Lillya 821 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Ah… lmao, so awkward… even the woman in the broadcast watching him talk seems to flinch when he corrects himself. Well, I hope you enjoyed this foray into the thoughts/discussions Koreans fans have on their blogs… I found it really interesting, lmao. Personally I think Jiyong is queer, but I don’t know what to make of these Freudian slips… they seem way too obvious. ------- I don't like how the fans are calling it gay nonsense, but I do find this really interesting. Thanks for detailed analysis!. I've always thought G-Dragon was queer. He's been sending those messages, like those man and woman on his bed sheets, and many more. But first, I was thinking more that he was bisexual. During an interview (sorry, no link) BigBang was asked (as usual) who dates the most in the band, and they usually say SeungRi but they also mentioned that, at first, GD was the No.1 playboy among them but then little SeungRi grew up. There was also this show (Come to Play?) Again, can't remember, some time in 2012 where they talked a lot about GD's dating life, and how he's such a gentleman. And a noona mentioned that she'd known him for a long time, and could tell many stories about him and girls. That all sounded pretty legit. BUT! Now, I'm thinking more and more that G-Dragon is gay. And those shows and interviews were probably orchestrated to dispel gay rumors around him. We'll never know but it's very likely that, at first, he dated girls, too, while figuring his sexuality in his teens. He seems to be popular with both men and women in the industry. Now, this Epic Slip, "a husband..." GD, I hope you'll find a great husband and manage to be happy and stay true to yourself even in SK. Another thing. I think he might be gender-queer. That's a vague and controversial term but I can't come up with anything better. As I understand, it's about someone who's not interested in physically alternating their sex but doesn't necessarily feel as a man or a woman, gender-wise. Like, he's a man but he's interested in exploring what it feels like to be a woman, or to have a kind of gender beyond "man-woman" dichotomy. Srsly, he's too good at playing with that! That may be his thing, gay (as in 'being into men') -- and gender-queer. Like a sexy lady Like a butch-type lesbian (?) Uh, sorry for the long-ish post.... Edited December 28, 2013 by Lillya 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) they're probably just friends now , I mean it's hard to go back to how they were especially when they don't meet often now (IMO) also jaejoong frequently visits the bar in which Yunho is a VIP member so they probably meet each other there sometimes I can't believe I closely missed the return of Yunjae discussion into this thread! Still, my five cents... What was between them, judging from the videos, was precious, like, real love. All those glances, and small things, and couple rings. Much more than just an affair. A lovely sentimental couple. Jaejoong is not into marriage but seems he felt like marrying Yunho at some point. At some point, things were serious. There was that album, and some interview instances. Too sad it's next to impossible in SK... - Also, think about it. Being in a relationship and working together is tough. Could be tough enough even for a non-celebrity, heteronormative couple. And, as idols, Yunjae were together 24/7. Too intense... No privacy. Managers and all the off-stage crew would defs know, no way to hide. And showbiz is tight and VERY gossipy. As idols, they absolutely had men and women just wanting to have sex with them because of their fame. A big challenge to a relationship, as well. On top of that, they were under pressure of being a gay couple. Getting caught would ruin them. Very likely, feeling guilty toward their families, even if their parents didn't know "officially" (especially, Yunho) Feeling guilty about mixing work and personal life, complicating things for the band. No surprise they fought a lot and broke up!!! That was probably SO intense. WAY TOO many challenges for a relationship to last. I am not sure how they are now but I am always amazed that Yunho and Jaejoong managed to keep that going for quite a while and were so sweet to each other. Very poignant... Edited January 3, 2014 by Lillya 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think that they weren't fights that led to the break up Nah, I didn't mean that the band broke because of Yunjae. Their personal break just added to the huuuuge pile and made all that so much worse, for everyone, and especially for Yunho and Jaejoong. They even look like they aged the most among the five since the break. Yunho looked like a model, so gorgeous, back in 2007-2009, and now he is still a good-looking man, but looks a bit older than his age. It's especially noticeable when he wears no make-up. Jaejoong used to look like an anime boy back then, and now he looks like a vampire (maybe an anime vampire? LOL) Looking at his photos before 2011, it's incredible how healthy he looked, compared to now. Anyways, the worst times are in the past.. They all are doing their own great things now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Did anyone talk about the GD x Kiko dating scandal yet? Apparently Seungri confirmed it? or am I just confused? Yes! It's practically official now that Seungri confirmed it. There's a thread about it somewhere here. I still don't think that GD is straight. So, maybe he's bi, after all? I saw some posts a few pages back that GD is gay in denial, hiding behind his own self-professed bisexuality idea. I'm very interested, what do people think now? Is this real? Or, is Kiko his official beard or smth? In any case, it's amusing that she also has an androgynous side to her: Edited January 6, 2014 by Lillya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 They used to date, but I think they're just friends now and people just like to assume they're still together because they're opposite sex friends who hang out with each other, 'cause we all know it's impossible for two people of the opposite sex to be friends lol Then, question. Why did Seungri like the twit in support of this relationship 'now'? http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/39786-lord-seungri-confirms-gd-kikos-relationship/ Seems legit to me. Not a YG statement but as close as you can get to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 GD's pose here looks pretty gay. The fact that he's advertising purses or handbags doesn't even strike me as gay, just his pose. Actually since I first got into K-pop and saw BIGBANG I immediatley got a big vibe from G-Dragon. Something about his mannerisms and way of speaking pinged my gaydar really hard. The funny thing is that he seems to try so hard to have this "player" and "ladies man" image and I just don't buy it at all. I love the link! Generally, been there, discussed that... "Ladies' man" goes as kudos for hetero-norm. What else can he have as a public persona in South Korea? And one can be gay and a player, all right... Who knows... Maybe he IS a player. Yep, he used to be shy and sweet, but everyone starts their love life being an inexperienced shy teenager. It would be weird if he stayed "innocent" and didn't change after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Now that he's going on WGM we all know once and for all that hyung is straight, so he has nothing to worry about anymore and can be as lovey dovey with his totally straight bro-friend as he wants Heechul manages to do big "F-U Korea - I'm gay" again and again and still stay afloat and popular. Luv him for that. The best troll in Kpop. Trolls so fat that it's thin. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Lol yeah, except Tao is clueless as fuck and doesn't know what he's doing half of the time xD Oh and, he's no where as confident as Heechul is. But I do agree both are extremely blunt and honest. Clueless and honest, and not very confident, sounds more like Jaejoong, to me. Heechul has always been confident and laid-back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Oh boy, call me an outdated person but what's a Cartier shop, a well-known jewellery shop? Cartier is a popular jewelry shop. It's also where Tao got this bracelet: Taohun went to a Cartier shop today... My life is complete Nah, no one's outdated... on the contrary, some fans have not been around for long enough. The point is more than just "couple stuff". Yunjae are famous for 'always' wearing different couple rings from Cartier. Yunjae and Cartier - always together. Jaejoong loves rings, and really prefers Cartier. And seems like Yunho wears rings ONLY from Cartier, ever. http://ndoroganjenfesyen.blogspot.com/2012/04/yunjae-couple-rings.html Oh, such a sentimental married couple! This evidence converted so many into "Yunjae-is/was-real" shippers. Who knows, maybe Kpop and SM seriously need new Yunjae. TaoHun are really aiming at that spot recently, it seems. "Kpop's most famous shipping/gay couple". Edited January 31, 2014 by Lillya 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 All the recent discussions on older idols have been super interesting and inspired me to make this. Kpop and Coming-out Feel free to add and modify 32 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) You mean this Changmin? oh the struggle Yay! The inner dynamic in DB5K! Riding my hobby-horse. My imho Changmin analysis. A fact. Many people once agreed on the show that Changmin is the band's biggest playboy. [media= ][/media] Begins at 5:05 and all the way to the end. I have a feeling it's all true about Changmin being the one most interested in girls, among all 5 members. Jaejoong and Yunho comment on Changmin's and Yoochun's womanizing habits. The gay members give an unbiased perspective on the straight members. Priceless! All this show was really great, funny and as honest as you can get with idols. On the side note, all five guys look gorgeous - and rested here. Maybe, that was one of the rare cases when they got enough time to rest before their TV appearance. Also, that was after they conquered Japan and returned to Korea as real heroes. One of their best shows ever made. More than that, Changmin LOVES flirting with girls. He gets excited when he gets a chance to do that on the shows. So smooth! He implies that he dates a lot of girls, and I believe him. Even if he ever experimented with guys (what do I know...), you can't fake such attraction to women. Changmin is NOT gay. I'm sure Changmin is very LGBT-friengly. C'mon, he probably heard tonnes of gay talk, and gay guys in the industry probably hit on him at some point, before he had his reputation established. And he has to wear makeup and do sexy dances. But I see him as straight. All his skinship looks to me exactly like "that's just Korean culture" kinda stuff. Someone here was right that Changmin can be very blunt, sort of like Jae. If he watches porn, he tells that. He also shared stories about peeing into gutter in grade school, dandruff, and his hairy back. When DBSK just debuted, Changmin said several times that he never dated, and then he stopped saying that. I believe him here, too. He seems like an honest person. .... Now that TVXQ are a duo, many people noticed how they appear as "a gay guy and a straight guy" show. Yunho (gay mode): Hi everyone! Chagnmin: *hyung, that was srsly SO gay... Is it just me, or Yunho gets embarrased when he realizes that his ghei spontaneously shows? And yeah, Min kinda loves outing him subtly and not-so-subtly. Yunho and Changmin together are freaking hilarious! In short, imho, Changmin doesn't have much to do in this thread other than "our queens' straight friend" * I actually have Junsu analysis and Jaemin and Yunjaemin analysis, but a lil' later. Edited February 17, 2014 by Lillya 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Look what I found guyzzz Korea's LGBT support group made this educational video for safe gay sex. I hope it won't be a problem, it's pretty, erm... naturalistic. And - in the style of Korean variety shows. With condom police fairy and his gay Batman sidekick. They instruct the clueless gay couple. ROFLMAO I hope our gay idols watch such things and play it safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) the way i see it is that yunho is a closeted gay , and knowing that his parents are homophobic he maybe choosed to be with a girl that how i explain the 3 years thing , bcs 3 years ago or 4 -5 yrs he was dating JJ , and now maybe he don't date guys anymore so changmin said he don't think that he's gay anymore ( though his sexual preferences wouldn't change ) but maybe this is how changmin see it well i can't say it's 100 % true bcs i don't follow yunho closely so only his fan can clear those things for me do you think that he still date guys ? I have followed Yunho for a few years, and I think he ONLY dates guys. Hyungs love him, he's like a happy puppy around them, he has tonnes of fanboys in the industry. Heck, one of their dancers is his huge fanboy. He treats girls as sisters, BoA is like his buddy... I could go on and on for pages... Why does he only have rumors with any women when SM promotes him in a couple? Why does he try to play down his mannerisms? Why does he get embarrassed when someone comments on them? Why did he once say "I'm a normal man so I like women". Overcompensating much? I don't think his parents care much about his dating life. In their eyes, he has to get married, that's all, that'll be only after army, he still has some time. He concentrates on his career bla-bla-bla... If anyone finds a photo or a video of him checking a girl out or flirting with one NOT FOR CAMERA, it will be the first one I know... It's classical "ghei", being girlier than girls. That said, I LUV Yunho! He appears as a genuinely nice and kind person. G-Dragon looks kind of gay in these pics. Ma girl Ma girl Ma girl gudeyo nal anajwoyo... Edited February 18, 2014 by Lillya 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) You seem to know a lot about Yunho. Do you think he'd be a good role model and mentor for the other gay idols? Particularly in SM? I'm hoping that behind the scenes, YunHo is a mentor to Key, Sehun, Tao etc etc (as well as Heechul is mentor too.) I don't know how much Siwon would be since I'm not sure how much in the closet he is even at SM where everyone knows each others business. Oh, There's so much I don't know. Yes, a lot of idols see Yunho as a role model and look up to him, not just gay ones, and not just in SM. That's really beyond any orientation. Yunho is hard-working, professional, and humble. And Yunho loves dem boys. Being buddies, friends, colleagues, he always greatly enjoys male companies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYNqJPDtizU He always helps EXO a lot. Just volunteers to do that. I am sure younger gay idols sort of join the gay network that Yunho is a part of. In SHINee, I think Yunho is personally the closest with Taemin and Jonghyun, rather than Key. But you're so right, Yunho is surely a no.1 mentor in SM! I have no idea if one can hide their dating escapades in the industry. They all know each other. You cannot really date someone outside the industry, the can easily out you later. But if it is someone behind-the-scenes. like a stylist, or a back dancer, then they are in the same boat with you, ethically obliged to keep all secrets. Honestly, I have no idea how Siwon handles that. But Yunjae were huge, so Yunho's orientation must be an open secret. Edited February 18, 2014 by Lillya 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 36: A movie which has left the greatest impression on you? Brokeback Mountain ( American 2005 film) It’s a really awesome romance movie as the actors were very expressive when they act. It allows the audience to feel like as though they were a part of the movie itself. Hard for me to see Changmin being homophobic when he says that about this movie, tbqh. But he's a bias of mine so shrug. Which changmin said this!! ????? I think it was TVXQ Changmin I rewatched Brockback Mountain after I started following Yunjae every now and then. And, weirdly, I started drawing parallels. It's as if Jaejoong always wanted to be more open about their relationship and just dgaf, like Jack. And as if Yunho has always been very closeted, self-denying and preferring to be very secretive, like Ennis. Those guys in the film fought precisely because of that, because their vision of their future or no-future together was incompatible. I could imagine Yunho and Jaejoong fighting about the similar matters - accepting vs denying their gayness, and falling apart, in the end. And if so, Changmin (and other two members of TVXQ) had to witness all that closely, whether he wanted or not. Dunno, just my five cents... 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) http://instagram.com/jeongsihyun They've been really close for years and he always accompanies Jo Kwon on those frequent trips to Thailand. I am 100% sure that's how it went down. "Let's go, bitches" Edited April 17, 2014 by Lillya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Welcome! Agreed about Bakehyun and Hanbyul. They both really like to ham it up a lot, so it's hard to tell when they're being genuine. Both do ping, and I wouldn't be surprised if either or both of them were bi or gay (or straight). More than anything they both seem like they like to have fun and be flirty and silly, and they don't seem to mind who their target is lol Technically there's no limit on how many can be gay or bi, but I'd say it's pushing it to guess more than 25ish% of any random group... but you never know. Some surveys have shown up to half the general population to be gay or bi (most of those being bi), but others have shown as little as 5-15% (again with a large portion of them being bi). It can also vary greatly by the environment, since people of the homosexual persuasion tend to be drawn to similar things at a higher rate (such as hairdressing, fashion, and dance). Since there's no way to actually know what range we should be aiming for specifically, I'd say it's safe to plop down somewhere in the middle and go with that. That being said if somebody pings then they ping and you shouldn't ignore that, but just keep in mind that as awesome as "all of them" sounds, it's probably not true TL;DR I think it's reasonable to guess that in addition to Tao and Sehun, a couple members may also be bi. Great post. I am not sure if we should go too much into theory here, but how many people are aware, at all, that the terms themselves of "hetero-", "homo-" or "bisexual" were coined by Western doctors in the 2nd half of the 19th century? Before that, "homo" or "hetero" could be sexual acts but not people. Such surveys assume that these distinctions are inherent to people, whereas they themselves are fairly recent scientific constructs. Pretty arbitrary. Still, in some parts of e.g. Asia and Africa people just have no idea what "gay" means. You can live without those categories in your head Surveys with low outcomes probably just really pressured people to identify strictly with a type of sexual orientation. Some might play for a safe option (regardless of their experiences) because of how we have been brought up for generations. Maybe a bit graphic but has anyone seen Yunho wear this Tshirt Lol there is actually a very gay meaning behind it.. Lol and the gay stamps they're putting out in finland. have something to do with that character... LOL!! but everyone already knows about Yunho!! Pun intended! I have a feeling Yunho is clueless. I wonder if he bought this T himself, or it was an equally clueless fashion manager, or a mean trolling knowing manager... In British English "fags" is a slang for "cigarettes", though, You can go and have a fag in the UK. That does not mean you're announcing that you're gay. Edited April 18, 2014 by Lillya 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) I totally agree Seungri may well be bi or bi-curious with GD bringing ghei out in him But that sex scandal with a Japanese woman... No, not gay.. really It was too bad for Kpop. Not just a dating scandal but a SEX scandal, after that Japanese tabloid report we all know he likes it rough, or whatever. And he admitted that, not even apologizing and basically turning all this into "there's no such thing as bad publicity, I'm grown up, y'know" http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/39251/20130828/big-bang-seungri-sex-scandal.htm If YG had wanted to orchestrate a straight scandal for Seungri, they could go for dating photos, hugging or even kissing, but not THIS.. Edited August 22, 2014 by Lillya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Depending on how you look at this, it can be interesting: "I" and not "We"... But of course, Yunho could be in a relationship with a woman at the moment, and it could be the reason why he doesn't care if the dancers are women... I just thought it could be relevant to the thread, since a lot of people here (me included) agree that Yunho seems gay. Yes! Many pages ago I wrote a Changmin analysis and posted some photos of Yunho being with girls and not noticing them, and I am pretty convinced that Changmin is straight and Yunho is gay. Moar Even before seeing these comments by Changmin, in Something and Spellbound MVs I thought that Changmin looks like he's having the time of his life, and Yunho looks, erm... professional and kind of outfabs the girl dancers a few times. Watch them, it's all pretty obvious!.. I think Yunho is as gay as gay can be. I've followed him for a few years and I've never seen him checking girls out. And that goes with his unbeliavable stamina. A boner on stage, anyone? Even though he's in his late 20s already.. That sexual power HAS to be released... somewhere. Even after Changmin killed it cross-dressing and basically nailing it with girly and delicate dance moves, he just appears straight, to me. Jaejoong. Gay. I think he dated women at some point because he was experimenting and figuring out. With all his lyrics, I'm pretty sure he's the experimenting type. So, seems like he's long since figured out he's gay. Yoochun. Straight, or heteroflexible, or bi-curious. Definitely into girls. Very LGBT-friendly and supporting. Junsu. The ultimate mystery... Ok, here it goes, my Junsu analysis. The fellow band members once ranked him as having the least Casanova potential. On the one hand, he seems so determined, level-headed, and career-oriented that I have a feeling he'd rather have good night's sleep to be fresh for the concert that go for a date. As it goes from Intoxication and Tarantallegra, he's very supportive of LGBTQ and, generally, the freedom of sexual expression, and consciously wants to fashion himself as a gay icon. He also supports various fetishes and kinks... kind of like Jaejoong hmmm.... who knows. Oh, Junsu's Tarantallegra possibly wins the prize for the kinkiest Kpop MV, or smth. If I understand the concept of this MV correctly, it's Junsu being the President of some Kink Club. Seriously. The only think I can conclude about Junsu for now is that he's very accepting of any expression of sexuality, and probably very far from being a "conservative staight, or straight-wannabe" kind of guy. Most likely, not staight himself. Possibly, Junsu is the real-deal pansexual, or bi guy. Not the one who thinks he's bi because he's struggling with his gayness in the closet, but the real pansexual, or bi And not the type who loses his head over some complications of dating or falling in love. Maybe, not even dating that much, at all. Just open to the possibilities. To wrap up my analysis, and as a bonus, Junsu has THE BEST butt in Kpop. Hands down. I'm sure that butt receives a lot of attention... Edited August 25, 2014 by Lillya 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) I agree about Yunho not checking out girls, but does he check out guys (aside from Jaejoong before)? He seems like the private type, so I really hope he has someone in his life (even if, my delusional romantic self sometimes hope for a miracle, but life isn't a drama) , or at least that he won't be forced (or feel obliged) to marry a girl just to please his family, his fangirls or society. __________ I agree about Jaejoong too, of course. And he seems "gayer" as time passes, as if he didn't even try to restrain himself in public anymore. He looks more "real" these days, I'm happy for him (worried too). I also hope he has someone in his life that can make him feel happy and secure (even if... same as above, but I hope he moved on by now). _________ Junsu... well, as I said before. He lost me a long time ago. He is very sexual on stage or for is MVs, but the rest of the time, not really... I can't picture him with a girl, to be honest. And I can't picture him with a guy. I really don't know, he's a mystery for me. I think maybe it's his way to keep a private life, he doesn't show anything. I don't see him checking out girls or boys... If it was not for Tarantallegra, Intoxication... etc and the way he dances, I could very well imagine him as an asexual man. Yes, poor Yunho! I so love him as he seems to be such a kind, helpful, humble and selfless man. I wish he could be himself more. He really controls himself on camera. Once he forgets, his mannerisms surface. Because he often act like a calm man of few words but most fans know by now that he's bubbly, chatty, cute, and kinda "hyper", and a big dork. As to him checking boys out. Well, unlike Jaejoong, Yunho respects social norms so he doesn't do that openly. But he's very touchy-feely with many guys he meets. He loves attention from hyungs, and he easily bonds with men. As for the girls, he treats them as buddies (BoA, that figure skater from the show), or sisters (Yoona, girls from '85 line) http://soooobeast.tumblr.com/post/4525167722/theres-always-that-one-backup-dancer-that-is-creepily Your hand, Yunho!.. ---- Jaejoong is a troubled person. How much attention from parents does the ninth child get, even if it's all split equally? Then they told him he's adopted, at some point. Then, when Jaejoong got famous, his biological father began a custody battle. What custody, though? Jaejoong was approaching 20 y/o by that time. That should have hurt. A LOT. And, he's a trouble maker. He hurt himself and could't walk, then he had a DUI case. And he tends to drink and smoke too much. As if that's not enough, he also has to deal with his sexuality in the homophobic and sexist society. That's a lot for a person to bear. He can only stay strong. ---- Junsu. If asexual, why construct such "hypersexual" image for himself and cater to LGBT audience? Would an asexual person do that, ever? And that's not because of craving for fame. Those MVs and lyrics are so edgy they get censored from mainstream broadcasts. One thing sure, he is definitely a very accepting person toward other people. Who knows, maybe he's like many people who watch porn with group sex, and orgies, and kink, for ...ahem, fun but would not like to experience those extremes themselves. It's even good, I think that he appears to not be very sexual in real life. As the stereotypes go, bisexual people are promiscuous 'cause hey - they are attracted to twice as many people than an average person is. In this logic, pansexual people are supposedly sexual monsters. Which is wrong! Sexual orientation and sex drive are two separate things. Bi and pan people can be very discreet, too. It's very possible they don't have high sex drive, just like people with more conventional sexual orientations. My point is that Junsu may well be bi or pansexual by how he feels and how open he is, but not a very sexually active person in general, dating discreetly, too. Staying single for periods of time, maybe. Edited August 26, 2014 by Lillya 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Changmin- well... he was at least a tiny bit curious when he was much younger. But straight. Junsu however I have no idea, maybe bi, maybe pan, maybe doesn't give a shit about gender and sexuality and is what ever he wants to be. Changmin... Well, it's hard to not be curious when you're a teenager with raging hormones being around gay hyungs 24/7. Changmin had a kind of bond with Jaejoong at some point. Jaejoong, just by being himself, made him laugh his ass off more than anyone else ever, it seems. I like this idea a lot about Junsu not caring about gender and sexuality boundaries. Some people strongly dislike labels, and contemporary Western culture is all about labeling everyone and yourself. They have the total right to deliberately not identify with anything and just live their lives. You know, it really makes me wonder how Jaejoong and Yunho got along so well for so long. I mean if rumors are to be believed then they had a fairly bumpy relationship, but still. They're like polar opposites. Yunho is a good boy who respects authority and social norms and tries to keep his private life almost completely hidden, and Jaejoong... is not lol About Junsu: exactly. If sexuality was a tiny part of his life, his art and image would not include much (or any) blatant sexuality. He basically just has to shake his butt and do some aegyo and fans melt before him, so there's really no need for him to include so much sexual imagery around himself professionally speaking. Being banned from broadcasts has given JYJ a large amount of extra artistic freedom, too, since they don't have to worry about making their stuff TV friendly. I think in his life he's probably been very sexual with a smallish number of people (probably mostly people he's dating at the time). I think he does have a very high sex drive, but despite popular misconceptions this definitely does not automatically mean that somebody is a sex addict or anything like that. I'm very sure Yunho and Jaejoong's relationships was a very bumpy one. It's just that they fell for each other. Well, I'd say Changmin and Yunho are more like polar opposites than Yunho and Jaejoong. These two are VERY different, too but they have their similarities. Yunho and Jaejoong both are very extroverted, can't bear to be alone and love being with people, especially all-male groups . They both are touchy-feely, they just need to touch people a lot to live, seems like. Both are naturally spontaneous and straightforward, and furious when angry (Yunho 'really' plays it all down on camera), whereas Junsu is more cautious, and Yoochun and Changmin are more observant and can be detached (Oh, all the fun these two had at Yunjae being unconsciously obvious) Yes, I agree, Junsu appears as a very sexual person if you look carefully, with sexuality being a big part of his life, but not promiscuous. --------- On the side note, yep, DBSK is kind of a gay-vibe band. I think it's just a coincidence here that "straight" is a minority in DBSK. The Ask-a-korean blogger who does not know much about DBSK but is a native of Korean culture blames the band (somewhat homophobically though he apologizes) that they are responsible for starting this Hallyu stereotype that Korean men are gay. http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2011/02/50-most-influential-k-pop-artists-34.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozd0pYvQku4 Bonus: Yunho's gayness explodes at 3:46 Edited August 26, 2014 by Lillya 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Khmm... Yunjae remind me a lot of a couple I know. Both possessive, both extremely touchy, both extroverted... But one person is very out and proud and loves showing their lover, the other very private, and basically Yunho's astral twin. This caused their relationship great problems and even though they are still together if the Yunho-person does not remove the stick from their bum and continues to care about people's opinion, they are going to separate. Maybe that was Yunjae's problem too, one person- very much in love and wanting to show everybody their love, other person - equally in love, but scared of society's opinion. Oh, cool, I thought such couples existed! It sounds VERY plausible that this was a big part of the problem in their relationship. Also, your friends are not celebrities (I assume) and most likely do not work in the same place. Those I believe were further grave complications for Yunjae. Not just did they use to "work" together, but it's a kind of work where you're together literally 24/7. Very personal feelings getting mixed into the professional environment... And all the fanservice craze, on top of that. Walking the fine line... uh, that should have been really tough. Very, very few couples (opposite-sex or same-sex - doesn't matter) would manage to stay together if they had to live together AND work together all the time, and be together 24/7. It's very sad that they broke up but it also amazes me how much they probably loved each other if they could be together for a while, despite all those problems. Edited August 26, 2014 by Lillya 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) One thing about Jaejoong being labelled as "gay" .... well all this time I try to point out one single thing, why he appeals so gay to me, although it never really one single factor. Following his career through the years, seeing him growing from newbie and observing his acts & behavior for 8 years, I can say one significant thing about Jaejoong that scream "gay" to me is : the way he's expressing himself is just like how women do. Just like what his sister said before " he's a girl to the bone". True true... Some examples from before he could be so open are even more telling. This vid is freaking hilarious. The Japanese girls unknowingly describe the kind of guys they dislike and that's like Jaejoong spot-on, and all the rest 4 members just can't contain themselves. Jaejoong's reactions are just to die for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Ny3jUWuhQ This one is just priceless. What they mentioned in the 1st vid - this is how it looks... LOOOOL While they poke fun of Changmin, look at Jaejoong and his mirror Yunho TVXQ (seems open around friends and family, does not like to flaunt, private, something goes off when he dances) Yunho is the Dancing Queen!.. No sh*t!.. WERK it, Yunho, WERK it... Edited August 28, 2014 by Lillya 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) i'm gonna assume we already had this in the thread, but top x key's model exboyfriend oh, the model guy, Lee Soo Hyuk, also happens to be GD's best gay friend. It's a tight biz, they all know each other, and there are many friends between the companies. GD is a part of modelling world, too, and seems like he LOVES models Also, by now I'm pretty convinced GD is either just gay or leans strongly toward men. Obviously, he is able to have a strong bond with a girl, even if they're just friends with Kiko, they're being pretty epic long-term friends. Edited September 3, 2014 by Lillya 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillya 821 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm not sure about TOP but he defs likes hanging out with older men. 140923 TOP with Kim Chiho (and Dom Perignon) in Italy This too: GDTop didn't work out because they're both major bottoms. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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