Which male idols do you think are gay?

[jiminie]

On a really serious note, I find V's life story (sexuality wise) extremely tragic (assuming what everyone and their mother knows; that V is a huge closet case and just recently came to terms with himself) and just the utter Pits and if I Ever had a son, I'd never let them experience the kind of pressure, stress and exhaustion Taehyung probably went through all these years in regards to his sexuality.

 

He's been so forced into the image of visual, the guy of your dreams with the deep voice, the perfect boyfriend who can sing, dance and make you laugh (catered to women). That's just the image, what's worse is his familial ties. You can clearly see and feel before the he knew and owed it to his parents to have a family even if its not the kind he wants (he probably wants to settle down with the man of his dreams and a bunch of children, adopted or not).

 

The pressure being put onto him is insane, the fact that he has to maintain a certain image that literally goes against who he really is on the inside and the fact that he probably held his feelings in from everyone else (except maybe fron the members and BigHit as a company)

 

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When you think about it, I think part of the reason BTS is such a tight knit group is that because they've probably held and known each others deepest and darkest secrets that they feel extremely comfortable, almost lime a family.

 

I think Taehyung's situation is somewhat bittersweet. 'Bitter' in the sense that BigHit is indeed stressing a particular image for Taehyung - one that fans will enjoy and invest in, and one that follows societal ideals (nothing controversial, nothing overly taboo). And, in that regard, the closed-mindedness of the industry in general is certainly 'bitter'. However, in terms of actual support, I think being surrounded by his caring and open-minded members is something 'sweet' (and necessary) for Taehyung's situation. Perhaps he wouldn't be able to find that sort of support-system elsewhere. I do think he has become more accepting of himself, which I'm beyond glad to see. The fact that Taehyung released 'Stigma' is a big sign that he feels as though he has, to some extent, overcome his prior situation. 

Edited January 5, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Actually, I wanted to discuss his topic.

I'm not a shipper, not seriously, I ship YoonMin, TaeJin and VMin as friends/cute pairings but don't seriously suspect anything besides friendship. However I noticed something about JiKook's interactions

 

I've always struggled figure out Jungkook, or trying to, and we have to take into account for Jungkook that he clearly loves attention and being fussed over/spoiled by his hyungs.

 

It's been years and things have obviously changed by now, but there was a time when Jungkook really acted weird around Jimin. Obviously, he used to reject him so much and so coldly that some fans even downright asked Jungkook if he hated Jimin or whether he actually liked Jimin.

 

But the thing is, fans justify this by saying Jimin was "shy" but no? He was never shy like that around the other members. He only rejected Jimin like that. V was arguably just as clingy as Jimin but Jungkook was totally unaffected by V's skinship and touching. It was just Jimin he reacted so weirdly to.

 

So you might think "The. Jungkook just didn't like Jimin?" But no, he ADORED Jimin. That's what makes him rejecting Jimin so coldly and harshly, really odd. He's always adored Jimin. He praised him constantly. People joke that Jimij is obsessed with Jungkook but as someone who used to be a serious Jungkook stan especially in Korea, Jungkook probably obsessed over Jimin just as much and he's probably his favorite Hyung.

 

So why the hell was Jungkook acting like that?

And the thing is that even after Jimin stopped being clingy and kind of distanced himself, Jungkook instantly clung to him and wanted that attention back from Jimin. That's not weird, because Jungkook is someone who wants attention especially from his hyungs and as I said, he would especially want it from Jimin seeing how he adores him. So that's not weird.

 

What's weird is that Jungkook wanted attention from Jimin, and once Jimin started getting that attention again, he didn't reject Jimin BUT he still looks panicked and sometimes wary whenever Jimin gets too close/affectionate/whatever.

 

It's also noticeable how Jimin is so much more careful with the way he acts around Jungkook now than he was aroun debut era. He is no longer so open about his affection for Jungkook, and sometimes you can even see him hesitate to do skinship or do something. Jimin's actions to JK have changed too

 

But Jungkook, although he doesn't reject Jimin anymore and in fact, most of the time it's Jungkook who is all over Jimin/trying to touch Jimin now (tables have turned), he still seems to panic sometimes. It's weird to me. Especially because he's not like that with other members? What is it about Jimin that makes him act that way? I mean he obviously adores Jimin and the two are very very close and have a deep bond as all of BTS do. So why is JK like that?

 

I think it's honestly perfectly safe to say Jimin had a crush, innocent or tiny or not, back in debut era/earlier times

 

I think Jungkook's reactions are really odd but I'm not sure what to make of them. We know he likes girls- that much is obvious based on his hilarious reaction to women in AHL. But idk, I just can't see him as fully straight? Yet I can't see him as bi either.

 

I want to know what opinions people may have on why Jungkook always reacts like that. He used to reject Jimin, now he's usually all over Jimin, even off-camera (that intimate backhugs when they didn't know we're being filmed, fancams/accounts, Etc), but he still seems kind of hesitant and at times panicked. I just don't get it?

 

Anyone who wants to argue Jungkook's change towards Jimin as "fanservice" obviously didn't follow BTS,, because it took quite some time for them to become so openly affectionate, and even then a lot of their interactions are more low-key. It was a slow process. Fanservice would be sudden and it's quite obvious when a pairing is getting pushed for Fanservice.

 

 

Edit: I would also like to add that Jungkook has the sort of personality that seems as if he reject people he actually loves the most. I'm not being a delusional shipper and implying be had feelings for Jimin, not at all. I'm talking about the way Jungkook interacts with females he considers attractive. In AHL, he got flustered and ran away. He also freezes up and tends to act sort of cold and panicked.

 

Jungkook has this female stylist noona that he really likes, and she is always getting teased by him. He annoys her purposefully, but then always wants her attention. He's basically a little kid. He remarkably teases Jimin the most too but also clings to him. I think the way Jungkook interacts with people he likes a lot - be it romantic or just a special friend he wants attention from - is he tends to sort of tease them or even push them away, but in reality he doesn't want that. Hope it makes sense.

THIS. Never has a post outlined my thought process more. To be perfectly honest, Jungkook's behaviour towards Jimin frustrated me for a long time. It frustrated me in the sense that it seemed illogical - I just didn't know how to read it. Almost anyone could tell you that Jimin had or has a crush on Jungkook; that much is obvious. But I think you're correct in stating that Jungkook's behaviour towards Jimin is different to his behaviour towards his other hyungs. It's very peculiar, actually. One might say that Jungkook hates Jimin - he sometimes ignores him, mocks him, and often seems quite distant towards him - but on the other hand, it's very clear that Jungkook ADORES Jimin. Jimin's behaviour towards Jungkook has changed over time, in the sense that he's less openly affectionate towards him, but in my opinion I think that Jimin still likes Jungkook as much as ever. I might be reaching, but Jimin IS kind of the sensitive/jealous type, and I think the fact that Jungkook rejected his affections time and time again has him resorting to other methods? Not 'hard-to-get' per se, but he's definitely withdrawn a lot of his affection. I'm not exactly a shipper either, but if I had to be honest, I think if there's one person in BTS that Jungkook has the possibility of liking in a romantic way, it's Jimin. A big indicator for me is how differently Jungkook treats him to the other members. Like he doesn't know what to do with his own feelings. I could be wrong, but I'm also interested to hear other opinions. 

Edited January 12, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

I once saw a post here about idols talking to each other frequently through DM's. To go along with this, the show 'Happy Together' recently spoke about something similar.

 

Here's the video (topic begins at 1:06:20):

 

 

 

It's interesting to think about how this could apply to same-sex idol dating (since the video was geared towards straight couples). Of course, it's probably more common to see two male idols talking at events, as opposed to a male and female idol talking (hence, less "suspicious" to most). Still, the process could be somewhat similar.

Edited January 18, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

I imagine it's harder to get together as a gay couple behind the scenes, but once you're together, it'd be easy to fly under the radar. Plenty of kpop friendships are known for wandering around together at odd times (see, Taemin and Kai) and doing date like things that straight couples would create scandals over. Like, take Zico and Seolhyun. They were found out because she was visiting his place. If she was a guy there wouldn't be any fuss over it, people would just chalk it up to two friends finding some time to chill.

 

BUT, it's not always foolproof? Not an idol, but a singer Tei ( miss him) had some gay rumours because he liked to visit cafes with male friends.

 

Dating within the group would be far more dangerous.

 

In terms of Kai and Taemin, I remember Taemin saying in an interview that managers asked him if he was dating Kai, after seeing the photos Dispatch released of them together. I suppose it's a manager's job to keep updated with their idol's life, private and otherwise. I guess, if the boot seemed to fit, a manager would have to consider (or at least inquire) that the idol might be in a same-sex relationship, no matter how 'unorthodox' they believe that might be. I'm not too familiar with Tei, but that sounds interesting. It's curious how that sort of behaviour could be written off in most cases, but I guess it mostly depends on that idol or singer's prior reputation and people's preconceived notion about them.

Edited January 18, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Same can be said for the people who say they are fake. How do you know? Do you know them personally?

I think the way that SM handles Kaisoo is quite suspicious. It might seem far-fetched and unrealistic to a lot of people, but remember that SM does not have a reputation for being a very trustworthy and honest company, and would likely go to greater lengths than a lot of people might realise.

Edited January 22, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Actually, regarding Jimin, even K-fans joke around saying that he doesn't have much of an interest in girl groups

 

Jimin's expression when he's watching girl groups

Some comments:

 

1. You see there's only one "girl" for Park Jimin and that is "Seagull". +81 -1

(A/N: "Seagull" here refers to Jungkook because that was supposed to be his stage name)

 

2. Seriously Jimin and Suga look like stones ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ I watched fancams of them watching A Pink and Gfriend's performances and while Taehyung and Seokjin were dancing along to their songs, I thought Yoongi and Jimin were just sitting there with blank faces... +52 -0

 

3.  I don't really like "impregnable" image but seriously his expressions like "I'm not interested" face +12 -0

 

xxx

 

Also, I had watched this video ages ago

 

Here you can see Jimin looking uninterested at whatever is going on (around 0:30). He looks back for a few seconds before staring straight ahead. Jungkook on the other hand looks so excited/happy/awed/interested in the outcome of that race, but Jimin literally looks like "Pffttt so what I can run faster than her". His face throughout is exactly like  -__-

 

And like some of those K-ARMY, even I've noticed that Jimin and Yoongi look mostly bored during GG performances and pay more attention when it comes to BG stages. 

I'm not saying they're GAY because of this as such but it's certainly something...

 

I completely agree with you here. I myself have noticed, on many occasions, Jimin and Yoongi's blank faces whilst watching GG performances. When male groups perform, they seem far more animated and lively. I mean, they're reactions aren't exactly the confirmation towards their sexuality, but they are telling. In terms of Jimin, I've noticed that sometimes he's even more caught up in watching Jungkook or Taehyung dance along the songs than watching the actual stage. He just seems pretty uninterested. 

[jiminie]

 

I really dislike this whole "SM only reveals fake couples" narrative going on here. 

Like maybe Baekyeon was fake, maybe Kaistal is fake(although I 100% believe that they are really dating) but the only reasoning I get here is because "Chanbaek is real" and "Kaisoo is real". I know they are the two most popular ships in EXO, but really? How many couples do you think there are within EXO?

Tomorrow maybe Dispatch will reveal that Suho is dating some woman and people here might be all "NO this is 200% fake Suho is gay af did you see that one thing he did with Lay that one time?!!"  (fyi this is just a random example)

Like I agree that the Baekyeon thing was totally staged but it really shouldn't come down to disregarding every couple SM confirms, I don't believe dating within the same group occurs THAT often. And this is coming from a former Kaisoo shipper.

I know there are many who will disagree with me but I just had to say this.

 

 

I agree with this. I have my doubts that Jongin and Krystal are really dating - however, I did not adopt this opinion uninformed, or on the basis of Kaisoo being real. Believe me, I could probably give a whole spill as to why (without the direct involvement of Kaisoo) that I think Kaistal is staged - and I would have done so earlier - but I don't think that's the purpose of this thread, and my information would probably be irrelevent to the discussion topic. After all, a lot of my reasoning has little to do with Jongin's sexuality (although I do believe he isn't straight). I'll give one example (which I think has been mentioned here), and that is the infamous 2012 Insider Post, which predicted both Kaistal and Baekyeon. Call it a freak coincidence, but I feel as though it's all a little too convenient. Nonetheless, thank you for your post and I hope you know that not everyone is a shipping fanatic. 

[jiminie]

Jin is such a difficult call for me. he is VERY stereotypical and it makes you want to call him gay but then you dont want to fall into stereotypes but then again Jokwon and Heechul and Key all fit stereotypes and we have no problem being pretty damn positive that they're gay.

 

i think with Jin the problem is that he is not the social butterflies the others are and sticks mainly to his group and has no blatent examples of really being into men but i think he is.

 

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Edited June 10, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Yep I think the same. I feel like he didn't expect him saying it like that at all lol. It was risky. I really don't get people who think it was something ~planned or has been said "just to soften male fanbase". Like, what? Such things often cause controversies which is kind of really unnecessary... Well and nothing stopped him from agreeing about the "fans" part and leading the talk towards that direction - but nah. Lmao. Anyways, the best way to tell the truth without receiving the "damage" - to tell it as a joke. And he knew people would take it this way.

And well, Baekhyun ... 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Yep I think the same. I feel like he didn't expect him saying it like that at all lol. It was risky. I really don't get people who think it was something ~planned or has been said "just to soften male fanbase". Like, what? Such things often cause controversies which is kind of really unnecessary... Well and nothing stopped him from agreeing about the "fans" part and leading the talk towards that direction - but nah. Lmao. Anyways, the best way to tell the truth without receiving the "damage" - to tell it as a joke. And he knew people would take it this way.

And well, Baekhyun ... 

 

 

 

This is the original video that the screencap above is from, in case anyone was wondering. Sehun starts talking about it at around 1:00, and finishes at around 2:04. The dynamic between Baekhyun and Sehun is pretty interesting. 

Edited February 21, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

So, I like to think that I’m pretty discerning with my “evidence†and I hate to assume with a lack of evidence, so I hope the abundance of “I don’t knowâ€s is acceptable. So, since one person asked for it:

 

Here’s some of my thoughts on BTS:

 

Seokjin: Don’t know. He seems to treat everyone alike and I can’t think of any 1st degree examples of romantic or sexual attraction for him with anyone. He doesn’t seem to be affected in any way by his flirting with women and the only flirting I’ve seen him affected by is Namjoon’s, though this could purely be because he finds it funny/cute coming from him. The only instance I can point to is the time he answered “I'm not gay haha" @https://twitter.com/runchranda/status/414251063521181696 when a fan asked him about his relationship with Hyosang. Jin tends to jump to unexpected conclusions and give outrageous answers during fansigns (like he would want to be called “Charmander†by a future S.O. and gives the names of food dishes as words of encouragement/strength) so I think this was also a case of jumping to an unexpected conclusion. I don’t know what this says about his sexuality, but I feel like the fact that he would bring it up unprompted means he is probably relatively secure with it, whatever it is.

 

Yoongi: Either bi or gay and taking the safer route in expressing it with his gender neutral “ideal type†answers and tendency to bring up the “Gay Option†when available. I feel like there is some physical attraction to Jimin, but I don’t think it has been acted upon. I feel like Hoseok is the kind of person he would want to date given different circumstances (so we see something that looks like a crush treated as a joke between them) and has also not been acted upon. I identify most with Yoongi especially since I also suffer from social anxiety and have clearly seen some of its’ hallmarks in his behavior before he revealed it explicitly in his mixtape. I would be open to elaborating on this (as well as everything else).

 

Hoseok: He is a mystery and that’s why I bias him. He has a strong on-camera persona and we have heard on multiple occasions that there is another side to him that he keeps hidden underneath that. He seems like the most openly conscious of his public image yet he is a bad actor and you can sometimes tell when he is trying to stifle a reaction. I only have 2nd degree evidence of his attraction to women (Tinashe as his phone and computer wallpapers and Shim Euddeum on Star King), but nothing 1st degree. Although waacking (a dance style that he has shown familiarity with) has strong roots with vogueing, which itself has strong roots with gay POC culture in the US, I don’t know about that connection in Korea, so that’s weak evidence. I do believe that he has some attraction to men and there was a certain amount of reciprocation with the vhope crush, but I would still consider that headcanon at this point. (Full disclosure, I am a vhope trash, but I like to think that I keep a level of integrity in discerning what their "moments" mean, so I have a lot of thoughts on this as well).

 

Namjoon: He is the only member I have definitive proof of showing sexual interest in women (AHL MV filming), yet he is also the only one who has openly shown support for the LGBTQ community. He has lyric writing credits on Big Hit’s Glam’s song "XXO" (which is super gay) (and this relates to my “Big Hit’s Gay Agenda^TMâ€). I feel like his bisexuality (or at the very least, bi-curiosity) has something to do with his feelings of self acceptance. (Not to downplay clinical depression at all, I fully put forth that his depression could be a purely biological phenomenon or related to completely unrelated things, I just mean that his occasional words on self-acceptance could be related to this.)

 

Jimin: I agree with a lot of people who mention that his reaction to attention from others is much more noticeable than the attention he gives to others. This is difficult because I can only really recall him interacting with men or with his fans (which he will obviously lavishes with fanservice) other than that one time on Star King, though it’s hard to tell anything through his acting and embarrassment over his acting what his true feelings were there. His reaction to and mention of himself or other members “liking men†makes me think he is at least open to it, but that is a headcanon as of now.

 

Taehyung: The only one I feel sure of. I really think he’s gay. With Stigma and his interactions with Hoseok, his Hwarang hyungs, the high-heeled dancers on Star King, Heechul, etc, I think he’s gay and starting to overcome his traditional, country boy upbringing and embrace it. He certainly has a squishy/soft mode that I’ve only seen him go into with the aforementioned men (complete with his traditionally “unattractive†boxy smile), which I can elaborate on if anyone wants.

 

Jungkook: There are really only two major things I base my JK prediction on. On AHL, I do believe that his flustered state was, in part, affected by some attraction to the women he was talking to (although he was only 16, so anyone who has ever been a 16 y.o. boy can let me know how legit the “turned on by anything†myth is). Also, and more importantly, I think his avoidance of affection towards other guys was too excessive. Take his comment in Hoseok’s bday video (“Ahh~ I’m saying this [i love you] to a guyâ€), etc. may seem normal in an American perspective, but seems like it would be overly defensive in a Korean perspective? (please correct me if I’m wrong here). This is why I think JK may have some attraction to men and is becoming more comfortable with it as he gets older. This would explain why Jimin (and the others) found it amusing to tease him over this by showing him excessive amounts of affection in their earlier days.

 

So, like a lot of other people on this thread, a lot of the BTS members “ping†me and I have something of a master thesis on my theory of Bang PD/Big Hit’s Gay Agenda^TM that I think might explain it. I will surely share it here if it ever gets written up (if there’s any interest).

 

 

 

I tend to stan very few things, but I stan those few things very hard. I’m so obsessed with human behavior and social justice and pretty boys, how am I an adult with a job to go to in the morning? Why do I have so much more to say about every member? Who allowed this? Please send help

 

 

Thanks for your analysis. You raised some very interesting points, and I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on Bang PD, since he is obviously a heavy influence on the boys and the content of their music. 

Edited March 8, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

 

 

^ This guy either has a crush on Jimin or he really admires him. 

 

I was thinking the same thing. The episode airs tonight, but from what I noticed in the previews the guy (Choi Tae-Joon) seemed pretty flustered next to Jimin. 

Edited March 13, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Hello guys. What do you think about Jungkook? I see people speculate him as bisexual but I think he might be gay. I've been a fan since they debuted and his lack of interest in girls has always stood up for me. I want to know what someone else thinks. But I always think him as gay. 

 

To me, Jungkook seems bisexual. When I first became a fan of BTS, I used to hold that he was straight, but only because I'd never really noticed him show any attraction towards men. As time has gone on, I've observed more and now I definitely believe that he's bisexual. 

Edited April 11, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

I am not a Jimin stan so I don't really look at him much but those are the moments I can think of from top of my head.

http://kmusicandblackwomen.tumblr.com/post/107096195559/someone-help-me-understand (warning, this site automatically starts to plays music)

That time when GFriend members where walking past him and you could read from his lips "She is really pretty" (or smt like that), V followed up with "Why don't you ask her out?" aaaaand then they noticed camera. 

On ISAC Jimin ranked first on popularity among female idols. 

But to be honest I also always thought he is at least a little gay. >> 

 

Now I will ask. Does anyone else think BTS V is bi? 

Do you happen to have a clip of the GFriend moment? I'm just genuinely curious to see it as I've never even heard about the occurrence before. 

[jiminie]

I don't know if this has been mentioned here already, but everyone seems to be talking about Seokmin (DK from Seventeen) and NCT's Jaehyun. 
A little while ago, Seokmin claimed on a radio interview that he was too shy to approach Jaehyun as he was "too handsome". Here's the link:
 

 
A few days ago, Seventeen went on NCT's SBS radio show. There's honestly so much buzz on Twitter about Seokmin and Jaehyun since Seokmin seemed really shy on the show, especially towards Jaehyun. I don't know if there's any English translation yet but here are a couple of the Tweets: 
 
https://twitter.com/jaehyunsseus/status/869931131042385920
 
https://twitter.com/two_oh_teen/status/873215532190715904
 
Not sure if this is an indication of anything, but it's just a thought and something sweet to mention. 
 

 

 

 

[jiminie]

One thing that just made me smh was a fangirl's comment saying "the one who filmed was a guy, that's why jungkook found it weird and gave it attention". Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh that's not what someone would do if they found something "weird", honey. 

Exactly! Those comments were making me mad. Knowing Jungkook, if he felt uncomfortable or weirded-out he would probably look anywhere but the source of uncomfortableness, not gaze directly at it for two whole sets  . But whatever, they can keep reaching. 

Edited June 10, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

hell no 

he was practically giving soft/lowkey bedroom eyes to the camera. i guess that sounds more intense than i'm trying to say...but you could tell he liked it. it made him excited and he was obviously interested and more engaged in performing (for the fanboy).

 

honestly, as someone who used to stan the maknae of BTS very intensely for many years, he definitely enjoys attention from males.

I don't mean in a "he likes the attention of hyungs" way, bc he likes attention from males that are total strangers too 

 

he is similar to Taehyung. they react differently to males: Male coworkers, male fanboys, male idols, male staff, all that. they just seem to light up and they pay extra attention to them almost subconsciously...they get a very "little kid seeing a present on Christmas morning" vibe to them whenever they run into males, be it male coworkers on variety (like the time Jungk**k got the number of a male fitness trainer), male idols (him checking out GD), male fanboys (see fancams above), they just....treat them differently in a very sus way

 

it is clear that the maknae did not find it weird. seeing that it was a male made him perform extra well and specifically, performed for the camera/fanboy especially. 

 

I've never heard about the male fitness trainer, do you have anything on that? Just genuinely curious. 

 

Edit: Is this what you're talking about? https://twitter.com/jeonggukupdates/status/743446033326186498

Edited June 11, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

This may be an upopular opinion, but tbh I don't think any of them are 0s on the kinsey scale. Not to say they're all 6s, but they've all had suspect moments. Regardless, I don't think any of them would feel like they couldn't tell the others, or only Namjoon. Even if Namjoon's tweet about Same Love was the most explicit statement about lgbt support, the others have done plenty of casually supportive things.

 

Tae is constantly recommending gay musicians, artists, photographers, designers, and said "let's really do it" to a fanboy who asked him out.

 

Jungkook has also recommended several gay musicians (including kind of obscure ones), talks about Troye Sivan being his fave and wanting to work with him, and also said yes to a fanboy asking him out.

 

Hobi also loves Troye Sivan and had a Frank Ocean pic as his lockscreen for ages, and he's a big fan of Tinashe who is also openly bi. (We all know he's all over Jimin too, so there's that.)

 

I'm pretty sure Jin has recommended some gay musicians? He's also pretty gender non-conforming--wears a lot of pastel pink and talks about being pretty (not just handsome), and doesn't seem to mind playing "the girl role" or being called mom (I know it's heteronormative, but still). Oh, and wasn't there some story about him getting like ten roses for one Valentine's Day during high school even though he went to an all-boys school? I feel like Yoongi brought that up in some old interview, and Jin looked panicked. Anyone remember that?

 

Yoongi has his famous equal-opportunity Hong Kong lines and has talked at length about liking masc guys. Also, even though he's not one for fanservice, he gets surprisingly excited about anything gay happening between the other members, like shouting "ahhh boy crush!!" when Namjoon was talking about Jin, or this:

 

(JK too  )

Jimin hasn't done as many statement-y things, but we've all seen him highkey thirst over dudes and always has dick on the brain, so:

 

Also there was that time Jin licked a lollipop and Jimin immediately thought of blowjobs and said, "Reserve those kinds of jokes for BTS only."

 

So at least we know they're a group that feels comfortable enough to joke with each other about blowjobs??

Totally agree with everything you've mentioned. Also, you're right. Jin did attend an all-boys school and Yoongi did mention it in an interview. 

 

Here it is (moment begins at 11:12): 

 

 

 

I've never known for sure where exactly it was mentioned that Jin received roses, but I know that it's common knowledge in the fandom. There are some Tumblr posts on it if you search. 

Edited July 3, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

Where is this from?

[jiminie]

Nam Woohyun

Where is this from? 

[jiminie]

Infinite

I know, but do you know where from particularly? Like a LIVE or something? Or is it fake? It looks a bit sketchy.

Edited July 25, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

As a KaiSoo Fan and Follower, let me add my two cents.

I actually wanted to post an analysis for a while now, but I never had time, so don't expect too much.

 

The problem with the whole KaiSoo topic is, that since KxK was released, everybody in the fandom seems either to absolutely hate any discussion about Kaisoo, or laugh at it. So I'm trying to be as objective as I can, just as I was when I first looked into the whole topic around the mid of 2016.

 

The thing that most people don't consider when it comes to KaiSoo/KaDi is, that they are, just as you mentioned, the "behind the scenes" couple. A lot of the most suspicious moments happened indeed when they weren't aware that they were being filmed, predebut or while not being in "focus" of the camera.

 

 

 

 

I actually wanted to post another video, but it get's harder and harder to find, like most things considered "evidence" in this fandom, more on that later in this post.

 

But this one is also quit suspicious.

 

 

 

 

Of course, people could now say "It's only fanservice!" or "They are still aware of the cameras", but the thing is: Especially Kyungsoo isn't well known for doing a lot of fanservice (esp. the first few years of Exo), and Jongin is actually pretty - how should I put this? - grumpy (?) and quiet, once off the stage (by stage I also mean official events like Fanmeetings, V-Lives etc.). He is the definition of stereotype that isn't able to express himself in his normal life - resulting in becoming someone completely different on stage. When not on stage, you won't see the sexy beast he is while dancing. You won't see the smirk and the flirtyness. You will see quiet, introverted Kim Jongin. 

 

Another thing that should be considered in 2017 is that K- and I-ExoL are erasing things off the internet - And before you say "That's such a crackpot theory!" - it's not. Try finding the pictures of Kyungsoo shedding tears on the first of April 2016 in High Quality. Trust me, they were there, and now they are gone. Reverse Image Search - Gone. I have a bunch saved on my computer, but most of the "hot tea" in HQ was deleted, you can only find blurry pictures. Same with the Peter Pan Moment - there's only one blurry picture on the whole web. You can't tell me that one of the, if not THE, most popular ship(s) of one of the biggest groups in K-Pop, only has one blurry picture of a certain, unique moment on the world wide web.

Same goes for some other "behind the scenes moments" that were captured by accident (e.g. the video I wanted to post in the spoiler, that I personally only have the first half of somewhere in the depths of my computer, because the whole thing is seemingly not there anymore).

It's quite suspicious.

 

I honestly don't know whether KaiSoo ever was real or not, but I'm pretty sure that Jongin and Kyungsoo are NOT straight. They have or had, however you want to see it, a very deep friendship and a deep bond.

 

I'm not going to list any "proof" or "evidence" since that's reserved for the shipping thread. But I would like to ask everybody that disregards both of them instantly to look into it first, with a neutral view and without judgement. I would be very interested in hearing some neutral opinions about them.

 

I totally agree with you here. I know a lot of people in this thread have disregarded KaiSoo in the past, but even if you don't see them together romantically (which is perfectly fine), you have to admit that the media's treatment of them is quite suspicious. I hadn't really heard about this more recent censorship before, though. I'd be curious to know more.

 

 

Also, if you could somehow find the video you have saved and post it here, that would be much appreciated. I've heard about a lot of "behind the scenes" photos and videos that were quickly covered up and discarded. Although we're unsure of and can't prove the validity of KaiSoo, the pairing is somewhat interesting because I think it tells of them as individuals. And there's already a lot of suspicion that the two of them aren't straight.

 

Edited October 17, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

apparently the hotel they stayed in has rooms that literally have a glass wall between the bedroom and bathroom so you can see people shower etc from the bed............idk if thats one of the rooms they stayed in but................ok. ok

 

You're right, apparently this was the hotel room.

 

Click here to view the Tweet

 

 

Edited November 9, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

.................is that a double or single bed i can't see it properly 

 

I'm pretty sure it's a double bed. I can't find a clearer picture at the moment sorry. 

 

https://imgur.com/w0cFMXW

Edited November 9, 2017 by jiminie

[jiminie]

I'm not familiar with Wanna One so I don't know the members names, but I was watching a reaction video from last night's MMA's and I noticed one of the Wanna One members fanboying over Taehyung (at 2:50 in the video). Just thought it was cute. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnPvz-3u_lk

Edited December 2, 2017 by jiminie