jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Hi guys! I've been reading this thread for a while till now. Im 20 and Im a male. And I just wanted to give my opinion on this. First: Its not true that in Korea is normal for guys to kiss each other, touch their butts or hold their hands, actually also in Korea if you do that you're gay. - second The fact that this means you're just close friend is beacuse the Idea of being gay in korea is so weird and unrealistic that even if they see two guys kissing each other they yes that is gay, but also that since in korea gay guys dont exist they should be just friend.(like the closest friends ever seen) And gay people actually use this as a way to cover it, but always toning it down. - third, Fanservice is not Idols touching each other ecc... but the term refers to Idols hugging fans, blowing kisses to them, and staying with them. And all this gayness come out little by little, and since fans liked it they kept on doing it. you should not think that if They are kissing each Other they cant be gay since in korea its normal. Its not normal at all. and for all those people who really doubt, even a bit, people like Ren, Heechul, Key, Sungjong, Minwoo (100%),Minwoo (BF), Tao,Minsu, N,hansol,BamBam,Sehun, Amber, Zinni Ilhoon,No Minwoo, and many more. I dont even have words.... Yes, Its true that not all gay people are feminine, but almost all feminine people(to a certain grade),at least 90%, are gay as hell. And that's not the only thing that gives the vibe. They are just... I dont know,Just queer as hell. Im sorry for you girls who cant get it, but oppa wont be your Husband, nor mine. So just get your things Together. Even if someone shows you a video of them fucking you'll say they are just Close (CLOOOOOOOSE) friends who do a lot of fanservice. Ah, yes, Im gay too, of course! I also think Its easier to be gay as an Idol in Korea, You have plenty of hot mens around you, and even if you touch, kiss, hug them no one will suspect you since you're just doing "fanservice". Its so good. the bad thing is that since in Korea Family is everything and since korea is super conservative to protect yourseld you'll end up marrying a woman. just try to drag it as late as you can. For istance I think Sungmin is gay. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Welcome! Someone who mentions BamBam! It felt like I was the only one since no one talks about him much Why is it that you think BamBam is obviously gay/bi/pan? It'd be interesting to hear your opinion I actually think so from the first time I've seen him. It's so funny how he tries so hard to be manly when he's not. Just give him a chance and he'll show all his gayness at once. And it's easy to recognize him. For example I think jackson is gay, but I still doubt it. Actually he's so gay that I dont know if he really is. Maybe he tries to tell that he's gay, just because for him is normal, but I dont really know. For the rest of the members I dont know. Like JB and Youngjae looks so much like a couple. Like they dont do nothing with the others but just by themselves. Still I dont know. For what regards Minwoo of boyfriend is so Obvious that he is. It doesnt need examples. If we were in the west you woudnt doubt it even a bit. Here is almost the same. of course there are some that could be or not. But some of them are of course gay. Sorry for my english guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I don't think this reflects on anybody's sexuality at all, but Jackson got confused when asked which member would have the prettiest wife, and apparently thought the question was about which member would make a pretty wife I've seen it. ahahhaha Jackson is so hard to get. I mean, As I've said before, He's so gay that I dont know if he really is. Damn this boy! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 That was soooooooo Like, He was literally fu**ing him against the wall!!!!! Sorry if i'm a bit vulgar, but when this come out I couldnt resist, Like, Eric and Jimin were so embarassed ohohoho 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I suggets to everybody to watch the episode! I tried to twitt but It didnt come out :( Anyway That episode is GOLD! Yes Mark saying GUYS! OHOHOH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) what's with all this "Bromance"? If there is some bromance and you like it, the fact that you like it means that ....... I asked a korean blogger what he tought about the skinship and everything and he told me that the companies dont interfer with that, and that there are no companies that push the idols to do it. And that fanservice doesnt involve when they are touchy like sitting and holding hands or arms ecc...fanservice is just like on stage when they hug, or the kissing game. but when they are together and start gaying is not fanservice. is just how they are. I Think in BTS Jin doesnt really need speculation. J-hope can be gay, V too. Jimin is just so sexual in everything he does, even when he's just staying still, so I really dont know *.* Edited February 13, 2015 by jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 When spotting the gay one, K-pop presents a unique set of problems. Actually the gay one is the one behind this two that are gaying in the front! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 How About ✔Ⓘ✖✖? You all know they are havin a comeback right? For me N and Ken Are for sure ⦿⌣⦿ I'm pretty sure Hyuk is gay too, Then there is Leo,Binnie,and Ravi that are a bit hard to read! If I have to be honest, I would say that Ravi for me is too, But I dont know if in a group there could be so many gay people. Anyway,You never know, That could happen too ⤠Guys Tell me you opinion on them, I'm Curoissss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Tbh Ken doesn't ping me at all... He seems totally straight to me. N... Yeah, I think he's gay too, or at least bi. Ravi feels pretty much like Rap Monster to me... Friendly towards LGBT but most likely straight. Maybe bi-curious. Leo is one huge question mark, I really can't sense him at all. Hongbin... He's the type that would get married early if he wasn't an Idol... He seems to me to be pretty much like Nam Taehyun... Deep in the closet, never coming out. So maybe he's gay but doesn't acknowldge that himself? Hyuk is hard too. I'd say straight actually, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's bi or at least bi-curious... But I still think he has a strong preference for girls. Don't take my guesses much into consideration though cause I don't know Vixx that much. I've watched like everything of them, And I'm pretty sure len is.I'll give some examples if I find some material. Thanks for your answer ♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) I'd say he said "GUYS",and then, when he got aware of the answer, he said stop dont do this.But the first "guys" looked totally like an answer to me. Edited February 14, 2015 by jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Like a while ago I've seen Kwanghee saying he's looking for a girlfriend. I dont think that he's gay anymore. how could he be gay when he said GF? If he was gay he would have said BF and ruin his image, his group, cut all the ties with his family and everything and live alone in Itaewon with all the other emarginated openly gay people! YES,That's definetely what he should have done! 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'm gay, and of course I have my gaydar that works really good. I'v always found out about gay people by just looking at them a bit, even if the other girls kept trying hittin on them I knew they were and I was always right. There are some people that I know for sure are gay, I'm sorry but they cant be other way. Then there are some that are a bit hard to read. I Think I'm one of them, I dont really show that I'm gay. Maybe gay people could understand but other never knew I'm gay. If I onlu had like 10 minutes with some idols in the same room with other people I with instantly know who is probably(Soooo probably) gay and who is not! Anyway my Gaydar never betrayee me since now. the fact that there are a few gay people out there made the need to be able to recognize them. I think thats why. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Oh I didn't know that... it's weird if it's scientifically proven but people still think it's not real It's scientifically proven that evolution is real, but many people still think of creationism as the true one! That's the same 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Gaydar is generally instant. Studies have shown that having more time doesn't make guesses more accurate. It's best to just trust your first instinct. I'd be interested in your list of who you think is gay in Kpop though tbh Yes, I said "I would instantly know". Sometimes Just by the face....More than the face, the expression of it...I dont know it's just that you know it. If I have to list them I'd go with the one that are for sure: Heechul,Key,Jokwon,Sungjong,Minwoo(100%), Hansol,Kwanghee,Jin,Sehun,Tao,Brian joo,Ilhoon,Kevin,Ren,chunji. This are the ones that I dont doubt anymore....I'm sorry if I might hurt someone, But They are definitely queers, Get over it. The one I doubt: B2ST: Dongwoon, Yoseob(I dont know how people can think he is straight. If you follow them since debut, you'd knwo he is probably gay, but during th last 2 years(More or less) he has really changed, trying to get a more masculine image, and to be manly, but he sometimes still act a bit gay. I think he's trying hard to look straight thinking that being manly is the right way. And I doubt Junhyung( maybe he is just open minded) 100% : Minwoo, Rockhyun, Changbum Got7: Bambam, jackson. ( I love the 2jae btw) since Youngjae is my bias, I think they love eachother, but they dont like to show it. Teentop: Chunji, L.joe and ricky Toppdogg: B-joo, Hansol,Xero, Kidoh,A-tom. Btob: Ilhoon and Sungjae.(maybe Minhyuk) Mblaq: Lee joon I think there are actally so many gay people, we knwo that more gay people get attracted by art and ecc...It's still a stereotype but I think it's kinda true. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) So you're just gonna say that something is a science, but when asked to back up your own opinion, you ignore it? CACKLING. You sound real sure of yourself. Regina, first of all, I didnt say that It is scientifically proven, I just answered to the question "How can something that is proven still dont be acknowledged?". And second, even if it's not, it works most of the time. At least for me. Edited February 17, 2015 by jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Don't worry about her tbh. She hates the idea of oppa being gay and has to make sure we remember that we're all delusional losers once in a while I'd appreciate it if you didn't call them queers, just saying.... Anyway, interesting list. Sorry, Since a lot of gay sites are called "Queer", I thought it was a legit term. Is it offensive? Because I'm not from an english speaking country, I just learned it through Kpop shows and dramas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 For once, I kinda agree with Regina. This thread is interesting but I think some are getting a little carried away and act like someone's sexuality is a fact if you used your 'gaydar'. Some people aren't even sure of their own sexuality, so how can you be sure of someone else sexuality by just watching them? (Sometimes, you can be right, ofc) Like, sorry jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy, but "They are definitely queers, Get over it"... Don't put those things as fact. That's just your POV. The thread's name is : Which male idols do you think are gay" so it's just a pov, not a fact. How can you think, for examples, that Ren is straight? He IS gay, His mannerism, his attitude, Have you seen his instagram? Born this way, Pink Unicorns, And the fact that since he was forced to change his image in a more manly one he became a bit depressed, not like he was before. Heechul is not? Sorry if I kinda "Stated", But at least for me they are. I know this is all speculation but some of them cant be denied 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never said he was straight. For me he's gay. But that's for me do you get this? I'm just asking you to not state it as fact. It's your pov. And no double-post, please. Okay,okay, Got it. Sorry >_< But I dont think I have double posted. Do I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's just that if I want to reply two posts from two different pages I dont know how to multiquote. That's why I reply in different posts. next time I'lI answer in just one. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Why do you keep talking about appearance? You're just proving my point that gaydar is NOT intuition. You are relying on the other person to give you hints about their sexuality, in the form of their attire, hair style, mannerisms, speech, etc. How is this YOU using some kind of a skill or innate power to sniff out someone's orientation? Following your own description, the signs are right in front of you. Following your own logic again, anyone can possess gaydar. But the biggest blunder you're making is the lack of understanding how gaydar can't possibly be seen as accurate or even a real thing because APPEARANCE AND BEHAVIOR HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUAL ORIENTATION. And I'm still waiting for that evidence of gaydar being scientifically proven. If you're not a gay person It's hard to understand.we are not saying that if this guy has blue hair then he is gay. By appearence we mean the body language (San E). It gives signals. I'm not saying that gaydar is some sort of magical power, it's just the intuition that someone is gay because you know how someome like you would act or do. I was once in a club, and there was this guy with a two girsl around him. When I saw his gaze, I instantly knew he was gay. Still I didnt do anything. When my gay friend arrived he told that that guy is gay and he once saw him kissing one of his friends (a boy). I didnt know he was, there were girls around him. But I somehow knew it when I saw him. Ofc we can be wrong sometimes, but we are also right many times. sorry if I double posted again, but answered before the regina message come out. I tries to delete one, and copy and paste but it didnt worked *.* Edited February 17, 2015 by jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 yeah, idk why but i've always gotten lesbian vibes from her. she seems very delicate and fragile and like she likes other delicate girls.. i can't even really explain it too well. hyomin just pings me bc.. . i don't even know why. as for the other idols... cl - straight but down for anything min - bi/pan taeyeon - straight like lbr... if she does like girls she's bi and male leaning hyoyeon - straight sunny - bi bomi - lesbian god bless seohyun - ace? or at least not overtly sexual choa - straight but i hope she swerves on me Actually I've always tought of Choa as lesbian. Bomi too. She pings too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I just felt bad because I think I created an argument/fight in here. Sorry everyone pq But anyway, I think gaydar does exist because I do know someone who can tell when someone is gay and then he ends up being right.. it's regina that cant stop herself from trying to make us feel as some stupid gay people that try to make everyone gay in this world. No, It's definetely not your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) this drama is tiring some distraction for you: jackson and kangjoon OHHHH My feels ♥ What do you think about Jackson and youngji? Cuz jackson around her act just like I act around my best friend( a girl friend) While around joon.... ehehhehehe anyway I love the jackji since Kara are my Favourite group /KAMILIA JJANG/ Edited February 18, 2015 by jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 http://www.salon.com/2012/01/22/the_invention_of_the_heterosexual/ the invention of the heterosexual. the history of straightness is much shorter than you'd think. Lol, we are not the ones who need to read this. The homophobic people need it, the one who justify everything with"nature has always been a man and a woman", so that's how it should be, when they know nothing! At least they should study history a bit, and know how thing were before,instead of just stating things. Stupid people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbuttmakesmecrazy 505 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yes true, gender roles can be non-existent but femininity and masculinity can still exist. They are not the same, as Hanryu said earlier. I don't really understand why you are mad (being hostile with me?) or what you are saying either.. just that it seemed like you were saying femininity and masculinity doesn't exist but they do exist. There's nothing wrong with it.. I was using "feminine gay, masculine gay" as an example ^^ I think It's true that most gay people are not feminine at all, and here the stereotype fall. But when we talk about feminine guys, almost 90% are gay! If she knows A LOT of feminine guys straight than I'm sure some of them must be in the closet! Because, I'm sorry, but being feminine is a trait that comes often along with being gay, and there's nothing wrong with it.Maybe she means that we cannot say feminine and masculine because these are just terms and both genders can br both, so they do not belong to man or woman. But still we refers to this traits with these terms so they DO exists 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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