stereotyping!!!" fangirls we get here. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) that's straight fangirls for you, speaking over us when it comes to lgbt matters, I bet if the video was about certain popular ship the comments sections wouldn't be so messy. also LOL @ them acting like there aren't gay people in Korea and or acting like gay people arent basically the same everywhere else, I could take my gay ass to any country and could still detect any queer girls based on simple observation, but hey I guess they know more than us Yeah, it's getting so bad that people here are thinking twice before calling obviously gay guys gay, coz we don't want the "stereotyping" accusation thrown at us. Utter bulls**t. smh. "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck". That Korean rule is complete bs lol. Most Asian countries have similar cultures (Korean culture is similar to my culture) and yes, skinship isn't such a big deal, unlike the west, but it isn't as bad as these girls think it is. You can't hump your "friend" in public or be all over them and still not get weird stares. They just won't call you out on it (but they'll talk behind your back). That's the only difference. Edited December 16, 2017 by baekjoong 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Came across this in my feed again lol. Good timing. A great example of how suspicious off-camera skinship looks (especially the start where Ken holds Jin's face before he lays him down on his lap). Not everything is "Koreans being Koreans" folks. Edited December 16, 2017 by baekjoong 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Isnt porn hard to get in SK? I read that you have to pay and have a valid id to watch it. Also companies have sexual education classes(among others), but i dont know if public schools teaches it too. The first time I heard about Sex ed in American schools was when I was already of legal age lol. It was a strange phenomenon for me then. But Korea might be different, though I doubt it. Umm, I don't think porn is as hard to get as you think it is. It's illegal where I am as well, but our teenage boys don't have any problem getting access to them. Kids always find a way. Ps. We used to share all kind of paid stuff when we were at school. Technology is much more advanced now, so I'm sure they have no trouble getting access to paid/restricted stuff. Edited December 16, 2017 by baekjoong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Stay strong thread. I know Jonghyun was an influence and a figure they admired for many people here, including myself. This is all too horrible to deal with, but please don't go through it by yourself, there are people here to talk to who care too and who can understand, you're not alone, we're all here for each other, together. :( He will be missed. And last he got hate for publicly supporting a bi transger student. I HATE THIS SOCIETY. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) I know it's wrong to speculate about the deceased, but did you ever think he was one of us and we lost another queer person today? because this wouldn't be the first time that this happened in korea Yeah, I do. He said it's been hard, in his last message to his sister. I wouldn't be surprised if hiding was what was hard. Not to mention, the last thing he did was support a transgender student and he got serious hate for it from a conservative group. I just wish he had someone to talk to, to get him through it. :c i'm really worried about people he was close to... it must be so hard. i'm worried about woohyun because he's always so sensitive and lonely. posted a comment on his insta, i wish there was more i could do. :x Yeah, me too. Woohyun came to my mind when I was heard about Jonghyun. I'll never forget the way he cried on stage that time. I just wish these people have support systems, like minded friends who can help each other. I don't think its fair that they are made to feel so lonely and helpless. Edited December 18, 2017 by baekjoong 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Can we just let people grieve the way they want to? I know this thread loves censoring people for the littlest things, but I hoped that wouldn't be the case this time. I was wrong. If thinking him being LGBT played a role makes them grieve better, let them! I know that was part of my process yesterday. It helped me expend energy against the society more rather than just thinking "Why" over and over. No one's speculating here. They're just handling something so tragic the way they can. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Come on now, of course it won't be ever disclosed, if only because outing him after his death would be seen as extremely distasteful. We know, and that will have to be enough. Yeah, they'll bury it. They'll never say why he was depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) Depression is affected by all kinds of different things, please don't boil it down to just this one issue (that we don't even technically know about). He talked openly about his struggle with hate, overworking, perfectionism, loneliness.....depression is a cruel beast that can affect every part of you ;; Yes, I do know. I was depressed an suicidal as well. But fact remains that, if there really were something that stands out, we'll never get to hear it, and that's what I meant. I'm the last person who'll diminish his pain, and I didn't think my post came off like that. That said, I'm not in the state of mind to go back and forth right now, or get involved in any discussion like I usually do, so I better take a break from this thread. Edited December 19, 2017 by baekjoong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) I come back here after almost a year of absence and people are still knee deep in the Vkook vs Jikook debate LOL. Oh, and to add on to the discussion, as a married person (newly married, infact), I don't think people suddenly stop thinking everyone else look like cardboard cutouts once they are in love. They still admire other people and their attractiveness. And it doesn't matter. Why? Well, the bond you have with your significant other far surpasses any compliments you can give someone else. If the bond is strong, neither of the couple will ever feel insecure over simple things like that. We smile at our colleagues at work. Talk to them. Laugh with them. It might look like flirting to a third person, but it's just being friendly. You might even find someone attractive while on the subway, and you might glance at them. But that's it. It's appreciating beauty. You might even do that for a well-dressed person of a sex you are not sexually attracted to.That's real life. People who say you shouldn't look at anyone else if you're in love are just insecure, and no, that's not healthy. At all. Edited October 29, 2018 by baekjoong 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/11/2021 at 8:33 PM, Aryu said: I mean he can be gay and not in a relationship...thus it's not a problem. And I think idols the fakeness of fan service. Taeyong low-key really gives me thirsty twink vibes, and I would say that in no other place than this cause I hope you guys understand I do not mean that in a bad way...otherwise I would be shading literally three separate friends of mine LOL. I would argue it's nice representation But you know, vibes. I'm just putting that out there. Reveal hidden contents Putting this in spoilers because I'm sure most are tired of my XZ agenda but lemme just drop a cute video featuring fanboys...fanboys of male artists have a special part in my heart. Also the songs slaps?? I'm humming it all day lmao. Whoa! Xiao Zhan is being discussed here? Can you point me to where you've mentioned him in this thread before? I'd love you read your thoughts. I was always confused about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Park Bogum - I read up on the cult stuff because it keeps popping up everywhere, but if he was truly supporting the cult, he wouldn't do an ALS challenge, or visit hospitals for volunteer work (there was even a weird rumor back in 2019 that he was admitted for a, you know, embarrassing issue). So, I'm not exactly sold on a homophobic cult-going christian image that antis like to project to say he's homophobic. That said, there are a lot of telling moments with men. He treats younger actresses like kids (Yoo jun - no interest - I don't know why they are shipped at all) and as playmates (Hyeri), and the older ones with extreme respect (Yoona, etc). That's all. He's extremely shy and his mannerisms completely change when he's with men he finds attractive (Joonki, back in the days). I found the manager videos very sus. That's not how a straight guy acts, even in Korea. I believe the manager is still around, though there are no rumors of them acting weird anymore, so they probably toned it down. I don't know if there was something between them, but hey, looks sus. And also, the censorship is huge in any mainstream site. His fans are too overprotective. They even let the 'cheated with SHK' rumors slide, but not the gay rumors, especially on twitter. Extremely defensive, if you ask me. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Baby_Lion said: Park Bo Gum case is very weird. Back in 2016-2017, there were legit Korean gay men said they saw him hang out at gay bar a lot. Don’t know if the information was make up or real since there were no link/ photo evidences (maybe they were deleted because they want to protect PBG privacy). To the extreme weird. His scandal with SHK cleared up his gay rumors actually. It doesn't seem to have affected his image much, considering his high-profile movies right after. I saw comments joking how the rumors were ridiculous but now he's an 'innocent' man (not gay). Coincidence? Gay rumors are more damaging than cheating rumors that were immediately denied, after all. There was a huge rumor about him visiting a hospital for a medical emergency, http://koalasplayground.com/2019/08/25/park-bo-gum-trends-on-search-engines-as-seeking-awkward-medical-treatment-after-anonymous-post/ but I see nothing regarding that incident anymore - totally wiped out, except for this lonely article, when his name was actually trending back then when the rumor came out. Someone tried really hard to "straighten" his image, and they succeeded, especially now with the military enlistment. Perfectly done. Actually, this is just speculation, but Song joog ki have rumors back then too? With In sung, and then Bogum. That single extremely rushed marriage + extremely rushed divorce cleared both their names, and now fangirls love them more than ever (especially Song Joong ki). Dunno what's the actual tea though, very confusing, but I don't personally believe that Bogum and V ever dated, seeing how Song Joong ki cried at Bogum getting an award, and he cried at their wedding, and the subsequent persistent rumors, and them stopping any interactions, etc, etc. Bogum and V were probably a smokescreen lol. Ah well, we can only speculate. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Baby_Lion said: That Reddit guy profile is legit. He is a Korean gay men who also had posts, comments on Reddit Asian gay discourse and shared experiences about being gay in Korean. So it means he really saw two celebrities at gay bar. One of them could be Bogum unless he made a mistake (like the guy he saw resemble PBG but not actually PBG). Another guy we didn’t know, just knew he was famous too. I mean he could also make a mistake with the other guy too but doubled mistakes two commoners as celebrities ?? Low probability in my opinion. Yeah, I saw what he posted. Bogum was famous back in 2016, but BTS wasn't that famous, at least not enough to be recognized by a random gay guy, but Song Joong Ki certainly was more than famous. Maybe the gay rumors about the 2 of them got too big for the company to handle, which is why SJK married so fast. It was a weird setup when you think about it. They barely dated a year before they married, and then within a year, rumors of them separating were everywhere, and the next year, they divorced, abruptly, without explanations (SJK didn't even inform his parents). 1 hour ago, pokezuko said: i just want to add i think this is the most plausible explanation to "TaeGum" obviously this is conjecture but my theory: don't think they dated, they probably played around while SJK was married and Tae may have caught feeling but the BTS members probably saw through Bogum and realized he only wanted to have fun. that's what lead to the awkward backstage moment at their concert (if someone can link it pls do, i think it was a Bangtan Bomb?) obviously it's just a theory, but i don't feel like the other members were averse to him because of the cult. it may be one reason, but not the only tbh. Tae had the cutest puppy crush, but I never saw Bogum reciprocating it. He treated him like a kid, no lingering glances, never shy, nothing out of the ordinary for guy who's so emotionally charged (cries at the top of the hat). This is why I'm not sure if they ever dated. Hung out coz both are gay (if PBG goes to gay clubs and its well-know, then V probably knew about it too and found comfort in a fellow gay guy (considering how depressed he was - Stigma and all), but I would believe they dated or had feelings on both sides if PBG just showed SOMETHING, but the Music bank videos are sad. He just has his "Ah, you're so cute", smile, and nothing else. Tae caught feelings, yes, but I don't think Bogum reciprocated it for them to have much of anything in the terms of a relationship. That vid wasn't awkward to me since Jin just posted his photo with him a few months back, and it was probably an auto-bot or staff that unfollowed him because he didn't follow them (Influencers do that a lot to keep their follower % decent). 51 minutes ago, Baby_Lion said: @pokezuko https://youtu.be/nQoWRzoFU5M Here is the link of the moment you mentioned. Tae did seem awkward in here, but this moment was filmed on 20 March 2019, so imo maybe he just being shy because Bogum didn’t say to Tae that he was going to attend BTS concert. In the same year on 14 June, Tae was spotted with Bogum on a coffee date. On 16 June he was with Bogum too for BG’s birthday (along with an senior actor and BG’s manager). After that a few day the Song-Song couple mess rumor with PBG was broken out. It seem that if there were indeed something juicy here between Tae - Bogum - Joongki, it happened after the Song - Song - Bogum case. Yeah, this is why I don't believe that video was ever awkward. They hung out later, they were still friends, celebrated birthday and all, but then exactly 10 days later, the divorce news broke out, after which PBG was linked to SHK, and that's it, no more V and PBG. Too much of a coincidence. Now the question is, the PBG and SHK rumors were quite persistent, a lot of people believed them, and still believe those rumors as the number 1 reason for Song-Song divorce. So, either it really was true (which is, whoa, I'll question everything I see from now on if its true haha), or a smokescreen created by their PR teams to clear them off more damaging rumors (gay), and maybe that's why they never did anything more to help quell it (a statement that they'll take action, which the company never followed-through on, and no denials from either SJK or SHK - they let the rumor fester too much, if you ask me). 32 minutes ago, pokezuko said: i was thinking more about the other members' reactions to PBG. imo they seemed more awkward. the idea i have sort of loosely follows that timeline, i guess? PBG looked to Tae, they messed around, and Tae caught feelings but Bogum didn't want more than that and was still hung up on SJK. SJK got a divorce, Bogum and him reconciled and then things fell through between Tae. this is 100% a tinfoil hat theory so no one should take it to heart lmao Given that they stopped interacting after the last cheating rumor, hmm, maybe Tae was quite serious, and subsequently hurt, or maybe he felt disgusted that PBG cheated (if that rumor was actually true, which I don't think it is). But then again, I don't think the feelings he caught were too serious because Jin just posted a pic with PBG a few months back, so maybe Tae was a little hurt back then, but maybe they were just good friends and he just got over it? But the fact that they stopped meeting up for their little dates does mean that Tae was hurt at some point, and that point was during Song-Song divorce, so if the gay rumors are to be believed, maybe something happened between SJK and PBG. And yup, Tinfoil lol. All we can do is speculate without our Onehallyu bubble, it's not like we'll ever know the truth. 43 minutes ago, Wnnabe said: PBG certainly has a ton of gay rumors, I think it's an almost like an open secret. But whether he had a relationship with V or SJK it's a mystery, and from the little that I saw in korean communities there is no consensus other than PBG being possibly gay. Many think his relationship with V was sus, some think they dated, others that PBG liked him but nothing more happened (there were also some rumors that V was dating or hooked up with a non-celeb woman in 2018). Same with SJK, that PBG liked him but it was one-sided. All just speculation obviously, since some assume that V and SJK must be 100% straight lol. I do remember seeing someone say they had an industry friend and they also heard that PBG and V had dating rumors but there is no way to confirm they're telling the truth. What we know for sure it's that they were spotted together a lot. Nah, I kept seeing that SJK had gay rumors, though they were squashed like anything after Song-Song were confirmed, like whoa, perfectly squashed. Before that people thought SJK and PBG weird, didn't they? Look at any of their videos (especially the fanmeeting ones) and you'll see angry fans asking them to behave. 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, Dont mind me said: I have seen the video a few times now and the way Taehyung acts around Bogum is fascinating. If you haven't seen you friend in a long time, normally you hug and have a happy surprised face and you both are very giddy. Atleast that is how I am with friends and usually both friends talk in a hyped up way. The way taehyung is acting matches more with having a hook up crashing at your work place. I am not getting BFF vibe from them. Side note: Its always good to have friends like JK en Yoongi who see through the bullshit. They were really not feeling his presence and giving off fake smiles. I also got the feeling that Jin/Jhope and Jimin, were really to easily accommodating to Bogum. Considering his cult connection, I honestly wouldn't think its smart to be connected to him and that Bighit would promote that on Bangtan tv. Actually no, I saw the video again because people keep pointing it out, and JK shouts "Bogum hyung" right after seeing him, and smiles widely, so no bad blood from his side. Yoongi probably didn't know him very well, and we all know he isn't one to be overly excited about anything, let alone a fellow celebrity he doesn't even know. Taehyung smiles, but isn't overly affectionate, but he looks very happy. The first reactions are usually the true reactions and he was shy but happy to see him. That's all I see. The shitstorm started at the end of June, a few months later, when people who had a coffee date a few days back totally stopped interacting everywhere, even though I don't think things are that bad between BTS as a whole and Bogum because Jin posted a pic of his on We chat 2 months back. That cult thing, if it was true, would have tanked his career, since it tanks political careers in SK. If you dig a little in twitter, you'll see a Korean posting a lot of receipts about how only western fans still talk about the cult and it was all cleared up back then, and he goes to hospitals for volunteer work and treatments so it doesn't make sense. If he was too into the Homophobic doctrines of Christianity, he'll act weird around a LOT of circumstances, and he rarely does. There'll be no gay rumors at all, since you know how Cult boys are good at suppressing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baekjoong 974 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Josaline said: I wouldn't try to read the manager part too deeply. Because when many idols feel uncomfortable in very crowded areas, they usually tend to snuggle with people who will protect them.Taehyung is like that. He usually tends to snuggle with his managers, his bodyguards, and even Jungkook or Jimin. Reveal hidden contents Of course, but they didn't create speculations that ended in fan panic hehe. Fans were saying he was clinging when there was literally no fan around, just while hanging out. It was even in articles, that noticeable. So, if not sus, I'll just consider it a receipt for how "gay" he is? I mean, if you dig through the Park Bogum and Love in the moonlight threads (especially the drama thread), the mods had to delete a lot of posts because fans of the drama started pointing out how "unmanly" he was with men (not just the manager, even his male costars) and it created a huge issue where PBG fans had to defend him. Now his fans just accept it I guess. I was very surprised the first time I saw the complete change in his drama personas (you know, charming, manly though soft - that's how most of his roles are) and real world persona, when he's not out there interacting with fans. That's what I meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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