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Hello everyone! I am new and I have been reading this thread for awhile now. I wanna know what you guys think about Doyoung from Nct. Do you think he is just an ally or part of the community himself?

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3 hours ago, Haechanniedreamy said:

Tbh the only guys in nct that I fully think are gay are ten and jungwoo 

I like things that are soft and sticky in my mouth ~ ten 

but bi’s in the group is a whole different story lol. 

What about Taeyong? I can't picture him being anything else but gay.

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1 hour ago, TataBoo said:

May I ask why you think Taeyong is gay? I was thinking he could be bi, but the majority of Nct's fandom seem to think he is gay.

Here are some things under the spoiler which make me think Taeyong is gay

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Well.....First of all, he has never shown interest in women in 4 years (!!!!!!) of his career, but appears to be visibly blushing around men (Baekhyun, Royaldive) and becomes all giggly. 

There is also this legendary interview: 

His lyrics in some songs (BDLI, Whiplash) are also kinda questionable. His answers to ideal type questions in interviews are very vague.
He is also not heteronormative at all, which has nothing to do with his sexuality per se but it is worthy of mentioning in my opinion. 

There is still so much more about him, that I have probably forgotten to mention. Somewhere on this thread is a list of all the sus things Nct members have done. If I find it, I will link it. 

Edit: Found it ^^ 

https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay/page/3076/

 

 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, TataBoo said:

Thank you! I think Taeyong is someone despite all these obvious signs of being gay he shows, could possibly be in denial or in the closet. What do you think?

I think he used to be in denial but he is not anymore. In 2016-2018 he used to get all panicked as soon as someone implied something non-heterosexual. He also genuinely started panicking when someone implied that TY is actually super soft irl and not really how he used to present himself. Now he goes around and tells Doyoung that he wants to be with him even in nursing school in all seriousness, which is not straight at all. 

And I think most gay idols are in the closet (the exceptions are Jo Kwon, Key, Ryeowook, Ren and maybe Sehun and Ten)

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16 hours ago, Thatoneuser said:

I could see him being asexual 

I used to think that too....but then I read the translation of his self-written raps......and yeah, he writes about his sexual fantasies and just in general about sex a lot.

 

20 hours ago, Acapella said:

I remember in the beginning with Haechan having the most ships in NCT I wondered if he did like guys cuz he was so open with everyone and it really didn’t look like he cared what other people thought about him and he kissed or hugged whoever whenever. It is initially actually why I became his fan in the first place but the more I focused on him I realized he literally never alludes to anything romantic. Other than random things like wanting someone who can sing well.
 

He’s so hard to place cuz he treats everyone exactly the same. He has the same attitude and skinship with Mark as with Jeno as with Jaemin. From some behind the scenes stuff I’m fairly certain he is into girls but I’m kinda curious to know if he’s straight or bi. People like him are really so hard to figure because they know exactly how fanservice works and they’re super confident. And when they’re also the maknae in the group it becomes a whole mess  

I'm probably gonna get downvoted for this, but I think Haechan is straight. I think he is very secure in his masculinity and that's it. He gets VERY uncomfortable when others do fanservice/are getting close (He screamed 'ewwww' once when Jeno and Jisung had to hold hands)
 

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That's the moment I'm referring to:

 

He seems like one of those femme straight guys that are jokingly very touchy but are straight af. Tbh he isn't even THAT feminine. 
Btw I think the same about Jaemin: Very touchy but very straight.

But Jeno on the other hand..... 👀

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On 7/14/2020 at 5:36 PM, TataBoo said:

I'm curious about Jeno since a lot of people are finding him sus now. Tbh I literally thought he and Jisung were the straight boys of NCT Dream, but now I'm doubting it lol. From Jisung and Chenle's interactions I get a friendly vibe but also a little bit of attraction from Chenle's side. Can you tell me more about Jeno and why people think he's lgbtq?

 

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7 minutes ago, TataBoo said:

Korean nctzens made a gay chart?? I-

 

Yeah in like early 2018. I can remember how they said Doyoung is a 'prisoner of korean style denial' lmao. 

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No ship is real in Nct Dream in my opinion. 
Jaemin is clearly straight af, but just really affectionate (same with Haechan tbh)
Renjun is also straight in my opinion, but clearly supports the community.
The only thing which makes people think Jisung isn't straight, is his 'love' towards Chenle, which can easily be explained since Jisung doesn't have any friends outside of Nct and Chenle is the closest to his age out of the entire group. They literally grew up together and Chenle is the only one that is almost his age.
Jeno is sus af. If I had to choose one member of Nct dream that could possibly be LGBT, it would be Jeno. 
Chenle could literally be anything and I wouldn't be shocked tbh. 

Nobody asked, but here is my opinion on Nct127 and WayV cuz I feel like it

Taeyong is one of the two members that, I'm sure of, are gay (the other one being Ten)
Taeil is straight in my opinion. And that Yutaewin love triangle was fanservice at its finest.
Johnny is the straightest member, not only in Nct127 but out of all 21 members. Johnten are just friends and the reason why Ten likes him the most is maybe because of the fact that Johnny is super sweet and not judgemental at all. 
Yuta has clearly expressed his interest in women, but something tells me he isn't that straight, maybe he is pan.
I don't know much about Kun, but I think he is straight. Maybe I'm wrong and I just need to start paying more attention to him.
Thinking about Doyoung's sexuality makes my brain hurt. There are days where I think he is straight, then bi, then gay, then again straight.....I came to the conclusion that he is probably not straight, don't know if bi or gay.
Ten is gay and there is no denying. NEXT.
I think Jaehyun is straight. He used to ping me way more back in the day, but now.....
Winwin seems just like a cool straight guy in my opinion.
This might be controversial but I think Jungwoo isn't the 'gay king' most people in this fandom make him out be.........
Lucas is so obviously straight (same with Mark and Yangyang). Lucas, Yangyang and Mark remind me of a few straight guys I know irl. Especially when it comes to Mark reacting to skinship lmao.
Xiaojun is straight in my opinion. Sometimes I have a few doubts, but then I drop them quickly.
Hendery is a mystery for me. Something tells me he isn't straight, but that's just a feeling.



 

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On 7/16/2020 at 6:30 PM, Kpop_fan178 said:

I see that your opinion is A LOT based on stereotypes. To me it looks like this list was made by a straight person.

I expect to be negged but come on, with all the receipts in this thread (sometimes i wonder if the new users even bothered reading the thread before posting) there is no way there are only 2 gay members in the whole NCT. Especially knowing what kind of people this industry attracts. And this is SM btw.

 

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4 hours ago, persuasions said:

hello , here some jikook in high definition. I think we discussed this long time ago and it was just jk comforting his bro bts style but to me it just shows that they are very close to each other intimately. To all shippers, I am not a shipper I just believe that both are LGBTQ+ and have great chemistry.

Are they together romantically?IMO obviously not cause bh will not promote them as much, but in the end I do not know or care to discuss romance so pls no romantic shipping responses to this. But u can all reply with clips of these 2 being physically attracted to men and each other:)

The questions I respond to:

do they like men? yes. Plenty of receipts to back this up in this thread. 

do they seem to have had experience with men? yes. Plus fooling with each other behind close doors could have happened too.

P.S. romantic shipping bothers me cause it has an emotional factor that makes me highly uncomfortable. It is a different kind of business than speculating if someone is part of our community. Of course a real romantic bond will prove that without a doubt but I really do not like to speculate about it

I'm sorry, but no bts ship is real in ANY way (Like I genuinely do not believe Jungkook or Jimin have experimented with each other) 
Everything we see is fanservice and I REALLY DOUBT Jungkook and Jimin would be that comfortable around one another, if they 'fooled' with each other.....

This might be an unpopular opinion on this thread, but I think Jimin is straight. Don't know about Jungkook tho...
Like show me one instance in which he genuinely shows attraction to men (and not in a joking way like with that black interviewer or Tony from AHL) Jimin has literally almost the least amount of receipts and the 'receipts', that are there, are not that deep... On the contrary I can name countless of instances in which he seemed attracted to girls. Namjoon has way more receipts and people think he is the 'token het' of bts.

Armys on twitter literally lose their shit when someone tells them that Jimin has never had any 'connections' to the LGBT community and is just a guy that is very comfortable in his masculinity. 

And what tells you he had experience with men?

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33 minutes ago, persuasions said:

ohh did not know that he has 0 receipts and he is on the "straight" list in bts when he is friends with a lot of people that seem not to be, from Taehyung to his other idol friends. I am sorry but all bts members have receipts and yep, I think all of bts are at least sexually fluid enough to experiment with men if are not gay. Plus their bpd ceo screams gay too so I expect him to support them while keeping them safe and to hire a lot of gay/lgbtq people. Why experiment with jk, just an impression but could very well be wrong I do not care. We can bring jimin back in this thread or not, it is up to the thread readers and discussions are nice no?

My personal impression on bts: Namjoon bi, Jin bi, Hobi bi/gay, Yoongi bi, Taehyung gay, Jimin bi, Jungkook bi

 

I didn't say he has '0 receipts'. I said his receipts are not really convincing and I never said you shouldn't bring him up, I just stated my opinion.

Yeah I agree that Bang PD is sus af but how does that correlate with the members and their sexualities??????

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On 7/20/2020 at 9:32 AM, Inherited Light said:

My gaydar tells me Doyoung and Jungwoo are definitely gay. Johnny, Mark, and Taeil are straight. The rest are either bisexual, pansexual, or asexual. 

 

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57 minutes ago, krystaljxng said:

In my opinion it's pretty unlikely that he'd say something like this as "fanservice". The situation was that a fan asked him this one-on-one, so he wouldn't even have known she was recording it and that it would be spread online. Secondly, she asked him for his ideal type and he was the one who asked "boy or girl?" instead of just giving one of the standards answers. You can hear in the recording that the OP was surprised by his question. So I personally think it's a small chance that he did this only for fanservice. Anyway here's a twitter thread with some more receipts for those interested (the OP obviously thinks of him as bi where I'd sooner say gay, but still) 

Here's what I think of the rest of Stray Kids:

Gay: Felix, Lee Know
Straight: Bang Chan, Han, Seungmin, I.N.
???: Changbin, Hyunjin

I'm just getting into Stray Kids, so my opinion might be complete bullcrap but here it is:

Chan: straight
Minho: gay 
Changbin: bi ???? (or maybe straight)
Hyunjin: gay, bi, idk at least not straight
Jisung: straight
Felix: gay 
Seungmin: straight
Jeongin: straight

1 hour ago, 3/4illustrator said:

Please shed light on Jaehyun. Tbh he's still an unreadable ??? to me.

As for Doyoung, I know he's a big ally (YES!) and I think he's on the queer spectrum too, but I'm wondering what makes people think that he's gay/not straight?

Doyoung is either very gay himself or his brother. (And I strongly think DY himself is gay)
Like why would he mention that out of the blue in that one vlive? He didn't have to. He gained nothing from it on the korean side. (He probably got scolded by the manager afterwards and according to the way Yuta and Lucas looked at the manager, I'm just gonna assume they all know they shouldn't say things like that in front of camera.)
Doyoung also gets seemingly flustered around guys. Like it's not the way Mark panics (you know, pushing the members away because he is uncomfortable), Doyoung seems genuinely flustered. On the contrary, can you think of an instance in which he seemed attracted to girls?
I know he has that dating rumour with Taeyeon.....but it's just a rumour and people make up rumours all the time.

And now onto Jaehyun:
Jaehyun hides a lot of his real personality. (that's a popular opinion in the fandom at least) I actually think it's super sad that he cares so much about his image nowadays....like Taeil literally called him gay and he was like 'So what?' and nowadays he tries so hard to be the heterosexual prince Charming every girl falls in love with. I think he is 100% attracted to girls, but at the same time I cannot forget all the instances in which he flirted with men and said AND did not-so-straight things from back in the day. So yeah....I think he is bi but he hides that side of him that is attracted to men. 

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47 minutes ago, Sugar Daddy said:

LMAO at that one user who thinks not even 1 member of BTS is straight. Come on what are the odds? Take off your rainbow glasses and see the world in realistic colors. Most of the receipts (not just for BTS) are 95% fanservice.

Personaly, I think V is gah and the rest are just VERY supportive, that's why they talk about LGBT a lot. Which is AMAZING! One can wish for that kind of friends.

(That DOES NOT MEAN I think the rest of the members are straight, I simply don't have strong opinion about them, my gayradar is rusty and broken)

YES, YES, YES AND AGAIN, YES!!!!!

Taehyung is the only member that has shown genuine attraction, as in not for the laughs (reference to Jimin and that interviewer or Tony) or for the sake of fanservice (literally every bts ship). Jimin is the king of fanservice. I love him so much, but like, he is straight. 
I think Taehyung is gay and I kinda side eye Jungkook and Yoongi. The rest are straight in my eyes.

 

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32 minutes ago, Bushi said:

Because I think it's become a straight girl's thread to push their points about who isn't LGBT+.

Any mention that someone they fap over may be into guys they clown and run like cowards. 

There's literally tons of examples if you go back over the thread or the history of these groups. 

To say Taehyung is the 'only' member of BTS who has shown 'genuine attraction' (like, how do you even measure that as an outsider?) is one of the most blinkered things to say imo. Differing pov are no problem, but at least explain given the amount of info that's been put here over the years. Which is worthy of sensible discussion. 

RM alone probably has the biggest list of receipts of anyone in BTS, yet he almost totally flies under the radar because the majority of this fandom is molly coddled by its own insistence that these men are their personal spirit animals, presidents and saviours.  

Wow....that's mean....just because of an opinion on something we will probably never know anyways.
I'm not even a freaking army, so why do you take my opinions to heart and become so emotional? Namjoon, any Bts member or any idol in general is definitely not my spirit animal or saviour. 

And I'm now a straight girl that faps over her idols???????Because of my opinion??????
Girl/Boy/Whatever you identify as, get a reality check....stop saying that people that have doubts over an idol being LGBT, just because they don't want to be delusional, are straight 'Oppa is mine and likes girls' fangirls......
I'm an 18-year old european lesbian girl that literally has a girlfriend.....I thought I could give my opinion because I thought everyone's opinion is appreciated....

There is no need to be so passive aggressive over a comment on the internet over something we will most probably never get to know

I'm also not a coward because I literally just woke up since I'm from Europe.

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4 hours ago, Chika Chika said:

Stray Kids on a whole are very hard to read. Ngl. All of them are supportive and sometimes them showing support can be read in the wrong way.

Lee know is the only one who has always strongly pinged me can't exactly say he is gay, he could be Bi with a male preference. I'm too lazy to find it now but in one 'Two Kids Room' Lee Know had mentioned something like 'I like younger boys' I would actually be very surprised if he would be straight. Also the time he asked Jisung if he likes him in that way or something like that and Jisung was genuinely confused and asked him 'In which way Hyung?'

The rest are very on and off to me.

The second person who pings me is Hyunjin. He used to ping me the most but my opinion has changed since a lot of people think he is straight, that made me reconsider my decisions. There was a person on this thread mentioning how friend circles can be important to determine sexuality indirectly since they live in a very homophobic environment and for idols it can be way worse. The person mentioned that Soobin being a part of the LGBTQ+ is probably one reason why he must've gotten close to Daehwi and made me think that Hyunjin too is very close to Daehwi. Now I'm not saying anyone friends with Daehwi are compulsorily gay, maybe he is just very friendly person but to me it's really suspicious that everyone who he is close to Daehwi is mentioned time and again in this thread. Also notice Hyunjin's body language. He is super clingy but that could just be him being affectionate. So, overall i'm confused about Hyunjin.

I've seen people mention Seungmin a lot but to me he is hard to read and comes off as very quiet reserved, also he seems very passive since he does not talk a lot. To me, he is straight. If anyone thinks otherwise then please feel free to tell me why.

Jisung to me is very straight, since we don't have hard receipts except for him being shipped with Lee Know a lot. There is no hiding that Jisung is attracted to women. Also I might be reading too much into it and I don't know what their friendship dimension is in real life [off camera] but it looks like Lee Know is more invested and attached to Jisung that Jisung is wih Lee Know. Now I'm not saying Jisung is not close to Lee Know, I just think it's one of those friendships where one best friend is super social with others while the other bestfriend is not that social and always clings to that one person, but Lee Know does talk with the other members only seems very touchy with Jisung, but all the touchiness could be fan service. The reason I say this is because in an interview all the members had to pick a best friend and Lee Know picked Jisung but Jisung ended up picking someone else and Lee know thought Jisung would choose him. 

Chan is straight but at the very same time he looks like a very broad minded person who is ready to try stuff out, also makes me think that if there is a time that he is alone with a boy and the time and environment is right and the boy makes a move on him he would just go along with it. 

Changbin is confusion to me. 3Racha on a whole gives me very straight men vibes [because some of their lyrics are like--- yeah. makes it very hard for me to see them as anything but straight] but in 3Racha if there was someone who could be Bi or Gay it would definitely be Changbin. Apart from his hardcore rapper image his off stage persona is very soft in comparison.

Everyone says I.N is straight. What I do think is that we can't determine cause he has said a few things that makes me think he is really being pressurized to keep up with that youthful baby image. In their music videos not so much but if you watch their 'Finding Stray Kids' some things he says makes me feel like he really needs to protect that image and is being made to. When in a recent episode he said 'Don't take the call because my omma told me not to pick up strangers calls' it kinda made me-- ??.. So anything he says or does is either baby or neutral. I know this is a dumb explanation but something tells me he is not free to express himself. If he ends up rapping or singing anything close to what 3Racha does the fandom would go mad. I.N to me looks like he is not interested in anyone like that, like he either doesn't see gender or is very uncomfortable with almost everyone. It's weird I can't explain. Seen very few interactions of him with girls but it just makes me feel he is very aloof, like physically. Hates touchy behavior, no skinship. I'm just sharing what I saw in him, if anyone wants to say or add anything in please do.

Now FELIX, He is confusion to me. In the beginning I said that Stray Kids are extremely hard to read cause they are very supportive and that support can be read in the wrong way. Felix to me is Bi. The things that the above thread mentions are just very subtle. Him recommending songs are not a hardcore sign, it just only shows that he supports, There were people who said he recommended a TV Show 'Please like me' [That has a Gay character as a lead role] but later it turned out that it was actually the fan that recommended the show to him not the other way around. The videos of him crushing over Changbin and the kiss [sorry but] it means nothing to me. The only real signs he's shown that he is Bi is with cuffed Jeans, that even I didn't know were a thing, even though I am Bi myself but that could be taken as a major sign, also that famous time when he asked that fan "girl or boy?" when he was being asked about his ideal type (and imo, if you hear the audio the fan looked genuinely stumped) but as someone in this thread mentioned it kind of felt shippy when he literally said 'Changbin' but then again it was really brave of him to literally take the name of a member and maybe he just likes emo boys. But still it kind of felt very shippy when he said Changbin outrightly but I'll still take that as a sign.

I have seen a lot of stays on twitter calling Jeongin gay, is there a special reason for it or is it just for fun? I just wanna know cuz I don't want to overlook something.

Hyunjin is interesting. Didn't he say something like a M/V about a gay teenager gave him hope? 

Felix is either a very enthusiastic ally or LGBT himself, so basically he just confuses me as much as Doyoung from NCT lmao. The way he reacted to that fan telling him about his LGBT fans was so genuine....I love him for that.

Minho is not straight, like at all imo. I've seen some fans joking about how Minho fell for a straight guy (Jisung) cuz he is so much more invested in their friendship as you already mentioned. I genuinely hope that's not the case cuz falling for straight people sucks (speaking from experience)

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And since I'm talking about Minsung....have y'all seen this? It made me so sad cuz it made me realize once again how homophobic Korea is (and a lot of other places in this world are.)

 

17 hours ago, mariecita said:

Hello! I've been following the discussions made on this thread for a while but it's my first time posting 

I've been an nctzen since early 2018 and after seein most of the "receips" in this thread I would like to share my thoughts on nct/wayv members

(english is not my first language so I apologize if there is any mistake)

NCT127

Taeil: straight - the only time that I was kinda confused about him was when nct127 went to nct night night and Doyoung said that he had a "serious talk" with him about his feelings for Winwin. Of course, this could have been for fanservice but... it was a weird comment tbh. Anyway, I think is kinda obvious that he is into women 

Johnny: straight

Yuta: straight/bisexual - He is into women for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if he likes men as well

Taeyong: Bisexual

Doyoung: I have no idea, every time I tried think about him my mind just went blank... BUT I do believe that he likes women so maybe bi?

Jaehyun: straight 

Jungwoo: gay/bisexual

Mark: straight

Haechan: straight

NCT DREAM

Renjun: straight

Jeno: same as Doyoung... I have no idea, he's hard to read 

Jaemin: straight 

Chenle: straight

Jisung: I'm not sure... since he only interacts with the dreamies is hard to elaborate an opinion on him

WAYV

Kun: straight

Ten: gay/ bisexual

Winwin: straight

Xiaojun: straight

Lucas: straight

Hendery: again, no idea

Yangyang: straight

 

 

The LGBT members in Nct are Taeyong, Yuta, Ten, Hendery, Jeno and maaaaaaybe Chenle, Jaehyun and Doyoung in my opinion.

Can anybody show me some 'receipts' of Jungwoo? Some receipts outside of fanservice? I really wanna know why there are so many people that are sure he is gay. I'm genuinely curious.

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Sorry if there are any grammar mistakes and sorry if I worded things weirdly. My first language is not english and it's pretty late in my country rn.

 

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23 minutes ago, 3/4illustrator said:

I know the consensus here think Renjun is straight, but it's a nice cover regardless 🥺
Also must say I'm surprised SM allowed him to sing the F-word lol

People here always compliment Doyoung, Felix, Vernon etc for being such great 'allies'; which is great and definitely no problem.................but I never see people talking about this:

Since you mentioned Renjun I suddenly remembered this. I have never seen anyone mention this moment on this thread.... 

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18 minutes ago, 3/4illustrator said:

Good point 🤔 I definitely have came across the tweet before, and now I wonder why I've overlooked it in the past. Maybe because of East Asian collectivist culture where one should mind one's own business in the first place, so I didn't see it as active proof (sorry for the lack of a better term) of RJ being a LGBTQ+ ally? Or maybe I just didn't pay attention to RJ at that time lol... I need to know the context where he spoke about his thoughts on the song before making further comments (personally I'm always skeptical on translations, and prefer to go to the original source if I know the language). By chance do you or anyone have the audio/video clip?

From 21:53 to 26:00. Watch the whole exhibit! It shows how much of a great person Renjun is. He is definitely not saying that because of the 'minding your own business culture'. They even talk about how the world is much more open minded and how people are more open to things that are 'different'.

And yeah, for some reason 3/4 of the fandom don't even know this moment exists or just choose to pretend it never happened. 

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3 hours ago, zakizo said:

I feel kind of weird asking this, but I've seen a few NCT lists on here with Haechan labeled as straight. However he's always seemed pretty definitively gay (or at least bi/pan leaning more towards boys) to me?

To be fair I've only really consumed NCT content through my friends who like them, however I was still surprised to see there were a decent amount of people who think he's straight. Why is that?

Haechan is very touchy and a king of fanservice, he is not as masculine as Lucas but he is also not the flamboyant 'I don't give a fuck about gender roles' boy some nctzens potray him to be, his interest in girls doesn't seem fake at all (who knows...mayhaps he is a good actor but it's pretty convincing) and as soon as the camera isn't focused on him and others do gay fanservice, he acts all disgusted and pulls a face (He once screamed 'nooo that's ewww' when Jisung and Jeno had to hold hands)

Oh and what do y'all think of Jungwoo's and Doyoung's relationship? I usually don't believe in ships but they seem quite......interesting.

And here is something about Hyunjin:

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, shineestan said:

im gonna say it bc you guys are too scared; chenle sus

Elaborate please!
He kinda gives me vibes but I don't know if he has ever done anything sus

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11 hours ago, RMPA said:

Jeno and looks like it's his ex boyfriend

Maybe I'm blind or something but that doesn't look like Jeno to me. And even if it was Jeno, I don't know how you concluded that they are/were boyfriends

 

Different topic: Have you guys seen this? Any thoughts?

What are your opinions on Jinyoung? (or the other members of GOT7)

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On 8/29/2020 at 4:03 AM, gayobersever said:

What your guys honest opinion on Jungwoo 

tbh at this point i don't even know what to think about him. I don't think he is gay because I don't think a closeted LGBT person would do so much excessive fanservice, like he literally said right in front of camera that the people editing the nct videos should not cut him being on Mark's lap out...I mean I don't think a closeted lgbt person would say something like that... (at least I wouldn't but in the end of the day everybody's different so Idk...)
So many people are sure of him being gay but I have my doubts...

And now my opinion on the whole norenmin discourse:
I still think Jaemin and Renjun are straight (with Renjun being an ally) and Jeno is the only sus one. I think neither nomin nor noren is real in a romantic way.

 

On 8/29/2020 at 4:13 AM, gayobersever said:

A bit random but how soon do you think an idol will come out? International idols have their countries they can escape to if everything turns to shit

idols that are not..well

or i can see an idol coming out when they're 45 and no one cares about them

or an idol that completely leaves the idol scene and opts for regular life coming out

i just do not see an active idol coming out

it is career suicide 

I think it will take at least 10 years until someone will come out on their own. I also think the first popular idol to come out will be forced out of the closet (like something will get leaked, like text messages, videos, photos, voice recordings etc). I'm kinda scared of it but if nobody wants to do the first step (not even Jo Kwon), it will happen eventually and that's gonna be the first popular idol to come out then.

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