EXO & f(x) stans

[Essay]

When you first heard of THAAD did you think it would have as big of an affect that it did?

Like thaad has been over for Months and you can still feel the effects....

Do you think either Victoria or Lay will ever return to their respective groups?

[tide]

original thoughts: whatever
current thoughts: whatever when are f(x)/exo coming back

[iJOUNEX]

wait THAAD is over?

[Insane]

I still don't get what happened and why they don't promote with their groups

[Liliana]

wait THAAD is over?

Not really

 

Anyway, well it’s unfortunate but it’s politics so we can’t really do much aside from supporting them and their individual activities

[Ddeona Oneul Bame]

THAAD's not over, LMAO

[Shun]

THAAD isn't over uh

[Essay]

THAAD isn't over uh

THAAD's not over, LMAO

wait THAAD is over?

Seoul (CNN)South Korea's new government has suspended the deployment of a controversial US missile defense system that strained relations with China and angered North Korea.

 

An official told CNN on Wednesday that while Seoul will not withdraw two launchers of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system that are already in action, four additional launchers will not be deployed until "a full-blown environmental impact assessment is completed."

During the recent election campaign, South Korean President Moon Jae-in called for the THAAD rollout to be halted and any decision about its future to be put before the country's parliament.

 

 

Deployment of THAAD was agreed by his predecessor -- disgraced President Park Geun-hye -- and Washington. The system was declared partially operational a week before Moon was elected.

At the time, analysts said this was an attempt to force Moon's hand and make it difficult for his government to withdraw the system from South Korea.

The THAAD rollout has been vociferously opposed by China, which fears it could be used to spy on its own defense and nuclear deterrent systems.

Relations between Seoul and Beijing have soured significantly as a result of its deployment, affecting South Korean businesses and Koreans living in China.

A spokesman for the Pentagon said the United States will work with the South Korean government "throughout this process."

"The US trusts (South Korea's) stance that the THAAD deployment was an alliance decision and it will not be reversed," Navy Cmdr. Gary Ross said.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/asia/south-korea-thaad-suspended/index.html

[seulmate]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/asia/south-korea-thaad-suspended/index.html

Updated 2003 GMT (0403 HKT) June 8, 2017 

THAAD is not over. i can't find articles right now but u can google it if u're interested in this topic

[WON Hallyu]

How is THAAD over? There are still onging protests and China keeps repeating itself for the billionth time to remove THAAD

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-southkorea/china-reiterates-calls-for-south-korea-to-remove-thaad-idUSKCN1BW0J7?il=0

 

As for Lay and Vic to return, they would risk their millions of income esp Vic who would make peanuts if she returned to f(x). SM obviously takes finance very seriously.

[Jia1994]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/asia/south-korea-thaad-suspended/index.html

 

It isn't really about the actually THAAD anymore, it's more the tensions surrounding the entire issue and attitudes towards SoKor. 

[Vitalis]

THAAD's not over, LMAO

[Cat_OTO]

I thought it was a diplomatic ruckus that would blow over in a month or two.

[yoyoxing]

thaad is not over lmao

 

update yourself

 

i have been saying since forever . back in march i was already anticipating yx not being in the comeback..in may things looked like they could turn into normal but SK asked for more missiles

 

unless korea removes the missiles , china will not back down and the situation will remain bleak for yx and vic

[yxsodamncharming]

wait THAAD is over?

 

THAAD's not over, LMAO

 

THAAD isn't over uh

 

It isn't really about the actually THAAD anymore, it's more the tensions surrounding the entire issue and attitudes towards SoKor. 

 

 

 

 

Seoul (CNN)South Korea's new government has suspended the deployment of a controversial US missile defense system that strained relations with China and angered North Korea.

 

An official told CNN on Wednesday that while Seoul will not withdraw two launchers of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system that are already in action, four additional launchers will not be deployed until "a full-blown environmental impact assessment is completed."

During the recent election campaign, South Korean President Moon Jae-in called for the THAAD rollout to be halted and any decision about its future to be put before the country's parliament.

 

 

Deployment of THAAD was agreed by his predecessor -- disgraced President Park Geun-hye -- and Washington. The system was declared partially operational a week before Moon was elected.

At the time, analysts said this was an attempt to force Moon's hand and make it difficult for his government to withdraw the system from South Korea.

The THAAD rollout has been vociferously opposed by China, which fears it could be used to spy on its own defense and nuclear deterrent systems.

Relations between Seoul and Beijing have soured significantly as a result of its deployment, affecting South Korean businesses and Koreans living in China.

A spokesman for the Pentagon said the United States will work with the South Korean government "throughout this process."

"The US trusts (South Korea's) stance that the THAAD deployment was an alliance decision and it will not be reversed," Navy Cmdr. Gary Ross said.

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/asia/south-korea-thaad-suspended/index.html

 

Essay, the article you had quoted is dated June 8, 2017 - it is outdated news, and misleading to post it saying Thaad is over.

The article you quoted stated that the remaining 4 launchers' installation was halted. But the truth is that these same 4 launchers were later installed in September 2017.

 

Latest articles from September and October 2017 - Thaad is definitely not over and is still a hot issue between S.Korea and China. 

 

 

South Korea installs four more US THAAD launchers to counter missile threat from North

Beijing objects to deployment in South Korea of an advanced US missile defence system that has a radar that can see deep into Chinese territory

PUBLISHED : 07 September, 2017

South Korea and the United States on Thursday completed the deployment of a US missile defence system to counter North Korean threats, sparking demonstrations by residents and a diplomatic protest from Beijing.

Clashes occurred throughout the night Wednesday near the site as some 400 residents of a nearby farming village fought police officers during a protest opposing the deployment.

Police said some 8,000 officers were sent to the area near the deployment site. Dozens of residents and police officers sustained injuries and were taken to nearby hospitals.

There have also been reports in past months about growing calls in China to boycott South Korean products and cancel appearances by South Korean pop singers or movie stars.

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2110106/south-korea-installs-four-more-us-thaad-launchers-counter

 

 

China reiterates calls for South Korea to remove THAAD

SEPTEMBER 21, 2017 

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi reiterated to his South Korean counterpart Beijing’s demand for the removal of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system, state news agency Xinhua said on Thursday.

 

Wang made the comments during a meeting with Kang Kyung-wha on the sidelines of a United Nations gathering in New York on Wednesday, it added.

 

South Korea and the United States say THAAD is needed to defend against the threat of North Korea, but China says it will do nothing to reduce tension and its powerful radar system threatens the country’s security.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-southkorea/china-reiterates-calls-for-south-korea-to-remove-thaad-idUSKCN1BW0J7?il=0

 

 

Hallyu surplus dips on China's THAAD retaliation

Posted : 2017-09-18 

South Korea's surplus coming from exports of services related to "hallyu," or the Korean wave, fell steeply on China's economic retaliation over the installment of a U.S. missile defense system here. 

 

According to the Bank of Korea, Monday, the country's trade account related with audio and video services marked a $179.9 million surplus in the first half of the year, down 23.2 percent from the second half of 2016. 

 

It is also the lowest figure since the latter half of 2015 when the country saw a $133.2 million surplus. 

 

The surplus includes trade of cultural content such as music, movies and TV programs. This also includes the earnings from Korean singers' overseas concerts. 

 

Korea has seen an increasing trade surplus in such cultural services on the expansion of Korean pop culture exports to China and Southeast Asia. 

 

Korea sustained a $3.8 million deficit in its audio- and video-related services account in 2013, but it turned to an $80.4 million surplus the following year. Last year, the annual surplus stood at $513 million, surpassing $500 million for the first time. 

 

China's economic retaliation on Korea following the deployment of a U.S. Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defense system here, however, dealt a blow to cultural exports. 

 

While Korea adopted the THAAD to protect itself against North Korea's intensifying missile and nuclear threats, China has claimed the missile shield hurts its own national interest. 

 

China has since been taking economic retaliation on Korea, including ordering travel agencies not to sell package tours to Korea and restricting Korean cultural exports. A series of cultural events related with Korea were canceled in China while some Korean entertainers starring in Chinese TV programs stepped down without specific reasons. 

 

Korea's Lotte Group, which became the main target of China's retaliation for providing its golf course for the THAAD site, decided recently to withdraw Lotte Mart from the Chinese market after sustaining an estimated 1 trillion won in losses. Chinese authorities forced most of its stores to suspend operations citing fire safety regulations. 

 

The central bank estimated in a report that China's economic retaliation will pull down Korea's economic growth rate by 0.2 percentage points on top of slashing 25,000 jobs. It is based on the estimation that Chinese tourists will drop by 30 percent this year and exports of goods will decrease 2 percent. 

 

China's economic retaliation has concentrated on the services sector such as tourism, retail and entertainment. 

 

Experts point out China is bashing Korean services instead of goods since it also needs components and materials from Korea for its own exports. 

 

It also is seemingly taking care not to violate WTO regulations. 

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/biz/2017/09/488_236644.html

 

 

Chinese tourists shun South Korea over Golden Week holiday as THAAD backlash continues

Published on OCT 5, 2017

As Golden Week travel hell descends upon the world, there is at least one place where one can go to get a bit of peace and quiet -- South Korea.

 

While it was Chinese tourists' top travel destination last Golden Week, South Korea now does not even make the top 20, according to a report from Ctrip about the 6 million mainland tourists heading abroad during this year's week-long holiday. Compared to last year, the number of Chinese travelers heading to South Korea over the extended holiday period has plunged by an astonishing 70 percent, the report said.

 

This dramatic change has come about as China has punished South Korea for the installation of the US-backed THAAD missile defense system, which Beijing views as a threat to its own national security and Seoul sees as a necessity to guard against its nuclear-obsessed neighbor.

 

In March, Chinese travel agencies were banned from sending tour groups to South Korea and Chinese travel companies were pressured to cut down on flights and cruises between China and South Korea. In one particularly sensational incident, 3,400 Chinese tourists simply refused to set foot on South Korean soil after their cruise ship docked at the resort island of Jeju -- once one of the world's top destinations for Chinese tourists.

 

Last year, over 100 Chinese tourists memorably spent their Golden Week holiday trapped inside the Jeju airport, denied entry to the island for not carrying with them hotel bookings and other travel documents.

 

That scene seems unlikely to repeat this year.

"There used to be 300 to 400 guides for Chinese tourists on the island, but now there are no more than 50," Park Jung-kwan, a 39-year-old Chinese native who migrated to Jeju to work as a tour guide and driver, told the South China Morning Post. "Chinese are too embarrassed to come to South Korea."

 

This comes as a bit of good news for Jeju island residents who prefer a more peaceful life. Back in 2008, Jeju island implemented a 30-day, visa-free policy for Chinese tourists which turned the tiny island into a Chinese tourism gold mine. In 2016, the island received a record 3.1 million Chinese tourists, which accounted for about 90% of its total visitors from abroad.

 

But waves of Chinese tourists also led to an increase in crime and uncivilized behavior which alarmed locals. Last September, more than 11,000 of them signed a petition calling for an end to visa-free entry for Chinese tourists. While the government refused to consider ending the policy, it seems that they may now have got what they wanted -- at the expense of the local economy.

 

China's crackdown on South Korean tourism caused the number of Chinese tourists visiting the country to plummet by 40 percent in March, dealing the country's tourism industry a heavy blow. Hardest hit were the duty-free shops which rely heavily on deep-pocketed Chinese tourists for 70% of their business.

 

South Korea's loss has been Thailand's gain as the country now sits at the top of Chinese tourists' Golden Week travel destinations, followed by Japan and Singapore.

http://shanghaiist.com/2017/10/05/south-korea-golden-week.php