Should there be legal repercussions if a trans person reveals that they're trans after having sex with a partner?

[BadBadNotGood]

There's been a lot of talk about trans issues this week in America from Trump to Bobby Valentino to Lil Duval. I've read multiple stances and overall it's a lot of ignorance. This will be one of the biggest issues America will face for the next 10+ years and it's getting worse rather than better.

I think it's incredibly wrong to deceive someone into thinking you're a biological man or woman, then have sex with them, then tell them you're trans. You do take away their choice. I'm sorry but I really don't think it's transphobic to not be attracted to someone after finding out they're trans. There are people that do have set limits on what they're attracted to and what they're comfortable since sexuality is a spectrum we all fall somewhere on. Yet that doesn't mean they deserve violence. I've read people saying that it should be a rape charge, or a fraud charge etc.

 

Which brings me to the biggest problem. If there are legal repercussions, I can only imagine a heightened feeling of fear trans people would feel and maybe even stop them from revealing their status even more if they already have transitioned fully.

I don't believe most trans people go into relationships with ill intentions trying to deceive straight men like I've seen a lot of people say. 

Overall, no I don't think there should be a charge. I really can't see it doing any good.

 

 

[RIP Shikkie ��]

Wait... someone explain this to me because (for example) if you're a trans woman won't the person you're having sex with notice your dick....?

 

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[Deâ„“phina]

Yes, it's transphobic and you are transphobic for having that line of thinking. If you can't tell the difference after literally having sex with them, then what even are your reluctances due to besides a belief that transwomen and transmen are not real women or men i.e. being transphobic? 

[soman]

Wait... someone explain this to me because (for example) if you're a trans woman won't the person you're having sex with notice your dick....?

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This. How can you not know your partner's genitalia after seeing and touching it??

[Rose.]

You're telling me that while you're making out with the person, you don't feel a bulge down there. 

 

I mean we're talking about AFTER sex. 

 

Not before. If you don't stop within the moment you pull down and see that they're a trans and keep doing what you're doing.

 

No, there shouldn't be any. 

[BadBadNotGood]

Wait... someone explain this to me because (for example) if you're a trans woman won't the person you're having sex with notice your dick....?

 

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A fully transitioned trans person.

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Legal, no. I think it should be a moral obligation

[glow]

No, that would be transphobic as hell. The person consented to sex with someone, HAD SEX and obviously would've been aware of someone's genitals, doing something retroactively would just be vindictive

[RIP Shikkie ��]

A fully transitioned trans person.

Oh

 

I still feel like it'd be pretty obvious ur partner is trans but then again shit happens

[neojasnee]

No cause a lot of times trans people get killed in these scenario but the killers never get charged for it

[chiirbii]

Legal, no. I think it should be a moral obligation

Yeah, this is where I stand on the issue as well.

 

In a perfect world there wouldn't be anything morally wrong with withholding that information, but, transphobia is so rampant and dangerous. Like, I understand why someone that is trans might not want to disclose, but ultimately it's necessary.

 

(and yikes, y'all. go google the process of transitioning. surgery is very common and can very much change a person's body.)

[ChungJoJo]

i forgot how liberal this place is.

[BadBadNotGood]

i forgot how liberal this place is.

Do you have an opinion?

[Honeystan]

I don't see why the person should care. They got to the point where they wanted to have sex with them, why should it matter the gender after all is said and done?

 

You liked the person, you liked the sex (to the point you couldn't feel if the transitioned vagina or penis was born attached), now you're just mad they were...what? originally the same sex as you? 

[soman]

(and yikes, y'all. go google the process of transitioning. surgery is very common and can very much change a person's body.)

I understand about transition process, what i dont understand is if the person has fully transitioned to the point that people dont realize anything different after having sex with them, then why does it matter what gender they were born with? Since they fully pass as the gender that they want anyway. Thats why i thought OP was talking about transgenders that still possess the genitals they were born with

[boa578]

I mean if they've been lying to their partner and leading them to believe something else than that person can have them charged with rape. 

[TrueColors]

There's been a lot of talk about trans issues this week in America from Trump to Bobby Valentino to Lil Duval. I've read multiple stances and overall it's a lot of ignorance. This will be one of the biggest issues America will face for the next 10+ years and it's getting worse rather than better.

I think it's incredibly wrong to deceive someone into thinking you're a biological man or woman, then have sex with them, then tell them you're trans. You do take away their choice. I'm sorry but I really don't think it's transphobic to not be attracted to someone after finding out they're trans. There are people that do have set limits on what they're attracted to and what they're comfortable since sexuality is a spectrum we all fall somewhere on. Yet that doesn't mean they deserve violence. I've read people saying that it should be a rape charge, or a fraud charge etc.

 

Which brings me to the biggest problem. If there are legal repercussions, I can only imagine a heightened feeling of fear trans people would feel and maybe even stop them from revealing their status even more if they already have transitioned fully.

I don't believe most trans people go into relationships with ill intentions trying to deceive straight men like I've seen a lot of people say. 

Overall, no I don't think there should be a charge. I really can't see it doing any good.

I agree with you. Trans people should tell their partners that they're trans before doing anything really.

[TrueColors]

Yes, it's transphobic and you are transphobic for having that line of thinking. If you can't tell the difference after literally having sex with them, then what even are your reluctances due to besides a belief that transwomen and transmen are not real women or men i.e. being transphobic? 

Some people (like me) just don't want to be with trans people and that shouldn't be an issue.

[chiirbii]

I understand about transition process, what i dont understand is if the person has fully transitioned to the point that people dont realize anything different after having sex with them, then why does it matter what gender they were born with? Since they fully pass as the gender that they want anyway

I view upfront disclosure as a vetting process and a way of being safe. So many trans men and women, women especially, are attacked and murdered every year. Why take that chance?

[anxiety]

yes, I think it should.

[Peng Peng]

No, there shouldn't be any legal charges for that. Morally it's not the greatest choice to keep that a secret from your sexual partner, but it's not my place to judge and certainly not severe enough to be punishable by law.

 

We all make bad choices, keep secrets, and lie from time to time. It's part of being a human.

[soman]

I view upfront disclosure as a vetting process and a way of being safe. So many trans men and women, women especially, are attacked and murdered every year. Why take that chance?

Well in that case then they must disclose it before, not after having sex

[Deviandrepepe]

Lol no. I bet many proplr would use this law too to have sex with trans and then sue them for money.

 

Honestly if u can't tell their original sex when having sex, i don't think u have the right to do this. You don't sue a woman for not telling you she infertie before sex and you don't sue a women for having had work done and not telling you. So it make no sense to have the right to sue for this.

[sevendays]

Personally no, you chose to have sex with the person. Even if you were lied to, which I consider wrong, what's done is done and suing doesn't do anything. Choosing to break up with your partner after finding out however is your choice. It's a blurry line. 

 

I don't believe most trans people go into relationships with ill intentions trying to deceive straight men like I've seen a lot of people say. 

 

 

There are youtube videos where transgender women caption it with "he didn't know I was trans after sex" and stuff like that. They glorify it and it's ridiculous considering how many women were killed after revealing their trans.

[BadBadNotGood]

Personally no, you chose to have sex with the person. Even if you were lied to, which I consider wrong, what's done is done and suing doesn't do anything. Choosing to break up with your partner after finding out however is your choice. It's a blurry line. 

 

There are youtube videos where transgender women caption it with "he didn't know I was trans after sex" and stuff like that. They glorify it and it's ridiculous considering how many women were killed after revealing their trans.

Attention seekers like that don't represent the entire populus.