Official Vocals thread (READ OP FIRST)

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off topic lol

I wish Minseo debuted with gfriend. 

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@ZRH23 https://www.veed.io/view/7e601724-d897-4d9e-bb3c-ceb0cc1dc735?sharingWidget=true

How am I doing here thank u so much.

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23 minutes ago, ZRH23 said:

Another tenor in the thread I see! You did well, you do support in this range (I think the chorus is around E4-F#4 range mostly). There are some common issues that I can here and there, but mostly I hear some pitchy moments. It will usually solve more naturally as your cords strengthen and you get a better handle at things but you can avoid the bigger pitchy moments by being a bit more familiar with the melody and music so you can pace yourself better. But yeah you did good

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Can Taylor Swift supports atleast? her lows sound solid maybe E3/F3? Does she support her G4/G#4?

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what is the best with gfriend yerin ,sinb  & joy? 

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who is better sejeong or haewon?

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8 hours ago, BabyKBK said:

IMO there's a case to say Jojo is maybe a soprano. I don't hear any significant gap intensity wise compared with Solji in the fourth octave. Her voice is quite a bit less heavy than Miley, Adele and Jiyoung. @ZRH23

 

I dunno but that A4 sounds like JoJo is putting much effort to belt while Soji is not cmiiw

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I hope the weak to average girls are ranked too

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@BAZISSINOcan chanyeol/xiumin atleast support? 

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6 hours ago, Tsukimono said:

This is a short clip of my singing... how are these notes, anything I can work on? I have no training and I'm not sure if this is a belt or my upper passagio. The note is bit easy for me, technique wise idk how I'm doing. Am I giving tenor or bari vibes lol.. I think I'm a bari? idk

 

 

you sound like renjun  

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Is ningning lower than seojess? 

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23 minutes ago, ZRH23 said:

Kelly has an edge in the mixed register but I wouldn't say Ailee falls behind that much. Kelly has got a way less distorted sound C5 - F5ish but Ailee still got quite some strength up to E5/F5. Ailee's notes below C5 is great ofc but Kelly's not slacking either so overall Kelly just has a more reliable belting range.

But the other aspects, I guess Ailee is the more developed vocalist. Her head voice is considerably better coordinated than Kelly's. 

I don't know if I'm hearing anything different bout that timestamp for Taeyeon but yeah, she definitely does have the development for it. She just doesn't go all out placement-wise. We could only guess as to why exactly, it could be that she's more comfortable that way since being nasal is less work on the cords, or maybe she just thinks that there's no need for volume and projection for these live performances. Taeyeon still does have some nasal habits even in recording sessions but I'd wager she has control over 90% of the time. 

Yeah, Jessica's midrange is probably the most underwhelming one in her category. BoA's is still better imo, she's got that stronger sense of support throughout even if her tonality isn't the fullest. Jessica's issue lies with the strength of her support on top of other stuff. Tbh, I'd say the high Averages generally has better support in their midrange compared to Jessica in most occasions. 

Sometimes it's for a lack of trying, but the fundamental problems does exist even in her best moments so. What Jessica does well is those moments when she suddenly pulls off some decently placed notes A4 - C5, which aren't just flukes. That Dangerous Woman cover was one of the better moments for Jessica yeah.

As for your question for how far does the advantage go, it depends on both aspects tbh. When we mention midrange, it usually just means the connection to support throughout their normal range before the belts (i.e. Bb3 - Bb4) and that's where the majority of song verses take place. For most vocalists past Above Average, they have an already acceptable development in that midrange. By extension, the strength of their support and coordination would also show in their belts. Of course, there are plenty of cases where one vocalist has a full, grounded midrange but less proficient with belts, while another vocalist is lacking a bit of that fullness but soar in their belts. It depends on how much of each they lack.

Taeyeon's lack of fullness in her midrange in comparison to Wendy is less of a disadvantage compared fo Wendy's inability to even land open notes. Hyolyn has better moments Eb5 - F5 compared to Uji, but Uji in comparison sounds fuller and stronger in support below that so that's a bigger plus imo.

Up until A-AA, I'd say the midrange takes precedence simply because if they don't have a strong enough midrange, they'll end up being messy in a very simple range. But for rare cases like Minzy where she mostly just sticks to that range and has struggles beyond that (which we still consider relatively easy for a soprano) then that's another conclusion. It's all pretty nuanced case by case. 

Ningning's best attempt at chest engagement? Probably in the Dreams Come True recording or that Chinese song of hers. Maybe the live Black Mama ones but I prefer the others first. 

What is Jessica's edge to Minzy & Ben?

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1 hour ago, Tsabar said:

Ben regressed majorly, did you even hear her recently ?? She lost most of the strength she once had.

she still have B4/C5 right?

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Is jessica's B4/C5/C#5 one of the best in AAA?

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6 hours ago, galhadineas said:

this was so bad lol 

 

how is the girl on the right side doing? 

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9 hours ago, galhadineas said:

 

She knows she messed up, actually all of them know that. I think they didn't prepare enough because it seems like they aren't familiar with the melody at all. About her approach, it's better than the girl from left, it's not like there's no support at all. All of them don't have enough agility to handle those runs tho. 

 

both of them are shallow and nasal, but it's not like the weak shallowness. This is MUCH better than that live perfomance.

1:03 shana doesn't support B4 

2:43  neither chanty

 

1:23 supported G4

1:31 yeah Bb4 is out from her supported range too

2:32 you can hear how squeezed  her throat is, shana does better in this range than her

 

 

she looks like Olivia rodrigo

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10 hours ago, BAZISSINO said:

POV :you're the embodiment of Support be like 👁👁

@BAZISSINOis she really that great??

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@ZRH23 How am I doing here? thank u so much

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Edited July 23, 2022 by exodus05

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if a tenor has D3-G4/G#4 but has a light mid range, is he an AAA or an average?

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11 minutes ago, RATY said:

Who is the strongest female singer in the Philippines?  Jonalyn Viray ?

@1.46-2.00 Sound very strong, openness and resonance and head voice, she's also very good

 

@1.52  @2.34

1.36 C6 

Is anyone following her?  I've listened to many clips, probably AA-P or P( I'm not sure.)

 

 

 

 

I am a filipino. I heard she has resonant C#5s and a great headvoice better than Morissette

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28 minutes ago, RATY said:

 I saw ally kelly chanel say Morissette Amon has F3-F5 and they are arguing

6.54 Eb5-F5 are suppproted ?  

 

mrskinnyjeans has a blog analysis before. Morissete has C5/C#5 from what I remember.

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Do you know guys how to take care of our voice and avoid nodules?

Is cold water bad after singing a lot of high notes?

we went for karaoke last night while we are drinking. I drank a lot of cold beer while singing a lot of songs with G#4/A4. Now my thoat hurts so bad

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how would you rank monsta x kihyun, nct jaehyun, got7 youngjae and zayn?

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How is SNSD Yuri doing now? Is she a WA? I feel like she still supports up to now and she has good low register

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Just now, Ti Na said:

I want to ask about Chaeyoung and Mina's ranks? Is it Weak Vocalists ?

underdeveloped