Which male idols do you think are gay?

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On 11/24/2020 at 8:12 PM, Kpop_fan178 said:

Does anyone has any information about Park Seo Joon? Because to me he looks at first sight straight af, but the only thing suspicious about him is his group of friends. Like most of them ping for me(V, Choi Woo Shik, Park Hyung Shik and Peakboy). I know many cases where there's only one queer person in a group of friends, but i never heard of cases where there's only 1 straight person in a friend group yet.  

Haha actually shocked someone mentioned this. That entire groups gives me vibes that it’s not a straight friend group. Park Seojoon images an alarm go off on my head in general because he’s about to be 34 korean age and has not even had a public relationship yet, which I’m pretty sure is not that normal for a Korean man, especially an actor with an image to uphold. Correct me if I’m wrong! Anyway typically I would ignore this especially because of some of the super weird comments he made back in the day about his future wife, but considering who is in that friend group it makes it more questionable lol. 

On 11/22/2020 at 4:11 PM, liberalitea said:

cmiiw but he tweeted something about wanting to tickle jimin's genitals i think

I think quite a few of these 4th Gen idols are gay ex fan boys. It’s very interesting to watch. 

On 12/2/2020 at 4:41 PM, Exo-l since 2015 said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrmahfRh8VN/?igshid=1qgoryex5ibxe

this pic the guy in the back, he works at paradise city and he hangs out with a bunch of idols. I remember some time ago people on here thought he had something with V?

Are you sure that’s not their other friend peakboy?

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5 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

The Christmas song was never released so we don't know if it was romantic or not. I doubt it was, but if it's "inappropriate" for two men to sing together then that should tell you at least a little something about its content. My guess is it's similar to 'Friends' off of MOTS:7, nothing romantic about it, but BH would rather not take any chances. I mean, they say soulmate so many times in that song but the track is still called 'Friends'. BH are fine with queerbaiting as long as they're the ones directing it.

And I agree that he very likely (almost definitely) isn't allowed to release a song explicitly about a man he is in love with, but he didn't have to use any gendered language. It's very easy to write a song in Korean without any gendered language in it, so him saying "girl" feels like it's more intentional.

The lyrics are quite easy to search up via Twitter or Google from the snippet he played and you will see that it is a romantic Christmas song. I don’t feel like uploading a pic sorry lol >.< Christmas in general is considered a romantic holiday in Korea and mostly celebrated by couples. 

Friends is nothing like the Christmas song. The tones are different. One is clearly about a friendship and the other is clearly about a romantic relationship. Also saying “soulmate” is not queer baiting. Maybe in the west and other places this term has a stronger more romantic meaning, but it used very lightly in Korea quite often. I see idols saying it all the time about others. Hyungsik said Seojoon and Taehyung are his soulmates as well. It’s not that serious. Just friends that were destined to be together. Also Bighit has never really marketed Vmin to be anything other than strictly a friendship. 

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2 hours ago, dumdidumdi said:

Well I don't think Boy With Luv was supposed to be a statement either, they were just trying new concepts, most BTS title tracks are wildly different from the previous one. And most people would argue that their more polished image came before Boy With Luv, not with it.

In the scene where he plays the song for JK it's pretty clear that he's saying sonyeo, without the n. His usual style of singing is a bit more... muddled? I don't know how to put it, but he doesn't enunciate every word all that clearly, so maybe the original doesn't enunciate it as much making it purposefully vague.

Here lol. I don't think they are completely romantic, they could be interpreted in either way.

As for the queerbaiting part, I think you misunderstood me. I didn't mean that 'Friends' is romantic, even if it was called 'Soulmates', I think it's a sweet song about their friendship. I'd say my friends are kind of my soulmates, I don't think it's an inherently romantic word. I meant to say that BH is fine with queerbaiting the members (not specifically Vmin) as long as they are the ones that tell them to pose together for a photoshoot, or play out homoerotic friendships in their music videos. It's similar to 'Friends' in regards to BH wanting to make sure nobody misinterprets it as a romantic song, not in the sense that they are about the same kind of relationship. I can imagine to BH it'd be different to release a song that Tae said he wrote specifically for himself and Jimin to sing and that be interpreted as romantic vs. vaguely gesturing at a very close bond between two people of the same gender and that be interpreted as romantic. One is far easier to deny (or more likely, laugh off) than the other.

“At first sight as we turn our heads hotter than coco I’m falling. Never let go of my hands” come on...this song is not friendly lmao there is no interpretation other than romantic and this is only a snippet who knows how much further the rest of the song goes. It’s clear what it was hence why they said it was inappropriate for him to sing it with a man and made him sing it with Adora instead. 

Friends is quite clearly a song about friendship, so again I’m still highly confused by what you’re trying to say. Can you expand on what you meant by this? “they say soulmate so many times in the song yet the title is called friends” 

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41 minutes ago, OptimusPremier said:

Fans specifically asked for songs he has never released so he played all the unreleased demos sitting in his phone, that's why it came up and since they liked it, he played it again during the Break the silence ep. Also I personally think Taehyung didn't embrace his own gayness before 2017 (Stigma also seems to indicate it wasn't a smooth journey). He started sharing LGBT artists in 2016 but he also had this whole "wanting to look manly" thing throughout  2016-2017 (when he started hanging out with Bogum and the Hwarang hyungs). I think it ties with the fact that what some people called his "childish/weird" behavior was mostly actually him looking like a flamboyant gay kid and he wanted to "correct/bury/hide" that image. So that may be why there was "girl" back then and not ever since (the only one with a "she", Winter Bear, is probably about his grandma, that explains both the lyrics and why the members are so affectionate with the song). 

Taehyung said Winter Bear is based on the movie about time where the guy proposes to the woman while she is in bed. He said he was touched by the scene. 

I agree with most of what you said though.
The other members kept calling his behavior weird like him joining them in the shower or whatever, but it’s definitely giving me sheltered baby gay finally allowed to explore in a dorm filled with other guys. Even his behavior like you said a lot of times wasn’t even “alien” or “childish” he was just being a bit flamboyant lol. It seems like up until last year he’s been in a constant back and forth. I felt like year during pride month with the whole call me by my name  situation marked a change in him. Like he has fully accepted who he is entirely. Whether he is straight, bi, or gay I feel like he has had trouble coming to terms with who he is as person and what it means to be a “man”. One interesting thing noted is May this year Taehyung mentioned on vlive that he was about to have a meeting with the company about the image he should present to fans. 

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3 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

Hmm, to bad that people didn't tell me what it is that they dont like about my comment. I am always open for a good conversation. But thanks for explaining it to me. I am new to this forum or to any K-pop ones actually. 

Personally your comment saying Taehyung speaks for Jimin with the LGBTQ related content he talks about was pretty off putting lmao 

12 hours ago, Josaline said:

I found it on  twitter

 

 

He actually didn’t mention the man I love. He was talking about to all the boys I’ve loved before, that popular Netflix movie. 

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20 hours ago, TataBoo said:

Does anyone have receipts of Taehyung actually looking attracted to men who aren't BTS? Tbh I'm not sure if fanservice or skinship with his members count. I'm kind of curious because Jimin has shown to be attracted to men plenty of times outside of the group, but I can't tell with Taehyung. With that being said, there are just some mannerisms and other receipts with Taehyung that I can't ignore, so I still get the vibe he likes men.

This video was the perfect example of him genuinely being attracted to/trying to impress a man in my opinion. The way his attitude did a 180 with Bogum compared to Jimin. The high pitched voice...the mannerisms (and I’m not just talking about when they were* filming for their MC portion) LOL 

Also just saw he was listening to that Austin McKenzie song that’s about a man.
 

“And he picks you up
And he sets you down
And that's the way
He thinks and he walks and he plays around downtown
But the truth is, he's still got a scar
As plain as others
To get his way to a scarlet heart

He's so lovely, goddamn pretty
In fact they say he's quite the lover
Catch your eye, catch that guy
Something in him is quietly dying
And he knows what he is
'Cause you told him a million times
And he knows what he does
And he walks with you 'round the town just for fun”

I’m sorry, but no one straight interacts with LGBT media to this extent. At this point I am way beyond the point of debating on if he’s straight or not. I just do not believe he is straight at all. 

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19 minutes ago, TataBoo said:

Taehyung's mannerisms in general stick out to me but somehow fly under the radar of most of the fandom. Half are convinced he's straight as a toothpick while the other half hope he's not gay because they want to date him...

It really looked like he was flirting with Bogum and to be honest even if he's bisexual and has interest in women it feels like he would be bisexual with a male preference.

There’s definitely like three distinct sides to him that he comfortably shows us, but a good chunk of the fandom only likes to pay attention one. And unsurprisingly it’s the one where they can pretend he could be their dom daddy king one day LOL so yes a lot of them do ignore the glaringly obvious side of him that reads to be not a straight man, but it is what it is.

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26 minutes ago, dumdidumdi said:

Speaking of both awkward interactions, and Park Bogum and Tae, I always found this video to be awkward. Maybe it's because they're on camera, but I feel like literally every member is more excited to see Bogum than Tae is. Maybe he already knew he was coming, so he's not surprised, or things are a bit uncomfortable between the two.

That video was always super sus to me. Taehyung definitely didn’t know he was coming as he looked shocked, and he was asked if he knew and he said he didn’t. Honestly for me Bogum’s surprise presence felt more like plea than anything else lmao. It was SO awkward between them. The way Tae shifted away from the hug at the end lmaoooo. They met up one more time publicly after this and have not mentioned each other or been spotted together since, and it’s been over a year. So I think it’s pretty much over, “friendship” or otherwise between them. A lot of taekook shippers said Jungkook was jealous or whatever because he was staring hard as hell at Taehyung and holding him and what not, but he honestly just looked concerned to me lol ...but theories are just theories I guess 

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Jimin is hard to read. He’s the only one we have pictures of with a serious girlfriend, but a lot of times that means nothing let’s be real

He is a lot less open about his likes and dislikes in comparison to Taehyung, which is why I find it harder to read him. He definitely internally struggled with self expression in the past, which he admitted to and has been slowly accepting who he truly is throughout the years concerning his mannerisms and style, but that is not always linked with sexuality. He seems to flirt with both genders, but I feel like I’ve only ever seen him show notable attraction to women...but saying all that I still think he’s not straight. I feel like based off of what Vmin have said about their friendship, I think the relationship might be rooted in that they are sharing an experience that only they understand. 

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49 minutes ago, lilymul said:

im too lazy to quote but to clarify, i dont think vmin are/were dating or anything nor i think anyone in bts is dating eo, it's just i sense some one-side attraction mainly from taehyung. Maybe it's just deep friendship but the fact that tae already wrote 2 jimin-related songs left me wondering.

About the Friends perfomance, idk maybe it's just me expecting more playful interactions from those two. It's too scripted and staged imo when we have seen vmin are capable of doing something fanservice-y in on stages, eg mikrokosmos performances. but it could be because it was one time performance so they were a lot more formal(?) and did everything as rehearsed i guess. Fyi, i was just newly into bts so when i first watched their Friends stage(without any prior knowledge of their relationship, i got into bts bc i really like friends and spring day first) i really thought tae was a bit cold the whole time  

about park bo gum, did they meet through hwarang? i did some googling and found out that they went to BB concert tgt with jimin and jin once. 

He never said the Christmas song was about Jimin. He just wanted to sing it with him. 4 o’clock isn’t completely about Jimin either, just inspired by the scenery and feeling from their park meetup, something Jimin himself didn’t know till this year, so. But anyway I don’t see any attraction from Taehyung towards Jimin. 

30 minutes ago, TataBoo said:

Jimin is really confusing because we don't know if it's his idol persona or his genuine attraction most of the time. I think that access interview with the black interviewer was genuine attraction from Jimin's side though. This is how he was looking at him most of the time:

I tend to block out this moment from my head as people have made it a racially fetishized mess.

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2 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

I have never seen these pics? Are they very early debut (first year or two)? I've snooped a lot, so now i'm curious. If you have them handy or know the name please write it here (in spoiler maybe) or send a dm my way please! 

I've felt the same way that you have (bolded part) about vmin's friendship many times before. Whenever they talk about their friendship it just always seems implied. Now of course the shared experience could be something else, but it's soemthing i've always kept in the back of my head in regards to them. 

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/783696772630144121/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/783696772630144118/
 

Jimin’s ex girlfriend 

There’s rumors about Jungkook too and an unconfirmed photo but I’m not sure how true it is. Maybe someone else knows. 

 

1 hour ago, joonsoulie said:

You mean when he was 16? That means nothing. I literally know more gay guys who had girlfriends in high school than those that didn't - and I was in a musical theatre program in an American high school. Imagine what societal pressures there are for a boy from Busan who I'm sure is already getting side-eyed for studying contemporary dance. I would honestly be more surprised if he didn't have a gf, whether they were friends or if she was meant to cover something up.

I've consumed a lot of BTS content and I've genuinely never seen evidence of Jimin being legitimately attracted to women after say, 2015. We ALL know he went through some serious changes at that point in his life - he even said he "grew and realized so many things" after he shed the masculine persona of their debut years.

Jimin is so stereotypically gay it seems to me a lot of people want to call him bisexual or "just flirty" because it would seem tacky or reliant on stereotypes to say otherwise. But I have no problem calling a spade a spade - Jimin is increasingly feminine and fey the more he grows comfortable and happy with himself, and I don't see anything wrong with acknowledging the simplest explanation as to why, in addition the attraction he's shown towards men. To be honest it reads as effemophobia sometimes. If he gives eyes to a man, he's just flirting because he's a Libra and it doesn't mean anything. If he looks at a female performer for more than 10 seconds he wants to fuck her. Like, what?

Also this is not directed at you specifically op, just expressing general frustration. Sorry if this response seems aggro I just genuinely don't understand how people can argue against what is, to me, incredibly obvious.

It was definitely aggro especially when I said that means nothing a lot of the time and that I don’t even think he’s straight, and even then he could still very well be bi thus still making the photo relevant lmao. Relax. Certain people in this thread aren’t a fan of stereotypes, and that’s their right, so I try to respect that. The reality is Jimin has never said or hinted anything, and it’s all just assumptions based on what people interpret as flirting and bunch of stereotypes, so that’s why his sexuality tends to be up in the air more on here. 

1 hour ago, joonsoulie said:

Also yes Jimin's thing for black guys has been grossly made into a joke but if you look at the common threads of his interactions with handsome black men in the industry it's clear that's honestly just his type lmao

Based on what? Tony and some random interviewer? Tony and that man aren’t even similar, so his type is just black? It just sounds dodgy to me. I know there are people like this, to me it seems more like a well built older guy is his type rather than simply being black. That’s a fetish to me. 
Speaking of Tony...Taehyung had an interesting relationship while on the show, but with Nate.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/549368854523385668/

He sent that to Nate and then Nate posted it. Idk I found them interesting too, but clearly an unpopular opinion considering no one talks about them lol. But like I said my theory is that Tae and Jimin are so close because of the shared experience of being LGBT. 

Anyway let me shut up so this doesn’t become a BTS gay thread lol 

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5 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

I realize I was quoting you so it seemed like I was attacking you specifically, but that wasn't my intention. Tone gets lost so I probably sounded more harsh than I meant to. Sorry

As for Jimin liking black guys, he's reacted similarly to Offset and some others I can't remember off the top of my head. (*AND USHER mans literally woofed when they were talking about him, he absolutely has a crush) I absolutely see your point, but a lot of black armys make the same jokes and I also don't think it's right to say it's a fetish, like it's something out of the ordinary. I'm not saying he ONLY likes black men btw

 

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But he didn’t...he shook hands with offset listened to what Cardi and him had to say and they said their goodbyes he wasnt showing any interest at all lmao. Like at this point it’s like claiming he’s attracted to any black man he interacts with...and I am a black ARMY so I know why these comments are made, they’re fetishizing a certain racial dynamic and overcompensating to create proximity. At this point agree to disagree though cause I know no one wants to read all this lol 

 

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2 hours ago, Josaline said:

All of this Jungkook, Taehyung, Bogum and Joon Ki thing...

I did some research on this, after Joon Ki got married, Bogum and his wife starred in a drama. According to rumors, his wife had a reputation for having relationships with the men she had been acting with, and when rumors of divorce broke out, rumors emerged that his wife cheated on him with Bogum. Bogum denied these rumors. But after Joon Ki's divorce, the two were known as very close friends, but were not seen together much. Even though the two are normally in the same company, Joon Ki left the company. But you brought a different perspective to the situation.

 

https://lovekpop95.com/2020/05/18/strange-relationship-of-song-joong-ki-park-bo-gum/

 

And I think they all knew Boguım was coming to the concert where that Bangtan Bomb was filmed, but maybe they didn't expect him to come backstage and interact with them that way. Bogum wears the headband of Jungkook's BT21 character, Jungkook's reaction him and Jungkook literally did this that concert... Interesting  

Sorry to disappoint but they didn’t know. Bogum’s cooky headband was given to him by a fan. It’s on video/photo lmao 

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3 minutes ago, Josaline said:

Oh is there a video? I didn't see that.

Yeah I think it was video or photo of someone handing it to him as earlier in the concert he had nothing. I saw it when there was discussions about it last year after the bangtan bomb drop 

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2 hours ago, joonsoulie said:

I'll preface this by saying that I am nonbinary, so I have as much of an interest in abolishing the stereotypes of gender presentation as anyone. But from the perspective of society at large, Jimin does not present in a way that would be considered traditionally 'masculine.'

He's worn clothing modeled for women numerous times (although this could be the stylists' choice) and enjoys wearing makeup, even saying he wants to give his dad a makeover. He's described himself as "delicate" and "fragile" several times, like during a Run episode where a florist told him "it's rare for a man to be this delicate" and he was visibly very pleased. If you looked at the way he's styled compared to the others, his outfits are noticeably less traditionally male. Again this could be the stylist's choice, but considering they've said he has the most input of the boys in his stage outfits, I doubt he has nothing to do with it. Example from 2020 MAMA Life Goes On performance: https://twitter.com/parkjiminpics/status/1335622331297792000?s=19

He's wearing a cropped shirt and lace gloves - these are not traditionally masculine clothing items. And even when he's not on stage, he intentionally choses jewelry like large hoops and dangly earrings and wearing lots of rings which you can't deny are not thought of as part of the average male wardrobe.

As someone who is nonbinary, a lot of us pay attention and take comfort in his gender presentation because it reminds us of out own. The incident to which you're referring was due to cis armys coming into trans space without the nuance to determine what were jokes and what is serious. NB armys were not the ones referring to Jimin with they/them pronouns, but we did make threads like this: https://twitter.com/Firehouselight/status/1315330731158065153?s=19

The Filter performance has sparked a lot of conversation and I was honestly surprised no one mentioned it in this thread. Rather than simply dancing with a mannequin dressed in women's clothing, Jimin put the clothes on himself in a song about changing his "filters" of presentation and personhood. For last year's army zip, he drew the bigender symbol on his arm and called it something he hadn't been able to express before. I don't like people automatically saying he doesn't know what it means, and I also don't take it as confirmation of anything, but I don't think it should be ignored. Of course, gender and sexuality are different aspects of identities, but they can have overlap in terms of behaviour and presentation.

If you want me to pull out quotes of him saying "I want to look like a woman" I don't have them. This is the nature of speculation on kpop idols who will likely never be able to express their true selves. This is what we have to rely on, the subtle hints and small comments which may, or may not, bely something deeper. Obviously I can't say with certainty that Jimin is gay, or genderfluid, or whatever, but I can say how I feel based on those small glimpses we are allowed and what I recognize. Me saying that he presents more femininely is not based on his innate birth characteristics, but comments and choices that he has made in recent years that draw a significant contrast to his presentation in 2013-2014 when he and the other members have said he was uncomfortable with himself.

The only reason I brought up Jimin's attraction to the interviewer, Usher, etc. is because those really are the only men I can say I've witnessed signs of him being attracted to, which someone else had asked. It's not my place to decide what is and isn't racist, but I don't want those interactions to be discounted just because of some ignorant fans calling it a fetish.

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Hmmm

Since we are ignorant, I’m gonna play devils advocate since I have the time lol. 
 

They have all worn clothes modeled for women, literally almost every appearance you can expect one member to be wearing female clothing, obviously a stylist choice. Multiple members especially Yoongi, Jungkook and Taehyung have all worn big hoops and dangly earrings to some extent. When did they say Jimin has the most input in stage outfits? (Genuinely I must’ve missed it can I have a link), last time I heard a few months ago one of their stylist said Taehyung is the one always getting really involved in the styling concepts or something. Regardless I’m sure he does get really involved, I’m sure they all put their inputs in what they like or dislike. Jin notably sticks to traditionally masculine clothing structure. But again, we still see multiple members sporting crop tops (even Jin once), sheer or lacy items, sequins, and wrap tops. Multiple members have made statements against gender norms. Which interestingly enough Jimin has never discussed. Jimin doesn’t say a whole lot in general, which I think is one of the reasons he gets so much projection thrown onto him (that and his feminine facial features and body, all of which he can’t control) He obviously doesn’t care much about gender norms, but he’s also never said a word to warrant this much fuss. So how is he THEE representative in the group for this with all these expectations and ideals placed on him when Jungkook said great style is wearing anything regardless of gender and often personally buys from genderless clothing brands, when Taehyung was wearing a pajama dress and said he hopes it can be popular among men in the future, when Yoongi questioned why certain things equate to masculinity, etc etc...and Jimin’s made zero statements at all.

I don’t see how him calling himself delicate has to do with femininity. It’s not like he (Jimin) was saying delicate in the way people often use to replace dainty. He said he was delicate as in can easily get hurt/fall over because of his petite body. Was Jimin blushing and happy from the florist because of the word delicate or because he was getting a compliment in general? Or even because he was called rare?

The intersex/bigender symbol is debated on, but it’s not the exact symbol. The exact symbol has the male portion tilted. Could it just be a minor error as he was drawing them? Sure, but it could also just be something random he drew, just like a lot of the things on his arms are. There was more random things like a hashtag, squiggly lines, straight lines, x’s and random doodles than things with actual meaning on his arms. If we take what he said literally that means the squiggly lines represents him too? Or is it the general atmosphere of the tattoos that represents him?

but I will say it’s still the only sort of relevant evidence that is ever used to support this theory. 

And the filter performance...he was performing a song not written by him, with a stage design and concept not created by him either. You know what other solo dabbled with gender and mannequins? Singularity. The mannequin is wearing a dress and a male suit jacket and he proceeds to use the mannequin to dance with himself with. Behind the scenes of the video Taehyung was wearing bright red lipstick, but I guess those scenes got cut. The concepts concerning gender is not something new to bighit or BTS. So why is it when Jimin also touches these subjects he becomes the poster child despite not asking for it? Cis ARMYs were not the only ones going too far. Plenty of non binary ARMYs thought calling him they/them was appropriate too. Everyone in general was going way too far.

just gonna say though I don’t really care if people think Jimin is bigender, there’s probably more evidence for that than some of the people claimed to be gay on here, but I just find this particular theory has people crossing  boundaries and a lot of projection sometimes, which we have seen that filter stage night. Let’s just enjoy Jimin peacefully and if he says something we can delve further. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, greysides said:

also, to be honest, how is jimin’s face + body all that feminine? he has lovely lips but so do namjoon and seokjin who dont get the same treatment. other than his mouth, what about his face is considered particularly feminine? his body is a bit smaller than the other members but not this teensy person who would topple over like a leaf if the wind blew people sometimes make him out to be. people are forgetting back in 2015 he was super muscular and had thighs so big sometimes they were nicknamed boulder thighs. aside from him being 5'8 (which isnt super out of the realm of commonality for a man even if its on the shorter end of the height spectrum) his body shape is pretty masculine. so honestly even the argument that he looks feminine is difficult for me to understand. it reads more like people WANT him to be feminine or prefer him to be feminine because of how they choose to perceive certain traits of his and find it uncomfortable to not see him that way, its a projection thing. the only thing about him physically that feels legitimately feminine is his voice because its high but even then nowadays he's made to sing at the tip top of his register which gives off the impression that its even higher than it already is

"So how is he THEE representative in the group for this with all these expectations and ideals placed on him when Jungkook said great style is wearing anything regardless of gender and often personally buys from genderless clothing brands, when Taehyung was wearing a pajama dress and said he hopes it can be popular among men in the future, when Yoongi questioned why certain things equate to masculinity, etc etc...and Jimin’s made zero statements at all." this , this is the exact reason i never understand this recent view that jimin is super feminine, why is it him that gets singled out and nobody else?

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I actually don’t think his body is feminine at all, but that seems to be the common consensus among a lot of fans just cause he has a petite frame, so I included it ha  (Plus he’s the one who described his body as delicate and that he would fall over easily if hit LOL). As for his face it’s definitely on the feminine side for me, but mostly when in stage makeup, without the makeup he looks more cute than anything else. The shape of his lips is a bit more feminine than jins, and his nose is also every small for a man, and when in makeup his eyes give off a more sultry expression. Agree to disagree though. 

 

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3 hours ago, greysides said:

i think if i remember correctly jimin said he was weak at one point while jungkook was working out? if im correct i just took that as him joking about having lost all his muscle. its funny about how different people see different features, for example i often notice jimin has really nice jaw structure that is pretty masculine. namjoon's nose is also very small but he isnt seen as feminine either, all the members eyes look sultry in makeup, idk how jimins lips are more feminine than jins, they're both really plump luscious lips. idk i just find it confusing cause its incongruent. nonetheless its fair enough if we just disagree, so agree to disagree

Nah. He said it recently when talking about which flowers each member would be. He said he would be a forget me not because his body is delicate and if you just hit him he will fall over lmaooo. 

 

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1 hour ago, sooa_t said:

hongjoong from ateez

Omg ngl I thought it was the PH1harmony guy that made weird tweets about Jimin.

Hongjoong has always struck me as bi anyway which is why I was shocked when I saw a group of Atinys on twitter a few weeks ago all agreeing that he’s straight...kinda just left it since I don’t know much about him, but this is interesting 

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7 hours ago, greysides said:

sorry, you're right, i just double checked it. he never said he would fall over if you hit him, but he said his body is weak so he'd choose that flower. thats one of the few times i feel like he's actually said something like that

No he said that part too lol 

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On 12/29/2020 at 9:21 AM, losetodo said:

V said several times his dream is marry a woman and go around with her and retire in his 40s and dedicate his life to her.

What’s with some people being unable to let got of these almost 8 year old receipts? 8 years ago I was “straight” too even going as far as telling people I could never be with a woman lmao. He has not mentioned a wife in like 5 years and he hadn’t mentioned kids (let alone five like he used to) either in that time frame until this comment below. Obviously light hearted, but it’s quite clear what his views are on having children these days - only a possibility. He could literally SCREAM that he’s not straight and someone would dig up a quote from 2013 or claim him simply showing a song that he wrote years ago as proof. Move on, Taehyung clearly has. 

On 12/29/2020 at 12:21 AM, Kaider28 said:

What do y'all think about Felix and Hyunjin from Stray kids?

Felix isn’t even that debatable for me personally anymore since in he went into detail of his male and female types. I can see it for hyunjin, but bang Chan intrigues me more for some reason...but I’m not a fan so I could be talking absolute bullshit lol 

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7 hours ago, Baby_Lion said:

Let’s talk about Yoongi. He is a big ????? to me. I mean he is the one who:

- Controversy “misinterpret or correct translation” 2014 Japanese interview. However, misinterpret or not, he was still clearly annoyed by this ideal type question. 

- Turned a “which kind of looks do you consider handsome ?” into “his ideal types of men and why ?”. Described so excited, show his love for two macho handsome actors and said he find they handsome because he is not tall and do not have a beard (??).

- Iconic open-bisexual-woke lyric in Cypher pt.3.   

- His intense relationship with his past male friend who went on a wrong way and end up being in jail who Yoongi mentioned in “Dear my friend” and his part in “Spring Day”.

- Whenever a BTS song have male pronouns, it almost always Yoongi parts (“Wishing on a star” for example)

- So enthusiastic about male x male interactions: 

+ “Flozen Flower” (a controversy 2008 Korean movie about bisexual love that both include gay and straight sex) clearly left an impression on him.

+ Pushed Taehyung and J-Hope more intense on legendary Vhope punishment-kiss.

+ Asked Jhope “is Zhou Mi (ex - Super Junior member) your ideal type” when Jhope said the two MC are his ideal type (there are 3 MC, 2 female MC + Zhou Mi).

+ Outed Jin not received any Valentine gifts because he was study in all boy school (Jin was so panic lmao).

+ Shouted boy crush directly to Namjoon and Jin when Namjoon said he really moved because Jin helped him lifted his suitcase out of airplane. 

+ Said “you two are not even a couple” to Jimin and Jungkook when they talked about their fight on a rainy day at BTS 2020 Festa.

- Have a soft spot for J-Hope, said J-Hope sister is pretty because she looks like J-Hope with long hair. 

- The most open-mind member along with Namjoon on LGBT related issue. 

And then in 2017, Anan Japanese interview, when asked about how the member make your heart flutter, he was given J-Hope and his answer was ??

”... the two of us are men, why would my heart flutter” or other interpretation “ ... I don’t flutter for him because my heart don’t flutter for guys”

(I have seen a lot of people take this as the ultimate evidence to prove Yoongi is straight whenever somebody uses the 2014 Interview to discuss his bi/pansexual possibility)

Tbh I’m so confused.

Any thought on him ?

A lot of these things other members have said similar or exact things. It’s just teasing. Also the ideal men type sounds more like he was listing men he wishes he could look like, something men and women both commonly do. Not really related to sexuality. 

3 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

Honestly in hip hop many rappers use lyrics like yoongi did. This does not mean that I think he is straight, I definitely think he is either bi or pan. But the guy loves hip hop and he grew up listening to rappers saying "men can suck their dicks" it's more ment to be offensive rather than a confession that they are into men as well. For me it is his behaviour and vibe that tells me he isn't straight at all. 

Exactly. That lyric was not a confession of his bisexuality, he was saying his rapping is so good every gender will be pleased, but made an innuendo out of it like many rappers do lmao. 

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Not a giant enhyphen stan, but I will watch a video of theirs if It pops up...my opinion:

Sunoo, blatantly gay lmao 

I won’t comment on Niki and Jungwon cause they’re very  young 

Sunghoon is straight 

Heesung seems straight

Jay seems straight

Jake is sus possibly bi or gay

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3 hours ago, TataBoo said:

The way so many younger idols that give me lgbtq+ vibes/ping have Taehyung as their role model/bias in BTS-

TXT Beomgyu(sometimes, not so sure)

Enhypen Sunoo

Wanna One Jihoon

The Boyz Younghoon

Treasure Haruto(yes him too)

Ateez Mingi

Former X1 member, now soloist Kim Wooseok

Do I need to go on? And no, I'm not just listing these boys saying if they like V they have to be attracted to guys, but out of his numerous fanboys these are the few that stand out to me, especially my boy Sunoo who has great taste. There are some who are obvious to me like Younghoon, Sunoo, and Jihoon while others not so much but still are on the radar.

 

 

 

Jihoon (has anyone is kpop ever been this obvious about wanting a fellow idol like oh my days) and Sunoo’s crushes are so obvious that it’s just kinda funny at this point how they can get away with it as along as they don’t say they like men lol 

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Also this will always be sus for me lol the way before he even decided to stir the pot he was genuinely confused and suspicious  I mean correct me if I’m wrong maybe it’s something GOT7 do all the time (I don’t keep up with them), but it seems like he started teasing because it’s Taehyung, not because he contacted him...

 

Something about this is making alarm bells go off 

https://tenor.com/view/mark-taehyung-hug-bts-got7-gif-7320099
 

https://tenor.com/view/mark-taehyung-bts-got7-hug-gif-7320106
 

Idk something about their interactions...not the touching, but the eyes lol. Don’t get me wrong I don’t actually think they were dating but why does Mark lowkey look interested and Tae like he’s entertaining it...

 

Let me know if I’m being delusional though lol

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14 hours ago, lilymul said:

Im not very sure but it seems that the group had a bit of difficulty dealing with taehyung in the earlier stage especially the hyungline. This might be only me but it seems that jin and suga clearly favored jimin and jungkook lol.

When they debuted Jin said he was closest to Taehyung so I wouldn’t say so