What is your opinion about dual immersion programs?

[Gloupsidou]

 

 

Dual language is a form of education in which students are taught literacy and content in two languages. The majority of dual language programs in the United States teach in English and Spanish, although increasing numbers of programs use a partner language other than Spanish, such as Arabic, Chinese, French, Hawaiian, Japanese, or Korean. Dual language programs use the partner language for at least half of the instructional day in the elementary years.

 

Schools in my province tried to implement this type of program for Grade 6 ESL English but once Pauline Marois got elected she changed it and now it's up to the schools (and it's shit, basically).

 

Various documentaries focus on dual immersion programs, one of them being Speaking in Tongues (which you can watch here).  

 

 

Sometimes a small idea has big implications. Consider America’s resolute commitment to remaining an “English only†nation. It turns out that our attitudes about language reflect much bigger concerns: that language is a metaphor for the barriers that come between neighbors, be they across the street or around the world.

 

Our idea in making Speaking in Tongues was to showcase a world where these communication barriers are being addressed. An African-American boy from public housing learns to read, write, and speak Mandarin. A Mexican-American boy, whose parents are not literate in any language, develops professional-level Spanish while mastering English. A Chinese-American girl regains her grandparents’ mother tongue—a language her parents lost through assimilation. A Caucasian teen travels to Beijing to stay with a Mandarin speaking host family. Their stories reveal the promise of a multilingual America. Each kid’s world opens up when they start learning two languages on the first day of kindergarten; each is developing both bi-cultural and bi-lingual fluency.

 

I personally think dual immersion is so far the best educational method considering the increasing globalization. Plus, research has proven that most students who attended dual immersion schools perform much better than students with Enlish only/1st language only traditional schooling.

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i think its a really good idea and i wish it had been popular when i was young so i could have gotten the opportunity to do it :(

[TMI]

I like it.

[Midna]

I WISH WE HAD THIS. I mean we had French class, but it's just not enough

[Almondandlime]

It's a great idea and I wish I had gotten to do it. :(

[RubberDuckyTai]

My nephew is in a program like that. He started in Kindergarten with Spanish and English (my family's first language is Spanish, but we never bothered to teach him)...He was fluent in Spanish (and English, of course) by 2nd grade...He's in 4th grade now and doing Spanish and Mandarin (and again, of course English). It's fantastic. The younger the kids, the faster they learn languages. He's picking both up rather quickly and it's not affecting any of his core classes. I wish they'd had something like this when I was a kid.

[Supremacy]

i like it

[Schitstainz]

In public schools, the programs are pointless. In Ontario high schools, you are only required to take French up to grade 10. After you earn your two credits, you are done, and the language is most likely never used again.

 

 

I believe it can be very beneficial for the students in the future, but the programs/systems are poorly implemented. They should either put their all into it or remove it completely. Half-assing these programs are a waste of time, especially for students who don't care and would rather spend that time studying.

 

French shouldn't be the only language available either. While there are schools for other languages, usually done on weekends, they should still consider giving students options. 

[✽aya]

it's a great opportunity, it's sad there's still not enough school like this :(

[Supremacy]

We can learn maybe 14 languages, 2 languages per day in 7 days

 

[Gloupsidou]

In public schools, the programs are pointless. In Ontario high schools, you are only required to take French up to grade 10. After you earn your two credits, you are done, and the language is most likely never used again.

 

 

I believe it can be very beneficial for the students in the future, but the programs/systems are poorly implemented. They should either put their all into it or remove it completely. Half-assing these programs are a waste of time, especially for students who don't care and would rather spend that time studying.

 

French shouldn't be the only language available either. While there are schools for other languages, usually done on weekends, they should still consider giving students options. 

 

The programs are pointless because they're poorly implemented. 

 

And French should be the only language offered in RoC until the general population is fluent because Canada is a BILINGUAL country. I think the same should be true about English and Quebec. 

[stargazer]

I think it's a great idea. My lil cousin does it and he's much better at French than me even though I've been learning the language longer than he's been alive.

I wish I had been given the opportunity to do it to

[Insane]

When I went to the 5th grade it was mandatory to learn one language. Usually kids would choose between english or frensh. I had englsih and so would most kids. On 7th grade it was mandatory to have another language and I chose french. Then on 10th and 11th grade you only have to have one language, so I kept english.

 

So it was like 5th grade you choose one you'll have that at least until 9th grade. On 7th grade you choose a second one and you'll have it at least until 9th grande. On hight school you choose between one of those two to keep having. On 12th I had no foreign language.

 

I don't know if it changed meanwhile, I think the ministry wanted for kids to have english since 1st grade.

[Symphonyâ„¢]

Too much work and not enough teachers for it.

[Kuu-sus]

In public schools, the programs are pointless. In Ontario high schools, you are only required to take French up to grade 10. After you earn your two credits, you are done, and the language is most likely never used again.

 

 

I believe it can be very beneficial for the students in the future, but the programs/systems are poorly implemented. They should either put their all into it or remove it completely. Half-assing these programs are a waste of time, especially for students who don't care and would rather spend that time studying.

 

French shouldn't be the only language available either. While there are schools for other languages, usually done on weekends, they should still consider giving students options. 

 

not really true, I was in French immersion which is basically what this thread is about in Ontario

 

I took French all years until I graduated and did 2/3 of my classes until the 10th grade in French, anyway the system we have is pretty good just most parents opt-out their kids from it since it is harder per say and just go with the regular English curriculum which has a french class every year till grade 10 and yah I agree all my friends in regular classes had abysmal french by the end

 

 

anyway language immersion is great since you will learn English by default since you live in an English country so might as well teach kids in another necessary language for most of their education

 

idk about the US with Spanish , but here it is a major plus if you know French especially if wanna work for the government 

[초췌]

It's a cool idea but just a waste of time.

How many people are really going to need another language for their livelihood?

I think instead of using money on that, schools need to bolster the level of education for core subjects like English/whatever main language, math, science etc.

 

But I don't live in Canada, so I don't know if knowing another language changes much.

[Delincious]

it's great

there was something similar in my high school with english, but it was optional and just 2 hours (more than regular english classes)

[Gloupsidou]

It's a cool idea but just a waste of time.

How many people are really going to need another language for their livelihood?

I think instead of using money on that, schools need to bolster the level of education for core subjects like English/whatever main language, math, science etc.

 

But I don't live in Canada, so I don't know if knowing another language changes much.

 

obviously it is great for job opportunities because of globalization. Knowing another language is essential in business & communication. Also the documentary is about the US, not Canada and really worth watching (because it addresses those issues).

 

and thing is, schools wouldn't need to bolster the core subjects level because those are covered in dual immersion (they have their core subjects in the 2nd language and the main language) and students from those program perform better (I'm not pulling this out of my ass, it's based on actual research). 

[초췌]

obviously it is great for job opportunities because of globalization. Knowing another language is essential in business & communication. Also the documentary is about the US, not Canada and really worth watching (because it addresses those issues).

 

and thing is, schools wouldn't need to bolster the core subjects level because those are covered in dual immersion (they have their core subjects in the 2nd language and the main language) and students from those program perform better (I'm not pulling this out of my ass, it's based on actual research). 

Don't you have to pay to get into dual immersion schools? Then doing better in school may have more to do with family income and parent's understanding and push for education.

 

Even with increasing globalization, most people still have no position in which using another language is necessary or practical.

[Gloupsidou]

Don't you have to pay to get into dual immersion schools? Then doing better in school may have more to do with family income and parent's understanding and push for education.

 

Even with increasing globalization, most people still have no position in which using another language is necessary or practical.

 

Here it's implemented across the province, so it's for both private and public schools. It worked perfectly until Pauline Marois' French-only ass became Prime Minister.

 

Keep thinking that way and you'll wonder how come ppl get better jobs than you.

[Delincious]

Don't you have to pay to get into dual immersion schools? Then doing better in school may have more to do with family income and parent's understanding and push for education.

 

Even with increasing globalization, most people still have no position in which using another language is necessary or practical.

you could say the same about sciences and maths

[Fake]

My highschool is already doing this.

They set up a French-German program where pupils had a regular French program and then they add several hours of literature in German and all their history lessons were in German. They were like almost bilingual. Howeverit was hard they had like ten more hours of lessons and much much work to do.

 

I did the French-Chinese one who was more elaborated, we were taught literacy,civilization and maths in Chinese'. It is pretty experimental, teachers couldn't speak in French and we had no one to help us to understand them. However by the end of highschool, my Chinese was very good. However when I left for college there was no one who could provide us something to do to keep our level.

 

But it´s a good thing

[MasterOfCider]

We don't have any special sort of program like this, but I just made the decision to take two languages (French and Spanish.) It would be nice though, sine linguistics are one of the few things I'm good at.