Which male idols do you think are gay?

[Sonia82753340]

Hello everyone,

I introduce myself : I'm French. Recently (a few month), I discovered the Yunjae couple and I fell in love with them. So, i was a Yunjae Shipper but not anymore. However, Jaejoong is my bias and i'm still very curious about Yunho's sexual orientation.

Regarding Jaejoong, from the beginning,  I was a lot of doubt about on the fact that he was gay, but i was not sure. But after readding Kremlindust analysis and everything that followed after (Jaejoong jocking about the fact being gay, etc.) I am 99% sure that Jaejoong is gay.

Concerning Yunho, At first I was expecting that he was maybe bi or straight. But after reading this topic, I was convinced that he was undoubtedly gay. Why ?

1) because of  the way he's been behaving with others guys (hug by the back with Jaejoong and Donghae, and maybe many others ?  Also, he often likes hold hands with men, i saw many videos where he was very affectionate with man)

2) because of the fact that not have a girlfriend doesn't seem to disturb him (cf, interview with Changmin when Yunho said that he prefers see his friends after work, rather than  finding a girlfriend)

3) because of the way of he dancing (there is many many gifts where we can see that). Damn, his dance moves seems SO gay !

4) because he always seems uninterested in any woman (i saw many videos which seems to confirm this)

But, despite all these facts, I recently have doubt about Yunho's sexual orientation, and i'm not sure anymore that he is gay, because of his scandal that appears in 2021 when he was discovered in a bar with women.

Yunho said once that his ideal type was an actrice (i don't remeber her name, sorry) and that he saw her movies more 50 times (he seemed to really love her !) Also, Yunho often stated that when he is in love with a women, he reacts in a cold way and refuses to show  his interest or his feelings before knowing the woman well. So, it's possible that in first side, Yunho seems to be uninterested by women but in reality, that's not the case, it's just that he doesn't like show his feelings.

More ever, i heard that the skinship is very well accepted with men, but not with women, and Yunho said many times that he didn't want  scandal . That's why Yunho is so discreet about his private life.

 But finally, I wonder why Yunho is still not married despite his age, if he is bi or straight ?

Do you have any other views about Yunho's sexual orientation ? 

Are there still Jaejoong or Yunho shipper here?

Thank you for reading me

 

 

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14 hours ago, M814 said:

TVXQ's Yunho? The one that got caught at a brothel during the pandemic and tried to flee the scene when the police barged in?

Yeah, I don't think he's gay... 

 

 

Yeah, that's him.

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11 hours ago, LostChild said:

Hi.

I think you should use the word sexual orientation instead of gender orientation. Gender identity and sexual identity are two different topics and it could lead to confusion. I'm not a native English speaker either so it's really normal for us to make mistakes though !

As for DBSK, you said you discovered them only a few months ago and I think that could explain your doubts. People who have been Kpop fans for some time know that SM Entertainment has a habit of creating pairings inside their groups to boost fans' support/interest and they create many contents around those pairings. I'm sure you already know about the drama DBSK filmed where Yunho and Jaejoong had a sort of romantic storyline ? So yeah, it's very hard for me to believe any ship from SM is genuine because they're kinda known for ship fanservice between members in Kpop. Other Kpop companies also push ships but I don't think it's done as strongly as in SM groups (with perhaps the exception of Big Hit's boygroups).

Now, about Yunho and Jaejoong as individuals, I do believe Jaejoong is probably not straight.

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Who is Kremlindust by the way ? I'd like to read what they wrote on him.

But as someone else already said above, I don't think Yunho is gay. His room salon scandal is honestly the only proof you need.

. Same for the preferring to hang out with friends than finding a girlfriend answer, most idols (regardless of their actual sexual orientation) tend to avoid discussing that topic because of their possessive fans.

About the way he dances, maybe it's just me but mannerisms alone aren't enough evidence. I mean, many on this thread used to believe Joshua from Seventeen was gay because of his demeanor alone and he turned out to have a girlfriend.

I agree that Yunho looking "uninterested" in women could be just him not showing his feelings. Also, again he's an idol and it's kinda their job to act devoted to fans and he knows some fans wouldn't like for him to flirt with girls publicly.

Finally, being married or not at his age is also not that relevant. Many 2nd gen idols still aren't married yet, including the ones who are in known longterm relationships with the opposite sex (like Sooyoung from SNSD and Jessica Jung). It could be that Yunho didn't marry because of his career or monetary reasons, who knows.

Hi !

Thank you very much for your reply. I edited my post. But in the english dictionnary, they define it this way, that's why i was used the words "orientation gender rather than sexual orientation". Anyway, what also made me feel out about Yunho’s sexual orientation was his reactions when we discussed the "gay" subject during the interviews. He panics quite easily when he is suspected of being gay, which is quite disconcerting. I remember a video interview with Shangmin where the interviewer asked if the girls interested him, and he seemed very embarassed and nervous, like he had to hide something. And there is an another interview where he said that he is sentimental, but he is Manly also. I find this answer a quite weird, why add the fact that he is "manly" ? Like we can easily doubt of that...So this gives us the impression he often seems insecure about his sexuality.

 

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About the way he dances, maybe it's just me but mannerisms alone aren't enough evidence. I mean, many on this thread used to believe Joshua from Seventeen was gay because of his demeanor alone and he turned out to have a girlfriend.

I agree with that. I know others Kpop star that dance in the gay way, but  despite that they are straight. So, it doesn't prove something.

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Finally, being married or not at his age is also not that relevant. Many 2nd gen idols still aren't married yet, including the ones who are in known longterm relationships with the opposite sex (like Sooyoung from SNSD and Jessica Jung). It could be that Yunho didn't marry because of his career or monetary reasons, who knows.

I didn't Know that, but make sense.

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Who is Kremlindust by the way ? I'd like to read what they wrote on him

Does Jaejoong is your bias too ? May I ask what makes you think Jaejoong is gay?

Kremlindust was a old member of that topic, she did a remarkable analysis of Jaejoong. Personally, it had completely convinced me that Jaejoong is most likely gay. I give you the page where you can read her analysis (it extends over 5 pages!). Enjoy it!

https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page/65/#comment-687097

 

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4 hours ago, LostChild said:

You're welcome !

I have to say I didn't watch those videos so I can't comment on that. About Yunho emphasizing that he's manly despite being sensitive, I don't really see it as something pointing out to being LGBT because many straight guys have a fragile masculinity and fear being perceived as weak so they tend to overcompensate with a "manly" attitude.

Tbh I don't have a bias in DBSK/JYJ as I never actually stanned them, I just enjoyed their music and watched some of their variety stuff. But I do like Junsu's voice the most in DBSK/JYJ.

It's just several things about Jaejoong through the years : his old friendship with Hong Seok Cheon, that predebut picture of him kissing a guy, his cover of a song by a Japanese gay singer (and I think the song was written for his lover), etc. Also, I know it's not a great explanation but it's really just vibes. Though I'm not 100% sure Jaejoong is gay since he did have dating rumors with women and since in that infamous recording of him hitting sasaeng he's complaining about not being able to get a girlfriend because of their harassment. But I think he's probably at least bisexual.

Oh I didn't know that user, looks like she did a whole study on him lol. Thank you very much for the link, I'll read that later !

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I have to say I didn't watch those videos so I can't comment on that.

It was posted on the topic, but i'm to lazy to find it, lol.

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because many straight guys have a fragile masculinity and fear being perceived as weak so they tend to overcompensate with a "manly" attitude.

So many, really ?

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I'm not 100% sure Jaejoong is gay since he did have dating rumors with women

Jaejoong admit several times he had many relations ship with girls celebrity in the past, and i don't think he lied. Also, does that means he isnt gay ? I don't think so. I heard several stories about gay men who accepted  the fact of being gay, but who decided despite that to get married and build a life with a woman because it was the easier way. In my country (where gay man are globally well accepted), there is a known celebrity who is gay, he was married to a women for nine years, he was in love and happy with her but he said his relation couldn't last much longer because he was gay, (so he could'nt hide his attraction for men anymore). Recently, he stated  he was very sad to see that he is gay, because he thinks  having a serious relationship is more complicated when you’re gay than when you’re not. So, for me, being gay is not incompatible with dating with women.

I think Jaejoong try many times to build a serious relationship with a woman, but for unkown reason, it never worked. Maybe simply because he is gay ? Lol.

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that infamous recording of him hitting sasaeng he's complaining about not being able to get a girlfriend because of their harassment

I heard about that as well. But this prove anything for me... I cannot see Jaejoong said to his stalkers : "because of you, i cannot have a  boyfriend !"  Com'on !

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that predebut picture of him kissing a guy

It was real ? I was thinking it was photoshoped.

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It's just several things about Jaejoong through the years : his old friendship with Hong Seok Cheon, that predebut picture of him kissing a guy, his cover of a song by a Japanese gay singer (and I think the song was written for his lover), etc. Also, I know it's not a great explanation but it's really just vibes.

Yes, and i will add to all this : I always saw Jaejoong blush when he was in the presence of men who please him, but never with women.

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Oh I didn't know that user, looks like she did a whole study on him lol. Thank you very much for the link, I'll read that later !

Really, I think she did a very good job ! You're welcome

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22 hours ago, Moodz said:

TVXQ debuted before I was born and people are still discussing which members like dick

Hahahaha !

Love your GIF, because i think it represents recents Yunjae shipper. Like, we go to the party after it finished 13 years earlier

But, TVXQ is still active, so for TVXQ fan, it's not weird.

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20 hours ago, LostChild said:

About the way he dances, maybe it's just me but mannerisms alone aren't enough evidence. I mean, many on this thread used to believe Joshua from Seventeen was gay because of his demeanor alone and he turned out to have a girlfriend.

But, there is something here, don't you think ?

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I'm jocking ! I know it doesn't prove anything about sexual orientation, but still, I find those GIF so funny !

 

 

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2 hours ago, honeymoon said:

you saw yunho’s massive boner and bulge on stage and wanted him gay real bad its okay bud i’ve been there (not yunho)

 

It's really difficult to understand your words (I’m not English, sorry). Which Yunho are you talking about ? From Ateez or tvxq ?

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15 hours ago, LostChild said:

 

 Hello !

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I didn't say it means he can't be gay but another simple possibility would be that he's perhaps bisexual. If a male celebrity dates women and also seems to show interest in guys or implies he's not straight, I won't immediately jump to bi-erasure and conclude he's a gay guy who chose the "easy way" because I don't know him personally.

You're right, Jaejoong could also be bisexual or even straight, (but i'm very doubtfoul about straight) who really knows ? We cannot be sure, especially if we rely only on this fact.

I said i had read some testimonials of gay men revealing they had chosen "the easy way"...not that was Jaejoong's case. All of this topic is just guesses, opinions. Because of course we're not in Jaejoong's body, so we cannot know his sexual orientation. Unless he make a public statement about it, we can only assume. 

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We don't know him personally. We can't know if he ever had a serious relationship with a man either so maybe it's not about sexuality but other things related to his work in the music industry or personality.

Again, it's just a guess, not the truth. I may be wrong and you may be right. We cannot know, you're right.

 

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Or he could just not bring that up ? He's the one who brought up the dating topic, not the sasaengs

If not being able to date someone really bothered him because of sasaengs, I can understand that he brought up the dating topic himself. Make sense to me.

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Tbh even the celebrity you're referring to (is that Pierre Palmade ?) sounds like a bisexual man with preference for men who divorced his wife because he didn't want to keep cheating on her.

Yes, it's him. He could be bisexual, but that's him that used the word "gay"

 

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She's a bit biased because she ships (shipped ?) Yunjae

So for you, just shipped Yunjae inevitably makes her analysis biased ?

I don't think she shipped Yunjae, but she said that it was impossible to know well Jaejoong without knowing Yunjae, because it was a part of his life. But i don't think she was a delulu Yunjae. Personnally, i find her analysis on the contrary very neutral because she tried to remain as factual as possible.

 

I love to talk about Jaejoong or Yunho from tvxq, so thank you for your reply !

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13 hours ago, tsukiii said:

Personally, I think Yunho is very likely gay. I accept that I could be wrong, but there is something about him that draws me towards that conclusion. Even though he had his recent scandal with the brothel, I legitimately think he may have been telling something approaching the truth about his reason for being there. I, as a gay man, have found myself in places I normally wouldn't go to for my friends. No, I do not wish to elaborate on the latter point.

 

As for who I think is gay in k-pop, I'll just list who has my attention.

• Shinee - Key; Minho has been giving me a few raised eyebrows lately.
• Wonho.
• ATEEZ - San, Hongjoong; I'm not entirely sure about the others, but I do feel something about Mingi
• Super Junior - Donghae; Heechul is a special case, being that he could in fact be gay but he could also be that special type of Asian pretty-boy who is (was, in his case- he has admitted as much), extremely narcisstic and used his looks to get things from other people.
• EXO - Sehun; I'm unsure about the rest; it's funny though because people used to swear up and down Baekhyun was gay back in the day.
• TxT - I've only recently started to listen to them, but Soobin right away felt he might be.
• TVXQ - Yunho; as I've said before, I'm aware of his previous scandal but I still have a strong belief he might be.
• OnlyOneOf - it might be hard to tell since they've strongly adopted the BL concept, but I think Rie and Yoojung probably are; the other two that I feel could be are Nine and KB.

I used to listen to/follow a few other boy groups in the past but I haven't really kept up with them. Groups like BEAST/Highlight (Gikwang was incredibly popular among other gay men), VIXX (I'm surprised people think Leo is gay, maybe some things have happened in the years since), Got7, and a few others. Anyway, those were who I thought may be gay. I certainly could be wrong.

I was thinking Yunho was gay as well, but after the scandal, I'm not sure anymore. Why we can't believe he was there for women and that he can be at least, bisexual ?

May I ask you  what makes you think Yunho is gay? 

Oh, also, please tell me who is the person on your avatar. He seems so cute ! 

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On 9/14/2023 at 2:33 AM, tsukiii said:

I'm not sure who Jiwoong is or his show, if you could tell me about it, please. But yes, Gikwang was quite popular among gay men before. I'm not sure how popular he is now, but one of my Korean friends I was talking to said that Gikwang (and I paraphrase) "was prominent in his teenage dreams". It's because he embodied a lot of traits gay men are typically attracted to- youthful, pretty face with a muscular body.

I can't quite remember most of what made me think it. It has been some years since I really paid attention to him and I've honestly forgotten most of it. All I can say now is that he just has that...something. Sorry I don't have anything more tangible than that.

 

Sure thing. It's Jinyoung from Got7. I was planning on changing it, actually. Lol

Thank's for your reply ! Yes, he is cute.