redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 why does everything has to have a justification? I'm tired of constantly overthinking every insignificant thing I do because I have to give reasons to other people like can't I just be young and reckless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleasure 2,956 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 lol I was expecting this comment love that song tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferfluffer 68 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 A.bop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Moon 7,229 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 just dont justify yourself if you dont have too, fuck them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanandmilk 836 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Depends, is there something in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddeona Oneul Bame 61,631 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 can't I just be young and reckless? Those are always the ones that die first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Those are always the ones that die first I never cared about living a long life anyways growing old is overrated Depends, is there something in particular? it's about a lot of thing but particularly this teacher that constantly wants me to go more in depth about explanation for the art projects I do like why do I need an explication for producing overly colourful stuff painting flowers or taking aesthetically pleasing pics, that's just what I like I'm just tired of constantly making up fakes explanation to satisfy them when I personally don't care at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai 15,203 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Because the people you usually have to justify to are people who love you? Honestly just guessing because this is so vague lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Because the people you usually have to justify to are people who love you? Honestly just guessing because this is so vague lol you're spot on I also feel like I'm forcing myself to do a lot of things just to keep my credibility with my relatives and friends I'd like to tell them to fuck off but I love them and I don't wanna disappoint them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai 15,203 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 you're spot on I also feel like I'm forcing myself to do a lot of things just to keep my credibility with my relatives and friends I'd like to tell them to fuck off but I love them and I don't wanna disappoint them Maybe you can talk to them about it in a rational and polite way. Don't blow up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90's Baby 5,035 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Such a good song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachtea 1,885 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I never cared about living a long life anyways growing old is overrated it's about a lot of thing but particularly this teacher that constantly wants me to go more in depth about explanation for the art projects I do like why do I need an explication for producing overly colourful stuff painting flowers or taking aesthetically pleasing pics, that's just what I like I'm just tired of constantly making up fakes explanation to satisfy them when I personally don't care at all Art teachers are strange. I use to wag maths and sit in on my friends' art class and their teacher was so over the top with representations and symbolism in art. She once asked her students why the artist decided to paint the curtains blue. No one could give an answer and then she went on this long ass speech about how the artist must have been depressed and he was conveying that through the blue curtains. I was like "maybe he just likes blue curtains?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze 10,915 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I never cared about living a long life anyways growing old is overrated it's about a lot of thing but particularly this teacher that constantly wants me to go more in depth about explanation for the art projects I do like why do I need an explication for producing overly colourful stuff painting flowers or taking aesthetically pleasing pics, that's just what I like I'm just tired of constantly making up fakes explanation to satisfy them when I personally don't care at all Majoring in art? Yeah, conceptual art is a double edged sword. Though I'd admit it's overly obnoxious these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Majoring in art? Yeah, conceptual art is a double edged sword. Though I'd admit it's overly obnoxious these days. yeah, but I'm starting to question wether I really want to or not I've never been a conceptual art fan to begin with but I don't have a problem with it, I still don't what gets on my nerves is that every art school around here only care about conceptual art and our teacherswant to make conceptuel artists out of all us there's more to art than just concepts and ideas but nobody seems to understand that and then there are all this boastful students thinking that they are reinventing art because they draw stick figures and what not Art teachers are strange. I use to wag maths and sit in on my friends' art class and their teacher was so over the top with representations and symbolism in art. She once asked her students why the artist decided to paint the curtains blue. No one could give an answer and then she went on this long ass speech about how the artist must have been depressed and he was conveying that through the blue curtains. I was like "maybe he just likes blue curtains?" exactly I have nothing against analysing arts pieces and trying to understand what the message of the artist is or what kinda of ties it has with the period said artist lived in but gosh some teachers just do the most and over glorify some artist that in my personal opinion were mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze 10,915 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 yeah, but I'm starting to question wether I really want to or not I've never been a conceptual art fan to begin with but I don't have a problem with it, I still don't what gets on my nerves is that every art school around here only care about conceptual art and our teacherswant to make conceptuel artists out of all us there's more to art than just concepts and ideas but nobody seems to understand that and then there are all this boastful students thinking that they are reinventing art because they draw stick figures and what not exactly I have nothing against analysing arts pieces and trying to understand what the message of the artist is or what kinda of ties it has with the period said artist lived in but gosh some teachers just do the most and over glorify some artist that in my personal opinion were mediocre I can relate. My school was heavy on conceptualism as well and it was super discouraging at first. I even took a year off at some point before coming back to finish since I already put too much time and money into it by then. But before I jump the gun and give some advice, could I ask what your concentration is? Nothing too specific of course! Like do you enjoy still life's or more free form illustrations? Abstract work? A mix of a couple things? And is it purely for aesthetic purposes and your own gratification? ( which is never wrong, I do work for myself above all else or anyone's opinion as well ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheart 7,440 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 I can relate. My school was heavy on conceptualism as well and it was super discouraging at first. I even took a year off at some point before coming back to finish since I already put too much time and money into it by then. But before I jump the gun and give some advice, could I ask what your concentration is? Nothing too specific of course! Like do you enjoy still life's or more free form illustrations? Abstract work? A mix of a couple things? And is it purely for aesthetic purposes and your own gratification? ( which is never wrong, I do work for myself above all else or anyone's opinion as well ) well there are two things in my art school we have assignations so for those I tend to very abstract and conceptual thing like I would try to do sculptures using arte povera principles but there are other classes where I'm able to do things that are more in tune with what I really want to produce artistically speaking and those are definitely purely for aesthetic purposes, especially my photographs and paintings, but still I'm not exactly pleased with what I'm doing because there again I constantly have to give conceptual justification to my work I guess ideally I'd like to go with realism but -not hyperrealism either- mixed with fantasy and pop art kinda aesthetics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze 10,915 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 well there are two things in my art school we have assignations so for those I tend to very abstract and conceptual thing like I would try to do sculptures using arte povera principles but there are other classes where I'm able to do things that are more in tune with what I really want to produce artistically speaking and those are definitely purely for aesthetic purposes, especially my photographs and paintings, but still I'm not exactly pleased with what I'm doing because there again I constantly have to give conceptual justification to my work I guess ideally I'd like to go with realism but -not hyperrealism either- mixed with fantasy and pop art kinda aesthetics Ahhhh, gotcha and nice! But regarding justification, I don't think you should feel inclined to provide one or makeup one that isn't there. Your concentration and focus don't need a synthetic explanation. Be honest, your cocenptual approach is your attraction to the subject, just tell them why you like working with said content and media. If photography is merely convientent because your prefer some realist elements, just say that. And if you prefer some fantasy themes with pop art, say just that . You don't have to makeup some bullshit conceptual theme just to appease to them, be honest. The only thing you need to do is a little more searching as to why these things attract you. Not extremely specific of course, but if you're able to elaborate why you opt for certain choices or details in your work, that should be enough as an explanation. And if they try to be to overbearing with their opinions, let them know. Just say you appreciate it and you'll think about it, but again, you're not inclined to take said advice. Art school is a lot about standing your ground ( not stubbornly of course, im sure you have taken productive criticism before ). Early on they all might seem like hard asses, but their word isn't written in stone. Don't feel stressed out and like you have to cater to their demands and suggestions. They're only their to offer criticism and some advice, whether it's useful to you or not, it's all on you. It's wrong to let them influence you if you personally feeling it's sucking the joy out of you... so yeah, next time pull them aside, and be as genuine as you can when you ask them why they're so persistent about conceptual ploys and deeper concepts. I'm sure atleast one or two of them will hear out your concerns and agree to some extent, and know where you're coming from, to better your relationship with them. .... SORRY ABOUT THE RANT. I just can really relate, and I hate seeing people lose their confidence over art because of certain institutions that drain the joy out of it for a lot of people. Good luck and I hope you find your way! Also, get all those connections while still can in school! It's one of the only great perks in art school lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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