Entertainment Agencies Don’t Want TV Stations To Produce Audition Programs

[JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY]

Entertainment agencies are unhappy with how broadcasting stations are running their audition programs.

 

 

They’ve brought up complaints demanding the broadcasting stations to stop taking over management of their artists once the show is over.

 

“[Entertainment agencies] will continue to work hard to block broadcasting stations from expanding into management businesses.â€

— Insider of the Music Industry

 

 

The complaint began when CJ E&M announced that Wanna One members will not be able to promote with their individual members once they debut.

 

“There weren’t many problems with I.O.I because they were also able to promote with their individual teams.

Starting from Wanna One, [entertainment agencies] have seen a great deal of damage because the broadcasting stations would sign an exclusive contract with the idols forbidding them from promoting elsewhere.â€

— Entertainment agency employee

 

 

On the other hand, CJ E&M has announced that they are splitting the profits from Wanna One equally.But the entertainment agencies still believe that the broadcasting agencies are trying to monopolize profits by producing the audition, managing the promotions and having the idols feature on their own broadcast shows.

 

 

 

“We assigned YMC Entertainment to take over management of Wanna One, and the profit is split equally.â€

— CJ E&M

 

 

 

But the entertainment agencies still believe that the broadcasting agencies are trying to monopolize profits by producing the audition, managing the promotions and having the idols feature on their own broadcast shows.

 

 

 

 

Small to mid-sized entertainment agencies have no power to fight against the broadcasting stations in fear of being restricted from their shows.

 

 

 

After witnessing how much profit is made by project groups like Wanna One and I.O.I, other broadcasting stations have begun creating their own audition programs.

 

 

 

 

KBS is making a new audition program, called The Unit, which will feature past idols who've debuted but never seen success.

 

 

 

 

The idols who debut through this project group will be signing an exclusive contract with KBS.

 

 

And entertainment agencies are against the broadcasting stations having an immense amount of a power in the industry by managing audition winners themselves.

 

 

“When broadcasting stations sign an exclusive contract with its participants and run a management business with them, it isn’t a regular contract and it’s unfair.â€

— Entertainment agency employee

 

 

 

 

They’ve demanded the broadcasting stations to only host the audition, and allow the agencies to manage their own artists.

 

 

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[MochaLatte]

It's not really a surprise... and when they say the profits are split equally among the members, I doubt it's a lot... CJ & YMC staff/managers, etc. get the majority and the members get that measly bit... that's why I'm not a big fan of these audition shows either because while the group is working hard to promote themselves, they are actually sort of being ripped off at the same time, and success after W1 disbandment is not necessarily a "guarantee" for all members either so basically, these audition programs just help CJ & YMC make a shit ton of money while the group gets milked and overworked for 1.5 yr while earning little money for themselves :(

 

it would've been better if CJ just sign W1 as their own artist and make them a "permanent" group... which would probably ensure that the group wouldn't at least be treated as "servants"

[Mees Madds]

“There weren’t many problems with I.O.I because they were also able to promote with their individual teams."

 

Are they for real?  ALL the problems I.O.I had were because of this. And it ruined the year they had together because the girls had to split their time with their original group too. Making the decision to only focus on Wanna one is the best one they could have made.

[fxfourwalls]

Well dang. It's about time tho. Too much manipulation in the industry

 

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[itouch]

As if the music industry isn't already saturated with idols already.

 

"LET'S MAKE MORE IDOL SURVIVAL SHOWS"

[lllll]

I don't think p101 is the problem, the problem are 

1/ Imagine a Wanna1 impact with a permanent CJE&M group like in Idol School that are created every year

2/ You thought that Mnet having several survival show one after another was too much now imagine if the public broadcaster who have way better rating than Mnet are going in. KBS and MBC already) are planning theirs, I wouldn't be surprised that YG new show would be on SBS. Just for the second half of the year we have Idol School, JYP survival, YG show, KBS show "the unit", MBC show

[Mees Madds]

It's not really a surprise... and when they say the profits are split equally among the members, I doubt it's a lot... CJ & YMC staff/managers, etc. get the majority and the members get that measly bit... that's why I'm not a big fan of these audition shows either because while the group is working hard to promote themselves, they are actually sort of being ripped off at the same time, and success after W1 disbandment is not necessarily a "guarantee" for all members either so basically, these audition programs just help CJ & YMC make a shit ton of money while the group gets milked and overworked for 1.5 yr while earning little money for themselves :(

 

it would've been better if CJ just sign W1 as their own artist and make them a "permanent" group...

It's split equally. 25% YMC, 25% CJE&M, 25% the original companies and 25% the members

[Deviandrepepe]

I disagree about the unit. It's a really good idea and many of those idols deserve a second chance.i hope it become a year. ly thing

 

But the others i agree. But isn't ioi also made a shit tons if money? What's really unfair is the loosing participants. U should get paid based by the number of episode you are in. Just like actor and extra in drama.

[MochaLatte]

It's split equally. 25% YMC, 25% CJE&M, 25% the original companies and 25% the members

 

you sure that's what they actually mean... or they mean it as splitting profit equally among the members as "whatever's left over, that gets split evenly among the members" because it's hard to believe the 25/25/25/25 scenario...

[SAYAKA]

I'm not surprised. These trainees are making a lot of money for other agencies but their respective company. Also add the fact that these groups never do as well when they debut in their own groups

 

Company run survival shows have shown better success since the group ends up being permanent.

[Mees Madds]

That's what they said. If you don't want to believe it, it's your choice. I have no reason not to. IOI never complained about not getting enough money, did they?

[eggs]

with IOI the members could debut/promote in their own groups too which was good because the companies may have been preparing for promotions

with Wanna One the members cant debut/promote which makes it awkward for Nuest (having to promote minus 1 member) and for companies to debut groups when they wanted to put their star trainees in the group - for example if one of the companies now debuts a group without the trainee who is in wanna one, then that trainee will have to be added later OR the debut of that group is postponed  (its not like the company will debut one group without the member then be able to debut another one once wanna one stops promoting)

 

i just hope that with The Unit show it doesnt affect the existing groups' promotions. It should focus on helping these struggling groups by taking the best members and giving them exposure, but it shouldnt be at the cost of these groups not being to able to comeback with all their members whilst this "The Unit" group is active

[echobunny]

don't send your idols to those shows then

everyone wants a piece of the profits

[popandfresh]

don't send your idols to those shows then

everyone wants a piece of the profits

 

they said in the article that small to mid sized agencies can get blackmailed - that if they don't send their trainees and idols, they won't be able to appear on the broadcast company's music shows or variety programmes

 

there needs to be legislation

[roamingcat]

The announced split is probably correct.

However we all know trainees have training debt so even with the 25% they earn from their W1 period, a good chunk of that will probably go to their agencies to pay off some of their debt anyways. Which is a good thing bc some IOI members have been able to do that, so when they made their own official debut they were able to earn money faster bc their training debt have been dealt with. Financially speaking the biggest thing W1 gives the members is the chance to pay off their debt and start "fresh" when they make their own debut; and depending on how much money they make during W1. Hopefully they'll all go home with some nice cash in their pocket after paying off their debts.

[Llydia]

Well with ioi, many fans had complaints about members working twice as hard, and even members received hate for it -chaeyeon esp- and some even considered iois unit to be the "true ioi" -_-

 

So that was one of the best decisions mnet made for the second season. To focus solely on one group for members. Fans are happy and they wouldnt receive hate like what girls went through.

 

It sucks esp for nuest tho, but honestly wasnt it announced in advance that the contract would be exclusive? And companies still chose to participate anyway... like this past season had many previously debuted idols. I think ppl are just complaining, and i think companies are feeling salty because they didnt come up with the idea nor can they reap as much profit as possible lol especially now that everyone knows wanna one will make tons more money than ioi.

 

Honestly i bet everyone took pd101s1 as a joke, and then ioi as a joke but quickly realized fans, members were very serious about it being a group and then companies saw $$$. So for pd101s2 and wanna one, now ppl be mad cause they know its gonna be more popular lol

[adda]

beside fame, I don't think W1 members will get something during the one and half year they spend together promoting as W1. This period is meant to build future opportunities for them, not to fill their pockets.

[echobunny]

they said in the article that small to mid sized agencies can get blackmailed - that if they don't send their trainees and idols, they won't be able to appear on the broadcast company's music shows or variety programmes

 

there needs to be legislation

they said "Small to mid-sized entertainment agencies have no power to fight against the broadcasting stations in fear of being restricted from their shows."

i think that means they can't fight their contracts, not that they were forced to send their idols to that show

[Nyny]

Haha!

 

What entertainment agencies are complaining though? The nugu companies making money from the winning idols like they never could before?

 

 

Or other, richer, more powerful companies seeing the public's attention and love shift from their lovely pedestal and competing with their "status"?

[RenM]

what people forget about pd 101 S1 , it is not about money. the majority of trainee there legit join for chance to debut. Many of them have slim chance to debut from their company. All trainee never thought the show would become popular because it's the first of it's kind.

 

But now it's turned out to be money maker. So everyone fight over the money not caring about the trainee lol.

[Nyny]

beside fame, I don't think W1 members will get something during the one and half year they spend together promoting as W1. This period is meant to build future opportunities for them, not to fill their pockets.

 

You're kidding right?

IOI members promoted for like 8 months made enough money to pay their trainee debts and even one member bought out her contract and started her own company. I can't imagine what W1 are going to make.

 

They're going to make tons of money regardless of it being split. 

[versace]

thats the reality of the "individual trainee/member popularity era" 

 

the small agency boom from 2012 onwards will be destroyed by bigger agencies/conglomerates/networks and the industry will start over again

[mon chan]

Just rmb this article

(KEMA: Korean Entertainment Management Association)

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Don't know if they'll take real action on this trend.

[mistressnicey]

Looks like some agencies are not happy bout Wanna One breaking the status quo.

[SweetiePatootie]

I don't see companies being against these shows in particular. From the article, they're pissed because they couldn't get the full cut of the money their trainees make while being in the group. Add that to losing control over their own artists. I'll bet none of them mind getting their trainees popular off participating in audition programs, it's the management and income splitting they have issue with