DMTN/Dalmatian (디엠티엔) Official Thread~

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^Yeah...it could be worse. I just hate any kind of bowl cuts. They are only cute on kids in my opinion

 

I think its cute how Dari's Instagram is iamdari and Inati's is iaminati. It makes me wonder if it was Dari that got Inati to join Instagram

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^You're right!

It was @iaminati then he changed to @iam2nati and now I guess his IG is no longer :sad:

On that note, there's been a lot of InatixDari bromance.

 

Edit: Nvm I found it. Its still there!

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^He just can't seem to make up his mind. He should have left it a iaminati. Maybe he's trying to throw off Dalmates

Because he didn't even tweet about changing it the third time

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Sorry,just another Inati-oppa pix because of the way his eyes look. Just priceless. So strong and tense. So handsome.

 

In an interview Inati said that he thinks his eyes look pitiful, but yet he said he still thinks his eyes are his best feature. Oh Inati oppa, you're so funny!

 

I'm just going to leave these right here

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Sorry I have been absent for a while guys. I have been chilling in the Nine Muses thread, because I was spending so much time here in the DMTN thread. I can't seem to divide my time evenly between NM and DMTN. So excuse me for being late to the discussion.

*sighs* 
If only ...
too bad they have been having bad luck since their debut ... i.e bad promotions since their debut, DayDay leaving (but Simon came in so I guess it's okay ..), MC Mong case, the marijuana case .. it's just too much  :sad:
 
How high of possibility do you guys think that they can make a comeback ?
 

Don't worry, I will take extra careful of him.  
 
He can be so dorky.

 
and oh so hot as well:

 
akjdsklfja <3 I'm serious about this guys! 
JISU IS MY BIAS IN DMTN NAO. 
 

LOL. Our dorky Daniel :3<3
I love sleeping too. I can sleep all day like you Daniel! Thus we should sleep together <3 (as in with our clothes on)

Oh you're Jeesu biased? I can dig it

Now I am feeling left out because I don't have a bias.

How high is the possibility that they're coming back? I'm nearly 100% sure that they are coming back. Now whats the possibility that they are coming back with Daniel and/or Dari? I'm not 100% sure on that one, and that's the thing I'm worried about. Now that Dari is out of the military I don't want DMTN to be 5 members and I definitely don't want them to be 4 members (that would be the worst case scenario at this point). DMTN is 2works cash cow. Even if they end up being only a 4 membered group, I don't think 2works would abandon them. I could see that happening if DMTN were still rookies but they're too much of an asset to get rid of. Even if 2works dropped them they have enough popularity for another agency to want to sign them. They're probably not able to go independent (free of an agency) like Rain did though.

Oh thanks and for the OP btw. I just realized that you're the thread starter.

They'll definitely make a comeback eventually. The question is whether or not they'll ever get beyond 'nugu' status.

Yeah Its like they take 2 steps forward and 1½ steps backward. Something always comes up and makes them lose momentum.

 

Here's what they need to do. DMTN or 2Works, if on the off chance that you are reading this, take notes:

• When they come back they are really going to have to promote like crazy and do a follow up promotion like really soon and simultaneously work on the next album and get that out quickly. They also need to be on an OST.
• Jeesu needs to be hosting or appearing on more variety shows like Star King (Maybe even Simon on Star King because I notice they re-invite idols who are good at a lot of things).
• The vocalists need to appear on 1000 songs challenge (its a popular show even for those that don't follow idols).
• They need their own show so that the general public can become reacquainted with them or appear on an already popular show like Hello Baby, Sesame Player, or We Got Married.
• Youngwon should get into acting.
• Inati should continue acting (it would be awesome if he could have a movie role).
• Simon should continue being featured on songs by other artists and participate in every Idol Olympics (because those things brought a lot of attention to DMTN).
• If Dari is returning I'm not really sure what he could do. He just might be one of those members that don't do anything significant outside of the group. Maybe he can be featured on other songs. He could also befriend more celebrities (all of his friends are either underground peeps or nobodies to the public eye). Maybe he could continue doing mix tapes and be one of those people that do their idol thing and their underground thing (like Block B's Zico).
• I know Dalmates aren't going to approve of this particular idea but it might not be a bad idea to promote a sub-unit. I'm thinking of a duo similar to Tasty that's very strong on the dancing. There's been a trend of subunit duos for girls but there hasn't been any male subunit duos (and Tasty isn't even a subunit). Definitely Simon should be a part of it and another member (I'm thinking Youngwon for some reason because he is similar in height to Simon, he can dance very well, and he can sing). .
• I don't know if Daniel has a future with hosting and acting and that makes me sad, I thought maybe he could participate in some kind of campaign against drug use, but I think that would just make people angry and call him a hypocrite. Instead, he should either lay low or put it out there that while he doesn't condone drug use, he isn't perfect and makes mistakes. Maybe a public apology. Not really sure about what Daniel should do to be honest.

And THIS

Try to get Jisu on Immortal Song or something so more of the public is aware that there is *talent* in this group. The next idol special on Running Man, try to get Simon on it; it would be great fun to watch him compete with the super competitive Minho and/or Yonghwa - this shouldn't be so very difficult - Haha knows them, he's buddies with Mongie, Intae, and Janggeunie.

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The vocal line DID 1000 Songs Challenge. -_- Not long before the scandal happened. They also appeared as a group on a music showcase show - with Duble Sidekick, since it was a producer special (Janggeun works SO hard for them and I honestly thinks he saves his best songs for them).

 

Inati's been on the Vitamin show (sort of a health education show, from what I could gather; they feature guests from different fields of entertainment and give them thorough physicals and then discuss their results - Intae was in 2nd best shape; the first place person was younger, a frontman for a rock band, a fitness buff, and a musical performer).

 

Jisu and... someone... were on a quiz show.

Oh yeah they did to 1000 Songs Challenge. I don't know why that completely slipped my mind. I don't remember the Vitamin show though.

I'm not sure what quiz show you're talking about though. Do you mean Star Golden Bell or 1 vs 100 or was it something else?

Oh yeah and that With Producers show was really good for them. So was Yu Huiyeol's Sketchbook

They need to get on a Gayo Daejun or something. I know they were on there but they didn't make it to the Main Stage. Poor things

I'm worried that the event in Japan at the end of next month is going to be their 'test run' to see if they can make it work without Daniel. And as much as I adore them, I don't honestly think they can. Dan is the vocal spine of the group. But I wouldn't really be surprised if he decided to withdraw from the group and come back to the States. I don't *want* him to... because I don't see them making it without his voice, and it simply won't feel like Dalmatian without the squishy maknae... but everybody knows by now that him staying makes the road forward much steeper than it already was. And with the flooded industry right now, it's already a steep incline.

 

Now I've just managed to depress myself.

 

 

Edit: Or they'll have to focus promotions for awhile outside of SK... but depending on the verdict for Dan's case, his travel may be heavily restricted... which brings me back to the idea of him leaving.

 

...dammit I thought I saw hope and then I dashed it myself.

 

Yeah, if Daniel leaves I can't see DMTN making it either. They might comback without Daniel but I can see them flopping really hard after that.

Maybe they could find another strong vocalist? It wouldn't be hard to find a really good young male vocalist. There is a sea of them out there

I don't think Day Day would want to come back (and Day Day wouldn't be able to fill Dan's shoes anyway because he's not only is he too old but he's also not a singer lol). Simon was the only mystery pre-debut member so its not like they have anyone lined up already that they could ask back.

 

Daniel is the face of DMTN but I think that Simon's popularity has risen so high that he could carry the torch. So even if Daniel leaves I think with Simon being the new face of DMTN + a new vocalist member + Dari then maybe they can make it work. Simon actually has a decent voice its just that he doesn't have any control.   His abdlibs are shit (nobody wants to say it and I have tiptoed around it long enough. I only say it because I care.)

but I think with some additional vocal training he might become a more reliable vocalist because he has a great tone and I see the potential there

Okay, so if they can't make it work without Daniel, I think that would be worse. That might make them drop DMTN completely. Now that makes me depressed.

The only person I can see succeeding outside of DMTN is Simon and maybe Jeesu but that's a stretch. Simon might not even want to go solo. He was doing management so he might decide to go back to Japan and do that (I know that Simon likes Japan better anyway. All of the 1/2 korean 1/2 japanese people I know say they like Japan better)

 

Okay, we gotta stop thinking negatively though. Lets think about the best case scenario.

 

 

And guys, I'm super salty about B1A4's win. Not because I have anything against them but because DMTN have been in the industry for 2 maybe 3 times longer than them and they haven't been close to a win.

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It might've been 1 vs 100; I don't recall that they got much screen time. =/

 

How does the Gayo Daejun thing work?

 

I'm sure they could find another strong vocalist... but it would also be weird to add someone new at this point. It hasn't turned out well for any group that's done it and it has the potential to backfire, since it throws the group dynamics off. Plus I think it would require another hiatus... while they all familiarize themselves and the new guy settles in and learns everything from scratch. I agree about Simon; he's not considered part of the vocal line for a reason. Which is why I don't think he would do well, solo. His own vocal ability is moderate at best and I don't think he has the cred, ability or even the desire to be a solo hip-hop/rap artist.

 

As for Jisu... I still think his voice is built for harmony, but if he can work on his chest voice and lower range, he could give it a go as a solo artist - his range kind of reminds me of K.Will, come to think of it, though K.Will's always been a solo artist, so he has the training and power that goes with it. 

 

Also not going to argue about B1A4's win. The comments on NB were just full of confusion, because the song wasn't charting well at all, and yet they won over songs that were charting much higher. Something to do with the fanvotes. =/ Banas are a reasonably strong fandom and they might have pulled out all the stops to get that win.

I'm not quite sure how Gayo's work myself. The artists/groups I like are rarely invited so I never really had much interest in them. I don't really think there is a system, they just invite the most popular groups (definitely those from the major 3). Then if anyone decides not to attend they fill them in with either another popular group that is willing to perform another song, or a nugu. As for the awards, I can't remember if they're based on votes but something tells me that they are chosen by Network or the people that plan the show. Hmm maybe it is based on votes, because I clearly remember voting for Block B or something for some type of rookie of the year award (and they didn't win lol).

 

The only time I have seen groups really get thrown off with member changes is when a lot of them leave at once. That's the only time I have seen a group completely disband due to member changes. I have actually seen more groups improve with the addition of a new member. There's not many examples for guy groups, as they usually don't have as much going with member changes, but for girl groups there's been many like Nine Muses, Dal Shabet, Girls Day, and EXID. All have become stronger and more popular with the addition of members. Dal Shabet for example didn't even have any down time at all. As soon as their member Vicki left they brought a replacement in almost immediately. Usually guy groups try to continue on with the members they have left though, girl groups usually find replacements (I have no idea why...maybe just coincidence). I don't want Daniel to leave, but i also don't want DMTN to disband so I was just thinking of a possible solution. Even if they do require a hiatus that's still better than disbanding.

I think we're on the same page about Simon. As for Jeesu, I don't think that its his voice that would inhibit him from going solo. Lots of male soloists have high voices (Justin Timberlake and Jeesu's idols Micheal Jackson and Maxwell) but I really don't think Jeesu has the type of image that's appropriate for a soloist. I just can't see it but maybe I am wrong.

 

I had no idea that B1A4's win was even a controversy. I don't really follow them (I only know one song of theirs "Beautiful Target"), all I know is that they're popular and that BANA's go hard for them. But sorry for bringing it, I really didn't know it was controversial

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Oh, I'm not upset that you mentioned it; I just remembered reading a lot of comments that were along the lines of, 'I've never heard this song' and '...but they're charting at 28?' It's the funky rating systems that differ from show to show that throw me off. I don't like the award system. Let the damned music shows be about *gasp* showcasing the music, not about whose fans got the least sleep because they were OCD clicking a vote button on a website or going broke because they bought multiple physical copies of a CD to bump the sales numbers. Viewership for those shows is down because it's almost ALL idols, and if you're not an idol, you have next to no chance to win anything, and people constantly argue about what numbers go into what shows and how those numbers are even calculated and whether or not they were manipulated. Guess what, broadcast networks! No assinine show-only ranking system, no controversy! No pissed off fans hating on other fans or other artists!

 

But they can't even manage to not ban artists for stupid reasons (*cough* Shinhwa SBS *cough*), so I don't foresee them getting their heads out of the asses enough to realize they're better off supporting the music than pitting fans against each other via confusing trophy metrics.

 

 

And I have absolutely no idea about girl group roster changes.   I don't follow any of them. I just know that it's few and far between for male groups. I can only think of DMTN and U-KISS having done it, actually... and as far as I know, there are STILL upset Kissmes about that whole... whatever that was that happened.

Not only is almost all idols but there's obvious favoritism toward those upper tier idols and idols from bigger companies. I can see why people are put off by it.

I have heard of some of those bigger companies in secret using their money and power unfairly in order to boost a particular artist/group (not exactly ethical but can I fault them?).

 

I think that is why male groups tend to either disband or continue with what members are left. For some reason fans of guy groups tend be less accepting and be more emotional when their bias gets replaced. The reason why Simon was receipted to well was because he was in the original line up, plus I think Dalmates tend to be more chill than fans of some other idols. I don't think that Daniel being replaced by a new member will go over well, but if it comes to that (god forbid) I fear that a lot of Dalmates will leave the fandom .

I'm trying to think of what could be the best case scenario.

We know that Daniel definitely won't be able to participate in the Japan concert. If they have a comeback before the year's end maybe by then everything surrounding Daniel's case will be settled down and he won't have a harsh sentence or be found innocent of his charges, and he will then return to the group.

 

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I like all your suggestions! 

Lol, we should all write a letter to 2works telling them our advice as Dalmates. Haha. I mean, we do know their email and stuff and it hurts nothing to try 

and it's nothing about me being the OP. Bin aka URIWAGEE was too lazy to do it so he asked me to do it when I asked him when he was gonna remake one, 

 

Ugh, i'm not super salty, but super bitter.   

 

Pretty sure for the Gayo that as long you're from big companies, have song(s) that charted well, and have quite a # of fans, you'd be invited for it ..... It broke my heart seeing DMTN just performing on the red-carpet  :sad:

Haha I don't know if I would personally feel comfortable with telling professionals how to manage a group.

I was being cocky with my suggestions but being that they are professionals they probably know a lot better than I do or even Dalmates as whole.

Maybe we should beg them to not let Daniel leave lol.

 

And I thought I was the only one who felt that way about the B1A4 thing. Well it's not that they won, it's just that DMTN haven't been close to winning that annoys me, but honestly I'm at fault. I am not a part of DMTN fancafe, and I don't obsessively vote for them, and I didn't buy 10 copies of each of their albums. There was definitely more I could have done for them

While I was disappointed that they had to perform outside in the snow in front of an unenthusiastic audience, I am happy that they were at least invited to the Gayo Daejun, because they had never been invited before. If they still exist, I can't see them not being invited for 2013 Gayo. Hopefully next time they can perform on the Main Stage, even if its just one song.

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Well, we know that sometimes the big companies are in bed with the networks - thus why JYJ can't promote on any of the music shows. I read an article that talked about music show PDs and how managers and agents for idols and companies have to curry favor to assure their artists get airtime to actually perform. It's quite ridiculous. I'll edit to link it, if I can find it again. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/behind-scenes-of-music-programs-singers.html

I really hope these injustices become fully exposed and dealt with.

As for the article, I'm not surprised. The PD's are doing too much. The public should raise hell at the networks and make them drop those PD's. If people boycott the networks they have no choice other than to get rid of them and hire new PD's that actually have a shred of decency and moral compass.

 

 

 

I would wager that guy groups tend to have more female fans, and we're an obsessive bunch.   It also helped with Simon that he's gorgeous and that David left on good terms (and frankly, he seemed unhappy in a lot of their interviews and shows), so it wasn't a case of Dalmates questioning the change so much. We've already lost some fans over this scandal, but I figure if smoking pot is going to be a deal-breaker for someone, that person is in for a rude awakening when they get out into the world.

 

As for Dan... he won't be found innocent; he's already pled guilty. The best we can hope for is that he only gets fined. His next court date is in about a week.

 

As for being able to do more... I can't afford to pay for shipping on *one* physical album, forget half a dozen of them. Music awards should *also* be given based on quality and critical reception, not sales. They have silver and gold and platinum rankings to mark sales... awards shouldn't be markers of popularity, but of substance. I get the impression that korean music award shows are almost all the equivalent of the VMAs and MTV MA shows here (fancy popularity contests), rather than the Grammys.

 

 

I'd rather those ex-dalmates leave the fandom than become an anti-fan. I can understand why they wouldn't want continue supporting DMTN but I am thankful for the fans that choose to stay.

 

LOL as you can see I know very little about law and the judicial system. I've actually learned a few things thanks to Daniel's case. Okay, lets just hope he gets a fine.

 

I was exaggerating a lot about being able to do more. I do believe I could have did more but I'm not buying 10 albums...that's just not going to happen. I won't even buy 2 unless I'm getting one as a gift for somebody.

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Sorry that I have disappeared the last couple of days.

Phew, I'm back now.

 

 

 

Sorry,for spamming,but i think this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo true. 

 

“I like scandals, they show who the true fans really areâ€

—  Zico (Block B)

 

 

Genius. Daniel's scandal was a test for dalmates and A LOT of them failed.

 

That's true. Even if fans didn't agree with what Daniel did, they are just going reject the group as a whole. Doesn't really make much sense to me.

I have been a fan since their debut and I ain't going no where.

 

 

Just for reference:

 

Intae: March 6th, 1981

Day Day: September 20th, 1983

Simon: May 29, 1986

Dari: July 4th, 1984

Donglim: April 1st, 1990

Jisu: July 28th, 1990

Daniel: Real: December 21, 1990 Registered: March 31, 1991

 

 

Woo, I am 6 days apart from Intae oppa's birth date 

Day Day's birthday is the day after mine.

Based on zodiac sign, I am the most compatible with Daniel and least compatible with Donglim.

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Dude, forget those fans. If it wasn't for Daniels scandal it would probably be somethings else. Those type of fans flake eventually. The good thing is I think it will bring the members closer to fans because they know we are in it for the long run and that we are their real supporters.

 

Does anyone know how many the number of members in DMTN fancafe before the scandal?

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No idea, but the official DMTN G+ page is closing in on 250,000 +1s (the equivalent to likes?)... and that's with no updates since mid-March.

I guess DMTN is more popular internationally. Their daum fancafe numbers is very small

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http://dalmatianph.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/fancam-130630-dmtn-we-are-friends-concert/

 

Well, I guess two fancams are better than none! Even if they did do Round One. And there's no Dari so it's just four of them.

 

They're not terribly synchronized on Safety Zone. Either that or I haven't watched it for awhile, but it looked like a few obvious missteps from both Intae and Simon early in the performance... and the backing track is quite loud... so I guess Dan's there vocally, though it certainly *looks* like they tried to give everything to Jisu.

 

Sorry I have been MIA Dalmates, school and the summer heat has been kicking my butt.

 

I am so happy to see DMTN on stage even though its only 4. I must say that I got a little misty seeing them like that.

But they did good considering. I mean, it itwasn't their best but they did put forth some effort.

I must also also say that they all looked really good .

Especially that Jeesu. The next thing you know I'm going to be Jeesu biased, because it seems like he gets better looking everytime I see him. 

As for Dari not being there, a little annoying considering he would've only had to learn Safety Zone, but he has been doing more modeling lately so maybe he didn't have time? Or maybe I'm just being delusional and the possibility is pretty grim .

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I wish that he didn't either. They could've been something more dynamic and so forth because their talent is just right there, and it's powerful. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if that was a motive that pushed David to leave, because that type of thing didn't even seem like him from the beginning - same with Dari because they remind me a lot like each other anyway.

 

Dalmatian's first album was EVERYTHING. If they had kept that thing up, they definitely would've been bigger than were they are at. Makes me sad sometimes, because I fell in love with them. 

 

I feel like I'm a curse sometimes lol, it's like my favorite groups never really make it where they actually deserve to be. They are so underrated compared to everything else. 

All of this. My favorite groups never make it either.

I still think there's still a little hope for Dari though.

I'm actually more concerned about Daniel not being about to come back to the group

DMTN can survive without Dari and David, but without Daniel who knows...

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See, I don't know. It's so hard to say where they would be if they'd gone a different direction, musically.

 

I keep thinking if they'd gone hip-hop, they would have been like Block B, only a couple of years earlier. I know they said (or at least Simon did and the others didn't disagree) that State of Emergency was closer to what they wanted to do than the first album. A little darker, a little more mature. LESS CUTESY (I don't like the cutesy. Not from people in their 20s and certainly not from 3 guys nearing or entering their 30s, that's just friggin' ridiculous). The first album did a lot to showcase them more individually without giving anyone a solo, really, and SoE was great at bringing them together and giving some group definition and sound.

 

I just really REALLY hope that album that's on hold makes it out eventually. They have too much talent to squander by leaving it to collect dust.

 

 

I worry about that, too. Dan's vocals are sort of the backbone. He's got all the power. I can only really compare him to Kyuhyun - Kyu has beautiful tone, control, excellent range. I dunno if Dan has the same range (he doesn't need to, with Jisu around to cover the upper part of the register), but his control and tone are friggin' gorgeous and I will be PISSED if he ultimately manages to squander his own talent along with the rest of DMTN's talent.

 

(There are few male voices I like better in all of kpop than Kyu's - and that's usually because Kyu's not intensely emotive when he sings. Junsu and Yesung have him beat in that department, imo. But I like his tone over Junsu's, and he has better control and is steadier than Yesung.)

*Sigh* man I don't even want to think about it. I just feel like DMTN/Dalmatian are dwindling into nothing.

There were some more mature songs on their first album like 'Really Really', 'Real Eyes', and 'Lost In Love' so I don't feel as though they did a total 180 as far as style goes.

I would however love it if the two styles were combined into a more darker more mature and classy hip hop style with smooth r&b, and I feel like they were on their way there. They were finally developing a sound (one that they were proud of and at the same time attracted lots of new fans).

Also I don't think that Dari doesn't suit their current sound though. If you listened to his mixtape, a couple of his songs had a darker or more mature sound.

 

Hmm I think all of those singers you mentioned have better vocals than Daniel, but Daniel was improving. I feel like he's improved more than Jeesu since debut. Daniel's voice is very masculine and that's what I like about it. I also think he is a huge asset stylistically when it comes to composing and such. Drive is my favorite song from State of Emergency and it sounds very 'Daniel'. I feel like Daniel was very heavy handed in his contribution to State of Emergency. He listens to a lot of Bob Marley and I can hear that influence in 'Still By Ur Side' and I know he listens to a lot of 90's and early 2000's r&b too. I don't think they would have done covers of 'Officially Missing You' and 'Brown Sugar" if not for Daniel.

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Yeah, the tone is what I think matches so closely to Kyu. I dunno if it's the resonance or the 'flavor' of his voice or what, but I find it very appealing for both Kyu and Dan. Masculine is a pretty good word for it. I just like the lower register.   I think they're both tenors (probably everyone in Kpop qualifies as tenor - Jisu's practically a soprano   ; I think his range is higher than mine and I have a vagina), but there's a certain richness to their voices (K and D) that strikes me as similar.

 

Maybe it's just the potential? So many main vocals in kpop are good singers but they only shine within the group. There are so few stand-out vocalists among group-based idols who could actually make a go of a solo career and do well. Of everybody in DMTN, I think Dan would have the best chance, purely on vocal talent. No, he's not on that level yet... and it makes me very sad to consider we may never find out if he *can* get there.

Haha yeah, but I will say that Jeesu has toned down the falsetto a bit since they first debut.Yeah they are tenors but I think Daniel would sing barotone more comfortably. Sometimes I feel like they have Daniel singing to high and it seems like it puts a strain on him because he isn't using his diaphram as he should.

But yeah, I totally agree about the 'richness'. I don't really know what that is called when it comes to singing. Resonance? There are a few other kpop guys who have that. Its very noticeable in AA's Hoik.

Part of the reason I haven't been to this thread in a while is I just don't like to think about the possibilities. My mind always goes to the negative possibility. I feel so powerless

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I'm loving Inati's new hair.

Speaking of hair, Dari is blonde now

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Wow, Intae still has that body. His ears are really big though lol.

I need updates from my boo Jisu.

I'm gonna need DMTN to come back with some baby making musics. I think if anyone can do that style its them lol.

I'm going through some type of withdrawal. I guess I'll be watching DMTN videos until I fall asleep

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Topped with this picture I really like

 

I'm having hard core DMTN withdrawals. ;_; it's been 6 long months without seeing them all together.
I also need a REAL update from Simon, not his random music posts or repost of old pics. I miss him, I need to see him. 
 
In the meantime, I've been discovering new groups I never paid attention to before, like....B.A.P.   I NEVER fell in love so fast with a group like that before. I should've paid attention to them early on. Daehyun's voice <3 omg...............
 
LMAO THIS POST!
 
But yes, I LOVE his new hair cut, it's simply flawless! He looks SO much better without the bangs, it just looks so mature and sexy. He really works it well! I wanna call him "daddy' 
And his abs look great, his body is in perfect shape, he's not all super skinny and not extraordinarily buff. He's perfect.

Lol @ 'Daddy'.
I have been getting into girl groups more lately. I feel like I am cheating on DMTN in I start liking any new guy groups lol. There's a couple that have been impressing me (one is kinda nugu) but I can't seem to be enthusiastic and spazz about them like I would DMTN.
I would probably cry a river of joy if I heard new that DMTN were making a comeback with Daniel + Dari + sexy song + blonde Simon + Intae wearing some type of stage outfit that exposes his arms.
Lately I have been coming up with concepts and hairstyles that could DMTN trying lol. Obsessed much?

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I had a weird Simon dream last night, which is weird because he's not my bias. I think its because of the DMTN videos I watched before I went to sleep, but why he would be the one to creep into my subconscious I have no idea. I have never even had a dream about somone from kpop.

Jeeswag indeed!

 

I think we need a group hug. And/or a crying-it-out session. At this point I just want resolution on Dan's case, because 2works isn't going to say ANYthing about the future of the group until that happens.

 

 

Yes he is and that's why bias!

 

I kind of... I have a weird fan relationship with BAP. Their first lot of promoted tracks (Warrior, Power, No Mercy) sounded *identical* to me - or at least close enough that I was surprised to find out they weren't the same song with a promo gap or something. Much like SJ, I like the non-promoted tracks better.

For all the things I like about BYG (very smart, pays attention to politics and current events, writes his own stuff and it isn't fluff, his voice), there are several things I dislike (far and away that he's a huge Chris Brown fanboy (I can't separate what I think of the person with what I think of their product).

 

They're an entertaining group to watch (they also were on Gurupop Show, so you can watch them all interact with our Daniel).

 

But overall, I think I prefer Block B. (don't hurt me) Their discography is much smaller, but Blockbuster is a hot-damn solid album and Nillili Mambo is amazing (and the MV is fan-freaking-tastic). I will be pretty sad if they can't come back from their contract dispute. And they don't seem to give a damn about their image. They are kings of derp face.

 

...whereas BAP hasn't yet learned how to GO AWAY so fans can actually start to miss them. That's a pretty significant drawback to promoting ALL THE TIME. Fans will frenzy for other groups they've had to wait for, while there's no build-up for new BAP releases and they run the risk of fans just getting irritated if they suddenly don't meet their quota of new tracks... which will be their own damned fault for setting this expectation. PLUS the greater possibility of someone getting hurt (hi Himchan) from not having any time to rest.

When do you expect a resolution to Daniel's case? I feel really bad for Dalmates. Always waiting...and this is like one of the worst case scenarios for a group too. I would have imagined this happening tbh.

 

We comparing Block B and BAP now?

I agree with the bolded

I really like BYG. More than I like Zico actually. As talented as he may be, I like Zico but he seems very hyper and ADHD to me and there are times when I find it immensely annoying, especially when he's with equally annoying Park Kyung. However, I prefer Taeil's voice to that BAP main vocal. I can't for the bolded reasons above. Its true that they don't know how to go away. They are overexposed. Also their promoted songs just seem too forceful. I would say more but I'll just leave it at that.

[Entropy]

Join the kpop dream club!    There should be a board for that. Or a thread. There probably is; I haven't looked. Mine usually just make me irritable. I dreamt about Shinhwa's Eric last night. Woke up and was just bothered that if I was going to dream about Shinhwa, why could it not be either of my biases? Or why couldn't I finally have a happy dream about Inati (those tend to go to weird places, leaving me unhappy at best)?

 

No idea on Dan's case. There hasn't been ANY kind of update in like two months now.

 

And yeah... on a personal/fan level, I prefer BYG, though I think Zico is actually a stronger rapper. Block B has a more cohesive sound without everything sounding the same, which is impressive for how little music they've put out as a group.

Haha maybe there should be a thread if there isn't. I wouldn't be able to contribute since I can remember exactly what that dream was about. I should have came here as soon as I woke up so I could tell you guys before I forgot.

Yeah I asked the same thing. Why couldn't it have been one of my biases. Simon is hot but meh. Why couldn't have be 5zic or if someone from DMTN why not goofy azz Jeesu? At least I like Simon enough to not mind having a dream about him. Love his raspy voice

Lol tell me more about these weird places

I can actually imagine a dream about Inati being really weird and awk. Inati does a lot of strange things that I never understand. I think Inati probably makes me laugh more than Jeesu does, because one minute he's being all serious and sexy and the next he's doing something weird.

[Entropy]

Lol those are interesting especially the python one. You're so lucky to have a dream about your bias, except the one where your friend made out with Inati smh. You were supposed to be the snake charmer

I can't seem to remember hardly anything about my Simon dream, all I know is that it was blonde Simon and he was talking to me and was very nice. I wish I cuold just remember what he said. I don't even remember if he was speaking english or korean .

[Entropy]

I'm scared guys

Every day I just expect the bad news...but still nothing definite as of yet.

[Entropy]

I nearly have an anxiety attack when I see that a new post has been made to this thread

 

I KNOW! I SAW THIS! Maybe he misses being on stage,but this does give me hope that dari is still in DMTN.

I hope that is what it means...

but I have been such about Debby Downer lately in reference to DMTN.

[Entropy]

I know y'all heard about Inati and Nine Muses Sungah

 

130928 @SouLoSimoN Twitter Update:

 

Cutie

Edited September 29, 2013 by Entropy