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clc deserves better

They don't. They have been inconsistent music and concept wise and because of this, they just ruined the chances of having new fans. Therefore, resulting in fewer sales and the fact that they are a senior group means that they are destined to be lack-luster and everything.

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fish are wet when they're underwater 

In our context, yes. 

 

In the fish's context, no. They are used to that environment/ condition and thus, being wet in the fish's context would simply be something like in our context that we are dry unless we perspire or are exposed to rain or any form of liquid.

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Twice is Best GG

RV is Best GG

BlackPink is Best GG

 

Exo is Best BG

BTS is best BG

Wanna one is best BG

 

let's see how many fandom you dare to offend laugh.png

So.. What is your standard of a "best girl group or boy group"?

 

 

You stated these groups as the best ( it should only be one group, grammar please) meaning absolute or lack of nothing, as a fact as if it's based on studies and research.

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So.. What is your standard of a "best girl group or boy group"?

 

 

You stated these groups as the best ( it should only be one group, grammar please) meaning absolute or lack of nothing, as a fact as if it's based on studies and research.

 

bleh argument about grammar instead, no thx, boring thread.

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bleh argument about grammar instead, no thx, boring thread.

Your argument of me arguing your grammar doesn't make it any less credible.If you really want me to start fandom wars or some shit then ok.

But then again what you had just said was based on your opinion. Others may have set the standards as well. 

 

My opinion:

" Twice is the best GG"

 

Twice lacks talent. They only have one average vocalist and one visual. They don't use the right technique in dancing and singing. A lot of their fans claim that the group has a amazing visuals, when in reality they have the cheerleader effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleader_effect

 

" Red Velvet is the best GG" 

RV is overhyped. Wendy stans claim that she is the best vocalist in the current generation when for all we know there could be a vocalist in a nugu group or a vocalist more skilled that Wendy that hasn't debuted yet. Same goes for Seulgi stans, I've seen her best and worst moments in dancing and she's not what her fans claimed to be. They said she has good technique, good stamina, and charisma but when you see that she fails too much expectations... she is nothing of that sort. Joy is a weak vocalist with good timbre and weak and shallow breath support -- a bad combination is you ask me. Irene and Hyeri are average. They have a skill of an ordinary person singing karaoke bars. They also don't have good rappers.

 

" Blackpink is the best GG"

Blackpink is overhyped too. Lisa stans praise her for her dancing and rapping skills. When in reality, she looks stiff, has a fake smile ( most of the time) and she doesn't the right technique. Her execution makes up for it though. Jennie screams when singing she should rapping. But then again her flow and diction is not good, same goes for Lisa. They both sound like a member of Alvin and the chipmunks. Rose needs improvement in her vocals. She is nasal most of the time due to favoring style over technique, which makes her voice sound " unique" when in fact that style has been adapted in indie music. For Jisoo...no comment.

 

" EXO is the best BG"

Well considering the fact that they lost not 1 but 3 members. I don't think so.

 

" BTS is the best BG"

They have a dance hole, weak vocalist and good rappers. Jimin  tries to be sexy and his stans always claim that he is the best dancer out of the group, they must be blind.  Rap Monster looks like Koro-sensei in Assassination Classroom when he smiles. Jungkook stans claims that he is a " golden maknae" when he's just above average. 

 

"Wanna One is the best BG"

They're a temporary group and they won a survival show that allows viewers to vote who they want to win. 

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Your argument of me arguing your grammar doesn't make it any less credible.If you really want me to start fandom wars or some shit then ok.

But then again what you had just said was based on your opinion. Others may have set the standards as well. 

 

My opinion:

" Twice is the best GG"

 

Twice lacks talent. They only have one average vocalist and one visual. They don't use the right technique in dancing and singing. A lot of their fans claim that the group has a amazing visuals, when in reality they have the cheerleader effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleader_effect

 

" Red Velvet is the best GG" 

RV is overhyped. Wendy stans claim that she is the best vocalist in the current generation when for all we know there could be a vocalist in a nugu group or a vocalist more skilled that Wendy that hasn't debuted yet. Same goes for Seulgi stans, I've seen her best and worst moments in dancing and she's not what her fans claimed to be. They said she has good technique, good stamina, and charisma but when you see that she fails too much expectations... she is nothing of that sort. Joy is a weak vocalist with good timbre and weak and shallow breath support -- a bad combination is you ask me. Irene and Hyeri are average. They have a skill of an ordinary person singing karaoke bars. They also don't have good rappers.

 

" Blackpink is the best GG"

Blackpink is overhyped too. Lisa stans praise her for her dancing and rapping skills. When in reality, she looks stiff, has a fake smile ( most of the time) and she doesn't the right technique. Her execution makes up for it though. Jennie screams when singing she should rapping. But then again her flow and diction is not good, same goes for Lisa. They both sound like a member of Alvin and the chipmunks. Rose needs improvement in her vocals. She is nasal most of the time due to favoring style over technique, which makes her voice sound " unique" when in fact that style has been adapted in indie music. For Jisoo...no comment.

 

" EXO is the best BG"

Well considering the fact that they lost not 1 but 3 members. I don't think so.

 

" BTS is the best BG"

They have a dance hole, weak vocalist and good rappers. Jimin  tries to be sexy and his stans always claim that he is the best dancer out of the group, they must be blind.  Rap Monster looks like Koro-sensei in Assassination Classroom when he smiles. Jungkook stans claims that he is a " golden maknae" when he's just above average. 

 

"Wanna One is the best BG"

They're a temporary group and they won a survival show that allows viewers to vote who they want to win. 

ok nice that's what i'm looking for, upvotes from me. laugh.png

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1. My display picture is a picture of Onew from SHINee.

 

2. The only time the word wrong is not spelled wrong, is when it is spelled wrong,

 

Try to disprove those two.

1. Your display picture is overly edited with high exposure.

2. "Wrong" I spelled it as wrong which refers to the latter part of your statement "it is spelled wrong", yet in the first part of your statement it says "the only time the word wrong is not spelled wrong", yet I spelled it as "wrong" which means that I spelled it wrong yet it is still spelled wrong since i wrote it as wrong.

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Beating innocent elderly people over the head with a newspaper is bad

Newspaper. If you used newspaper to hit someone in the head, in no way will it hurt. 

 

Also if they did it playfully then it's not technically bad since they did it playfully.

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Your argument of me arguing your grammar doesn't make it any less credible.If you really want me to start fandom wars or some shit then ok.

But then again what you had just said was based on your opinion. Others may have set the standards as well.

 

My opinion:

" Twice is the best GG"

 

Twice lacks talent. They only have one average vocalist and one visual. They don't use the right technique in dancing and singing. A lot of their fans claim that the group has a amazing visuals, when in reality they have the cheerleader effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleader_effect

 

" Red Velvet is the best GG"

RV is overhyped. Wendy stans claim that she is the best vocalist in the current generation when for all we know there could be a vocalist in a nugu group or a vocalist more skilled that Wendy that hasn't debuted yet. Same goes for Seulgi stans, I've seen her best and worst moments in dancing and she's not what her fans claimed to be. They said she has good technique, good stamina, and charisma but when you see that she fails too much expectations... she is nothing of that sort. Joy is a weak vocalist with good timbre and weak and shallow breath support -- a bad combination is you ask me. Irene and Hyeri are average. They have a skill of an ordinary person singing karaoke bars. They also don't have good rappers.

 

" Blackpink is the best GG"

Blackpink is overhyped too. Lisa stans praise her for her dancing and rapping skills. When in reality, she looks stiff, has a fake smile ( most of the time) and she doesn't the right technique. Her execution makes up for it though. Jennie screams when singing she should rapping. But then again her flow and diction is not good, same goes for Lisa. They both sound like a member of Alvin and the chipmunks. Rose needs improvement in her vocals. She is nasal most of the time due to favoring style over technique, which makes her voice sound " unique" when in fact that style has been adapted in indie music. For Jisoo...no comment.

 

" EXO is the best BG"

Well considering the fact that they lost not 1 but 3 members. I don't think so.

 

" BTS is the best BG"

They have a dance hole, weak vocalist and good rappers. Jimin tries to be sexy and his stans always claim that he is the best dancer out of the group, they must be blind. Rap Monster looks like Koro-sensei in Assassination Classroom when he smiles. Jungkook stans claims that he is a " golden maknae" when he's just above average.

 

"Wanna One is the best BG"

They're a temporary group and they won a survival show that allows viewers to vote who they want to win.

All your arguments are shit, they're just taken out of your goddamn need to 'counter' everything. You don't even have receipts regarding your claims and we aren't provided by your 'standards' in judging them. Lisa doesn't use the right technique? Mind telling me your supposed 'arguments'? Jennie screams to overpower the loud MR (have you seen her Sure Thing Cover?) Their flows are nice, not the best but are nice.

 

Those 'arguments' don't even counter the statement 'Best GG/BG' they are all meant to insult and negate every claims made for the sake of answering your stupid thread.

 

 

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Water is wet

 

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Wet ,according to the dictionary, is being surrounded or soaked with water. Water in itself is wet but how can we say that it is wet when the dictionary says wet is the state of being surrounded or soaked with water. And since, we have already experienced water before we assume water is wet.

 

For example, if someone were to see a purple pile of liquid on the street, they would assume that it is either radioactive or poisonous since is is how it is portrayed in media, anime etc. but what if "that" liquid is actually normal water yet it is just colored purple.

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All your arguments are shit, they're just taken out of your goddamn need to 'counter' everything. You don't even have receipts regarding your claims and we aren't provided by your 'standards' in judging them. Lisa doesn't use the right technique? Mind telling me your supposed 'arguments'? Jennie screams to overpower the loud MR (have you seen her Sure Thing Cover?) Their flows are nice, not the best but are nice.

 

Those 'arguments' don't even counter the statement 'Best GG/BG' they are all meant to insult and negate every claims made for the sake of answering your stupid thread.

 

 

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In case you haven't noticed I posted it in Random and one of the tags is "Just for fun", and if you look at the original question my first reply was "what exactly is your standard of the best", by this statement I was implying that the user was wrong in the sense that he/she stated that those groups are the best in her/his opinion and not grounded on research, then he/she replied that I need to make a "true" argument which I did. I explained my own set of standards on what really makes a group "the best", now this isn't to say that you have to follow my standards, that wasn't my intention. I just simply shared what is my own standards as well as the original user. 

 

You want receipts? here are receipts. If you looked at every performance of Boombayah, Whistle, PWF, AIIYL, she was monotonous most of the time, it could be how YG wants them to rap or some other reason that I probably don't know, I expect a good rapper to have various emotions and tone in rapping with good techniques for the components of a good rap. I don't really hear a difference with how Lisa raps and various other performances they had, but then again there really isn't much to judge since it's only been a year since they debuted and there aren't much shows where they went where they could showcase their skills. As for Jennie you basically just emphasized what I said when she screams most of the time.

 

Tl:Dr: I have my own set of standards, as well as the other user and everyone else, I did not tell you to follow my own standards. 

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