Sulliverse 288 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Stop saying that they flopped cos they didn't. Just look at Exo they didn't win anything on music shows when they promoted MAMA. And look how successfull they are now. Got7 just debuted a couple of moths ago (and they already gained a lot of fans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver 22,442 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Screw what they think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Jellyfish 23,232 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Meh people will always find something to talk shit about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinolover 3,610 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Deal with it. It'll go away soon and once it does, stanning got7 will be more pleasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozue 4,885 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 all your threads should have just been posted in the random thought thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo's Candy Jelly Ho 3,458 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 All groups have fans; all groups have haters. Idk why you expect your bias group to be exempted from the hate/shit talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex00 204 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Stop saying that they flopped cos they didn't. Just look at Exo they didn't win anything on music shows when they promoted MAMA. And look how successfull they are now. Got7 just debuted a couple of moths ago (and they already gained a lot of fans). Wow this is unexpected O.O ive never heard anyone talk trash about the boys, especially with papa tuan rockin twitter :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHenchanted 4,704 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 um ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliverse 288 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Wow this is unexpected O.O ive never heard anyone talk trash about the boys, especially with papa tuan rockin twitter :P I saw many people...some haters call them flop7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokomademo 139 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 if you already loosing it then you might have to take a break in fan girling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyCane23049 44,319 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Just have to bear it because it's going to happen a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliverse 288 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 if you already loosing it then you might have to take a break in fan girling.... what am I loosing? Don't get it sry :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokomademo 139 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 what am I loosing? Don't get it sry :/ your temper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Snow 14,255 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 well exo did sell 100k + for Mama so..... just saying Got7 didn't flop but they didn't excel. It was a pretty average debut considering they're from JYP. I think what really hurt them was when they stopped promotions of their mini b/c sales during that time were pretty low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliverse 288 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 your temper. I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stell 5,502 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 lmao are you the same user from the akp forum or did you just copy and paste his/her thread? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulliverse 288 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 lmao are you the same user from the akp forum or did you just copy and paste his/her thread? XD I am. I have an akp acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depleter 6,589 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 quoting a thread about this http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/47798-why-do-people-think-got7-is-flopping/ People have been saying that GOT7 flopped hard and made threads like "until when will they last?". This is really making me question what the word flop actually means. Digitally GOT7 apparently have the highest charting debut song(#21) by a male group since CNBLUE by overtaking JJ Project(#30) on Gaon digital chart. But people might argue that gaon changed it system into more download dependent and all, but still it is a high debut for a boy group in recent years. Physically, they have sold 34K albums on Gaon by feb end i.e in 38days So, we have B.A.P on gaon was 18K in 1 month and 6 days... And EXO is at 85K in 1 month and 21days on Gaon. So, we have GOT7 here doing only second to EXO counting all idol groups debut since 2011(though the difference is big, but JYP Groups were never near SM in physicals anyway). and want to add this post here Allow me to straighten out people's expectations: The only seven rookie male groups to pass 10K copies on Gaon since 2012 with a debut album:Exo, BAP, Nu'est, JJ Project, Bangtan. (Bangtan is the only one from 2013) Got7 has now passed 10K copies on Hanteo which means Gaon will be above 10K next month also, making them only the 6th out of 46 groups debuting since 2012 to pass that mark (counted off of Wikipedia, there may be more than 46). Extend back to 2011, it makes them the 8th out of 65 groups to do so. (the 2011 groups to pass 10K were Boyfriend and B1A4; note Block B's first physical release passed 10K but it was not their debut; their debut single was released digitally only) Lots of people think "but they're from the Big 3, isn't this a flop for the Big 3?" For reference, 2PM's debut single sold 21K on Hanteo. 2AM's sold 13K. Even if Got7 does not hold anymore fansigns, they will pass 2AM's sales mark. If they do more, they could pass 2PM. Additional reminder that a grand total of 4 male idol groups debuted in 2008. Got7 was the 3rd male group to debut this year and they debuted 2 weeks into January. Being in the Big 3 has already made a difference, because FYI this is what real flops look like: (this is all the 2012 and 2013 rookie groups I have on record that had <5K on Gaon) 2012C-Clown - Not Alone 2592A-Jax - 2MYX 2856Phantom - Phantom City 3000Tasty - Spectrum 3434C-Clown - Young Love 4140 201324K - U R So Cute 1042Iconize - Iconize 1357A-Jax - Snake 1442History - Dramer 1515M.Pire - New Born 1648History - Just Now 1711LC9 - Skirmish 1727A-Prince - Mambo 1731A-Jax - Insane 2067History - Blue Spring 2069Lunafly - Fly to Love 2188Bigstar - Hang Out 2207Mr.Mr - Waiting For You 2208Topp Dogg - Cigarette 2474Topp Dogg - Dogg's Out 2691Speed - Superior Speed 2726Tasty - Spectacular 2732Phantom - Phantom Theory 2825Boys Republic - Identity 3719 It's been a tragedy for most rookies since 2011. Some of these aren't even debut albums, they're 2nd and 3rd albums. Most male groups never even made it into the top 100 on monthly charts, which means they managed only a few hundred copies. Frankly, 10K is already an achievement. Stop using Exo and B.A.P as standards. They are both extreme outliers and are exceptions, not the rule. So, I really can't understand how GOT7 is a flop. Though they may not be a hit, but not a flop as far as I know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina 8,123 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I think the problem with GOT7's debut was that their song didn't sound like a debut song. It sounded as if it were something they could have released well into their career. It was just kind of meh. In other words, it needed to be more. Take Exo for example — MAMA was an incredible song to debut with. It got people talking, even though some of the talk was negative. JYP just needed to put more thought into their debut, because it seemed really subpar to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhaleWhisper 5,249 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 They hardly get any shit though. I hardly hear anyone say anything negative about them sans their sales being disappointing. Which for a big 3 company were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Jellyfish 23,232 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 well exo did sell 100k + for Mama so..... just saying Got7 didn't flop but they didn't excel. It was a pretty average debut considering they're from JYP. I think what really hurt them was when they stopped promotions of their mini b/c sales during that time were pretty low Digitally, yeah they flopped overall, but physically, they did decently still. They managed to sell more than 2am's debut and around the same (maybe more, I lost track now ) than 2pm's. JYPE doesn't exactly have strong physical sellers other than 2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeokdae 3,324 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 There's alot to talk about...but how is them not winning number one a a music show one of them? Not many debut groups do, no matter how succesful they are. Music shows aren't the only measure of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkeobel 1,479 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I've never seen any bad comment about them tho, nor did i see people talking shit about them. K-netz love them, i-fans like them too. IF you see anyone bashing them, then just ignore them. Every group has haters, they will eventually go away. And OP, the only reason EXO never won on Music Shows with MAMA was bc SMP songs flop on the Digital charts. If they promoted another song, they'd have won, cuz they had the fanvotes and amazing physical sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 well exo did sell 100k + for Mama so..... just saying Got7 didn't flop but they didn't excel. It was a pretty average debut considering they're from JYP. I think what really hurt them was when they stopped promotions of their mini b/c sales during that time were pretty low cough 85k actually GOT7 has like the third highest selling debut album for boy groups now I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylight324 154 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Every group has haters, so no need to take it seriously. But honestly they're actually doing really well and jype is actually promoting them very well as well. So they just need to keep this momentum going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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