Lexurite 7,713 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The sudden drop in sales for mid tier boy groups Notes: - I compared the album sales on Hanteo - Each figure corresponds to ONE album What happened? Is the increasingly huge competition to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evermore 3,280 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 the Astro difference is huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo 6,183 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Wanna One happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seulmate 12,182 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 produce 101 happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car door guy 11,500 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 W1 fans did not appear from thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncting 1,061 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 poor astro :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oodles 13,187 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belkiss 22,803 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 the sad thing is that even the temporary groups are going to disband and the members will go back to groups that won't sell too much either This is why I consider survival shows a danger to kpop Those groups are unlikely to regain what they lost since other temporary groups are in the making and the cycle continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddeona Oneul Bame 61,629 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 KNK and SF9 are pretty minor~ Only Astro is notable, IMO~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acer 396 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 don't blame W1 fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailcaesar 819 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 they lost their stans to pd101 related groups. those groups added together sold over 1mil albums. those fans had to come from somewhere. the bigger groups like exo, bts, 17 and got7 are selling on par with their previous releases because they have a bigger international fanbase. the ones that rely on korean fans are seeing the sharper decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexurite 7,713 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 they lost their stans to pd101 related groups. those groups added together sold over 1mil albums. those fans had to come from somewhere. the bigger groups like exo, bts, 17 and got7 are selling on par with their previous releases because they have a bigger international fanbase. the ones that rely on korean fans are seeing the sharper decline. Those groups are more established tho so their fans are less fickle. EXO debuted in 2012, BTS in 2013, GOT7 in 2014 and 17 in 2015. SF9, Astro, Victon, KNK etc all debuted in 2016. The only older group in the list is B.A.P but they have their own unique issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailcaesar 819 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Those groups are more established tho so their fans are less fickle. EXO debuted in 2012, BTS in 2013, GOT7 in 2014 and 17 in 2015. SF9, Astro, Victon, KNK etc all debuted in 2016. The only older group in the list is B.A.P but they have their own unique issues... yea that's true but imo they also lost fans to w1/jbj/etc but its less noticeable since those groups have wayy more chinese/japanese/other country fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja_Potato 9,830 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Produce101 happened. W1, JBJ, NUEST W, RAINZ, SAMUEL, SEWOON ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
� redie � 2,849 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charaught 978 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 P101 HA IMPACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibidi 199 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Their fans dropped them for wanna one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
í™©ì œë‹˜ 팬 4,702 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Those aren't Mid-tier groups to begin with ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carat 7,426 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 honestly november was a bad time to have a comeback if you didn't have a stable fanbase to back you up >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenge 4 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 They could always make a comeback next year though right? It's not over yet for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
look at his fluffy hair 1,527 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Pentagon and SF9 I was so sure that they are going to be successful, their debut was so good. I never was an active fan, because of lack of time and now I regret it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holywater hyung 5,718 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Most are rookie groups, not mid tier? Idk the classification for mid tier tho. But i agree after produce 101 all we see is w1, jbj, nu’est, and all the groups affiliated with it. It almost seems like these days you won’t be popular if you’re not going to survival show... -Pledis CEO- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilraen92 9,334 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I don't think any of those groups qualify for "mid tier" though? To me mid-tier are groups that sell well physically but also have good or decent digital presence and more public recognition, so the likes of Seventeen, NU'EST, BTOB, Block B etc. Astro is the only one out those groups that could be considered sort of mid tier since they have good album sales + charted in the top 100 + have a very popular member but the rest are still nugu or "rising" at best. BAP used to be mid-tier at their prime too but not anymore. But yeah, I think broduce related groups definitely took some fans from those groups. In Astro's case I think it could be due to the change in concepts too. Lots of fans apparently didn't like the change from fresh/cute concept to something more mature/sensual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinky 15,878 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 SF9's sales are actually pretty stable. Their last mini album actually sold more than the previous one even though not as much as their first single album & 1st mini album.( they also held less fansigns now compared to their earlier albums) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flopbts 66 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Aw my bbs Astro tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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