� NB 】 Netizens looks back on all the signs pointing to Jonghyun's depression

[Ash-Pikachu]

 

Article: 'Depression' found in Jonghyun's past lyrics... even in lyrics for G-Dragon, IU, BTS

Source: Asia Econ via Nate

1. [+1,188, -15] It's not like he could've complained to his friends and family every day that he was depressed. We need a better system for hospitals and consultation centers but in Korea, these places aren't a place people go to prevent or fix problems but rather seen as a place people go to as a last resort. When you say that you're getting mental help, there's a social stigma attached to it that makes people view you weird, which makes it harder for people to take the step to go... I really hope this culture changes soon.

2. [+939, -15] Depression is such a scary thing... It can happen to anyone, which makes it more upsetting. I hope he's not hurting where he is...

3. [+765, -21] These are basically dying messages... anyone suffering from depression or suicidal thoughts are bound to change in the way they act but the people around them usually brush it off as not a big deal and end up regretting it later. There are so many deaths that could've been prevented if people cared more... I'm sure not everything would've been preventable but I can't help but think about it..

4. [+54, -0] It seems like Jonghyun tried very hard to try and beat his depression and it makes it all the sadder that he wasn't able to

5. [+38, -0] Guillaume said on 'Abnormal Summit' that half of Canadians get some type of mental consultations while in Korea, you're seen as a psycho or messed up in the head if you get any type of consultation. We really need to change the stigma about it.

6. [+36, -1] I once suffered from depression and went to get a consultation and everyone at work and all my friends started treating me like I wasn't normal anymore so I realized that I could never tell anyone that I was getting help

7. [+29, -0] From personal experience, it gets harder and harder to tell anyone the deeper your depression gets. You don't want to keep talking about it and making those around you feel depressed too. Once it gets worse, you just don't want to speak or hear anything at all.

8. [+28, -1] Reality is that people have to hide their depression the best they can otherwise people start whispering and trying to stay away from you, gossipping with co-workers like, "hey, that guy has depression"..

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Article: The last tattoo that Jonghyun wanted was 'BYE'

Source: SBS via Nate

1. [+1,503, -16] He kept putting out signals asking for help... I think the fact that he had a profession that forced him to smile in the deepest of his pains just made everything so much worse

2. [+1,242, -24] He left so many clues about his depression and signs asking for help everywhere in his music and other places and yet no one recognized them...

3. [+1,135, -26] He left so many signals... I'm so heartbroken and sorry that no one recognized these. I don't know him at all, I'm not even a fan, but I remember listening to his radio every night after work and feeling consoled by it... He left this world after consoling so many people. I've choked up so much because of this. Rest in peace, Jonghyun-ssi...

4. [+70, -0] He desperately wanted to die, but also desperately wanted to live as well... how heartbreaking..

5. [+51, -3] Seeing all these things laid out makes me realize that he has asked for help so many times, waiting for someone to recognize it... So sorry that we are so late. You've been through so much so please just rest peacefully where you are now.

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Article: The reason Jonghyun never announced his January comeback himself

Source: X Sports News via Nate

1. [+1,372, -14] He really was preparing for his end all along... I always thought he looked sad when he was looking at his fans at his concert

2. [+1,271, -10] Looks like he only wanted to say things he could keep promises to... Really seems like every moment he was alive, his mind was just in shambles...

3. [+1,259, -7] He was slowly making preparations for himself. I wonder what he was thinking while singing his new song. I'm not a SHINee fan but it was obvious that he loved them dearly, it's still unbelievable to me that he's gone. So many people are accompanying him on his last farewell. You were a great person and you lived a hard life. You may be gone but your music won't be forgotten by us.

4. [+154, -1] Looking back on everything after his death, there's nothing but heartbreaking signs. Sad facial expressions at his concert too. There have been celebrity suicides but I don't think any as thoughtfully prepared as this, which makes it all the more shocking. Our country is especially big on love and envy of idols so I think the fact that a top idol like him has left us will leave the nation in a state of trauma for quite a while.

5. [+112, -1] So his death was not sudden but rather thoughtfully prepared. Imagine how every single day must've been hell for him until then..

 

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[A R T]

Jonghyun has always been such an upbeat and positive person. It's deeply devastating to know that he was suffering deep inside. 

[B A N G]

I hope Jonghyun is at peace now and free from all the pain he once felt

[youtrieditduh]

5. [+112, -1] So his death was not sudden but rather thoughtfully prepared. Imagine how every single day must've been hell for him until then..

 

I just cant imagine the pain he went thru ,really heartbreaking

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

Jonghyun suffered so much  I hope his soul will be at peace now

[winnerincle]

5. [+112, -1] So his death was not sudden but rather thoughtfully prepared. Imagine how every single day must've been hell for him until then..

 

I just cant imagine the pain he went thru ,really heartbreaking

Every time I think about this I cry, it hurts to know he was in soo much pain all along

[Ðœimi]

5. [+112, -1] So his death was not sudden but rather thoughtfully prepared. Imagine how every single day must've been hell for him until then..

 

I just cant imagine the pain he went thru ,really heartbreaking

 

[Deâ„“phina]

There is no need to "look back". He's always been open about his issues and had a good support system. He knew he was loved but he couldn't love himself. 

[Arietta]

This makes me so sad. Seeing all these signs makes me want to cry. I have depression, but I can't imagine how hard it is to have depression as a celebrity. You have to put on a happy face all the time and act like everything is fine for the fans and cameras, but inside you're hurting...  

[sakurahanabira]

 

 

1. [+1,188, -15] It's not like he could've complained to his friends and family every day that he was depressed. We need a better system for hospitals and consultation centers but in Korea, these places aren't a place people go to prevent or fix problems but rather seen as a place people go to as a last resort. When you say that you're getting mental help, there's a social stigma attached to it that makes people view you weird, which makes it harder for people to take the step to go... I really hope this culture changes soon.

 

the stigma against mental illnesses in Asian cultures need to change. This is the reason why Asians are reported to be the least likely to seek help for their mental illnesses. Even here in America, Asian-Americans have trouble seeking help for mental issues because of the cultural stigma from their family. 

[NINI]

There is no need to "look back". He's always been open about his issues and had a good support system. He knew he was loved but he couldn't love himself. 

 

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Which is heartbreaking

[sugarplumfairy]

Jonghyun has always been such an upbeat and positive person. It's deeply devastating to know that he was suffering deep inside. 

[seolababy96]

This makes me sad that he thought it was all his fault. Maybe if we noticed quicker ...

 

He couldn’t speak up so much about it. He couldn’t scream about how much he was hurting because people would pity him and treat him differently. So he tried to speak to us through music. But it didn’t work. Gosh jjong I miss u so much it hurts. There’s tears all over my screen. U ARE SO AMAZING

[DemonicPotato]

This makes me sad that he thought it was all his fault. Maybe if we noticed quicker ...

 

He couldn’t speak up so much about it. He couldn’t scream about how much he was hurting because people would pity him and treat him differently. So he tried to speak to us through music. But it didn’t work. Gosh jjong I miss u so much it hurts. There’s tears all over my screen. U ARE SO AMAZING

 

But he did speak up about it  And not only through music, but on his radio show, on tv... Jonghyun was open about his problems, which was incredibly brave of him. 

[seolababy96]

But he did speak up about it And not only through music, but on his radio show, on tv... Jonghyun was open about his problems, which was incredibly brave of him.

Oh I apologise , my mistake.

[h0neanias]

Fuck this shit. Fuck all the fake-ass psychiatrists, fuck the journalists, the netizens, the companies, the anti-fans, the pressure, the whole goddamn rotten fucking evil culture of fake success and pretended happiness. Let it all burn in the depths of hell.

[Mina ✧･ﾟ:*]

 

Jonghyun has always been such an upbeat and positive person. It's deeply devastating to know that he was suffering deep inside. 

 

[mitsuhoney]

It tears me up inside that all of the signs were there and nobody thought anything of it. He was asking for help in a subtle yet direct way and nobody did anything. As one of the netizens said, he wanted to die but he also wanted to live. That is what depression does to you. An eternal battle with yourself trying to live but also wanting to die.

[Ash0896]

It is so true that mental health isn't seen as that important compared to physical health in most Asian countries. I am Asian myself so I can attest to it. When you say you're depress or having such a hard time, they will just tell you to get over it. That there are some people who is struggling harder than you and yet their doing fine. People would even call you drama queen, OA, or that your just acting or whatever. I have heard this so many times already.

 

I once said I wanted to die and have suicidal thoughts because I was so depressed but people around and even my own family told me to stop acting. That why would I possibly want to die? When they gave me money and I can buy most of the thing I want unlike the poor people who have nothing. They told me I had a good life so I couldn't possibly be having a hard time. It so useless trying to explain and talk to them because they never listen so when I'm at home & not on dorm, I just simply lock up myself in my room, grab my earphones and listen to music to close out the world or their shouting voices. Or I watch shows to put my mind on other things. And it normally works and it calms my feelings and mind.

 

Even when one of my friends and classmate in high school had suicide a few years ago and I was so sad, my family only insulted my friend for being a coward, weak, drama queen, attention seeker etc. and when I defended her they told me she deserves to die then because she tried to kill herself when she had no right to because our life isn't ours. (My family is very religious so they believe we don't own our live & only God do). My friend survive her suicide attempt but she had to leave our small province and went to a different city because people started gossiping about her & her mental state. And they are saying very nasty things. Her parents wants to take her away for her own sake. Her parents were actually great people & they try their hardest to help her.

 

Anyway the way I see it in our country & society, most new generations young ones like myself do take depression and mental health seriously and we try hard to spread awareness but most old people do not believe such a sickness exist. They take is as a joke or not a serious sickness. They though being depress is simply being sad because bad things have happen and you'll get over it after a day or two. That's it.

[Midnight~Circus]

He along with several other celebrity figures have openly spoke on their battles with depression. The signs were there.

 

Celebs have stated in the past that many people they confided in simply brushed off their confessions of having mental distress. 

[Dupladé]

It is so hard to believe he is gone. Youtube keeps recommending me videos about him and every single time my heart breaks a little especially that I hear how he was crying for help even on his last day. I can't..

[Baekeri]

It is so true that mental health isn't seen as that important compared to physical health in most Asian countries. I am Asian myself so I can attest to it. When you say you're depress or having such a hard time, they will just tell you to get over it. That there are some people who is struggling harder than you and yet their doing fine. People would even call you drama queen, OA, or that your just acting or whatever. I have heard this so many times already.

 

I once said I wanted to die and have suicidal thoughts because I was so depressed but people around and even my own family told me to stop acting. That why would I possibly want to die? When they gave me money and I can buy most of the thing I want unlike the poor people who have nothing. They told me I had a good life so I couldn't possibly be having a hard time. It so useless trying to explain and talk to them because they never listen so when I'm at home & not on dorm, I just simply lock up myself in my room, grab my earphones and listen to music to close out the world or their shouting voices. Or I watch shows to put my mind on other things. And it normally works and it calms my feelings and mind.

 

Even when one of my friends and classmate in high school had suicide a few years ago and I was so sad, my family only insulted my friend for being a coward, weak, drama queen, attention seeker etc. and when I defended her they told me she deserves to die then because she tried to kill herself when she had no right to because our life isn't ours. (My family is very religious so they believe we don't own our live & only God do). My friend survive her suicide attempt but she had to leave our small province and went to a different city because people started gossiping about her & her mental state. And they are saying very nasty things. Her parents wants to take her away for her own sake. Her parents were actually great people & they try their hardest to help her.

 

Anyway the way I see it in our country & society, most new generations young ones like myself do take depression and mental health seriously and we try hard to spread awareness but most old people do not believe such a sickness exist. They take is as a joke or not a serious sickness. They though being depress is simply being sad because bad things have happen and you'll get over it after a day or two. That's it.

My family is religious too. When I was depressed after Jonghyun death and cried , they said me to stop, that I'm crying for nothing. Because I have a too good live and that there are people who have not food... 

They don't understand that not only physical pain exist. They call people who suicide weak,that piss me off.

[TonyAndonuts]

5. [+38, -0] Guillaume said on 'Abnormal Summit' that half of Canadians get some type of mental consultations while in Korea, you're seen as a psycho or messed up in the head if you get any type of consultation. We really need to change the stigma about it.

[PurachinaDisuko]

 

5. [+38, -0] Guillaume said on 'Abnormal Summit' that half of Canadians get some type of mental consultations while in Korea, you're seen as a psycho or messed up in the head if you get any type of consultation. We really need to change the stigma about it.

 

[Pananana]

I once suffered from depression and went to get a consultation and everyone at work and all my friends started treating me like I wasn't normal anymore so I realized that I could never tell anyone that I was getting help

 

 

^^ this is one of the resons why people in my country refuse to go to psychiatrist