Hyooga 10,307 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Especially the new gen groups with huge fandoms like I mentioned in my tags. Sure BTS may be one of the ones people think who only benefits from this but I know the voting power of K-Pop fandoms as a whole, especially if they won't limit engagement to US. You know their fans gonna vote the shit out of them and will give them that TRL exposure, and might even invite them to perform in Times Square and expose them to a new audience,. Like seriously just throw in EXO or Black Pink in there, you know their fans going to vote to keep them on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 7,555 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 We can do without that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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damewon 500 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Are ARMY drinking too much soju or is there a chance BTS could really be invited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyrose 12,654 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 i was thinking the same tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 why are some of you guys so desperate for western validation Do you legit believe SM, JYP or YG don't want it? They just aren't pursuing it because they've been burned by previously trying for it. But I bet they still want it if they're assured that it will work. Edit: In YG's case he's still trying it with CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeNari 719 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Are ARMY drinking too much soju or is there a chance BTS could really be invited? Click here to view the Tweet plus mtv and bts are following each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akpheart 14,900 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 why are some of you guys so desperate for western validation Do you say this about Japan? A market is a market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImAmazing 7,501 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Funny how some of the Big 3 stans conveniently forget how their favs' companies were pushing out their groups/artists to promote in the US to drag Bts and armys. Bts hasn't released a song in English. I don't really see it benefiting other groups unless they have a decent sized US fan base, but I could be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belkiss 22,804 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 The negging squad is here again. Let me see you again when you hear a glimpse of the possiblilty that your faves might get invited. You wouldn't call that irrelevant for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caipirinhas 11,816 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hyooga 10,307 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 Funny how some of the Big 3 stans conveniently forget how their favs' companies were pushing out their groups/artists to promote in the US to drag Bts and armys. Bts hasn't released a song in English. I don't really see it benefiting other groups unless they have a decent sized US fan base, but I could be proved wrong. I don't think TRL will have a mechanism to filter out engagement outside the US. You can bet big fandoms will vote the heck out of it plus trend hashtags endlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOLY 33,373 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Other groups are already benefitting from BTS' breakthrough. All their stans can do is talk shit while feeding themselves with those same achievements they call irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImAmazing 7,501 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I don't think TRL will have a mechanism to filter out engagement outside the US. You can bet big fandoms will vote the heck out of it plus trend hashtags endlessly. I've never really watch TRL so I don't really know how it works tbh. But like I said I could be wrong, I guess if there's enough demand TRL will listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil4life 3,270 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 emphasis on IF since im not too confident about this whole TRL 2.0 but that would definitely be awesome if K-pop fans could push groups like BTS, BLACKPINK, and others on the TRL charts and convert more K-pop fans the way EXO vs 1D did, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazard125 4,484 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I don't think TRL will have a mechanism to filter out engagement outside the US. You can bet big fandoms will vote the heck out of it plus trend hashtags endlessly. Text voting or requiring Facebook login. Either would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 Other groups are already benefitting from BTS' breakthrough. All their stans can do is talk shit while feeding themselves with those same achievements they call irrelevant. TBH I'm really excited for this. The American music industry needs some shaking up tbh. I just made my American grand-uncle watch the Comeback Stages and he immediately commented that it's amazing how not one of the seven boys were slacking off. I feel that kind of quality will endear them.And lbh, BTS is not only the hardworking group out there. Having these new genre sneak its way into the younger US demographic will have some sort of slow effect as time passes by imho, and perhaps this could actually benefit the US industry as well from beign stagnant. Text voting or requiring Facebook login. Either would do it. Text voting would certainly need a US number but Facebook could invite a threshold of outside US fans right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diphylleia grayi 2,705 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerchic88 9,477 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hm I mean in a lot of countries their local MTV version play kpop. Like in India for example VH1 has a kpop hour. This isn't a question of western validation but just catering to fans. But honestly guys how many of you living in the US watch TV? :'D I don't. I don't even have cable the only reason I have a "T V" is to cast my Netflix :'D I guess 10 years ago it would have benefited but like I think the young audience that watches kpop doesn't watch TV. At least that's my assessment. But overall I vote yes on any country having a kpop hour on tv radio etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyedes 2,896 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 why are some of you guys so desperate for western validation Some fans are actually looking at the bigger picture. Western digital (and concert) market>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Korea's. It's not truly about becoming mainstream among the public, but the profit that can be made from the music market. Low-mid tier acts in the West can make more from digital sales than top tier Korean acts in Korea's market. BTS's lastest album made over $300k from spotify royalties in 2 weeks, It's not easy to make that much in Korea's digital market in such a short time span. An act would need over 700 million streams in Korea to make that much in royalties. Taking all that in consideration, it will definitely benefit kpop. TBH if Korea's digital and concert market were actually flourishing~, they wouldn't need to break into the market's of other countries in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diminie 12,045 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Other groups are already benefitting from BTS' breakthrough. All their stans can do is talk shit while feeding themselves with those same achievements they call irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashfox 3,149 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Some fans are actually looking at the bigger picture. Western digital (and concert) market>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Korea's. It's not truly about becoming mainstream among the public, but the profit that can be made from the music market. Low-mid tier acts in the West can make more from digital sales than top tier Korean acts in Korea's market. BTS's lastest album made over $300k from spotify royalties in 2 weeks, It's not easy to make that much in Korea's digital market in such a short time span. An act would need over 700 million streams in Korea to make that much in royalties. Taking all that in consideration, it will definitely benefit kpop. TBH if Korea's digital and concert market were actually flourishing~, they wouldn't need to break into the market's of other countries in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hm I mean in a lot of countries their local MTV version play kpop. Like in India for example VH1 has a kpop hour. This isn't a question of western validation but just catering to fans. But honestly guys how many of you living in the US watch TV? :'D I don't. I don't even have cable the only reason I have a "T V" is to cast my Netflix :'D I guess 10 years ago it would have benefited but like I think the young audience that watches kpop doesn't watch TV. At least that's my assessment. But overall I vote yes on any country having a kpop hour on tv radio etc. My younger cousin is a huge Dolan twins fan (they'll be the Carson Daly of the revival of TRL) and she said it seems this new one will have a more social media angle instead of the traditional ways the old version used to have. So they're definitely aiming for the tact techi, internet savvy generation with this TRL revival. I mean, the fact you got the Dolan Twins to host... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerchic88 9,477 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 My younger cousin is a huge Dolan twins fan (they'll be the Carson Daly of the revival of TRL) and she said it seems this new one will have a more social media angle instead of the traditional ways the old version used to have. So they're definitely aiming for the tact techi, internet savvy generation with this TRL revival. I mean, the fact you got the Dolan Twins to host... Man I'm too old for this shit I had to Google Dolan twins. I mean if the audience is there I vote yes. But I'm a bit skeptical about merging it with mainstream American music. I prefer dedicated kpop hours instead cuz I guess I find the idea a bit cringe? But that could just be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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