singularstigma 344 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) I’ve been reading this thread for quite a while now, since well before the crash but never made an account. I did join Hallyuland when that was around though. Now that the Taeyong situation has arisen I just wanted to add my own thoughts as another gay guy. I didn’t particularly want to bring this back up again but it is an important topic. From everything that I’ve read on here up until now it’s generally been accepted that Taeyong is gay but once this information was revealed as true it appears there’s been a backtrack on that assumption (maybe I’m miss interpreting) and I can’t understand why. So much evidence pointing to him being gay is suddenly invalid why? Like it or not, this won’t change the fact Taeyong has a long list of receipts that suggest he’s gay. I in no way want to justify what he said at all. That said, I do want to try and come up with some sort of explanation as to why he may have done that. I still am very sure that Taeyong hasn’t got a single heterosexual bone in his body. I think this might have been a case where he didn’t want to accept his own sexuality or maybe he was very insecure about it and in order to hide it, shield himself or deny himself he took to being homophobic. To me at least that would seem plausible especially given how homophobic Korean society is today not to mention a few years ago when this incident would have taken place. This happens even in societies not even half as hostile as South Korea. Does this excuse the fact he made a homophobic remark at one stage that may have hurt the target? No, of course not, nor does it forgive way the other victim was treated. But it doesn’t mean we should write off the presumption that Taeyong himself is gay. This isn’t the note I wanted to join in on this forum on but I felt I needed to comment so here I am. Feel free to disagree of course, but it’s worth taking into consideration. Edited October 12, 2019 by singularstigma Error with wording 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, raspberry84 said: I think it's more than just the homophobic joke, it's his bullying behavior in general and the fact that he doesn't actually come off as being remorseful for what he did. Their official response to the message being posted was "It was harmless joke between friends." That isn't even any apology nor does he show any remorse. The person he apologized to, I believe, is a different individual who also claims to have been bullied by him in the past (although I might be mistaken on that). Regardless of his sexuality this isn't a great look. That’s why I was trying to make the distinction, having a history of bullying does not mean he’s not gay, it means he bullied people. That’s it. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, jinsoulmate said: i know this is probably an overused query, but i was curious about everyone's opinions on the bts member's sexualities? (particularly those who frequent this thread often) I’ve come to the conclusion that V and Jungkook are gay. Yoongi and Jimin are bisexual. RM, JHope and Jin are straight. But Jin confuses me sometimes, now and again I get the feeling I might be wrong about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 SuperM seems like a collection of idols that aren’t straight tbh. Only Lucas and Mark seem straight to me but maybe that’s just because I’m not as familiar with them. That said, Mark is making me go hmmmm more and more. Ten, Taemin, Taeyong, Baekhyun and Kai on the other hand I would be fairly certain are gay or bi. 2 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Parkney Bomston said: First time posting in this thread so I don’t know how discussed these idols have been (and I’m not sifting through 3k pages) but the idols who I genuinely think are LGBT in K-pop are: Key from SHINee Jungwoo from NCT Everyone in WayV except Lucas and Kun Ryeowook from SuJu Jinwoo from Winner SungJong and Woohyun from Infinite Jo Kwon from 2AM Kwanghee from ZE:A Daehwi from Wanna One Dongpyo from X1 Joshua and Seungkwan from Seventeen Ren from NUEST Donghan from JBJ That one member in ONEUS who’s always bending over or bootie popping Kino from Pentagon Inho from in2it Almost half of The Boyz Then there’s idols who I think could be Bi or are ambiguous: Jonghyun from SHINee (RIP) Vernon and Jeonghan from Seventeen DongWoo from Infinite Felix and Seungmin from Stray Kids Jinhwan from Ikon Hongseok from Pentagon Jihoon from Wanna One Wonpil from Day6 (and Jae too but low-key) Only Inho in In2it? I think at least Inpyo and Isaac too. You didn’t include EXO so I’m assuming you don’t know them very well because Sehun in particular screams gay and is one of the first idols that would come to mind. Otherwise I agree with most of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just a theory here, I wonder if a lesbian idol and a gay male idol would pretend to date or be put “together” by a company in order to cover each other? That’s always a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Speaking of Tao, does anyone have that video where he gets quite flustered on stage because of that other male host? I’ve been trying to find it but can’t remember what it was from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Gerimolda said: Jinyoung being cute with Kim Kwon from He is Psychometric. He's def gay/bi imo just take a look at his instagram. His IG is full of Heath Ledger, Marlon Brando, Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy, and Hollywood male sex simbols in general, handsome guy models, some drag queens, Lady Gaga, and a bunch of references to Brokeback Mountain, Hedwig, Carol, Call Me By Your Name, etc. It could be a regular friendship or something more, I'm happy for him anyways but he would be so lucky in the second situation tho, Kim Kwon is so hot omg. This is so adorable, I hope we will see more of them around each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jjongjjong said: Sexual tension through the roof Dance gods? How about dance gays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I don’t think there’s anything wrong with discussing Jonghyun and I definitely don’t think it’s creepy or weird. Jonghyun was very likely to have been part of the LGBT community and I know for me and probably for a lot of other gay fans, this is such an important memory to hold of him. We remember his outspoken support and yes things he has said/done that would imply he wasn’t straight. 12 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Thatoneuser said: Which idols do you all think are for sure LGBTQ+? Like ones that are universally agreed on being LGBTQ+ in this thread. I would also include Key and Ten 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 22 hours ago, bb8__ said: add Junsu to that list. What else has he done that’s worth noting? I want to learn more about him after seeing those clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 11:54 PM, Gerimolda said: Oh boi. First he participated in a crossdressing contest when he was a teenager. But not only that, he won the contest too. She was really pretty ~ Super Junior's Eunhyuk was also a contestant His style and crossdress in Tarantallegra and his sensual and typically feminine dance moves in Intoxication. Around 2:54 I'll continue under spoiler because this post is gonna look huge lol Reveal hidden contents Freudian slip right here. His friendship with Eunhyuk is also worth noting. Look at the first pic of this tweet, the one that is a collage of 4 photos. Now look closely at the bottom right one. Their lips were very close... Their friendship alone would be remarkable, but who knows if they had something in the past, they give me that vibe. But that would be literally decades ago. He has kissed men twice in musicals. In one of them he was a gay character in Dorian Gray and in the other one he was like a personification of Death in Elisabeth. Here we have Jaejoong talking to him like none of them have kissed men before lmfao. How comfortable he is with Jaejoong. Like gay best friends, not like lovers. The bisexual vibes in this MV. Gotta apreciate the ripped men here you know. He reminds me so much of Magnus Bane, like you can scroll thought the comments and read people saying the same too. It's like he came out of the books. Magnus Bane is a bisexual character from Shadowhunters btw. He apparently stated this once. Really bold wow. I don't know which translation is better so I post them both. DBSK member once gave him as a present a shirt that read "Sorry girls I'm gay". They could be totally teasing him knowing that it's true. Not to be guided by stereotypes but I think that this is important too. He and the rest of JYJ members were ambassadors of unaids raising awareness about HIV. And that's all that I remember, I don't even know much about him. I think he's bisexual so his relationship with Hani doesn't invalidate my opinion on him. Now that you mention it, it’s interesting that he was with Hani. She is also widely speculated to be not straight from what I’ve read and seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, raspberry84 said: Taemin is a confusing one and I can never really figure him out. Honestly, some of his interactions with Jimin has come off as flirty and his friendship with Kai has been suspect at time. For me I think Taemin is gay, but Kai is a lot more confusing and has had me trying to guess for a long long time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, seashells said: He's obsessed with Red Velvet in what seems to be the same way a lot of gay men Stan female divas if anything. This is how I’ve always seen it, there never seems to be any sense of “I’m attracted to them” it comes across more like an excited “ahhh look it’s red velvet” or “I know this song and I absolutely will sing and dance along” sort of reaction. I remember seeing a compilation on YouTube of him watching some of their performances, Red Flavour in particular at various award shows and he was just living his best life fanboying them. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, MJr said: There was @burntgucci's nct masterpost a while back, but I can't find it. I think everyone has been brought up at some point lol, but most people seem to agree on ten (a given), taeyong is a frequent suspect, I think most of us think taeil is attracted to men after winil mess, junwoo is either super into fanservice or gay, doyoung gets brought up a lot too. Jaehyun too but idk about him. And also Mark, even though I personally don't see it. And I don't know much about the dreamies. There’s a link to the NCT masterpost on p3164 if anyone’s looking for it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 That Eunhyuk VCR has to be one of the most if not the most explicitly gay piece to come out of kpop recently (well apart from Holland of course). There was really no subtlety at all there and I think it’s very telling about him. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Has anybody got some receipts for Super Junior’s Siwon, I (and many others it seems) believe he’s gay but I just want to see more reasons why to back this up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 It honestly baffles me how much Suho escapes everyone’s radar when it comes to EXO. Outside this thread it’s almost unanimous that he’s the absolute het. It’s quite funny. Jongdae and Yixing stand out as the straight guys, definitely not Junmyeon. Aside from the whole Donghwan thing, some moments that really cemented it for me was when he without any encouragement interpreted that storyline as being gay while the other members were making different assumptions. Oh and Shinji and Kaworu lol. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bushi said: I know he's not 'technically' an idol but to me, Holland literally has the biggest balls of steel. He's got to face the military knowing he can't wriggle out of being gay. He'll have been open and out for years so there's no point in him turning up and claiming he's straight. And I don't think he would because he seems so honest and matter-of-fact about it. Which means he automatically faces the thinnest end of the wedge for soldiers; being labelled as a mentally deficient lunatic and/or watched like a hawk to make sure he doesn't 'molest' half the battalion. Not to mention the bullying and torment non-straight soldiers claim they've faced when other soldiers have found out they were gay or bi. And I absolutely believe them. Let's hope a few of these career crims in power make some positive changes by then, but I doubt it. I do worry about Holland. His honesty is so refreshing and pure, but he's also vulnerable in the face of a very harsh system for out gay males. The amount of bullying and assault in the Korean military directed towards those even perceived as being gay or in anyway different (and not just by other soldiers, but by those in positions of power too) appears to be unimaginably high so for someone to go into an environment like that open about their sexuality must be a prospect nothing short of terrifying. We can’t be sure how idols like Jo Kwon and Key are currently faring but they at least would be known where as with Holland, the overwhelming majority are unlikely to have ever heard his name so it’s not as if he’s going in with people knowing who he is. Edited January 19, 2020 by singularstigma 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 hours ago, persuasions said: Reveal hidden contents you are exaggerating everything regarding BTS Connect. Now Taehyung saying the art is dreamlike to Now can we get on track. Why is Yesung gay? Thank you. Yes yes yes I want to know more. I’ve been feeling this way too but didn’t say anything because I thought anything I had to say was too vague. He’s friends with Ten too if that counts for something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 When you put two and two together with Taeyong it really starts to show. Seems willing to be controlled (dominated?), photo shoot in a gay bar, stereotypical mannerisms, disinterest in the opposite sex and admission to liking his male teachers, claiming his ideal type and Ten’s match etc. One of those on their own sure, we could easily just brush past and not think anything of it. A desire to be dominated, stereotypical mannerisms and flustered reaction to gay situations may not necessarily be meaningful, however when everything else is thrown in too, then we can go “wait a minute, these are now actually quite significant” and it paints a very different picture. Almost like missing puzzle pieces to fill in the gaps. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ga_shina said: THIS MAN Must be really hard for idols who come from places that are more progressives to move and live in Korea. Yikes. I always wonder what Ten’s experience was like for example, coming from Thailand and then arriving in a Korea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gerimolda said: Not an idol but I swear that Kim Kwon gives more signals than a traffic light. He was in He Is Psychometric with Jinyoung from GOT7. Under spoiler every interesting thing from his IG. Heath Ledger, Marlon Brando, Matt Damon, Leonardo Di Caprio, Tom Hardy, and Hollywood male sex simbols in general, handome guy models, some drag queens, Lady Gaga and a bunch of references to Brokeback Mountain, Hedwig, Call Me By Your Name, etc. Reveal hidden contents This one is priceless. Dude's in love with Heath Ledger and Leonardo di Caprio. He seems to like Western culture a lot and he has also some feminist stuff on his account. I’ve been following him recently and there really isn’t the slightest smidge of het there 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularstigma 344 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, taeyong's panicked scream said: he's followed by jo kwon and a gay japanese model i follow called been (@beenishere) so hmmm that's more than enough to confirm he's at least an ally but also someone screamed support words at him and the actress beside him complimented his popularity lol but it sounded like it was a male fan?? he has every item from the one-hallyu-gay-speculation starter pack and his smile is everything edit: omg him and been use the same emoji in their bios lmao He’s also followed by Hong Seok Cheon, Edward Avila and a gay Japanese-Korean model couple. It’s quite obvious somethings up here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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