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#1 Danee


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:33 AM (Edited by Danee Danee, 04 April 2014 - 03:41 AM.)

There's an amazing shitstorm brewing about Hyoyeon and SNSD at the moment, which at this stage may or may not blow over, but I'm not going to write about it.  After all, I've already written a post about how confirmation bias works so you should all know what's really going on, plus every second post I've ever made ever has probably got some little dig in it about how fucking stupid netizens were about T-ara and about how equally stupid a lot of international k-pop fans were for going along with the rumours at the time instead of using some intelligence.  So now it's SNSD's turn on the chopping block and I bet any Sones who vilified T-ara back then are now feeling appropriately stupid now that they get to experience the same situation from the other side.  Here's hoping they'll learn something from the experience about not believing any old bullshit on the Internet.  Probably not, though.



And that's all I've got to say about that specific situation.  Others will probably say more.  However there's something else at the root of this kind of thing which I believe is worth discussing - "cute" concepts.

The roots of the hatred towards girls groups in general (and thus the ability/will to believe any old bullshit) are fairly obvious.  Crazy fangirls with ovaries only for oppa don't like sexy girl groups (because they perceive them as a threat to their male k-pop crushes, or the desires of men in general) and will use any means to take them down a peg to shorten the perceived distance between their fugliness and the pristine idol-image, and in the process will embrace massive amounts of sexual conservatism.  Only sexual conservatism for the girls in k-pop, of course - guys are still allowed totake off their clothesbe as sexy as they want to be and even have gay love affairs (real or fictionalised)... that's just fine - as long as girls aren't involved.  Some fangirls will be honest about their feelings and just say "they're seducing men from the stage, I bet they're also seducing my crush backstage", whereas others will lie and adopt a pseudo-feminist pose and complain about the girls being "exploited" but it's all the same thing underneath the surface.

It's natural then that female fans will embrace "cute concepts" that they perceive as safe and non-threatening such as the new Apink song.

Here's our predictable netizen reaction courtesy of Netizenbuzz:

1. [+1,282, -94] A Pink matches innocent more than sexy concepts
2. [+1,098, -101] The concept matches their age and it's pretty~ I hated seeing girls spread their legs open. A Pink looks pretty. Do well~!!
3. [+871, -82] They've been going with the innocent concept for a while. It's hard to stick to one concept like that but they know what we want ㅋ
4. [+738, -95] Love them ♥ 
5. [+714, -105] I really like the song. I also like Love Fairytale in the album as well. Mister Chu's daebak...
6. [+144, -37] The timing for this is excellent with all of the sexy concepts and all ㅎㅎ Everyone's tired of sexy concepts and they're able to give people a fresh change of mind
7. [+132, -37] Proves that there are a lot of great concepts other than sexy still left... Chu daebak.
8. [+127, -40] Way better than kids forcing a sexy concept that clearly isn't working for them

Oh snore.  How little do they know.

From a crazy fangirl's perspective, there's a sliding scale of concepts, from "cute/innocent" on one end, to "sexy/perverse/slutty" on the other end.  To them, things probably look something like this:


However, that's not how the men that these fangirls are concerned about getting whisked away into k-pop fap delirium (or worse - actually falling in love with a k-pop idol) perceive things at all, so they needn't worry too much about exactly which group is where on the sliding scale.  Here's now a representation of the male mind when it comes to female k-pop groups and concepts in general which should clear things up and let fangirls know exactly how much concern is warranted:


Every guy has different tastes and is turned on by different things, and you can bet to every guy fapping over Stella's "Marionette" there's another one jerking it to the new Apink.  But there's one constant - for every graduation on the sexy/cute scale someone is fapping.

Let's now look at some concepts which may seem fairly acceptable, benign and innocent to a fangirl but which actually should raise the red flag of jism to these paranoid crazies.  Let's start with the big one, which is:





Most guys and girls have hit puberty at about 12 or 13 years of age - just when they start high school.  Whether you're a guy or a girl, if your sex drive is kicking in as strongly as it does for the majority of folks, from that age until when you graduate high school you are horny as a motherfucker but legally in most countries you are not allowed to fuck anybody.  Plus being young you're possibly lacking in social skills required to get anything much happening anyway.  If you're in any sort of co-ed situation (or gay/lesbian) you're surrounded by things you want to fuck.  Most people graduate from this sexual prison into adulthood having achieved a slim minority of their sexual fantasies at most, hence the school uniform becomes representative of sexual fantasy and unfulfilled forbidden desire... and there's no better way to make people want something than to wrap it in a package which says "you can't have this".

My comment on the Apink "Mr. Chu" article quoted above:


Nothing to do with pedophilia.  The sexiest female pop/rock lead singer that my country ever produced (Australia, not the US, ahem) would have to easily be Chrissie Amphlett of The Divinyls, who spent much of her early career bouncing around (literally) in a school uniform, had her biggest hit when she sung openly about masturbation and is considered a trailblazing national sex symbol -right up until when she died, at 53 years of age.  The school uniform being hot is universal, and Chrissie knew it, which is why she wore it.

K-pop companies know this too.  They're run by men, and men are horny devils.  By using school uniforms in k-pop girl videos companies can keep the guys fapping AND the girls unoffended, keeping the gender ratio of fans fairly even and milking maximum sales from both genders.


F-ve Dolls' "Can You Love Me?" video is very telling:



Notice how in every scene where the girls are wearing school uniforms, Dani is wearing something that looks a little bit less like a school uniform and more like some wacky kiddy circus costume?  That's because you're not supposed to fap to Dani, she's too young... you creep.  The adult girls get the hot schoolgirl fetish wear and the only girl in the group who actually is a schoolgirl wears some weird clown shit instead so she doesn't interfere with your fantasy and you can ignore her while you work up a rhythm to your fave.  It's all part of the plan to keep you fapping consistently.  Yet another thing you can thank KKS for, along with all the other great things he's done for you like removing Hwayoung, keeping T-ara going, giving Seunghee a career etc etc.

And let's not forget SNSD;



Watch it all.  Try not to fap.

Let's move on to:





Picture this: you're fapping furiously to Girl's Day's latest cumback when suddenly you hear a cracking sound, and then you can't move your body at all without incredible pain.  You call the ambulance and they take you away to hospital where it's discovered that you've broken a pelvic bone - every fapper's worst nightmare.  You spend the next week completely immobile.  A nurse has to change your bedpans, change your clothes and sheets, wash your asshole and so forth - and you're not allowed to move your body and definitely not allowed to fap until you've healed.  The presence of the nurse quickly becomes associated with the pleasant sensation of her washcloth cradling your testicles, which is the closest thing to a sexual experience that you're going to be getting for a while.  Soon, the sound of her footsteps down the hall brings about involuntary boners as you anticipate the warm tinging feeling of another clean-up session.  Every now and then a doctor comes and assesses your pelvic area, poking, prodding and inspecting for signs of healing.  Then the nurse has to clean you up again.  Both the nurse and the doctor are female, too... your sexual frustration reaches new heights that you never thought possible.

This is how an attraction to doctors and nurses gets hard-wired into the human brain and why it's such a common thing.  It's also why every damn music video and movie ever always has "sexy nurse" outfits instead of the boring shit that they actually wear to work.  Check this video out at 2:56:



That ain't no standard regulation nurse outfit, that getup is straight from Adult Superstore... and this is for what's supposed to be a video for a touching ballad!  Rest assured that Girls' Generation's "Mr. Mr." is clocking up some major jack-off hours thanks to its "doctors-and-nurses meets Frank from Blue Velvet" concept.  If you added together all the time that everyone in the world spent jerking it to The Nine's latest, end to end it'd probably stretch back to the Triassic era and the first guy would be jerking it with the dinosaurs.  Maybe even earlier if the MV wasn't also in Triassic-era screen resolution.




Soldiers and tanks and shit get people wet, and I'm not just talking about blood spilling out of the gaping wounds of women and children caught in the crossfire.  Everybody knows that army/navy/airforce shit is pure sex, otherwise nobody would ever want to even join up for that shit. Every military-themed concept ever is a sexy concept.


And of course just like with any "non-sexy concept that is really a sexy concept" SNSD are right there, at the front lines:



Concepts combining hot k-pop girl sexuality with military-inspired fashion and equipment have become so common that militaries around the world are taking notice and are using the power of sexy themselves.  Check out this great advert for the Ukranian military which lays it on the line.  No subtitles here but trust me, you won't need them.



I think the whole horrible Ukranian situation is going to escalate and then culminate in a gigantic sexy-off between the soldier in the above video and Crimea's new Attorney General:



Let's hope the soldiers' helmet-cams are working.  Maybe these drastic sexy measures are what is needed for Russia and the Ukraine to resolve their differences.  In the meantime just know that the military is all about sex, and has been ever since Hugo Boss designed those sexy Nazi uniformsthe gold standard for BDSM fetish-wear globally.




Look at Apink being all cute and innocent, looking like brides all about to get married off.  Doesn't it just warm the heart?  Isn't this the most beautiful video ever?



Well, it also warms something slightly lower down than the heart, because in the ultra-conservative la-la-land many k-pop fans live in your wedding night is the night that you get some dick for the first time (at least in theory).  These girls are supposed to be dreaming about the cock that is going to be spunking on them later that evening.  What do you think the real reason for wedding dresses being white is?  Needless to say this is a sexy concept.






Sorry I have not much to say about this one except that I just wanted to link a decent quality Apink song to balance out all the bullshit failure Apink songs elsewhere in this blog.  Also, I'd fap to this video so it's a sexy concept.  They're doing exactly the same ass-shaking moves as Stella anyway, they're just smiling more and their outfits have a bit more colour.  Sexy and cute are not opposites!






Way looks hot with black hair.  10/10 would pop her crayons.  Like I give a fuck about the dance and the silly clothes, planning to remove that shit ASAP anyway.

Anyway you get the idea by this point in the blog.  Fangirls think k-pop for guys is like this:


But guys really see k-pop more like this:


Thanks for your time, and remember the three important lessons that this blog contains:

Credit for an article goes to Anti kpop-fangirl

#2 Danee


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:42 AM (Edited by Danee Danee, 04 April 2014 - 03:43 AM.)

If we overlook all the "I'm trying to be funny" bullshit and some bashing. Do you agree what he/she/whatever says?

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:42 AM

makes sense







lol at this

#4 Lissandra



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:47 AM

SNSD was considered very threatening to the oppa crowd, that's how STAND and all that shit happened, and this was at the height of their cute concept. This has absolutely nothing to do with cute or sexy but just what people find attractive or is vogue at the time. I have a feeling that the people that write this haven't been around in Kpop for a long time at all. 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:47 AM

lmao didnt realize people actually masturbated to kpop vids 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:49 AM

thats a wall of text

#7 Danee


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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:50 AM

lmao didnt realize people actually masturbated to kpop vids 


If you read youtube comments it's full of fap fap fap... :D I'm a girl so I don't know if its true. :D

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:51 AM

he made good points. sex sells anywhere in the globe. 

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:52 AM

lmao didnt realize people actually masturbated to kpop vids 


the thirst is real bad eh

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:54 AM (Edited by gyulcole, 04 April 2014 - 03:55 AM.)

AKF are pedo freaks their posts makes me want to throw up they are trying too hard to be funny

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:59 AM (Edited by TMI, 04 April 2014 - 04:00 AM.)

Repulsive style of writing aside, has AKF spoken to South Korean males residing in SK and what they think of the cute and innocent concepts? If they regard it as the same as sexy concepts?  If not, I'll wait until they do.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:00 AM (Edited by kinagyo, 04 April 2014 - 04:29 AM.)


it's the same with girls and boygroups. Some girls like cutesy members as Taemin and Luhan, some prefer well build members as Jay Park, Taeyang etc

in both cases it leds the girl to fantasizing about them. They dream about dating them, imagine their private lives etc, so they write fanfics

there's really no difference between how female fans view boygroups and how male fans view girlgroups

At the end it's about the FANTASY which kpop sells

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:00 AM

I would be more interested in his/her opinion if they approached it maturely instead of trying to be a comedian the whole time.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:00 AM

This blames internalized misogyny entirely for why these groups get hate. Internalized misogyny is still deeply rooted in patriarchy, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. Men set those standards.

And yes it is pedophilia. Women acting like children in music videos to satisfy oppa's need for submissive women similar to children without actually being a pedophile since they're of age. Ew.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:03 AM


They dream about dating them, imagine their private lives etc

Etc  :hurr:

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:04 AM (Edited by shymoon, 04 April 2014 - 04:05 AM.)

'if you put something up on the internet and you are able to word it convincingly enough, people will believe it, as long as it matches what they already want to believe'


lmao but that's precisely the reason shit sites like AKFG still have bandwagon whores who gladly eat up every BS they serve.


As for the article(ignoring the obnoxius writing style).. yes, I do agree. That's pretty much how music industries work.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:06 AM

the thirst is real bad eh

thirst bordering on pedophilia 




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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:07 AM (Edited by Screw you all, 04 April 2014 - 04:09 AM.)

what a rambling, messy post


people hated snsd when they were doing the cute concept




also i'm real glad they put up the eunjung quote in the beginning since it pretty much sums up this post and people who listen to akf

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:10 AM (Edited by Danee Danee, 04 April 2014 - 04:16 AM.)

thirst bordering on pedophilia 


Nope. Nothing in common with pedophilia. Pedophiles aren't interested in adult women (you know... waist, hips, boobs, even small... hairs etc.), neither in adult women in cute or silly dresses. it's just common idea between not informed people... Pedophiles are interested in prepuberty kids. 




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Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:11 AM

SNSD was considered very threatening to the oppa crowd, that's how STAND and all that shit happened, and this was at the height of their cute concept. This has absolutely nothing to do with cute or sexy but just what people find attractive or is vogue at the time. I have a feeling that the people that write this haven't been around in Kpop for a long time at all. 


No, his point still stands. He's already proved it with the netizen comments. Girl groups with cute concepts are only "threatening" if they actually have interactions with boy groups, which SNSD did quite a bit of.

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