Do you think JYJ regret leaving SM?

[Hyooga]

I don't feel junsu or yoochun regret but jaejoong gives me the vibes he does.

[How Nice]

No. I don't think any of them regret leaving SM, I do think they regret giving up some friendships though (you know, if they even had to)

[STORM]

Not at all. They're all rich doing their own thing, and they're not a cash cow for someone else. 

[Ddeona Oneul Bame]

No one would ever regret leaving SM~

[moritania]

Never

[l�l��]

Jaejoong just bought a house of 2 million dollars recently and you still think he regrets? xD 

[echobunny]

no

[Rose.]

nope

[Valena]

Not at all. They're all rich doing their own thing, and they're not a cash cow for someone else.

^this. At least they are not SM slave like tvxq today. Not every idol in sm are slave but tvxq surely are , since sm never bother to promote them well nor building their career music wise. Only being worked to bring money

[changdolie]

I don't feel junsu or yoochun regret but jaejoong gives me the vibes he does.

We can't know that but its clear they regret some of the things they did after they left especially with how they treated Yunho and Changmin.

[WaitingDB5K]

No but I'm sure that they would really love keep contact at least with Yunho and Changmin. Jaejoong looked so happy to see Yunho in army...

[changdolie]

Not at all. They're all rich doing their own thing, and they're not a cash cow for someone else. 

They would still be doing their own thing in SM now because they would be seniors in SM and they would have earned more money than they do now. Yunho and Changmin make more money than JYJ. Even while SM still had huge investments to pay off the contracts were perfectly fair on their profit sharing with the boys. They got 70% profits for overseas activities and 65% for local. Now that Yunho and Changmin paid off all the investments for all five of them, the profits they earn are even higher for just t two of them from their huge tours in Japan. In fact they paid off their investments from the 2012 Japanese tour alone. JYJ either didn't understand business or finances very well or at all.

[sumikosan]

My goodness reading some comments here.. .It is understandable when things does not turned out the way some perceived ,painted and wanted for the trio. In the end the three of them obtained what they wanted for their careers.

[l�l��]

They would still be doing their own thing in SM now because they would be seniors in SM and they would have earned more money than they do now. Yunho and Changmin make more money than JYJ for. Even while SM still had investments to pay off the contracts were perfectly fair on their profit sharing with the boys. They gt 70% profits for overseas activities and 65% for local. Now that Yunho and Changmin paid off all the investments for all five of them, the profits they earn are even higher for just t two of them from their huge tours in Japan. In fact they paid off their investments from the 2012 Japanese tour. JYJ either didn't understand business or finances very well or at all.

Jaejoong who has successful business and investments,even owned two buildings knows nothing about business? ..yeah lol

You seem quite desperate to see them regretting for this lol

 

sorry no xD

[changdolie]

They would still be doing their own thing in SM now because they would be seniors in SM and they would have earned more money than they do now. Yunho and Changmin make more money than JYJ for. Even while SM still had investments to pay off the contracts were perfectly fair on their profit sharing with the boys. They gt 70% profits for overseas activities and 65% for local. Now that Yunho and Changmin paid off all the investments for all five of them, the profits they earn are even higher for just t two of them from their huge tours in Japan. In fact they paid off their investments from the 2012 Japanese tour. JYJ either didn't understand business or finances very well or at all.

 

^this. At least they are not SM slave like tvxq today. Not every idol in sm are slave but tvxq surely are , since sm never bother to promote them well nor building their career music wise. Only being worked to bring money

How dare you speak about TVXQ like this you fool? TVXQ did what they wanted from the beginning. Do you remember why JYJ had problems with SM? It was because of the cosmetics business that JYJ and their families got involved with and TVXQ refused to be part of. Yunho and Changmin's minds about TVXQ didn't change because they could make more money or because SM refused to compromise on an unknown and shady business and they said so in their publicly signed statement.“Simply said, we believe everything started to change after the 3 started the cosmetics business.†- Yunho and Changmin’s official statements 2009.  Are those the actions of slaves? JYJ thought the business would be more profitable and to hell with TVXQ. Junsu's friend said "I went to Beijing in 1999 when I was 16 to study abroad. That’s when I got to know TVXQ’s Xiah Junsu through an online game.â€â€œWhen I began my cosmetics business in China after I graduated from college, I started it up with Xiah Junsu. At the time, SM’s CEO Kim Young Min gave us permission to work together. But when things started to flow smoothly, problems arose for us.†The event caused Xiah Junsu, YoungWoong Jaejoong, and Micky Yoochun to leave SM and create a new group JYJ.“

 

Suju, Shinee, Girls generation and others all do what they want and you think TVXQ are slaves? Is that because they do not do or didn't do what you wanted or expected them to? Is it because they did not follow JYJ out of SM even if they didn't want to? That would make them slaves right there. Slaves to JYJ's whims and wants while ignoring theirs. They stood their ground and refused to do anything they didn't want to even if they didn't know what the future held for both of them after JYJ left. JYJ had Avex and it promised a better future then and JYJ thought Yuno and Changmin would change their minds but they clearly didn't know those two well. JYJ thought because Avex chose to work with them and stopped working with SM, TVXQ would go against their principles and eventually join them. Stop calling TVXQ slaves because they don't fit into the mold of what you expected of them. That is stupid and not very well thought out. Yunho and Changmin CHOSE not join the cosmetics business, they CHOSE to stay and CHOSE not to leave with JYJ. You may not like it but they did what they felt was right for them. 

[changdolie]

 

Jaejoong who has successful business and investments,even owned two buildings knows nothing about business? ..yeah lol

You seem quite desperate to see them regretting for this lol

 

sorry no xD

 

Lol what am I supposed to be desperate about? Don't be silly. Did I say JYJ weren't rich? They are but they would have been richer as TVXQ are although they don't show off about it. Did you understand what I wrote at all or are you like JYJ who did not understand business? They expected too much too soon and were impatient. They understand business now (well some of them anyway), but in 2009 its obvious they didn't. When they didn't get the payment they expected they complained even though they had borrowed money from SM and that was cut out of their pay. Now is not 2009. Do you understand now?

[sumikosan]

For one minute I thought the OP had other tags in this thread. But it is only JYJ. The interest though from the same few ....lol  same from ancient time it seem..

[remembering]

Maybe they regret how it all went down and SM continuing to block them in Korea. But leaving, doubt it.

[official199x]

Lol not at all. They seem to be more free musically wise since they left.

[Valena]

How dare you speak about TVXQ like this you fool? TVXQ did what they wanted from the beginning. Do you remember why JYJ had problems with SM? It was because of the cosmetics business that JYJ and their families got involved with and TVXQ refused to be part of. Yunho and Changmin's minds about TVXQ didn't change because they could make more money or because SM refused to compromise on an unknown and shady business and they said so in their publicly signed statement.“Simply said, we believe everything started to change after the 3 started the cosmetics business.†- Yunho and Changmin’s official statements 2009. Are those the actions of slaves? JYJ thought the business would be more profitable and to hell with TVXQ. Junsu's friend said "I went to Beijing in 1999 when I was 16 to study abroad. That’s when I got to know TVXQ’s Xiah Junsu through an online game.â€â€œWhen I began my cosmetics business in China after I graduated from college, I started it up with Xiah Junsu. At the time, SM’s CEO Kim Young Min gave us permission to work together. But when things started to flow smoothly, problems arose for us.†The event caused Xiah Junsu, YoungWoong Jaejoong, and Micky Yoochun to leave SM and create a new group JYJ.“

 

Suju, Shinee, Girls generation and others all do what they want and you think TVXQ are slaves? Is that because they do not do or didn't do what you wanted or expected them to? Is it because they did not follow JYJ out of SM even if they didn't want to? That would make them slaves right there. Slaves to JYJ's whims and wants while ignoring theirs. They stood their ground and refused to do anything they didn't want to even if they didn't know what the future held for both of them after JYJ left. JYJ had Avex and it promised a better future then and JYJ thought Yuno and Changmin would change their minds but they clearly didn't know those two well. JYJ thought because Avex chose to work with them and stopped working with SM, TVXQ would go against their principles and eventually join them. Stop calling TVXQ slaves because they don't fit into the mold of what you expected of them. That is stupid and not very well thought out. Yunho and Changmin CHOSE not join the cosmetics business, they CHOSE to stay and CHOSE not to leave with JYJ. You may not like it but they did what they felt was right for them.

It's not about money.

It's about how sm didnt help tvxq growing their fandom. Growing their music etc. That's why they are slave. Unlike YG who stamp a musician tag to bigbang therefore keeping their relevancy high.. SM didnt do the same for tvxq & only treat them like solely worker to only earn money ,not earning relevancy nor popularity

 

Same goes with other SM group only few get their music career grow.

Does new generation of kpop fans stan for tvxq ? Barely. But they do stan bigbang despite bigbang being a veteran act. There are regeneration in fandom

Older fans left & being replaced by younger fans.

 

Does that happens to SM group ? Unfortunately no

[Teru]

It's not about money.

It's about how sm didnt help tvxq growing their fandom. Growing their music etc. That's why they are slave. Unlike YG who stamp a musician tag to bigbang therefore keeping their relevancy high.. SM didnt do the same for tvxq & only treat them like solely worker to only earn money ,not earning relevancy nor popularity

 

Same goes with other SM group only few get their music career grow.

Does new generation of kpop fans stan for tvxq ? Barely. But they do stan bigbang despite bigbang being a veteran act. There are regeneration in fandom

Older fans left & being replaced by younger fans.

 

Does that happens to SM group ? Unfortunately no

 

damn Windrepel this is like your 5th account made just to say this over and over, don't you get bored?

 

as for the OP, I don't know but I think they're fine with it. it's been almost 8 years, we would probably know by know were it the case

[Defiance]

No, to this question, this was JJ's answer

 

Tell us three of the happiest moments in your 20s?

 

Firstly ... when we won the lawsuit against SM

Secondly ... in Japan ... when we released our first single album as JYJ...

And originally, before I enlist, I almost could not meet my members but I could spend time with them for 1 night 2 days.

[Flo86]

I don't feel junsu or yoochun regret but jaejoong gives me the vibes he does.

What vibe?

 

I think even if there's a vibe here, this is more about how their friendships end up in bittersweet for years but seems like everything is fine already between jj and yh, it a surprise things seeing them in conversation casually like this is not the first time they meet after almost 5 years walking in different path... or it could be they are already in touch without cry cry fandom knew .. lol

 

Anyway I don't think JYJ regret

[mizuky]

duh all i can see is a BTS stan starting to make an OP that will lead to never-getting-old fanwar about TVXQ and JYJ and also it brings some bigbang fans opportunity to bash TVXQ saying that they are just a 'slave' by SM haha lol      

[changdolie]

It's not about money.

It's about how sm didnt help tvxq growing their fandom. Growing their music etc. That's why they are slave. Unlike YG who stamp a musician tag to bigbang therefore keeping their relevancy high.. SM didnt do the same for tvxq & only treat them like solely worker to only earn money ,not earning relevancy nor popularity

 

Same goes with other SM group only few get their music career grow.

Does new generation of kpop fans stan for tvxq ? Barely. But they do stan bigbang despite bigbang being a veteran act. There are regeneration in fandom

Older fandom left & being replaced by younger fans.

 

Does that happens to SM group ? Unfortunately no

JYJ left because of money. It was the main reason why they left. So yes, it is about money. Except the cosmetics business failed so many choose to ignore it nowadays. in 2009 and 10 many fans couldn't stop writing about the shops and the products they bought which were very expensive.

 

How can you say stupid things while awake? Be serious. TVXQ had the biggest fandom at the time. Their music was changing and evolving, as it always does in the music business. They were very relevant and popular at the time even more than Big bang and had JYJ not left, very few would be able to compete with them. TVXQ was SM's most important and biggest group. You don't know what you're talking about. Once SM refused to compromise on their cosmetics business, JYJ chose to leave. They had invested a lot of money in it. They were directors. http://www.dbsknights.net/2009/08/photos-crebeau-business-cards.html  and at the time the business seemed like it was going to be very successful. They had big plans for it. 

 

Stop using the term slave so easily my darling. If you look up what the word means, you will see no one is a slave in SM but JYJ's PR worked hard to make it that way that some SM artists including Jaejoong's friend Heechul made it very clear they are not slaves.

 

Those in SM who get solos (if they choose too), are seniors who have been in the company long. JYJ wrote songs for their albums didn't they? They would have gotten what they wanted after establishing TVXQ and most of their investments paid off. Like I said they were impatient and wanted everything there and then. SM had already planned solo activities such as acting and different music projects for the boys. Jaejoong had a drama, Junsu was supposed to take part in SM the ballad. Their careers would have grown. Jonghyun from Shinee recorded an album wit only his songs because he could. Then what about TVXQ if that is what they wanted? Stop trying to make up reasons why JYJ left. They told us why. Profit distribution and length of contract which they signed and amended five times.  

 

Don't over glorify Bigbang and YG, they have their own set of issues even though you might not know about them. From time to time Bigbang grumble about their agency too. If they are stanned more than TVXQ good for them. I am not a fan of TVXQ because I am deluded about how famous i think they are. Their fame dropped after JYJ left but their careers are still strong and they are one of the highest earners in SM and kpop. I also don't think SM is perfect because no agency is but I won't stand by and listen to lies about them either. JYJ left because they felt they had better futuresand could make more money else where. They thought if they left Yunho and Changmin would follow them because they never thought TVXQ could continue without them. They thought they are what made TVXQ successful but in reality it was a combination of hard work from many people within SM including them. Yunho and Changmin knew that and said so in their statement. That is why TVXQ came back as a duo and became even more successful than TVXQ with five members. 

 

Things change all the time in the entertainment industry. Its a fragile business. What was trendy one minute isn't the next. Older groups don't do as well because their fans grow up and the younger fans have younger spankier idols to stan. As long as they can continue to work and earn a living, the older groups are fine. TVXQ is doing just fine. Better than some thought they ever would. If it wasn't for SM, there would be no TVXQ. SM have been very supportive of them more than JYJ who left it to cease. The determination of SM and TVXQ have brought it this far. How old are you to say such silly things?